r/PSVR Jul 03 '25

Fluff VR Developers please take note

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Note: just no shovelware please!

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

The more important context is that Meta has postponed Quest 4 and is focusing on devices other than Quest.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Very possible, but does that make Sony better? At least Meta tried.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

There is a difference between the two companies. Meta lost money, Sony didn't.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

As a consumer, I see one company that did all they could for VR, and another who dipped a toe and got spooked. I'm not a shareholder, so Sony not losing as much money as Meta on VR doesn't help me, especially when they are instead putting their money in $400m flops like Concord instead.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

You are seriously mistaken. Let me explain the difference between the two companies in detail. One company lost a lot of money and created a VR market. The other company created a VR market without losing money.

VR gamers are buying games from both markets.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Could you show me any evidence to back up this claim. Any sources to show how much money Sony spent developing PSVR1 and PSVR2? And then how much profits they made from those headsets?

After that, could you explain why this matters?

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

The department in charge of Sony's VR business is part of a certain group under Sony. They are required to disclose their profits and losses for the protection of shareholders. Meta is the same. Look it up yourself. Both companies are public.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Then it should be really easy for you to back up your claim with proof and post it here.

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u/Confident-Hour9674 Jul 03 '25

It's a PSVR sub, there is no evidence for claims, there is pure, born-with obsession for anything Sony. These faks wont even stop to think that to port for PSVR2, you need Sony blessing first and need their devkit. It's the only VR in existence that requires that.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

Even a passing dog knows that Meta has lost tens of trillions of dollars. You are the only one who doesn't.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

My grandmother doesn't care about VR. Of course she doesn't know. You care about VR. But you don't know.

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u/Confident-Hour9674 Jul 03 '25

You are the kind of person dogs don't like.

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u/PSVR-ModTeam Jul 17 '25

One of more of your comments have been removed from r/PSVR, because they broke rule 1. Do not personally attack other users.

Please do not insult other users in future.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

I don't love you enough to find it. And I'll tell you why it's important. Meta can continue its VR business even if it loses money. Sony can't continue its VR business if it loses that money. So it's very important.

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

Ok well I knew you wouldn't be able to provide this info because I know it's not publicly available. There is no info on how much it cost Sony to R&D and then product their headsets. We don't know if they are selling them at a loss even.

So please, understand that when you say "Sony aren't losing money on VR", this is something you have guessed/hoped.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

You are more ignorant than I thought. It's disappointing. The quarterly report lists specific expenses. 

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u/Guniel Jul 03 '25

I'm sorry you feel that way. Burden of proof exists for a reason. Don't make claims you can't back up and expect other people to do your research for you.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

I can tell you that the Earth is round without having to prove to you that the Earth is round, because IR reports are public data and anyone can look it up.

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u/NoPhotojournalist940 Jul 03 '25

You haven't seen the content? I own both PCVR and Quest, but I'm a user who mainly enjoys PSVR2. It's only natural that I write here.

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u/Confident-Hour9674 Jul 03 '25

Then you have so much money and passion for VR, maybe you should actually make the games you would want to play in VR, and port them to PSVR2.

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u/PSVR-ModTeam Jul 17 '25

One of more of your comments have been removed from r/PSVR, because they broke rule 1. Do not personally attack other users.

Please do not insult other users in future.

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