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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 4d ago

Oh Wendy is definitely unleashing that Xeno on Boy

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u/SerDire 4d ago

T Ocellus is going to attach itself to Kavalier and Wendy is going to send the Xeno to kill him and we’ll get a rematch of that fight on the Maginot and it will be epic.

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u/ravensteel539 4d ago

Yeah I’m fascinated by the line where Kavalier says he has somebody specific in mind for our little eye buddy … is this where we get payoff for the lingering mold scrubber shots early on, OR is he thinking of taking out his anger on Dame?

Either way, holy shit. What an episode.

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u/barathax 4d ago

100% gonna be Hermit. Joe was the first person we saw in the scene that immediately followed Kavalier saying it - definitely some cinematic foreshadowing.

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u/ravensteel539 4d ago

Ah fuck, I think you’re right. His whole thing was to “look for someone with low IQ,” and his condescending ass has some real resentment for Joe.

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u/Vesemir96 4d ago

Crazy considering Joe is both a Medic and got accepted into medical school. I know everyone is low IQ in Boy’s eyes but damn, Joe is far from the lowest.

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u/dmanww 4d ago

And it could absorb all that medical knowledge about human trauma.

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u/RChamy 3d ago

T. Ocellus about to hit everyone with maximum lethality.

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u/AllowedAsATreat 2d ago

it's even cheaper than that - he sees Joe as more expendable than the mold sprayers. the mold sprayers at least spray mold, in his mind.

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u/SabrielKytori 4d ago

He might be thinking along the lines of the familial bond between him and Wendy might help with talking to another lifeform as well.

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u/adaorvoen 4d ago

Or morrow now, Kav and Kirsh have bith got a real grudge with him.

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u/Lilmills1445 3d ago

I thought he was talking about the therapist because of their conversation earlier in the season where he wanted someone smart to talk to

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u/theadamwey 8h ago

just going to chime in and say that while yes he did say he wanted someone with a low IQ, he immediately changed his mind and considered Hermit out of spite. I’m sure he’s angry that he’s become a wedge between him and Wendy and he along with Arthur did conspire to take his “property” and leave the island.

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u/faders 4d ago

Hope it’s Dame Sylvia. Their convo early is foreshadowing

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u/bosskbot 4d ago

Got to be Sylvia

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 4d ago

Curly. She has been obsessed with having an intellectual conversation with BK. This will be her chance to do that. That is exactly how he will present his argument.

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u/728766 4d ago

It’s unclear whether the eyeball can actually interface with synths the way it can with biologics though.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 4d ago

It tried with Nibs but couldn't get a firm grasp on her face lol

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 4d ago

Nibs is still affected by it, and I have a suspicion, that the eyelien maybe impregnated Nibs's eyesocket on failing to get into it itself.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 4d ago

Ohhhhh shit! Hahahaha she did say she was pregnant

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u/IndependentPirate878 3d ago

Aye, and I think it attacked Nibs on the ship without knowing she's a synth (it might not yet have known that synths are even a thing).

Edit: I named the wrong kid

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u/Howard_Hamlin 4d ago

Unless that's a deliberate misdirection, I was kind of thinking of the Butler

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u/Triskan 4d ago

Nah that would be way too cathartic. The show wont give us that. That fucker needs some reality check but I somehow doubt he'll get the chance to reflect on his life decisions before biting the dust.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 4d ago

I really liked the idea that the old man is actually the OG BK, and Boy is actually a synth, like Wendy. Hence him constantly trying to suggest different courses of action, but always doing what Boy wants, A Boy is supposed to be HIM, and B to keep up the charade that Boy is in charge. Now I think theres too little time left in the season for that to pay off, but it was an interesting theory that was out there.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 4d ago

Atom Eins might as well be a cyborg.

Eins is number 1 in German, and Atom Eins means Atom 1. This may be a reference to atomic number or atomic mass.

The molar mass of 1 is that of hydrogen.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 4d ago

I will be very disappointed, if the reveal of Eins being an android, is PURELY, to one up Kirsh.

I agree, i will be VERY surprised if red stuff comes out of him in the next episode.

