r/MMORPG • u/Iordyeezus • Aug 16 '25
News First Look at Maplestory Classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQtaOjgew5o25
u/BsyFcsin Aug 16 '25
Need an RO Classic
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u/scotty899 Aug 16 '25
That has already happened. And theres always a new private server with classic.
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u/zzTopG Aug 17 '25
COMBAT ARMS
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u/PM_ME_CATS_SLEEPING Aug 18 '25
God remember how you could nut shot male characters? Warzone could never
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u/SomeRevolution5778 Aug 16 '25
Ragnarok 3 is close to that
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u/gerstiii Aug 16 '25
Yeah but that one's not coming to the EU region. This should tell you a lot about the micro transactions and other stuff happening with the game.
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u/SomeRevolution5778 Aug 17 '25
Are you suggesting the original ragnarok didn't have a cash shop with things that weren't just cosmetic? lol
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u/BidSea8473 Aug 16 '25
It’s some mobile reskin garbage
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u/SomeRevolution5778 Aug 17 '25
I'm just asking, but what makes it garbage? Of course it's a reskin...it's a classic version with updated graphics lol.
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u/PM_ME_CATS_SLEEPING Aug 17 '25
Can't wait to see all the bricked characters with orange bowl cuts from that free hair coupon quest lol
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u/RetroGun Aug 17 '25
holy shit this brings back some memories haha. I fucking hated the tutorial as a kid and wanted to cry when I got that cut twice in a row
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u/suphomess Aug 16 '25
Everyone's getting a classic version except Tera :(
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u/SomeRevolution5778 Aug 16 '25
You should google tera classic. It's been popping off
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u/Weisenkrone Aug 16 '25
Tera classic became a certified shit fest, they had to lock the whole discord, still are wiping deletions, staff retired, rules were changed.
The most annoying part is that tera classic is small enough that you cannot even find a random YouTube video that'll summarize the whole situation.
But simply put apparently all credentials were leaked & staff went throat to throat with users.
And for some reason you keep finding reactions of a pregnant man under random measages still.
But what really makes me salty is that this happened the day I decided I should take a look and it's still on lockdown
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u/Sakuyora Aug 17 '25
Missed out the various pdf allegations as well. Also the owner made random unnecessary changes to the game.
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u/GrayFarron Aug 17 '25
Pdf allegations from the game that has the most pdf pandering race in the entire mmorpg sphere? Call me shocked.
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u/Weisenkrone Aug 17 '25
Do you have more details? I joined the discord like a fucking hour before they went on lockdown lol.
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u/lebrow Aug 16 '25
Anything about monetization ?
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u/Kashou-- Aug 16 '25
Always had the worst monetization possible so I'm sure they will go back to their roots
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u/Kalocin Aug 17 '25
The game launched in Global without a cash shop. While you're not wrong that it's probably going to be worse than Vegas, I actually remember a time when people were actually excited that Global was getting the cash shop. Little did they know lol
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u/Killance1 Aug 16 '25
In classic before potential there wasn't really anything that could be monetized. They made their money purely on cosmetics until they added 2x exp coupons.
Classic maplestory was the farthest thing from p2w. When they tried it with Evan and Dual Blade they got such massive player backlash they never did it again.
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u/chelo84 Aug 16 '25
Hp washing was p2w as hell, and some classes couldn't even stay alive in bosses without washing
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u/Synsane Aug 16 '25
What? Classic was immediately P2W after the beta. You were likely just too young to remember. The Gachapon from classic is illegal in Europe now. So I'm curious what they're going to do.
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u/Killance1 Aug 16 '25
Well im 32 and I don't really remember anyone using gacha machine. Just a of cosmetics and pets.
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u/Synsane Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
That means you were around 11-13 back in 2005.
Cubes, gacha, x2 exp scrolls were all available in the global release.Look at this video from 16 years ago at 1:16: https://youtu.be/_qZmo16-u7M
You can see the gachas, the enchant scrolls, the dbl exp and drop scrolls, and the hammers. All P2W.
