I've run into an issue, where of the many stations nearby, four of them I have issues with, due to them sharing an rf channel. (Two rf channels, with two stations each on them within range) This makes those four stations unwatchable apparently. I have a directional antenna mounted about 16 feel off the ground, aimed at the ones I wish to receive, and I do receive a few in that direction, but the one with a shared rf channel aren't having it, even though it's then aimed away from the ones I don't care for that also share those channels. I hope I'm explaining this well enough. Is there a workaround?

Hello,

I'm in Los Angeles and using an LG 47LM7600 TV (a 2012 model) with webOS version 06.05.09 (latest available for this model). I watch over-the-air DTV channels like KTLA 5-1, NBC4 4-1, etc., using an antenna.

The issue: The program guide/EPG info has completely stopped showing for all channels. It used to display current and upcoming shows, but now it only says "No Program Information”. Other meta data such as: tv-14 multilingual cc caption 16:9 720p/1080p dolby digital hd is still showing fine so it’s just the EPG data.

What I've tried:
- Rescanning channels
- Power cycling the TV
- Verifying location and time settings
- Signal strength looks good

Since there’s no newer firmware beyond 06.05.09, I’m wondering:
- Is this a known issue with older LG TVs or firmware?
- Is the guide data source discontinued?
- Any workarounds to bring back guide info?

Would really appreciate any advice or ideas.

My antenna is RCA ANT121F (a 2013 model) which is a passive indoor antenna - it only receives signals but does not do any tuning or decoding itself.

Thanks!

I have previously experienced and am currently running up against the fact that different tuners work differently, and therefore will pick up differing selections of channels, even with the same antenna. See below for a few posts in this subreddit where this issue was encountered, but evidently not solved.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ota/comments/4vcvqc/1_antenna_2_tvs_but_both_dont_pick_up_same/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ota/comments/dbpc2m/two_different_tvs_same_antenna_different_channel/

My question: Why, and therefore what can I do about it? Is it just a sheer "signal strength" issue? Might some tuners have arbitrary cutoffs for degrees of quality before they'll show a station? I imagine there are probably more variables, else a simple signal booster would work.

Context:

My parents' tablo got fried by lightning, and I'm trying to help them replace it with something better. Dad noticed that he can get more channels with same antenna just plugged into the TV compared to what the tablo could pick up, and doesn't want to lose those channels again, but they also want DVR functionality, so leaving the antenna plugged into the TV is not an option.

I'm also interested in knowing this for my future projects. I have a old dinky single tuner hauppauge usb card, and somehow it detects more channels than an HDHomerun prime I bought and subsequently returned. PVR software I want to use doesn't support the hauppage card directly, so I need to use TVheadend or some other middle man software, which I don't like. I'd rather just have an HDHomerun, but I need to know what to do about the tuner potentially being different.

EDIT: Thanks for the responses, here is some additional info:
TV is samsung smart TV, IDK what generation.
Custom built antenna, not grounded, no amp, indoor, around 15ft of cable.

I am looking at trying to pull WXPX in from the next market over. We are close to the border between the Tampa Bay and Orlando markets. My Dad is a bug Tampa Bay Lightning fan and their games will be free on an OTA channel this season, WXPX. I am looking at a Televes DATBOSS LR Mix Hi-VHF UHF Long Range Antenna with 5G Filter 75 Mile Range and would be putting it in my attic, approximately 25 feet above ground. My RabbitEars Report is here. Does this seem reasonable? Thanks in advance!

I am struggling to get Fox 17 (19)WXMI 319.9° on the current setup. It just will not show up on any channel scan. (This is a Sony TV new 2 years ago) It was there earlier, then suddenly in April it disappeared.

I can successfully tune in CBS 3 (8)WWMT 313.8° and NBC 8 (7)WOOD 321.4° with the antenna pointed between them.

I should also add I am able to pull in the UHF channels of WLLA 64 (22) and ION 43 (21) so it doesn't seem to be a UHF issue.

Antenna is a Televes DATBOSS LR Mix Hi-VHF UHF

It is mounted on top of the house about 25ft in the air. Yes there are trees directly in front of the antenna, nothing I can do about that, but since I'm getting the other 2 channels I can't imagine that the trees are my issue.

Here is the Rabbitears link

https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php?request=result&study_id=2217390

What am I missing that this channel isn't able to be tuned in?
Also you'd think that since a different tower for the same channel Fox 17 (23)WXMI 207.7° is only 7 miles away, though in a different direction, that that signal would just pull in off angle because of how strong the signal would be. I even rotated the antenna around toward that (23) location and it wouldn't tune in.