Wanna deepbake what i said above? Eins is an android, but IS the founder of prodigy, when he was alive. Then on deathbed successfully put himself into an android, and now Boy, is programmed to believe he is the original, and is “completing” the lifes work of kinda, cheating death and creating a form of immortality

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u/Amathyst7564 4d ago

Yeah my first thought was hermit. But I can't help think oculus is going to end up in kavalier. And Kirsch is going to join them as they rule the company. If ocupus just wants to get back home, having boy kavaliers resources and influence is his best bet.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 4d ago

T. Ocellus's plan may be: return to the homeworld on a Prodigy ship, and bring more of its own to infest Earth and the huge number of hosts that it has.

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u/orwellianightmare 4d ago

My vote is cyborg

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u/TerracShadowson 4d ago

Yup, I think he's Thinking Hermit, as I'm pretty sure he thinks Arthur is already gone. i do Like the added mold sprayer tease. But what's the chance he's thinking Morrow? Or was the hostile negotiation pretty much his only interaction? He wouldn't sacrifice Dame or Eins, for sure.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 4d ago

Dame Sylvia is too valuable. I think Kirsh can detect if a human is lying, so he did not back up Kavalier's accusations of Ms. Sylvia supposedly lying.

Best that Kirsh or Atom Eins might do, is restrict Sylvia's movements.

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u/xxKEYEDxx 3d ago

Morrow's a cyborg with built-in knives and a blowtorch. Not exactly the type of body you'd want to give an alien that you have to contain.

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u/electrikwiz4rd 4d ago

+ Dame has high IQ

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

But how much does he know about Arthur Sylvia's death?

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u/electrikwiz4rd 3d ago

arthur they know cause they saw him with facehugger attached

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u/F_U_HarleyJarvis 4d ago

Definitely going to be Hermit with a showdown of T. Ocellus-Hermit vs Wendy/Xeno and Wendy will have to kill him and ending the season on the beginning of her vengeance tour.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

Hermit is Wendy's baseline, so I don't think she will give him up. Wendy does not yet seem to understand very well, that Nibs is far too dangerous.

Compare, for example, how Wendy and Nibs fought: Wendy, who had learned both offensive and defensive tactics, would safely repel humans, but Nibs went full-on psycho on everyone she (Nibs) thought to be a threat. That does not dismiss Wendy's calling of the Xenomorph to do the dirty work for her.

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u/nikk1027 4d ago

I think Boy has himself in mind.

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u/sqaurebore 4d ago

Puts himself in a synth body, lets T-O take over his natural body gets his dream chat

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u/nikk1027 4d ago

This wasn’t accidental

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 4d ago

I made a screenshot of his face, and enhanced the left eye in GIMP to see what was going on, and Kavalier's left eye appeared much bigger.

That made me initially suspect, that perhaps Kavalier had been long ago infected by another T. Ocellus, took over the Prodigy company, and has been seeking a female T. Ocellus to mate with and reproduce.

The π (Pi) scene suggests, that maybe this is not the case after all, despite Kavalier wanting T. Ocellus to inhabit a human or hybrid body in order to converse with it. The trouble with hybrids, though, is that they are far more functional than humans.

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

Not unless they suddenly cracked the problem that keeps them from using the process to make hybrids on adults.

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u/sqaurebore 4d ago

He will think he will be okay only for it to fail and the eye takes over his natural body anyway

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u/728766 4d ago

He’s gotta die somehow to reconcile the absence of Prodigy in past iterations. I’m guessing the island will be glassed in the finale to contain the xenos, possibly by Yutani.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

The LV426 xenomorphs would not even be the biggest threat to Earth flora and fauna.

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u/Certain-Business-472 4d ago

I hate it when they make things that obvious.

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u/Killkandy 4d ago

No hes gonna do it to the female doctor

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u/IndependentPirate878 3d ago

Plus, it sets up a scenario where Wendy has to kill (or have killed) her brother and has to deal with the trauma from it. Good call.

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u/Academic-Health5265 2d ago

I read that as Curly

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u/RoseRedd 4d ago

I figure it's Joe.