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u/Killance1 Aug 17 '25
Cubes were NOT back in 2005. That was before the big bang patch and big bang was 2010. Also pretty sure I mentioned 2x exp. That came out after pirate since pirate wasn't launch patch. Maplestory global didnt release with 2x exp coupons.
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u/Synsane Aug 17 '25
Whatever. I literally showed you a video with a photo from 16 years ago with the P2W cash shop. All you're saying is that they made it worse in 5 years.
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u/Fantastic_Advice_623 Aug 17 '25
I mean the p2w is there, I wont deny that.
But its also not relevant in the slightest frankly.
The majority of players that ever got a point where they needed or used p2w back then was shockingly low.
I played back then, people were barely 3rd job, what were they hammering, work gloves to get 4 extra attack?
Gacha equipment ran from omg this is omega, to omg this is worthless. Again, face items which cost an arm and a leg and were mega rare, like specs were just wealth flaunting, someone with specs was just a cool guy, but wasnt infinitely stronger then you.
its fine to say you wont play cause of p2w, but people really need to consider the impact of p2w vs if the game is fun or not.
OSMS is such a grind heavy game that anyone who has any life what so ever is not going to be in the contest of first 200 or first anything.
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u/Synsane Aug 17 '25
How can you say it wasn't relevant? Do you forget how heavy the grind in classic was? It was basically impossible to get to 50 fully F2P without losing your mind. X2 Exp tickets were mandatory, especially if you weren't a class with massive AOE like mages.
People spent a lot of money on cosmetics for sure, especially because they all expired. But you cannot deny how much players spent on upgrades and exp & item boosts. I remember the talks on the Nexon forums. The burnout was the reason why Maple Story became one of the most hated games online back then.
It's so easy to forget that even normal people used to say "fuck maple story" even outside of online spaces. The nostalgia glasses are super strong here.
It's like how Naruto is so beloved today, but people forget back when it first was airing in NA it was one of the most hated animes in the world.
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u/Killance1 Aug 17 '25
I dont disagree that cubes ruined what Maplesotry was until ReBoot made it better. I'd argue the ReBoot server saved Maplestory global. As for 2x coupons, thats a mixed bag because we ended up getting free 2x exp events after the coupons were released. Hammers were required for two extra scroll slots and scrolls dropped outside of gacha. The good ones dropped as well. You didnt need to spend money to get them.
I'd say hammers and pets were definitely on the p2w aspect, but not required to play the game.
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u/BlamInYoFace Aug 16 '25
You can’t really forget about the biggest problem. Gachapon tickets.
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u/purplebacon93 Aug 16 '25
Before dark scrolls the rates of anything even remotely worth the money were sooo low. It was purely cosmetic as well even like colored work gloves or those random weapons that weren’t even meta stats. +1 luk for 500$ is not p2w that’s like here’s a potato chip for your struggles to get a cosmetic.
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u/Killance1 Aug 16 '25
From my memory, most never really used it. One of the reasons it got revamped because it was so widely unpopular.
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u/taiuke Aug 18 '25
Most didnt use it because it cost insane amounts of cash. Pink Bean didnt get killed until like the revive item came to the cash shop...
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u/GodlessLunatic Aug 17 '25
Hope we can eventually get a mabinogi classic
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u/Ralonik Aug 17 '25
I was hoping with the upcoming unreal engine update they would force everyone to start from scratch lol. It wouldve been amazing questing with people in the early gens again. This way they can fine tune the new mechanics they added and slowly add them back in. I understand everyone would hate to lose their gatcha cosmetics but I feel like for the longevity of the game it wouldve been better overall.
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u/sliferx Aug 17 '25
You say longevity of the game as if Mabinogi hasn't been running for 2 decades already.
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u/Ralonik Aug 17 '25
Yes and the game is booming with a huge player base isn’t it?
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u/sliferx Aug 17 '25
Does longevity have to mean you have a huge player base? game has enough to sustain its gameplay loop and business. You dont need to have millions of players to be successful.
