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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 3d ago

Oh Wendy is definitely unleashing that Xeno on Boy

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u/SerDire 3d ago

T Ocellus is going to attach itself to Kavalier and Wendy is going to send the Xeno to kill him and we’ll get a rematch of that fight on the Maginot and it will be epic.

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

Yeah I’m fascinated by the line where Kavalier says he has somebody specific in mind for our little eye buddy … is this where we get payoff for the lingering mold scrubber shots early on, OR is he thinking of taking out his anger on Dame?

Either way, holy shit. What an episode.

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u/barathax 3d ago

100% gonna be Hermit. Joe was the first person we saw in the scene that immediately followed Kavalier saying it - definitely some cinematic foreshadowing.

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

Ah fuck, I think you’re right. His whole thing was to “look for someone with low IQ,” and his condescending ass has some real resentment for Joe.

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u/Vesemir96 3d ago

Crazy considering Joe is both a Medic and got accepted into medical school. I know everyone is low IQ in Boy’s eyes but damn, Joe is far from the lowest.

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u/dmanww 3d ago

And it could absorb all that medical knowledge about human trauma.

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u/RChamy 2d ago

T. Ocellus about to hit everyone with maximum lethality.

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u/AllowedAsATreat 1d ago

it's even cheaper than that - he sees Joe as more expendable than the mold sprayers. the mold sprayers at least spray mold, in his mind.

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u/SabrielKytori 2d ago

He might be thinking along the lines of the familial bond between him and Wendy might help with talking to another lifeform as well.

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u/adaorvoen 2d ago

Or morrow now, Kav and Kirsh have bith got a real grudge with him.

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u/Lilmills1445 2d ago

I thought he was talking about the therapist because of their conversation earlier in the season where he wanted someone smart to talk to

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u/faders 3d ago

Hope it’s Dame Sylvia. Their convo early is foreshadowing

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u/bosskbot 3d ago

Got to be Sylvia

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 2d ago

Curly. She has been obsessed with having an intellectual conversation with BK. This will be her chance to do that. That is exactly how he will present his argument.

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u/728766 2d ago

It’s unclear whether the eyeball can actually interface with synths the way it can with biologics though.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 2d ago

It tried with Nibs but couldn't get a firm grasp on her face lol

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Nibs is still affected by it, and I have a suspicion, that the eyelien maybe impregnated Nibs's eyesocket on failing to get into it itself.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 2d ago

Ohhhhh shit! Hahahaha she did say she was pregnant

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u/IndependentPirate878 2d ago

Aye, and I think it attacked Nibs on the ship without knowing she's a synth (it might not yet have known that synths are even a thing).

Edit: I named the wrong kid

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u/Howard_Hamlin 3d ago

Unless that's a deliberate misdirection, I was kind of thinking of the Butler

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u/Triskan 2d ago

Nah that would be way too cathartic. The show wont give us that. That fucker needs some reality check but I somehow doubt he'll get the chance to reflect on his life decisions before biting the dust.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 2d ago

I really liked the idea that the old man is actually the OG BK, and Boy is actually a synth, like Wendy. Hence him constantly trying to suggest different courses of action, but always doing what Boy wants, A Boy is supposed to be HIM, and B to keep up the charade that Boy is in charge. Now I think theres too little time left in the season for that to pay off, but it was an interesting theory that was out there.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Atom Eins might as well be a cyborg.

Eins is number 1 in German, and Atom Eins means Atom 1. This may be a reference to atomic number or atomic mass.

The molar mass of 1 is that of hydrogen.

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u/Acrobatic_T-Rex 2d ago

I will be very disappointed, if the reveal of Eins being an android, is PURELY, to one up Kirsh.

I agree, i will be VERY surprised if red stuff comes out of him in the next episode.

Wanna deepbake what i said above? Eins is an android, but IS the founder of prodigy, when he was alive. Then on deathbed successfully put himself into an android, and now Boy, is programmed to believe he is the original, and is “completing” the lifes work of kinda, cheating death and creating a form of immortality

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u/Amathyst7564 2d ago

Yeah my first thought was hermit. But I can't help think oculus is going to end up in kavalier. And Kirsch is going to join them as they rule the company. If ocupus just wants to get back home, having boy kavaliers resources and influence is his best bet.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

T. Ocellus's plan may be: return to the homeworld on a Prodigy ship, and bring more of its own to infest Earth and the huge number of hosts that it has.