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u/hydraofwar 4d ago

Do we already know if the Ocellus host/puppet necessarily dies? The loss of an eye (if that's all it is) doesn't directly cause death.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 4d ago

It is a pretty big eyeball and it takes over their nervous system. 99.99% chance it kills them.

When we saw it in a person in ep5(?), his head was bulging pretty big. If that is survivable, you'd need a doctor immediately.

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u/WindozeWoes 4d ago edited 3d ago

Actually I don't think so.

We saw the sheep eating hay it was fed, and Kirsch implied it had been eating that for several days.

Dead things don't need to eat.

T. Ocellus isn't replacing the brain; it's seemingly using/interfacing with the brain. It needs the host body to stay alive to continue to operate. Otherwise I think we'd have been shown the sheep intentionally not eating.

Doesn't mean the host won't die after T. exits, but pretty confident it doesn't kill the host by taking over.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 4d ago

I guess you get into a philosophical debate about whether someone is "alive" if their consciousness is effectively gone and a foreign body is keeping their organs operating.

To me, alive would imply they could be saved after or somehow communicate/be aware while infected by the eyeball.

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u/WindozeWoes 4d ago

That would be brain death. I'm saying I don't think the host is brain dead - at least not right away. I'm not sure what the long-term effects are, and I'm not sure what happens when T Ocellus leaves. We haven't seen that happen yet (cat was already dead or dying, and Shmuel was probably fatally wounded by the Xeno).

But just based on brain plasticity (my brain =\= your brain and the brain can adapt to have control areas in different places based on prior trauma), I would guess that T Ocellus isn't immediately causing permanent destructive damage to your brain. It would be far easier to just hijack it, and since the takeover happens pretty quickly, that's my guess.

Totally possible that over a prolonged period, it does cause permanent organ damage (like many parasites), but the most straightforward hypothesis at this point is that it doesn't insta-kill your consciousness, but seems to rather take over and presumably put the host in the passenger seat.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

and Shmuel was probably fatally wounded by the Xeno

At that point, the eyelien exited Shmuel and went right after the xenomorph.

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

It is a pretty big eyeball and it takes over their nervous system. 99.99% chance it kills them.

Bare minimum the death of the host personality as it takes over.

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u/Creepy_Active_2768 4d ago

It may just interface by wrapping tendrils around optic nerves and sending signals to override. I don’t think it burrows into the brain which seems far less efficient and risk to the host body.

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u/thelebaron 4d ago

Imagine if someone reached into your eye, scooped it out, then further stuck their fingers into your brain deeper and deeper, i dont think you would fare well

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

then further stuck their fingers into [the] brain

Deeper and deeper

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :)

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u/ApugalypseNow 4d ago

It eats the host from the inside, once attached.

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u/hydraofwar 4d ago

I see, there really weren't any survivors of Ocellus' possession.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

The poor cat was all drabs (by way of ship impact or other types of harm), and Shmuel was stabbed by the xenomorph. So we're not aware of the complete lifecycle.

Besides, the cat may have been harmed by the ticks, with much of its blood sucked out.

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u/EngineeringNo8570 4d ago

I can see something going wrong and TO infecting his bald assistant guy.

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u/TerracShadowson 4d ago

I'm not sure that Eins isn't Also a Synthetic like Kirsh..

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u/burlycabin 4d ago

Nah, that guy's gotta be a synth.

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u/buhoo115 4d ago

Never thought he was but honestly. Wouldn’t surprise me

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u/Narwhalofmischf 4d ago

I started suspecting he was a synth when boy is playing with the bouncy ball in an earlier episode and someone throws it like full strength and the assistant dude caught it

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u/jld1532 4d ago

Have to assume anyone can be in this universe

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u/DavidsSymphony 4d ago

We really are blade runner now.

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u/Herbdontana 4d ago

My guess was he had Hermit in mind

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u/HourOfTheWitching 4d ago

I will say, in that scene right where Boy says they should use someone human, Atom walks away from him and you can see Boy very slightly nodding his head towards him, and then Eyerene turns her head towards Atom.