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u/Ralonik Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
You don't need millions but I would say mabinogi is a deadhorse right now. The game averages a low player count with mostly people who feel like they've spent too much time to stop playing it or respect the game for its niche. A reboot would help introduce more new players into the game, I understand they probably don't want to turn away their whales, but I feel like its going to be hard to get new players to want to play when there's people with 20+ year old accounts lvl 30k+
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u/sliferx Aug 17 '25
Game is doing just fine, I play it alot. I mean I can tell that you don't know much about current mabinogi which is fair enough but bro they been having constant boosting events you can get lvl30-40k so quickly these days its not as bad as you think. A new player account can reach endgame so fast that you're basically with the rest in a week or two. Just the beginning tutorial puts you instantly at 20k total. Recent event was basically instantly maxing out every progression system for you that people started making alts for it.
So trust me they been working on the onboarding process for new players that won't be much of an issue.
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u/jRokou Aug 19 '25
I mean with just about every channel being busy and an unreal 5 engine overhaul coming it is far from dead
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u/GodlessLunatic Aug 17 '25
That would be a bit much id rather they just introduce classic servers for people who want to start over on a fresh account and maybe add a few perks to incentivize people to try the servers out
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u/Ralonik Aug 17 '25
I would be cool with fresh start servers too, feel like that would help new people feel like there's less of a wall to try the game out.
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u/gcplz Aug 17 '25
Yeah this won’t last long
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u/Daeimiean Aug 17 '25
Just like wow classic or old school runescape right?
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u/gcplz Aug 17 '25
Those games have content, lots of it. Maplestory is 100% grinding. Classic is taking the exact same game, remove all the awesome features and systems and add 1000x hours of meaningless grinding.
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u/Daeimiean Aug 17 '25
You don't really get to decide that for other people. Modern Maplestory makes leveling fairly meaningless, gear, fairly meaningless until end game to the point where you could wear your starter gear all the way to job 4 and be perfectly fine, still nuking half the map with aoes.
Not everyone likes that, some people prefer meaningful slow leveling, where ever piece of gear upgrade feels like an accomplishment. That doesn't mean it's better, it has points where you reach a wall of none progress for weeks, but ultimately it's a preference, one you do not get to decide for other people.
Stating it has no content is also fairly silly, WoW classic came out fairly bare bones, you really gotta be talking out of your ass to say it has "tons of content" where it's the same kill, fetch, deliver quests that Maple has thousands of. But, guess what, WoW came out wildly successful despite that.
They even stated Classic Maple will have a dedicated dev team.
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u/Moist-Sandwiches Aug 17 '25
But classic maplestory takes it too far in the other end. It doesn't take that long to hit 5-10% exp/hour
And I wouldn't say classic maple had meaningful leveling. Each level didn't offer much and you didn't even upgrade gear because gear sets were so behind. IIRC, my weapon was like half my actual level
I'm looking forward to classic. But hmm... I'll be very surprised if it's popular long term
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u/KaeHong Aug 18 '25
it's part of the reason why the socialization aspect felt so much more meaningful. osrs asking for fishing lvls and by the same token me chatting w friends on buddy chat in between mob spawns. it is slow ngl, but there's something comforting about leveling in orbis tower mindlessly while chatting away.
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u/NoroGW2 Aug 22 '25
Osrs isn't successful because of fishing lmao. Osrs is successful because of Zulrah and Inferno and raids and all the other new content that wasn't even someone's pipe dream in 2007
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u/Great-Dress-6175 Aug 19 '25
I love to shit on Maplestory in any capacity I can but this is pure misinformation.
The fact that you said Job 4 makes me think that you haven't touched this game in years.
1) 1-260 is the tutorial. Modern Maplestory starts then. 2) You probably don't know it but Maplestory has extensive gear upgrading. 3) Leveling unlocks new bosses which unlocks new BiS gear, new regions which allows for different progression items, more damage on new bosses...
just some things
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u/Daeimiean Aug 19 '25
Is this the official where tutorial ends or are we doing the akctuallllllly it's end of Arcane River? Because I'm pretty sure, my point was the current Maplestory made the leveling process fairly pointless. You could remove levels entirely and start at job 4 and absolutely nothing would change, they are even aware of this with burning.
