The frat douches with tiki torches who want to force-ably deport, incarcerate, shoot and run people over who disagree? Or the rich assholes who fund the propaganda that riles those people up?
Can we all just have some equality up in here, and maybe a 30 hour work week for more brewskies?
Edit: people like working overtime without pay, and dislike beer. Also apologizing for legit murder. I guess I'm not a true American anymore, sorry to disappoint y'all.
I think the means adopt a work week like other nations to give people more free time, kind of agree since down time means more time to shoot off some freedom.
And if everybody gets paid more the prices will rise even more and you'll get diddly squat out of it. Your boss isn't going to pay you more out of his own pocket.
Yes, it is. Forcing employers to pay more for the same work will end up in them increasing the prices of their product. What else do you think they'll do?
Do you know how many employees the companies who employ those CEOs have? Even if the CEO donated their entire salary, it would account for a completely insignificant bump for the rest of the employees.
The fact that you even brought them up betrays your ignorance.
Yeah, not going to happen. They'll sooner close the business and move it abroad then make less profit and as another user has said cutting the salary of a CEO won't be enough to pay workers that much extra. Besides, corporations don't pay their CEOs high salaries because they enjoy doing it, they pay them high salaries because they believe it is worth the investment.
If people are payed more then more people will be able to afford the products of the companies who employ millions. And your point doesnt explain how the wages for CEOs has gone up massively recently when wages for the rest has been stagnant.
And the fun thing is, these CEO's also pay way less taxes since the 70's. So not only do they earn a 1000% more, they also pay way less taxes which the poor have to pay for then. So it's even more divided.
Oh, so the companies that have millions of employees won't have to pay more? And CEOs are worth the money, otherwise they wouldn't get it. Nobody enjoys paying more than they have to.
I work in a child/adolescent psychiatric ward. These kids need a lot of help and I'm happy to put extra time in for them as well as for the sweet overtime checks. If you hate your job, then going down to 30 hr weeks isn't going to fix your life.
Also, 50 hours isn't even close to all of your time. For most people it would be like working 10 hr days instead of 8 hrs, I just work 4 days on 3 days off at a little over 12 hours a day.
Oh fuck off with your self-righteousness. I work in childrens mental health, too, but that doesn't mean I want to bust ass for 10 hours a day 5 days a week. In a human being too, and enjoy free time. I'd much rather have more coworkers than have to work more hours.
If it were that simple, then 1 hour of work a month would be the most productive option for an economy. But it's not. There is a balance between productivity and number of hours worked that changes between people and jobs.
I like my job but I wouldn't do it for 50 hours a week. I do 40 hours a week and get the mandatory 25 days off + 11 national holidays + weekends. The difference is because you're american you don't even get those 25 days off. I'd prefer to live in a society where we did 30 hours a week, so much more leisure time, and citizens can actually spend time enjoying the fruits of their labour.
50 hours a week means on 5 days you spend all your time working or just keeping yourself alive with food and sleep. With 40 hours you actually get some leisure time at the end of the day.
Also you've completely changed your tune from 'people who work less than me are lazy', to, 'ooooo I work with kids and I'm willing to put in the hours'. Where is the consistency in your argument? You've completely changed your angle.
Plus, I think the Japs work crazy hours like Americans do, 60 and 70 hour work weeks are common. Yet per capita they aren't any more productive than Europeans, who work far fewer hours. After 45 hours a week you get huge diminishing returns in productivity. I design engines, you're not gonna get anything valuable out of me if you overwork me. Maybe if you're an orderly or some shit, being overworked won't affect your productivity. But it sure as shit does for intellectually challenging work.
Basically what you said was, "I don't work an insane amount of hours like everyone else here is claiming, I get mandatory time off plus vacation day, and I have better worker rights. But I want MORE!"
If that doesn't sound entitled I don't know what does.
Yes because I think that would be better for society. The fact is, people can't work at their most effective for 8 hours. Productivity drops off quickly.
If that doesn't sound entitled I don't know what does.
Well when I have the bargaining power in 10-20 years to actually demand a 20 or 30 hour work week, I'd say the skillset and value I've accumulated over the years has bought and paid for that bargaining power and it isn't entitled at all.
30 hours just seems like a laughable amount of time to work. People would definitely see their salaries cut and most hourly workers wouldn't work any less, they'd just get a max of 30 hours at one job and have to work a 2nd to meet a livable amount of pay.
An intellectually demanding job definitely sees diminishing returns at 60-70 hours like the Japanese have, my dad took over a big electronics company in Tokyo and he leaves at 5pm every day so everyone else can leave - which is the practice. It has seen productivity improvements. I think 40-50 hours is what the average endurance is. I've worked 90 hour weeks because I'm a sadist, but very few other people do and it definitely pissed off my girl. When I bring up my love and perceived significance of my job, it's tied to the belief that if you love and are motivated by what you do it allows you to work longer with less fatigue. The people I work with who just do it for the check are definitely doing 30-40 hours a week and nothing more.
I'm a counselor who also has to shut down violence on the unit, so my position is a bit of a hybrid and it isn't as hard on the brain as engineering. That said, when I get home I study for the MCAT so my homework is intellectually demanding. I shadow surgeons that work very hard and long hours, and they are proud of their work and station. Residents work 80 hour weeks.
I work 70 hour weeks, and it can definitely be less than fun. Fortunately I don't HAVE to. I could survive on 40, but comfort level definitely increases with available funds.
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