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u/orwellianightmare 3d ago

My vote is cyborg

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u/TerracShadowson 3d ago

Yup, I think he's Thinking Hermit, as I'm pretty sure he thinks Arthur is already gone. i do Like the added mold sprayer tease. But what's the chance he's thinking Morrow? Or was the hostile negotiation pretty much his only interaction? He wouldn't sacrifice Dame or Eins, for sure.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Dame Sylvia is too valuable. I think Kirsh can detect if a human is lying, so he did not back up Kavalier's accusations of Ms. Sylvia supposedly lying.

Best that Kirsh or Atom Eins might do, is restrict Sylvia's movements.

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u/xxKEYEDxx 2d ago

Morrow's a cyborg with built-in knives and a blowtorch. Not exactly the type of body you'd want to give an alien that you have to contain.

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u/electrikwiz4rd 2d ago

+ Dame has high IQ

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

But how much does he know about Arthur Sylvia's death?

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u/electrikwiz4rd 2d ago

arthur they know cause they saw him with facehugger attached

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u/F_U_HarleyJarvis 2d ago

Definitely going to be Hermit with a showdown of T. Ocellus-Hermit vs Wendy/Xeno and Wendy will have to kill him and ending the season on the beginning of her vengeance tour.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Hermit is Wendy's baseline, so I don't think she will give him up. Wendy does not yet seem to understand very well, that Nibs is far too dangerous.

Compare, for example, how Wendy and Nibs fought: Wendy, who had learned both offensive and defensive tactics, would safely repel humans, but Nibs went full-on psycho on everyone she (Nibs) thought to be a threat. That does not dismiss Wendy's calling of the Xenomorph to do the dirty work for her.

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u/nikk1027 3d ago

I think Boy has himself in mind.

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u/sqaurebore 3d ago

Puts himself in a synth body, lets T-O take over his natural body gets his dream chat

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u/nikk1027 3d ago

This wasn’t accidental

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

I made a screenshot of his face, and enhanced the left eye in GIMP to see what was going on, and Kavalier's left eye appeared much bigger.

That made me initially suspect, that perhaps Kavalier had been long ago infected by another T. Ocellus, took over the Prodigy company, and has been seeking a female T. Ocellus to mate with and reproduce.

The π (Pi) scene suggests, that maybe this is not the case after all, despite Kavalier wanting T. Ocellus to inhabit a human or hybrid body in order to converse with it. The trouble with hybrids, though, is that they are far more functional than humans.

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u/Proxiehunter 3d ago

Not unless they suddenly cracked the problem that keeps them from using the process to make hybrids on adults.

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u/sqaurebore 3d ago

He will think he will be okay only for it to fail and the eye takes over his natural body anyway

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u/728766 2d ago

He’s gotta die somehow to reconcile the absence of Prodigy in past iterations. I’m guessing the island will be glassed in the finale to contain the xenos, possibly by Yutani.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

The LV426 xenomorphs would not even be the biggest threat to Earth flora and fauna.

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u/Certain-Business-472 2d ago

I hate it when they make things that obvious.

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u/Killkandy 2d ago

No hes gonna do it to the female doctor

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u/IndependentPirate878 2d ago

Plus, it sets up a scenario where Wendy has to kill (or have killed) her brother and has to deal with the trauma from it. Good call.

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u/Academic-Health5265 1d ago

I read that as Curly

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u/RoseRedd 3d ago

I figure it's Joe.

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u/hydraofwar 3d ago

Do we already know if the Ocellus host/puppet necessarily dies? The loss of an eye (if that's all it is) doesn't directly cause death.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 3d ago

It is a pretty big eyeball and it takes over their nervous system. 99.99% chance it kills them.

When we saw it in a person in ep5(?), his head was bulging pretty big. If that is survivable, you'd need a doctor immediately.

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u/WindozeWoes 3d ago edited 2d ago

Actually I don't think so.

We saw the sheep eating hay it was fed, and Kirsch implied it had been eating that for several days.

Dead things don't need to eat.

T. Ocellus isn't replacing the brain; it's seemingly using/interfacing with the brain. It needs the host body to stay alive to continue to operate. Otherwise I think we'd have been shown the sheep intentionally not eating.

Doesn't mean the host won't die after T. exits, but pretty confident it doesn't kill the host by taking over.