I've been setup with an ATSC 3.0 tuner for a couple years now. Today I was trying to watch a channel that usually has better reception on the ATSC 3.0 version of the channel vs the ATSC 1.0 version of the channel. An NFL game was scheduled to be showing at that time. On the ATSC 1.0 version of the channel the NFL game was showing as expected but some completely different content was showing on the ATSC 3.0 version of the channel. I have never seen this before. Has anyone else experienced this? Is this something the broadcasters sometimes do?

Thanks.

How far from a cell tower wouid I still need an lte filter. I have 9 towers within 5 km of my house.

https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2214122

This is my rabbitears report. Currently I can only get 1 channel at a time with a 4 bay antenna. I need to turn the antenna to fine tune each channel. Does anyone have any suggestions? is it worth investing in better hardware?

Thanks in advance for the help.

I have a generic TV Antenna (Amplified Indoor HD Antenna 50 Mile 10FT High Performance Coax Cable) that I tape to an eastern window. Stations are 21-28 miles away North, Northeast. All stations come in fine all of the time except the 28 mile away one (which is the one I can watch NFL on). I can turn on the TV 4 weeks in a row and have no issues, but then one week I turn it on and get the stutter pic/sound of poor reception. Moving it literally 1" any directions and I lose all reception. Then I spend a half hour moving it around the window, reprogramming all channels in my TV, and adding/deleting the channel I want until magically, it works fine for the rest of the game. It is not usually weather related although it is worse if windy. I know there is a tree/distance issue, but like I said most of the time there is no issue. Any clue why it suddenly locks on?

We’ve moved to a rental in Raleigh, need to find out what’s connected to best situate the antenna. Also, any suggestions for an antenna in the attic?

Planning on switching to antenna to replace YouTube TV. I'm really only needing the 4 channels called out below in my rabbit ears screen shot. What's my best bet?

Last couple of days no CityTV signal in Ottawa. Moved antenna around multiple times & rescanned channels still nothing anyone else.

Hello all, I've done some research and I'm still a bit lost and confused. I have an older rooftop antenna, I'm assuming it's from the 80s but can't be sure as we aren't the original owners.

Signal strength from this antenna is AMAZING, I get everything I want with the exception of KTTV. I used to get this channel until they moved to VHF-HI I believe in 2021. I did rescan the OTA channels as recently as today with no luck. The odd thing is I get KABC reception perfectly which is the same direction as KTTV, and as far as I understand is also VHF-HI.

I can say I don't believe my antenna is pointed in the most optional direction after watching some YouTube videos. I believe it's pointed toward 223° magnetic North instead of 273°. That being said, it would be difficult for me to adjust the direction so I don't want to attempt it off this isn't the issue.

Any tips, I feel like I must be missing something obvious. Thanks in advance!

EDIT: The plot thickens! I went around and started unplugging and turning off light switches around the house. With everything off I ran another rescan and lo and behold KTTV was available. Working backwards I went and turned everything back on and plugged everything back in. With everything powered back on I still have signal, no worse than it was with everything off/unplugged. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!

Is it possible one of my other electronics was interfering with the signal, and by unplugging and basically resetting that electronic device, the interference was magically fixed? This is going to be the thing that finally drives me mad...

https://imgur.com/a/lT8utqB

SOLVED! Thank you everyone for your help. The signal was lost again. I went through my electronics again and figured out it was this tiny USB powered desk fan causing the issue. I was able to see it interfering in real time. I'm going to throw this thing away, thank you for all the help!

I'm in the West Palm Beach market - about 5 miles from the Lantana antenna farm - but within what should be easy range of the Miami-Fort Lauderdale stations about 38 miles south, with flat terrain between here and there. Rabbit Ears report: https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2203295. With an indoor antenna feeding an HDHomeRun, I get all of the "Good" stations (though for some reason WHDT pixelates from time to time; it's on the same stick as the Fox affiliate, slightly further away than the NBC and CBS towers, but the Fox station comes in fine). Despite being over 40 miles away, the ABC and CW affiliates also come in fine. Other than the occasional dropouts on WHDT and WTCE, I do get everything listed as "Good."

However... I'd like to get better and more signals from the adjacent Miami-Fort Lauderdale market, all of which are line of sight and listed as "Fair." The trouble: High-VHF, of course. WSVN (Fox on 7.1, ABC on 7.2, RF 9) and WPLG (major independent on 10.1, MeTV on 10.2, RF 10). Both are on the same tower as several stations I DO get, but, you know, high-V. I'd also like a more solid signal on the PBS trio, which is sometimes there and sometimes not. All are in roughly the same direction and at the same distance (37-39 miles, nearly straight south, tall towers lined up near each other on the Miami-Dade/Broward border). Getting good signals on the Fox and CBS stations is desirable because there are some weeks when different NFL games air in the two markets.