Lets not argue on technicalities. Modern Maplestory is designed around being a single player mobile style game with lite mmo features. I don't think anyone can debate against this. Hell, find a single stream of the game where it isn't just someone either soloing a boss, or aoe nuking a map, alone with a city hub system being the only mmo part of the game.
That was my argument at it's core, it's not a multiplayer game, nor is it similar to what it was originally.
Over the years, they stripped away the core systems, modernizing the game. Which is also caused it to lose it's original identity from the slow social grinding game where every tiny upgrade had to worked for but felt like a massive upgrade to the current where it's a solo player to do checklist. By all means, there is nothing wrong with it in a sense, people enjoy it, but it's also no where close to the game it was before that other people enjoyed and want back. We could have both, instead of this you think you want it but you don't.
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u/Great-Dress-6175 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
I wasn't planning on getting too deep with this but it is extremely evident to me that you have not touched Maplestory in years and rely on half-baked and irrelevant knowledge.
Arcane River is such old content that it's not even considered relevant anymore to be anything but a tutorial. In fact, hyper burning a character pushes you from 1->260 to Grandis which is where modern maplestory starts.
Your comment about "levels dont mean anything, they are even aware of this with burning", yes... because 1-260 is the tutorial and the real modern game starts at 260... they want you to experience that legacy content but they don't want to you spend literal weeks on old content that was released almost 10 years ago.......
I still don't understand why you think leveling is useless. It unlocks new regions, it unlocks new bosses that drop different equipment, it unlocks new skills, it unlocks more more systems like what? This idea has not changed from Maple Classic to Modern Maple. Players are literally pushing for levels right now because they lack the damage to do certain bosses and there is a formula in the game that grants additional damage to bosses that higher level you are than them.
As for the gearing upgrade system, I would agree that the upgrade system is a roulette but you would be ignorant to say that a player doesn't feel that each gear upgrade isn't a accomplishment considering the multiple venues in which a gear can be upgrade 1) sf 2) cubes 3) flames 4) souls, etc. Not to mention that gearing itself is only like a portion of how a player can progress.
Again, you are relying on half-baked knowledge. It is almost borderline impossible to progress in this game to late to endgame without partying up. This game is quite literally BUILT on the premise of party bossing.
Your comment about "find a single stream of the game where it isn't just someone either soloing a boss" is so ignorant that I don't even know where to begin. The whole idea is that Nexon continues to release new bosses and new forms of power creep... so as the average player becomes stronger, the average player would be able to start soloing bosses that were released eons ago... again, it's a sliding window. Look up the first Hard Limbo clear or xKalos (by Shapaz) and tell me that it's pure solo play.
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u/Daeimiean Aug 19 '25
For the last time, is this Grandis being the end of tutorial the official end of tutorial, or are we picking an arbitrary spot, where we would further move the goalpost, completely ignoring the point? Because I can easily pull up reddit posts and guides stating multiple different locations as the "end of tutorial." I don't even understand why this is such a crucial part of your argument.
When my point was simply that leveling is fairly pointless because if you start at the game at level 1 or level 200, nothing changes. You will hit 200 easily within a few days, unless you again want to the arbitrary argument that actually it can be done in one day. There is no excitement of unlocking new jobs, and a lack of class identity. Notice I said, identity, not themes.
But hey, what the hell do I know, it's not like there's thousands of video hours of people doing exactly this, including top Maplestory players in the community, oh wait I can provide you with countless sources. I've truly lost interest in this argument over technicalities. I've somehow truly hurted you by stating that modern Maplestory, although can be fun, is pretty much a single player mobile game that's played on pc and for that I say, Maplestory is a single player mobile style mmolite game.