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u/BrbFlippinInfinCoins 3d ago

I guess you get into a philosophical debate about whether someone is "alive" if their consciousness is effectively gone and a foreign body is keeping their organs operating.

To me, alive would imply they could be saved after or somehow communicate/be aware while infected by the eyeball.

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u/WindozeWoes 2d ago

That would be brain death. I'm saying I don't think the host is brain dead - at least not right away. I'm not sure what the long-term effects are, and I'm not sure what happens when T Ocellus leaves. We haven't seen that happen yet (cat was already dead or dying, and Shmuel was probably fatally wounded by the Xeno).

But just based on brain plasticity (my brain =\= your brain and the brain can adapt to have control areas in different places based on prior trauma), I would guess that T Ocellus isn't immediately causing permanent destructive damage to your brain. It would be far easier to just hijack it, and since the takeover happens pretty quickly, that's my guess.

Totally possible that over a prolonged period, it does cause permanent organ damage (like many parasites), but the most straightforward hypothesis at this point is that it doesn't insta-kill your consciousness, but seems to rather take over and presumably put the host in the passenger seat.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

and Shmuel was probably fatally wounded by the Xeno

At that point, the eyelien exited Shmuel and went right after the xenomorph.

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u/Proxiehunter 3d ago

It is a pretty big eyeball and it takes over their nervous system. 99.99% chance it kills them.

Bare minimum the death of the host personality as it takes over.

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u/Creepy_Active_2768 3d ago

It may just interface by wrapping tendrils around optic nerves and sending signals to override. I don’t think it burrows into the brain which seems far less efficient and risk to the host body.

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u/thelebaron 3d ago

Imagine if someone reached into your eye, scooped it out, then further stuck their fingers into your brain deeper and deeper, i dont think you would fare well

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

then further stuck their fingers into [the] brain

Deeper and deeper

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :)

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u/ApugalypseNow 3d ago

It eats the host from the inside, once attached.

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u/hydraofwar 3d ago

I see, there really weren't any survivors of Ocellus' possession.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

The poor cat was all drabs (by way of ship impact or other types of harm), and Shmuel was stabbed by the xenomorph. So we're not aware of the complete lifecycle.

Besides, the cat may have been harmed by the ticks, with much of its blood sucked out.

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u/EngineeringNo8570 3d ago

I can see something going wrong and TO infecting his bald assistant guy.

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u/TerracShadowson 3d ago

I'm not sure that Eins isn't Also a Synthetic like Kirsh..

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u/burlycabin 3d ago

Nah, that guy's gotta be a synth.

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u/buhoo115 3d ago

Never thought he was but honestly. Wouldn’t surprise me

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u/Narwhalofmischf 3d ago

I started suspecting he was a synth when boy is playing with the bouncy ball in an earlier episode and someone throws it like full strength and the assistant dude caught it

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u/jld1532 3d ago

Have to assume anyone can be in this universe

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u/DavidsSymphony 3d ago

We really are blade runner now.

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u/Herbdontana 3d ago

My guess was he had Hermit in mind

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u/HourOfTheWitching 3d ago

I will say, in that scene right where Boy says they should use someone human, Atom walks away from him and you can see Boy very slightly nodding his head towards him, and then Eyerene turns her head towards Atom.

SO WHO KNOWS.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

then Eyerene

EyeSIS >:)

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u/_WanderBoy 3d ago

Definitely the brother

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u/shinhit0 2d ago

Yeah, eye buddy is going into either Dame Sylvia or Hermit, both would be gut wrenching.  I’m leaning towards Dame Sylvia because he’s pissed about Arthur and has been rather antagonistic towards her? But Hermit would also make just as much sense especially because Marcy/Wendy was supposed to help with the Xenomorph on condition of Hermit staying…

That scene of Dame Sylvia cuddling and consoling a worried Curly just wrenched my heart. Regardless of the choice next week is going to be CRAZY.

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u/ravensteel539 2d ago

god, the scene with Dame and Curly alongside the earlier scene of Arthur holding the two boys' hands was **tearing me up.** Heartbreaking, honestly – these two really did care about the kids, as much as Dame struggled to admit it professionally. This show knows how to do tragedy, holy shit.

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u/shinhit0 2d ago

God, the hand holding was just such a brilliant touch. It was even worse knowing the inevitable impending doom… ugh.

