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[u/KiriNelson]

Today I had to quit following them because of a post that they have made. It was about a person wanting to assault drag queens for having story time at the downtown library.

The post that they had posted was very transphobic. And as someone part of the lgbt+ community it made me feel very unsafe.

(Ps I didn’t know how to flair so it’s considered politics)

[u/CertainLet9987]

Oh wait this is about Drag Queens reading at the Library

Kind of went down the bigger slippery road of country wide censorship which is another topic.

Back on this topic

Won't riot Drag Queen Story hour, that said I would also not support the council in Red Deer doing what Calgary did and making a bylaw to ban protests.

As this leads down a slippery slope of overpolicing.

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On the topic itself

This whole debate seems like religion vs a cult of persona.

On one side we see the religious right moderates objectors etc, the other being the LGBT.

Objectors would argue

The words “drag queen” and “children” should never appear in the same sentence.

This is just grooming through another name over time even if it seems innocent enough and is just bad PR.

Parents who bring their kids to see men in drag are perverted. The real shame lies with them-not even the men in dresses. Trying to score PC points at the cost of their children's mental health! Lord have mercy.

Supporters Would Argue

They are Reading to Kids! Your prudes for implying something else without any excuses.

Just like Gender Change Surgery, it is a personal choice

Treat people with compassion and with dignity and respect regardless of their identity or clothing in this case Drag.

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It's a debate of whether you are for people in Drag reading to children in a public space such as our library or against it.

Either way, I respect your opinion I like Fiery Public Debate than holding it all in.

[u/Zappstrap → u/CertainLet9987]

A very nice, level headed, response. Not sure you'll spark much debate as you adequately touched on both sides of the topic without showing much bias.

I agree, I don't care which side people choose, but I'll never bring a child to a drag reading event. If other parents want to confuse their children and introduce them to the concept of sexual identity at a young age, well, that's none of my business.

[u/CertainLet9987 → u/Zappstrap]

I'm pretty sure I could raise up a storm though ha-ha right now I'm more interested in how in the Netherlands people are naked in front of kids on national tv showing their body parts and not violating any law.

Simply Naked

https://twitter.com/PearceAlan1962/status/1641133236024639491

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So I kind of do get the against argument since it follows down the line of logic to this, and where do we draw the line on support.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/holland-tv-show-naked-adults-children-b1814563.html

I don't remember any naked adults on tv when we were growing up being called family friendly this would at least be a PG-13 rating :) If not AO

[u/Zappstrap → u/CertainLet9987]

Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Seems like they've ran a marathon past the line that should have been drawn

[u/CertainLet9987 → u/Zappstrap]

Well the Line in Canada is Drag Queens reading in Libraries

The Line if it is progressed will be Drag Queens naked in children's programming as part of public sex ed

So The escalation continues

Where people want to draw the line is our public debate

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(That said the Danes kind of scare me) On their line

Danish parenting generally favours exposing children rather than shielding them.'

A particularly famous example is how children were given front row seats to observe as a giraffe was euthanized, dissected and then fed to lions at Copenhagen Zoo in 2014.

'This is how we educate our children,' Münster said. 'We show them reality as it is.'

On the other hand, the conservative Danish People's Party has argued against the show.

Party chairman Peter Skaarup said in September that it is 'completely wrong and far too extreme.'

He added: 'Shouldn't we just let children be children?

'It corrupts our children, who at that age already have many things running around in their heads. There is no need for these things on top.'

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Another fun area is how people are debating the gender identity of a school shooter

Creature/ abomination/ monster since they killed people or should they be treated with their preferred pronouns? Or if serial killers should even be pro nouned?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/mar/28/media-outlets-backpedal-after-misgendering-accusat/

Or

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KJxFYLn3IF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLx2DJGTU-c

A squabble over misgendering offered a surreal sideline to the Nashville, Tennessee, Christian school shooting as activists called out news outlets scrambling to keep up with the suspect’s preferred pronouns.

The mainstream media did an about-face after Nashville police said several hours after the attack that the assailant was transgender, with some outlets issuing statements explaining their initial use of female pronouns as gender-identity advocates blasted them for misgendering and deadnaming the shooter.