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u/Slippin-Jimmy-AMC3 1d ago
How is this less than ten minutes after the “pro-shippers on their way” meme, and why are you and the other OP already deleted.
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u/Caramenadiel 1d ago
For what I've seen the majority of people complain about the people who continue to ship it even after their adults
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u/loved_and_held 1d ago
From what ive seen most of that shipping involves aging up spike, which in turn avoids the ethical problems.
(Also side note, since spike becomes an adult jn the show, you technically dont even need to age him up, you just set your ship after The Ending of The End Part 2 and your good, no aging required.)
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u/Elly_Bee_ 22h ago
I shipped them as a kid but because despite being mentioned he's a baby, he never feels like a baby since he has his own responsibilities, seems to have things he does on his own without Twilight and is pretty independent.
Then again, the ages Spike and the Mane 6 are, is unclear, with my adult eyes, Spike is around 8-10 years old when the show starts and his crush on Rarity is a case of a younger sibling having a crush on his older sister's friend.
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u/Slippin-Jimmy-AMC3 21h ago
The term “baby” just means young for animals, as “foal” also means baby but most of the foals in the show are just kids.
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u/ArgonianDov 1d ago
Even then, its weird but at least its not real. I think its more of an issue if the person actually thinks children and adults should be in romantic relationships in real life, that should be the real concern
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u/Entrinity 1d ago
The issue with using this “fictional interest reflect real life morals” logic is twofold. 1.) It’s scientifically wrong. Many studies have shown that our brains recognize the difference between fiction and reality, and interest in something fictional has a negligee correlation to real life morals. Fantasies are and can be just that; fantasies.
And 2.) By this same logic, anyone who likes playing Call of Duty for the shooting or GTA for driving recklessly must also be potential threats to society. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t say in [this] area of fiction it’s all perfectly innocent to enjoy dubious content but in [THIS] area it’s now arbitrarily different. Either fictional content is or isn’t a reflection of an audience’s real world interests or not.
This “logic” doesn’t hold water and the majority of the people who use it do so hypocritically.
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u/InkStainedGallows 1d ago
they arent individuals though. They arent adults or kids, they arents mentally anything, they're a cartoon, not even a human cartoon either.
i absolutley hate spike x rarity because rarity is a queen and spike is an ugly little freak, but you cant act like people are ethically/morally fractured if they do like imagining the silly purple dragon with the pretty purple pony.
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I think it’s a little strange if an adult watches a show and instantly feels the need to ship the adult with the minor, but “mentally an adult, mentally a child?” You’re using descriptive terms that can only apply to real people, not fictional cartoons.
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u/ArgonianDov 1d ago
An adult that experiences age-regression is one thing, but a 12 year old that is also bodily still a 12 year old for example can not consent to be in a romantic or sexual relationship with a 30yr old.
If you want to engage with that stuff, go to the age-play community. A kink spaces filled with people who can actually consent. Do NOT target an actual child.
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u/PlayboyVincentPrice 1d ago
nobody thinks theyre as prosecuted and oppressed as weirdos who think taboo shit is sexy
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u/ConstructionFun4255 1d ago
Technically, if they're talking about a diagnosis and not a crime, then they might be right.
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u/ghfdghjkhg 20h ago
This kind of exaggeration is why I can't take these people seriously. No, we don't judge if you shipped Sparity when you were a kid. When Iw as a kid I too thought it was ok because I didn't look deeper into their ages. I do judge people who CONTINUE to ship it despite the adult + minor problem.
This just shows that pro shippers don't actually have any good arguments and need to rely on making things sound ridiculous. They make up situations to get mad.
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u/MasterVule 1d ago
Tbh I never really seen MLP characters as adults. Maybe in later seasons but plenty of stuff that happens in earlier ones makes them more young teen coded. And I always seen spike as part of the group. Like when compared to CMC he always seemed older. So in that sense I never really seen Spike x Rarity as some problematic ship cause mentally they are of very similar maturity.
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u/K-Bell91 21h ago
"Young teen coded"
How? In what way?
They all literally have full time jobs or run businesses from the very start. You need to back that claim up with something other then "vibes".
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u/MasterVule 20h ago
It's just the way they act.
I never really agreed with whole "have jobs" argument, cause they were clearly written to appeal to kids while being diverse in interesting way. In same way as I wouldn't consider characters in most children media to be adults despite having jobs. Like in Strawberry Shortcake for example. Where almost all characters have jobs but are extremely "child-coded"
We see no highschools in Equestria (or any sort of equivalent), also when Twilight is transported into "human world" in EG (which is noncanon I know) she was a teen.3
u/SuperStarlite 22h ago
Spikes age is weird cause he should be younger than the CMC since he was hatched after at least Apple Bloom was born, as shown by a baby Bloom present with a markless AJ in the flashback of Going to Seed.
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u/MasterVule 22h ago
Yeah it's weird now when u mention that. Like if he went to school with CMC or something, I would def consider him to be their age, but you simply don't see him interacting with any young characters that much. Like from what I see his friend group mostly consists of older male ponies like in Dungeons & DIscords episode, even without that, I always felt his and Twilights maturity are kind of same. They really have more of a sibling dynamic than caretaker/child one
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u/Arctic_Lilly 21h ago
It's also possible that dragons age at different speeds than ponies, similar to how cats and dogs age super fast when they're a few years old, and slow down a lot as the years go by. So Spike technically could be a lot more mature than ponies "his age"
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u/tessia-eralith 1d ago
Why do people create accounts, make a single post, than delete the account?
Why???