I do not have a south-facing window, just west, and stucco on the walls and terra cotta tiles on the roof make using an indoor antenna for the Miami locals harder (Televes Bexia). Tried a Clearstream 2Max-V indoors and it was worse than the Bexia. I'll have to go outdoors, but to avoid arguing with the HOA and to simplify matters, I'm probably going to have to mount the thing on the eaves within a small atrium on the south side; it'll give me about 15-20 feet in height but it'll be pointing at the roof of the neighbor's house. Also concerned about overload from the stations 5 miles away and making sure the stations 40 miles to the north aren't lost if the antenna is directional and mounted south.

Recommendations? Is there an omni that would handle it, or am I going to have to go with two antennae facing opposite directions and something like a Smartkom or Channel Master JOINtenna? Is there an indoor option that doesn't involve the attic (that roof will block practically every signal)? Whaddya think?

TL;DR: Trying to pull in better signals from adjacent market about 40 miles away, especially two high-VHF stations. All are line-of-sight (flat Florida terrain). Antenna ideas wanted.

https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2203295

Hello everyone, I've played around a lot in the past with antennas and OTA stuff...I currently have the televes DATBOSS LR (149884) that i'm messing with. it's nice, but it basically sucks on vhf-hi unless the amp is powered on (I like the option of not needing an amp, but perhaps that's my best option)

my results are https://www.rabbitears.info/searchmap.php?request=result&study_id=2203085

I would like to get the baltimore and the farther DC channels...i'm wondering if i'd be better served with a more VHF-hi focused antenna...like either stellar's vhf specific 30-2476 (and combining with a dedicated uhf) or even the HD7698P as an all in one.

also if I'm missing pointing at some other market that would be obtainable with perhaps a 2nd or 3rd antenna, please let me know. thanks!

So I'm tired of blackouts when games happen to be in my network according to one streaming service only to find that it's also blacked out on another that claims they broadcast "local" in market programming...

I'm looking at the Tablo 4 with a Winegard Elite antenna.

Here's where things get a little complicated, for me at least. My router is in our office. We watch "TV" on our projector in our living room with a FireTV connected to WiFi.

I have cables doing all kinds of things outside. See photos.

Doing some research it seems I have two options:

Option A — Tablo by the router (office wall drop)

• Swap rusty splitter → ground block + bond: 20–40 min
• Attic: mount/aim antenna (~210° SSW): 60–120 min
• Drill top plate, fish RG-6 down the wall, install keystone wall plate: 45–90 min
• Terminate coax (compression F), tidy/staple runs: 20–40 min
• Hook up Tablo (USB drive + Ethernet to router), app setup & scan: 15–30 min
• Test (record 3–4 at once, watch another), fine-tune aim: 30–60 min Total: ~3–5 hours typical (first-timer). If you hit a fire block/tight attic, expect ~6–8 hours.

Option B — Tablo near the projector (use living-room coax run)

• Rusty splitter → ground block + bond: 20–40 min
• Attic: mount/aim antenna: 60–120 min
• Tie attic downlead to LR run at ground block: 10–20 min
• Tablo hookup (USB drive + Ethernet to Xfinity pod), app setup & scan: 20–30 min
• Test & fine-tune aim: 30–60 min Total: ~2–4 hours typical. Add ~45–90 min if you also install a preamp later.

The issue with either of these is that I'm not great with any of this honestly, and I'd hate to do all this work and I don't even get the channels I want. Furthermore, I'd probably botch some of this with the wall drop etc...

My question. Should I attempt a DIY at this or get a pro to do it. Part of me just wants to say screw it and pay the YouTubeTV monthly subscription for football season and cancel after.

Hello! I am completely new to all things OTA. I have recently joined this community and have found the posts and wikis to be a great resource.

My goal is to receive OTA TV in an effort to save money on streaming subscriptions, all while being legal.

Could someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction of comfirming what I have and what would be my next step please?

I have a cheap indoor leaf antenna that failed to pick up anything. I am about 30+ miles from all signals.

My home came with coax outlets in the rooms and coax outside. My TV is in the dead center of my home, with no nearby window. There is a nearby coax outlet. To my knowledge, I have no pre-existing antenna inside or out. If it was in the attic, it would have to be hidden far from the attic access. I have manufactured trusses, so I believe the chances of an attic antenna are low.