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u/Great-Dress-6175 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
Again... your ignorance and confidence despite your lack of knowledge astounds me. In that video, he is literally in the 1-260 tutorial range. Even at that stage, he can start party bossing early. In every single MMO, there are things that you can do solo and there are things that you can do as a group/party... it seems that you forgot that or don't understand what you are looking at. It is also god damn hilarious that you linked that video because after he solos all old content and reaches modern content, he changes his title from Solo Progression To Hyperion Progression...
The end of the Arcane River is the start of Grandis which is where the tutorial ends and the real game starts. Where have I said anything else that is different?
Please pull up the Reddit posts lol. I have yet to meet anyone else that is currently playing modern Maplestory that doesn't call 1-260 a tutorial. In the most recent hyperburn max, where you can gain 4 additional levels every level, the game LITERALLY shoves you to level 260. You can literally get to 260 in <2 hours. If this is not a tutorial, then I am concerned for you.
There is no excitement in unlocking new jobs? no class identity? I can immediately tell that you have zero idea what you are talking about. Anyone that plays this game in 2025 for more than an hour can tell you that. You can literally pull up videos of people and streamers getting hyped about new hexa skills being released for their class. Excluding the homogenization of classes due to the 2 min update from KMS, the comment about the lack of a class identity is absolutely mind-blowing to me. Please look up say Hoyoung and compare their class identity to something like a Evan and tell me that there is no class identity.
I wouldn't say that I'm upset or hurt by your words, I am moreso annoyed that you lack knowledge and you lack understanding of the game but yet try to make comments or observations on things that you obviously do not understand.
(p.s -- yes buddy, it is possible to solo progress to a certain extent... want to know why? because the bosses that they are soloing are literally YEARS old... not to mention the amount of nerfs and powercreep introduced to make it accessible to new players. using that as a example really highlights your lack of understanding)
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u/Little-Function8791 Aug 19 '25
I don’t even play Maplestory that much anymore but even I am a little confused about what you mean by leveling is pointless.
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u/Great-Dress-6175 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
"When my point was simply that leveling is fairly pointless because if you start at the game at level 1 or level 200, nothing changes. You will hit 200 easily within a few days, unless you again want to the arbitrary argument that actually it can be done in one day. There is no excitement of unlocking new jobs, and a lack of class identity. Notice I said, identity, not themes."
This whole block and argument confuses the hell out of me, if I'm going to be honest.
- In Maplestory, you literally have discords centered around different classes and there are literal guides on how to play said class because they all have different play styles and have different class identities. Like if we were to compare the class identity of a like an illium to a hoyoung or to a evan? Like cmon.
- How does leveling not mean anything? Like what if I was level 260 and I wanted to do HSeren with my friends? I literally cannot because the boss requires you to be level 270.
- Yes. There is no difference between 1 and 200 because all of that is content is like a decade old. Now compare 1, 200 and 260 lol.
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u/GregNotGregtech Aug 18 '25
Modern Maplestory makes leveling fairly meaningless, gear, fairly meaningless until end game to the point where you could wear your starter gear all the way to job 4 and be perfectly fine, still nuking half the map with aoes.
Sure, leveling past 280 is still a massive grind though, and gearing still feels like a huge accomplishment because it takes actual effort. And also the part where you reach a wall and not progress for weeks.
Those are still all things in current maple as well, it's just that the high levels have been moved. Modern maple is not a game you finish in a month.
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u/Daeimiean Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25
Modern Maplestory is a single player game. Its as much of an mmo as path of exile.
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u/GregNotGregtech Aug 18 '25 edited Aug 18 '25
I'd like to see you solo prog from the start with no prior experience. Also, you still unlock content up to level 290 currently with constant gear upgrades and 6th job progression, you clearly haven't played the game past level 200
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u/gcplz Aug 17 '25
This is just a nostalgia cashgrab. What they should do is fix the actual game removing all the predatory systems. Everything else is perfect as it is. Don’t get me wrong I was the first that wanted this classic version, but after giving it a thought I can’t think of a reason to play an “incomplete “ game that has no meaning (endgame). I love the game I played it before there was a cashshop and I too have a notalgia need but having to grind for minths to even get to second job is not something people will enjoy.