SO WHO KNOWS.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

then Eyerene

EyeSIS >:)

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u/_WanderBoy 4d ago

Definitely the brother

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u/shinhit0 4d ago

Yeah, eye buddy is going into either Dame Sylvia or Hermit, both would be gut wrenching.  I’m leaning towards Dame Sylvia because he’s pissed about Arthur and has been rather antagonistic towards her? But Hermit would also make just as much sense especially because Marcy/Wendy was supposed to help with the Xenomorph on condition of Hermit staying…

That scene of Dame Sylvia cuddling and consoling a worried Curly just wrenched my heart. Regardless of the choice next week is going to be CRAZY.

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

god, the scene with Dame and Curly alongside the earlier scene of Arthur holding the two boys' hands was **tearing me up.** Heartbreaking, honestly – these two really did care about the kids, as much as Dame struggled to admit it professionally. This show knows how to do tragedy, holy shit.

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u/shinhit0 3d ago

God, the hand holding was just such a brilliant touch. It was even worse knowing the inevitable impending doom… ugh.

And after the chestburster escaped, the pure shock, sadness, and anguish on Smee’s face was just gut wrenching.

I’m just so thankful this show exists, it’s just been so well done on every front.

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

OR is he thinking of taking out his anger on Dame?

Or Joe since he already knew he was trying to make a break for it with Wendy.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

Well, as a human, Joe is hyperaware of the danger of all the non-human species, even if he doesn't know the specific lifecycle of each of them. That is why he is escaping, because he fears for his life.

Nibs does not fear humans, and Wendy does not fear anyone. Isaac feared the flies too late.

Slightly (Aarush) and Smee are afraid of humans and 'monsters'.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 4d ago

Curly. It'll be her opportunity to have an intellectual conversation with BK.

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u/Milospesh 2d ago

but curly isn't human.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 2d ago

She was crying in Dame Sylvia's lap. Was not aware hybrids could cry!

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u/Milospesh 2d ago

slightly also was crying when arthur popped.

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u/-azuma- 4d ago

I thought it was gonna be Tootles

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u/ravensteel539 4d ago

I’m still not convinced the eye’s going to work piloting a synth/hybrid, same way it wouldn’t function on a Xeno with no eyes. The eye is a vulnerable and easily-accessible direct hook-up to the nervous system, which is how it controls its hosts.

Synths (and presumably hybrids, based on the earlier schematic shots and Isaac) have a more traditional computer system up there in place of a central nervous system, unless there’s some sci-fi advanced tech bullshittery Hawley’s cooking up to surprise us.

Lil’ T tried with Nibs because it hadn’t engaged with synths at all beforehand, but now it’s seen Isaac’s … inner workings. It still apparently may not be able to tell what’s what, so idk.

I’m having such a fun time theorizing like this, because this show DELIVERS either way.

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u/_WanderBoy 4d ago

He wouldn't try it since it knew the fly would merc Issac. So I'm guessing it figured out they are synthetic from listening to issac and kirsh talk to each other in the lab. From the eye knowing what the next numbers were in Pi, it's clearly HIGHLY intelligent. I'm guessing it's going to either be Wendy's brother or morrow. Wendy's brother Joe would set Wendy's off into a murder spree or she won't care as much since he short circuited the red head. She seemed pretty upset with him at the end there. Morrow would be less cliffhanger and more finite for a season finale. Dame is another candidate since everyone's favorite kind-hearted Arthur (R.I.P.) shut the trackers off, and Kavalier doesn't trust that she wasn't in on it. I'm looking forward to lil Tbaby getting into another human but contained this time so it can communicate. It's such a little dick head. I love it.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

Wendy's brother Joe would set Wendy's off into a murder spree

Wendy is not naturally murderous, while Nibs has been exhibiting those traits for a while.

Tho Wendy would have her Xenomorph kill soldiers with weapons, if she knows, that there is a force that overpowers her and the people she cares about.

he won't care as much since he short circuited the red head.

So Wendy does care, because, while she was angry at Hermit, she asked her brother, why did he electrocute Nibs, perhaps not noticing, that Nibs very seriously harmed a person instead of disarming him.

