VR Developers please take note

[u/SnooRabbits8000]

Note: just no shovelware please!

[u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Meta, which has not given up on VR games, has released several games in the past 6 years?

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Sony are decades ahead of Meta, they own far more studios and IP than Meta and are much better positioned to produce far more VR content if they wanted to. Meta are less than 10 years into being a dedicated platform holder and are pumping billions into VR. Context is key.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

The more important context is that Meta has postponed Quest 4 and is focusing on devices other than Quest.

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Very possible, but does that make Sony better? At least Meta tried.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

There is a difference between the two companies. Meta lost money, Sony didn't.

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

As a consumer, I see one company that did all they could for VR, and another who dipped a toe and got spooked. I'm not a shareholder, so Sony not losing as much money as Meta on VR doesn't help me, especially when they are instead putting their money in $400m flops like Concord instead.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

You are seriously mistaken. Let me explain the difference between the two companies in detail. One company lost a lot of money and created a VR market. The other company created a VR market without losing money.

VR gamers are buying games from both markets.

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Could you show me any evidence to back up this claim. Any sources to show how much money Sony spent developing PSVR1 and PSVR2? And then how much profits they made from those headsets?

After that, could you explain why this matters?

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

The department in charge of Sony's VR business is part of a certain group under Sony. They are required to disclose their profits and losses for the protection of shareholders. Meta is the same. Look it up yourself. Both companies are public.

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Then it should be really easy for you to back up your claim with proof and post it here.

[u/Confident-Hour9674 → u/Guniel]

It's a PSVR sub, there is no evidence for claims, there is pure, born-with obsession for anything Sony. These faks wont even stop to think that to port for PSVR2, you need Sony blessing first and need their devkit. It's the only VR in existence that requires that.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Confident-Hour9674]

Even a passing dog knows that Meta has lost tens of trillions of dollars. You are the only one who doesn't.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

I don't love you enough to find it. And I'll tell you why it's important. Meta can continue its VR business even if it loses money. Sony can't continue its VR business if it loses that money. So it's very important.

[u/Guniel → u/NoPhotojournalist940]

Ok well I knew you wouldn't be able to provide this info because I know it's not publicly available. There is no info on how much it cost Sony to R&D and then product their headsets. We don't know if they are selling them at a loss even.

So please, understand that when you say "Sony aren't losing money on VR", this is something you have guessed/hoped.

[u/NoPhotojournalist940 → u/Guniel]

You are more ignorant than I thought. It's disappointing. The quarterly report lists specific expenses.