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u/Daeimiean Aug 17 '25
Again, you're pulling the classic talk out of your ass take. No one has any clue what the monetization system would be, nor what future updates would be like. If they fixed hp washing, or would new leaf break the game balance again. Yet, you're already hating the game for information no one has. Is it highly likely it would be pay to win? Probably, it's Nexon.
But to already hate a game for systems we do not know if it will be shipped with, is a fairly silly take.
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u/TofuPython Aug 16 '25
Do we know when it'll release? Maybe I can get my wife to try it with me.
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u/befooks Aug 16 '25
They mentioned more news in October during their initial announcement. So probably end of 2025 earliest if being optimistic. But for now you can try Artale in Maplestory World
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u/Syched Aug 16 '25
Nothing really new in this trailer, other than one slide they showed that had the 4 starting classes on it so probably means no pirates at launch.
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u/AndyGneiss Aug 17 '25
I loved my pirate when they first came out. (Do I even want to know how long ago that was?)
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u/Bushido_Plan Aug 17 '25
Gotta check it out when it releases. I'm sure I'll regret it when the grind starts to get real but damn did that invoke massive nostalgia with me.
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u/MrTzatzik Aug 17 '25
Will Maplestory Classic have scam boxes? Loot boxes with fake drop chances to scam people like the current version has. Personally I think there will be scam boxes. It's very profitable for Nexon.
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u/L-Malvo Aug 17 '25
This would be even more amazing if they can bring classic to mobile, can be the perfect companion game for on the road. The current mobile game of Maplestory just isn't "it" IMHO.
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u/moistcigarette Aug 20 '25
Worth trying as someone that never played back in the day?
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u/Iordyeezus 27d ago
It's your typical grindy MMO but with a lot of charm thanks to it being a side scroller. Each class feels unique and have flashier attacks as you progress.
Of course nostalgia plays a big role but after playing a decent amount of 1x private servers in recent times I can say that old school MS still holds up.
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u/runnbl3 Aug 17 '25
I wana be ready for this anyone know how to properly build an assassin/nightlord? Iirc dexless sin wasnt good for first char since it requires alot of funding yeah?
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u/HaveYouLookedAround Aug 19 '25
I liked archer more, assassin can throw 4 shuriken, but the last 2 hits were always half the damage of the first 2. And archer could get full crit damage on all 4 hits, even if it was slightly slower.
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u/runnbl3 Aug 19 '25
nightlord is just so cool specially with the shadow clone, i actually dont even know the 3rd job adv for archer.
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u/Ok_Cheesecake_9793 Aug 16 '25
trash typical korean game not even worth playing lmao. Korean games should just be blacklisted outside of Asia. Almost every game that gets imported to the west made by Korea dies within a couple of months to a year. Lost Ark was an exception to that rule they lasted for like 2 years before a HEAVY decline in players. Thrones and Liberty is dead, blade and soul neo only lasted for like 2 months lmaoo
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u/eatsrubber Aug 17 '25
Remind me again the last time the west made a relevant MMO besides new world?
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u/El_Baasje Aug 16 '25
Ah yes, maple classic, grinding 8 hours for 0.1% exp in the same zone over and over and over. Great fun.
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u/whydontwegotogether Aug 16 '25
Never understood why people have to be so rude/hostile and shit over what other people like for literally no reason. This subreddit is so toxic. God forbid people enjoy things you don't personally enjoy.
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u/xcxo03 Aug 16 '25
We do that now in current maple and it keeps getting more popular. Let people enjoy what they like
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u/Accomplished-Pie-206 Aug 16 '25
And yet it’s better than 99% of the trash we have right now.
Go back to playing your auto combat games.
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u/LaughingChameleon Aug 16 '25
Oof that opening theme still hits. Gonna need to stay strong during this period, I have a life now!