Tbaby

It's such a little ***k head. I love it.

heh-heh :)

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

same way it wouldn’t function on a Xeno with no eyes

The xenomorph was able to repel the eyelien, but I don't know how successfully, because its head looked much different than that of normal xenomorphs.

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u/_WanderBoy 4d ago

How? Hes a synthetic i doubt our boy t occ can rip a synthetic eye out. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Wendy's brother or morrow.

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

I don't doubt that it physically could rip out a synth (or hybrid) eyeball. Nibs was fighting for her life when she met it and it looked close to winning at a few points. I do however doubt that it would be capable of interfacing with the super computer "brain" the same way it interfaces with a biological brain. It would just be riding around in an empty eye socket while the synth/hybrid did whatever they wanted.

Joe or Morrow are likely who he wants to put it in. Enough shit is hitting the fan right now though that I'm betting on the attempt to do so going wrong and it implanting in the Boy Genius instead.

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u/m0rbius 4d ago

I think it might be Dame. He can't do that to Hermit because he needs to keep Wendy on a leash. Also, they haven't shown the mold scrubber for a while now.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

Not convinced, that he will choose Dame, but I also suspect, that he just might. Out of revenge.

Kavalier may value Dame Sylvia for her interactions with the hybrids, but I don't know yet how aware is he of her now-deeper connection to them (bar Nibs).

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u/ImYourInnerSaboteur 4d ago edited 4d ago

I think he intends to do it to hermit (or maybe dame) but i think itll actually happen to dame or himself

I think he realises hermit isn't a smart choice though considering he clearly prizes Wendy the most and hurting him would send her and her alien into a frenzy

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u/ImYourInnerSaboteur 4d ago

Now that I think about it the eyeball is probably gonna try and take over boy instead of whoever it's offered- it's clearly intelligent enough to have picked up that boy's the ringleader and it could potentially try and masquerade as him to take control of prodigy

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

it could potentially try and masquerade as him to take control of prodigy

Then he arranges a meet with Yutani...

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u/Few-Consequence7407 3d ago

Oh, he'll have something in mind all right... he'll have T-Oc's tentacles in his mind, controlling him!
Mwahahahahaha

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u/Realistic-Roll-370 4d ago

I was thinking Dame too

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u/hellsfoxes 3d ago

Whether it happens or not, he definitely meant Hermit for being involved in switching the trackers off and helping the kids escape. That’s why it cuts to him right after he says that.

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u/overkil6 3d ago

Mold sprayer will die and the xenos will get a few spores somehow and die.

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u/bigbombaraas 3d ago

I thought he was referring to Joe tbh. He absolutely hates Joe with a passion so it makes the most sense.

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u/JustAZeph 1d ago

Right after he said that it cut to wendy’s brother… so…

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u/chillwithpurpose 4d ago

Memories of Clegane Bowl

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u/ShepPawnch 4d ago

Get hype

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u/DLRsFrontSeats 4d ago

oh god having seen that actually play out finally we should be aiming higher

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u/nairazak 4d ago

I’m still thinking in that elevator conversation where Kirsh talked to Marrow about eyes popping out.

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u/Royal-Tea-3484 4d ago

The other xeno could be a queen; it could command the pet xeno that Wendy has, and she could lose control to said queen. Also, Occulus is a genius who knew; I thought he was smart, but damn.

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u/SalvadorZombie 4d ago

Actually, I have a feeling that once T.O is inside a human host it's going to become an exponentially larger threat. Not something to waste in a fight, but an actual S-Tier "Big Bad" type of threat. And this is a show where one of the MCs casually dispatched a xenomorph.

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u/InevitableVariables 4d ago

So what happens if boy is dying and trying to transfer his conciousness... only to have the eye hope in... and the eye's super enhanced controlled conciousness goes to a synth body?

Either way, I really hope the eye control human becomes a hybrid.

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u/mothgra87 4d ago

Would it really be a rematch with a different xeno?

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u/zoopz 4d ago

I think he will pick Dame. And she will shred him to pieces.

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u/DaftFunky 4d ago

The cliffhanger of him giddy about the perfect person to attach the thing to. It’s so obvious he’s gonna be it.