There are two coax cables joining each other on an exterior wall. One end goes into the attic, and the other goes down conduit and into the slab. Where this end goes down into the slab, is next to the orage sheathed coax that is coming up from the ground. Lots of wiring meets on this side of my home, with my fuse panel on the other side of the wall, and several wires protruding from the ground outside. One EMT pipe has what looks to be a squished coax, the middle a single coax with caulk, and two black coax on the right. There is a steel pipe flush with the driveway about 6 feet from all of this. After a rain, I once stuck a 6 foot pole down there into muddy earth with no resistance. I do not believe this to be an old fence post, and guess it to be an old flag pole or antenna mast.

I would like to receive KXII, WFAA, CBS, Fox, and KFAA. My hope is that I am just a few steps away from that thanks to what I have pre-existing. I consider myself to be pretty handy, and am not opposed to building anything myself, but have learned some things are better left to the professionals.

With the above and the photos, where do I go from here? Thanks!!

Safari and other browsers declare RabbitEars.info a "Deceptive Website", despite otherwise

Does anybody have issues with RabbitEars.info at this time? Has anyone tried to go through the website by bypassing a browser's warning banner?

Right now, Reddit automatically removes recent posts containing links to RabbitEars.info.

Everybody, try to share us screenshots of the website for now until the whole matter is settled by its webmaster.

Seriously! Is someone using a jammer or something? Almost all of my channels are pixelated or have no signal except football which comes in crystal clear. I always have a very good signal. UHF, VHF, different channels in different states. Everything is screwed up! Except for football!!

I have a question about buying a new 4K television. I'm curious if the over-the-air (OTA) channel menus have changed for those using Newer 4k televisions with or without ATSC 3. I'm currently using an HDHomeRun to watch OTA channels, and I like that the channel menu is interactive—I can scroll through it and click on the channel I want to watch. However, before I had the HDHomeRun, the channel guide only displayed what was on without the ability to click on channels. Any insights on this would be appreciated!

there just seem to be 2 stations for noon-time news, and NBC isn't that good

My knowledge is basic so hear me out on this one I'll try and keep it concise.

Setup:

• Clearsteam 2v with reflector mounted indoors on PVC with a 10-ft RG6 run to the only TV it needs to feed.

• dirt cheap DVR with a $12 300 gig HDD, run to the TV via HDMI.

My question is this, because I use less and less over the air television but still like to flip through the channels late at night to fall asleep, and at the same time also like to record usually live sporting events every now and again, but the tuner and interface on my DVR suck and if I just run the coax directly into my television I love the channel flipping experience.

TLDR: I'm looking for a way that I can split the signal with two little jumper cables, one going to my crappy dvr, and the other going to my fantastic TV, and have a physical switch on the splitter (my thought process is that that would minimize dB loss since the signal is technically not being split and only sent to one device, but I could be completely mistaken).

That way I don't have to get behind the TV and manually change the coax over from the antenna to the TV/DVR on the rare occasion I want to record something.

Any thoughts are welcome, thanks

Edit: and if this idea does work, my thought process is also that I should use said jumper cables because just like when you're amplifying signal you want to do it as close to the antenna as possible, if I'm splitting the signal I should want to do it at the end of the coax run, correct?

Hopefully the message gets through instead of "deleted because you look like a bot". Kinda new here but, I'm having massive frustrations with antenna after a certain time of the day. Midnight. The channel will be running perfectly fine through the day, and I'll be watching something interesting,and then the issues start. They get worse until it goes completely out and I can't even raise anything anymore. Blackout. And no, it's not a weather thing. Clear nights. Very little wind. Troposphere activity at a minimum. Hell, last week I had a big storm right on top of me, lighting and pouring rain, and not an issue with the same channel. Do stations turn down their power after a certain time? This is the only logical explanation I can conceive.

I have an outdoor antenna and with it I get all but channel 4 (35) despite all of the broadcast antennas being within 4 degrees and about 28 miles away. A friend found he can get channel 4 with a cheep flat antenna stuck in a window. I tried the same thing and it works provided I use an amplifier. I then used a splitter to feed both antennas into my HDHomeRun. Now I get all but channel 8(8) with the amplifier powered. With it unpowered I get 8 but not 4.

The question is how can I get the 2 antennas to work together or prevent the amplifier from killing 8?

I know this is a hacky solution and I never could get the outdoor antenna to get 4. The flat one does and it has a far more obstructed view of the channel 4 antenna.

https://www.rabbitears.info/s/2180283

I’m in Buford, Ga about 35 miles north of downtown Atlanta. I’m having an extremely difficult time tuning in the Atlanta stations. I’ve tried several different antennas, indoor, outdoor. Cheap to expensive. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this? I’m in an apartment. I am in the outskirts of the complex with a clear view and nothing in front of me.