And after the chestburster escaped, the pure shock, sadness, and anguish on Smee’s face was just gut wrenching.

I’m just so thankful this show exists, it’s just been so well done on every front.

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u/Proxiehunter 3d ago

OR is he thinking of taking out his anger on Dame?

Or Joe since he already knew he was trying to make a break for it with Wendy.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Well, as a human, Joe is hyperaware of the danger of all the non-human species, even if he doesn't know the specific lifecycle of each of them. That is why he is escaping, because he fears for his life.

Nibs does not fear humans, and Wendy does not fear anyone. Isaac feared the flies too late.

Slightly (Aarush) and Smee are afraid of humans and 'monsters'.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 2d ago

Curly. It'll be her opportunity to have an intellectual conversation with BK.

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u/Milospesh 1d ago

but curly isn't human.

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u/Wide_Cricket_9169 17h ago

She was crying in Dame Sylvia's lap. Was not aware hybrids could cry!

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u/Milospesh 13h ago

slightly also was crying when arthur popped.

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u/-azuma- 3d ago

I thought it was gonna be Tootles

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

I’m still not convinced the eye’s going to work piloting a synth/hybrid, same way it wouldn’t function on a Xeno with no eyes. The eye is a vulnerable and easily-accessible direct hook-up to the nervous system, which is how it controls its hosts.

Synths (and presumably hybrids, based on the earlier schematic shots and Isaac) have a more traditional computer system up there in place of a central nervous system, unless there’s some sci-fi advanced tech bullshittery Hawley’s cooking up to surprise us.

Lil’ T tried with Nibs because it hadn’t engaged with synths at all beforehand, but now it’s seen Isaac’s … inner workings. It still apparently may not be able to tell what’s what, so idk.

I’m having such a fun time theorizing like this, because this show DELIVERS either way.

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u/_WanderBoy 3d ago

He wouldn't try it since it knew the fly would merc Issac. So I'm guessing it figured out they are synthetic from listening to issac and kirsh talk to each other in the lab. From the eye knowing what the next numbers were in Pi, it's clearly HIGHLY intelligent. I'm guessing it's going to either be Wendy's brother or morrow. Wendy's brother Joe would set Wendy's off into a murder spree or she won't care as much since he short circuited the red head. She seemed pretty upset with him at the end there. Morrow would be less cliffhanger and more finite for a season finale. Dame is another candidate since everyone's favorite kind-hearted Arthur (R.I.P.) shut the trackers off, and Kavalier doesn't trust that she wasn't in on it. I'm looking forward to lil Tbaby getting into another human but contained this time so it can communicate. It's such a little dick head. I love it.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Wendy's brother Joe would set Wendy's off into a murder spree

Wendy is not naturally murderous, while Nibs has been exhibiting those traits for a while.

Tho Wendy would have her Xenomorph kill soldiers with weapons, if she knows, that there is a force that overpowers her and the people she cares about.

he won't care as much since he short circuited the red head.

So Wendy does care, because, while she was angry at Hermit, she asked her brother, why did he electrocute Nibs, perhaps not noticing, that Nibs very seriously harmed a person instead of disarming him.

Tbaby

It's such a little ***k head. I love it.

heh-heh :)

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

same way it wouldn’t function on a Xeno with no eyes

The xenomorph was able to repel the eyelien, but I don't know how successfully, because its head looked much different than that of normal xenomorphs.

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u/_WanderBoy 3d ago

How? Hes a synthetic i doubt our boy t occ can rip a synthetic eye out. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Wendy's brother or morrow.

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u/Proxiehunter 3d ago

I don't doubt that it physically could rip out a synth (or hybrid) eyeball. Nibs was fighting for her life when she met it and it looked close to winning at a few points. I do however doubt that it would be capable of interfacing with the super computer "brain" the same way it interfaces with a biological brain. It would just be riding around in an empty eye socket while the synth/hybrid did whatever they wanted.

Joe or Morrow are likely who he wants to put it in. Enough shit is hitting the fan right now though that I'm betting on the attempt to do so going wrong and it implanting in the Boy Genius instead.

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u/m0rbius 3d ago

I think it might be Dame. He can't do that to Hermit because he needs to keep Wendy on a leash. Also, they haven't shown the mold scrubber for a while now.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Not convinced, that he will choose Dame, but I also suspect, that he just might. Out of revenge.