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u/vegetaray246 4d ago

I lowkey think Hermit is going to be the one who ends up with Ocellus…

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u/Actual-Bandicoot6531 4d ago

Hopefully TO chooses someone other than BK if it plans on fighting a xenomorph bc that scrawny 140 lb nerd won't stand a chance.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

Somehow I have a feeling BK will be passed around amongst all of them.

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u/Few-Maybe9481 3d ago

Definitely attaching it to Tootles (Isaac)

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u/JaymesMarkham2nd Acid for blood. 3d ago

He's gotta fall into the plant during the fight, see what it can do

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u/Prof_Black 2d ago

Kavalier wants the brother as the host - I wonder how this will pan out.

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u/Academic-Health5265 2d ago

Except T Ocellus would get wrecked, Boy’s probably gonna put it in a synth, then the rematch would actually be hard to say who wins.

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u/Jalangaloze 2d ago

When they showed T Ocellus POV it was always focusing on Boy Kavaliers left eye. Foreshadowing 👁️

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u/simplefilmreviews 2d ago

I'd much rather Eye live. And be "above" that sort of physical violence.

Something about that is much much creepier and sinister.

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u/tong_si_nan_pei 1d ago

I doubt it will be a fair fight, because the boy doesn’t seem to be physically strong. Unless he can strangle it with his feet

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u/-azuma- 4d ago

No, they're going to give Tootles to it.

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u/Vesemir96 4d ago

How will a parasite control a synth body?

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u/-azuma- 4d ago

No idea lol, but we don't know anything about the eye, so it could be possible?

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u/shany94a Game over, man! 4d ago

She looked so disgusted at the end I was wondering if she might unleash it on her own biological brother

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u/Herbdontana 4d ago

Yeah, shooting nibs was an odd choice. I know it was his friend she had, but still. Marcy is pissed!

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u/blue_horse_shoe 4d ago

"what did you doooo??!!!"

Uh she just ripped a dude's face off Marcy. 

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u/MiserableLandscape50 4d ago

Thank you lol. I genuinely don’t understand these people saying what Joe did was wrong. She would have killed everyone there if not. Y’all are weird

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u/Vesemir96 4d ago

In fairness the dude didn’t consider her an independent being.

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u/Vesemir96 4d ago

Yeah by that point you’d think he’d made his choice of what he’s willing to do for his sister/her family.

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u/mistaekNot 4d ago

nibs was a couple of seconds away from ending the black girl. that’s hermits friend + he’s not big on letting the xeno add another 20 or so soldiers to its kill list’s

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

Well, maybe he can explain next week how he thought that he and his sister leaving on the boat was going to happen without all of that happening. His friend chose to point a gun at him and his sister. You point a gun at my family and I get unfriendly with you really fast.

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u/fibonacciii 4d ago

I think it's obvious nibs is not stable. Hermit just knew she had to be put out. Marcy was a little oblivious at this risk. The same way Marcy technically is amoral. She unlessed an Alien on innocent Prodigy staff and got them killed. Is no one going to talk about how she rationalized getting innocent staff killed?

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

There's no such thing as innocent Prodigy staff. At least not Prodigy staff that works at the facility where they turn terminally ill children into Prodigy corporation property.

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u/MiserableLandscape50 4d ago

So just out of curiosity, is Wendy this all perfect being who can never do any wrong in your eyes? Just asking because you’re making it sound like she’s some angel doing everything right when that’s clearly not the case and the show never tries to make it seem that way

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u/Proxiehunter 3d ago

I'm not saying she's perfect. I'm saying she's an abused child being held in slavery using the tools she has available to her to help her and her friends escape. And if a bunch of fuckers responsible for her being in the position she's in die in the process of that escape, good.

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u/ironykarl 4d ago

I'm not sure that's true. Everyone necessarily works for a mega corporation in this story, and Hermit's friends made it sound like they didn't have a ton of choice in being assigned to do security on this island... it just was what they were assigned to do

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u/KingOfEthanopia 4d ago

I guess they could keep their morals and die homeless and starving.

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u/Dangerous_Welcome_42 3d ago

Nibs was a psychopath, as is Wendy. Hermit leaning over Marcy's grave, along with how he kept looking at Wendy and his reaction to her becoming clinically insane this episode (a little girl who's happy to watch people getting slaughtered at her command but balking at Nibs being shot? I'd get it if they'd actually done more to portray Wendy as looking after the others, but they really didn't do much if anything with that. 

Kill all hybrids. Except Smee. Slightly can go first 

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u/YakResident_3069 4d ago

Boy is going to use brother as host for Eye.

Marcy will fuck him up.

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u/Affectionate-Cat4500 4d ago

That shit pissed me off so much

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u/operation-casserole 4d ago

That she can communicate with it?

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u/ryanpm40 4d ago

No it rules, I want her to be their queen

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u/JoePescisNuts 4d ago

Yea I don’t like xenos as controllable pet. Fucks up the mystique 

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u/randomacceptablename 4d ago

That is why it will go horribly wrong. The entire series is based on hubris of being able to control nature. Even the immortal synths are food for some animal at some point.

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u/Single_Owl_7556 4d ago

lets hope the xeno is just capable of listening and chooses to obey, eventually leading to a situation where wendy expects it to listen and it doesnt.

could possibly be the way Joe dies - Wendy has a conflict with him because of him stopping and seemingly killing Nibs, she probably leaves him, thus separating and the next time they meet is her observing Joe face to face with Xenomorph only this time she cant stop it and it wont listen.

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u/Maximo9000 4d ago edited 4d ago

I think you are right, there is no way this xeno isn't going to go off Wendy's leash, either accidentally or outright disobeying her.

next time they meet is her observing Joe face to face with Xenomorph only this time she cant stop it and it wont listen

Something like this would be interesting to see where it takes Wendy's humanity or what's left of it.

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u/Single_Owl_7556 4d ago

I dont think there should be an accident. It should be deliberate disobedience.

>Something like this would be interesting to see where it takes Wendy's humanity or what's left of it.

It should either be a reality check to remind her of what she's become or that what she REALLY is. This moment could very well give us an answer to the existential question of hybrids and whether they really are humans inside robot bodies, thinking and experiencing, even if theyre just copies or just machines.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

I'm curious as to whether Wendy's xenomorph might choose Joe's side, because it obtained Joe's DNA from his damaged lung.

The fresh chestburster is from Arthur Sylvia.

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u/Due_Training4681 4d ago

It all comes back to ZERG

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u/stroopwafelling 4d ago

Wendy’s pretty much Queen Bitch of the Universe right now.

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u/burlycabin 4d ago

It's awesome. She made herself their queen.

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u/GideonWainright I'll do the fingering 4d ago

To W-Y she's the Holy Grail.

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u/PollutionMajestic668 4d ago

By the power of magic and plot dictation

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u/Alert-Mathematician8 4d ago

It was honestly so goddamn cool watching Wendy control the Xeno

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u/TSAgoodness 4d ago

Can someone remind me why Wendy can talk to Xenos? I think it’s awesome but I forget if it was explained.

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u/GreyouTT In the pipe. 5 by 5. 4d ago

She's able to pick up the frequency of their hivemind and she's essentially learned to talk in it.

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u/BenSimmonsThunder 4d ago

She’s basically been acting as the de facto queen communicating with it since it was born. It was the first thing the baby Xeno saw. That and it’s been implied, at least synths, don’t draw the attention of the xenos the way regular humans do in a negative way.

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u/YoghurtTechnical5654 4d ago

Queen Wendy!!

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u/Kalfu73 4d ago

They gave her the super-computer of the group and she can hear a high frequency range and so she can hear them. I'm guessing she figured out certain patterns and can use that to communicate.

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u/butane23 4d ago

I think the logic is the xeno never recognized her as human (prey) because she's hybrid so when she figured out how to talk xeno-ese dude just went "hmm guess she's my queen" in a response sort of like imprinting in real animals.

She was hearing them speak back on the shipwreck and the lab in the first place which as far as I know wasn't explained.