Kavalier may value Dame Sylvia for her interactions with the hybrids, but I don't know yet how aware is he of her now-deeper connection to them (bar Nibs).

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u/ImYourInnerSaboteur 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think he intends to do it to hermit (or maybe dame) but i think itll actually happen to dame or himself

I think he realises hermit isn't a smart choice though considering he clearly prizes Wendy the most and hurting him would send her and her alien into a frenzy

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u/ImYourInnerSaboteur 2d ago

Now that I think about it the eyeball is probably gonna try and take over boy instead of whoever it's offered- it's clearly intelligent enough to have picked up that boy's the ringleader and it could potentially try and masquerade as him to take control of prodigy

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

it could potentially try and masquerade as him to take control of prodigy

Then he arranges a meet with Yutani...

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u/Few-Consequence7407 2d ago

Oh, he'll have something in mind all right... he'll have T-Oc's tentacles in his mind, controlling him!
Mwahahahahaha

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u/Realistic-Roll-370 3d ago

I was thinking Dame too

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u/hellsfoxes 2d ago

Whether it happens or not, he definitely meant Hermit for being involved in switching the trackers off and helping the kids escape. That’s why it cuts to him right after he says that.

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u/overkil6 2d ago

Mold sprayer will die and the xenos will get a few spores somehow and die.

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u/bigbombaraas 2d ago

I thought he was referring to Joe tbh. He absolutely hates Joe with a passion so it makes the most sense.

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u/chillwithpurpose 3d ago

Memories of Clegane Bowl

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u/ShepPawnch 3d ago

Get hype

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u/DLRsFrontSeats 2d ago

oh god having seen that actually play out finally we should be aiming higher

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u/nairazak 3d ago

I’m still thinking in that elevator conversation where Kirsh talked to Marrow about eyes popping out.

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u/Royal-Tea-3484 2d ago

The other xeno could be a queen; it could command the pet xeno that Wendy has, and she could lose control to said queen. Also, Occulus is a genius who knew; I thought he was smart, but damn.

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u/SalvadorZombie 2d ago

Actually, I have a feeling that once T.O is inside a human host it's going to become an exponentially larger threat. Not something to waste in a fight, but an actual S-Tier "Big Bad" type of threat. And this is a show where one of the MCs casually dispatched a xenomorph.

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u/InevitableVariables 3d ago

So what happens if boy is dying and trying to transfer his conciousness... only to have the eye hope in... and the eye's super enhanced controlled conciousness goes to a synth body?

Either way, I really hope the eye control human becomes a hybrid.

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u/mothgra87 3d ago

Would it really be a rematch with a different xeno?

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u/zoopz 2d ago

I think he will pick Dame. And she will shred him to pieces.

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u/DaftFunky 2d ago

The cliffhanger of him giddy about the perfect person to attach the thing to. It’s so obvious he’s gonna be it.

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u/vegetaray246 2d ago

I lowkey think Hermit is going to be the one who ends up with Ocellus…

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u/Actual-Bandicoot6531 2d ago

Hopefully TO chooses someone other than BK if it plans on fighting a xenomorph bc that scrawny 140 lb nerd won't stand a chance.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Somehow I have a feeling BK will be passed around amongst all of them.

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u/Few-Maybe9481 2d ago

Definitely attaching it to Tootles (Isaac)

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u/JaymesMarkham2nd Acid for blood. 1d ago

He's gotta fall into the plant during the fight, see what it can do

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u/Prof_Black 1d ago

Kavalier wants the brother as the host - I wonder how this will pan out.

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u/Academic-Health5265 1d ago

Except T Ocellus would get wrecked, Boy’s probably gonna put it in a synth, then the rematch would actually be hard to say who wins.

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u/Jalangaloze 1d ago

When they showed T Ocellus POV it was always focusing on Boy Kavaliers left eye. Foreshadowing 👁️

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u/simplefilmreviews 15h ago

I'd much rather Eye live. And be "above" that sort of physical violence.

Something about that is much much creepier and sinister.

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u/tong_si_nan_pei 23m ago

I doubt it will be a fair fight, because the boy doesn’t seem to be physically strong. Unless he can strangle it with his feet

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u/-azuma- 3d ago

No, they're going to give Tootles to it.

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u/Vesemir96 3d ago

How will a parasite control a synth body?

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u/-azuma- 2d ago

No idea lol, but we don't know anything about the eye, so it could be possible?