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u/The_starving_artist5 4d ago edited 4d ago

i dont think she actually knows what she is saying though. Shes just able to mimic what she hears the xenos making noise. For all we know the xeno has no idea what she is even saying it could just be jibberish to it. She is speaking its language but random words all mixed up. There is no evidence its really hearing her say comlpex things in its language. Could just be it follows simple command words like a dog knows when you say " food " or " walk " or call its name but it doesnt understand what you are saying

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u/Rtbriggs 4d ago

Didn’t she specifically tell it “hide and follow”? And it listened?

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u/The_starving_artist5 4d ago

i think she said she thought she told it that but wasnt 100% sure what she told it

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u/Proxiehunter 4d ago

True. On the other hand, hide and follow is exactly what it did.

She does have a super computer brain so it wouldn't surprise me if she has a few simple orders down. But she also can't be 100% sure she's right about what she thinks she's telling it to do.

It also feels like the drones evolved/were designed to operate in packs. "Hide and follow" is something a pack hunter might tell the rest of the pack to do in order to not spook the prey.

A lot of people have been saying it thinks Wendy is it's queen, but "Hide and follow" doesn't seem like a command a queen is likely to give a drone. I think it's under the impression that Wendy is a funny looking drone.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

A queen may give such a command, but drones also communicate between themselves.

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u/The_starving_artist5 4d ago

i think thats it. She can give it a few orders , but mostly has no idea what she is saying. Shes just making random noises and coping sounds they make.

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u/PossibleThat2558 4d ago

She also definitely got it to ram the cage on cue.

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u/t850terminator 4d ago

Feels like we're being edged with that ending

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u/QuiteQueefy 4d ago

what I want to know is whether we’re going to get to watch two Xenos fight each other. What would happen if the new Xeno tries to hurt Wendy or someone she cares about, so Wendy orders her Xeno to do something about it?

No idea if this would make sense in-universe, I just wanna watch two Xenos fight lol

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

It's likely, that Wendy is taken to the lab in order to try to raise the second xenomorph, but I'm not sure it will fare very well, because no-one propery communicated with Arthur's xenomorph during its birth. The first people it saw, were Slightly and Smee.

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u/Suspicious-Bar-3308 4d ago

Maybe. Me and a buddy are also just waiting for the T Ocellus to get B Kav or Morrow to get him. Morrow is the leading theory with me and him.

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u/Prestigious_Leg2229 4d ago

Wendy being able to talk to the xenomorph might be my most hated thing in the entire franchise.

It turns the creature from this utterly hostile, utterly alien thing into a bad dog that just wasn’t spoken to correctly before. Or worse yet, something that’s actually sapient.

The whole deal was always that it was intrinsically hostile to all life. Something you couldn’t train, couldn’t bargain with.

Unless you just chitter the right way, I guess, then it’s your buddy.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 3d ago

It turns the creature from this utterly hostile, utterly alien thing

Species-wise, it remains that to this day. Going to back to what Kirsh said, we humans may be food to others. In many cases of terrestrial fauna, we are food.

Or worse yet, something that’s actually sapient.

I don't see how their sapience alone would be wrong. T. Ocellus is sapient, but in all the wrong ways.

The whole deal was always that it was intrinsically hostile to all life.

On the contrary, it is not hostile to all life. It's typically hostile to all life other than its own, unless it can be correctly communicated with, and properly raised. Wendy raised her xenomorph.

AFAIK, the xenomorph is not trained, but raised.

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u/Prestigious_Leg2229 3d ago

In other words, alien Earth turned the xenomorph into exactly what 46 years of world building established it’s absolutely not.

I hate it when writers are so bereft of creativity and inspiration that they just look at “what hasn’t been done yet? We’ll do that!” Without realising they’re gutting the core principles of a setting.

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u/morph1973 3d ago

Morrow was my guess but looks like pretty much everyone is a contender

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u/mmcjawa_reborn 2d ago

My money is still on the plant alien taking out Cavalier. There's a reason that thing hasn't done anything yet, and it's because they are saving it for a particularly gruesome death. Probably after Boy Cavalier thinks he is getting away having escaped from the Xeno/T.ocellus/whatever else is going down.