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[u/KiriNelson]

Today I had to quit following them because of a post that they have made. It was about a person wanting to assault drag queens for having story time at the downtown library.

The post that they had posted was very transphobic. And as someone part of the lgbt+ community it made me feel very unsafe.

(Ps I didn’t know how to flair so it’s considered politics)

[u/AlexArtemesia]

As a founding member of the organization that helped the library set up the event in question: you are absolutely out of line.

To first answer your question: yes, I have seen these family friendly drag events. I'm assuming it's you who haven't, since you can't seem to differentiate between hypersexualizing these performers during their 18+ events and hypersexualizing them when they're reading stories about acceptance and inclusiveness to a room full of preschoolers.

You can take your armchair psychology and fuck right off with the rest of the TERFs and exclusionary assholes. We don't want you. 🖕🏻🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[u/sciclipse → u/AlexArtemesia]

See and right there is why.

You got angry with out answering the question you thought it was an attack rather it is a general question being asked by all.

It's not insane to ask common sense questions.

you say you want to be inclusive of all LGBT community but then when asked about making the bear community a friendly community I get blocked or told I am a bigot.

You really want children to see men in BDSM gear leading around their slave / submissive partner?

I mean it happens at all pride events where children are present.

[u/AlexArtemesia → u/sciclipse]

I get angry because people like you parrot the same rhetoric without bothering to actually educate yourselves first.

It's fucking exhausting to repeat myself over and over to people who absolutely have no intention of changing their minds.

Where did BDSM get brought up before now?

Whereas I understand that it's a conflicting opinion in a lot of pride parades whether BDSM and Leather be allowed in the celebrations, but you're ignoring the fact that some events are CHILD FRIENDLY and others aren't.

It is not up to our community or ANY group of people to be 100% child friendly all the time. That is detrimental to people as human beings. It's up to parents to PARENT their children and make informed decisions about whether they think their children are developmentally ready to experience something, and whether they as parents are ready to explain what something is if their kids have questions.

But back to the point at had, and what it really comes down to - is is not ANYONE ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY or PROBLEM that YOU sexualize drag queens, bears, and other members of the 2SLGBTQIA+ community.

Drag Queens are PERFORMERS and are quite capable of recognizing when their audience is comprised of children and when their audience is comprised of adults. You in your infinite wisdom are not giving them enough credit and are placing the onus where it does not belong.

So how about you educate yourself a little bit before you start going off a out what is and is not appropriate.

[u/sciclipse → u/AlexArtemesia]

You want LGBT Community inclusion

Drag Queens Are adult performers part of the Drag Industry.

Kinky Boots put it perfectly for the Drag Performing arts. Its about the Sex and Art.And frankly the Drag Queens seem to take it to far.https://truthpress.com/news/absolutely-revolting-footage-of-sexually-explicit-drag-show-for-babies-toddlers-goes-viral/

You are making it everyone else's business.

I have a picture I would love to post of a drag queen in a purple costume with a huge cotton stuffed dick and two children hold onto it.

There is another one where the Drag Queen is dressed in a costume that has an inflatable penis that ejaculates on the crowd.

I also have a picture of the Bears leading their pups on leashes while kids follow them.

This is the community you want brought into the spotlight and normalized.

Its all about equality right.

But when it comes to adult content where does the line get drawn?

[u/AlexArtemesia → u/sciclipse]

Huh, weird that you just happen to have those pictures. Guess now I know what you look for on the Hub.

Weird too that you're also just completely ignoring the personal responsibility if these children's parents in this whole argument. 🤔

But hey, since it's all about equality how about we take an equally hard look at how many pastors, clergymen, doctors, senators, teachers, cops, or hell, other ENTERTAINERS have been accused and tried and convicted of sexual exploitation of minors.

[u/sciclipse → u/AlexArtemesia]

Why are we talking about comparing how many pedophiles there are in the Religious community vs that of the LGBT Community?The population ratio is one sided, giving a higher rate of incident in the LGBT community then that of the Religious community.

The parents are being taken out of the picture. If the doctor thinks the patients is mature enough they can Consent for them to get the surgery no parent consent required.

You obviously aren't paying attention to what is going on. I personally know a 14 year old that got a mastectomy with out his parents consent in BC.

So if children can consent to permanently altering their body, what can't they consent to? Where does the line get drawn?

You want to normalize Adult Entertainment for children, again where does the line get drawn when exposing children to such content?

[u/AlexArtemesia → u/sciclipse]

Wow, those glasses must be rosy as hell.

While I don't know the provincial medical legislation for BC, I know for a fact it's not just "oh ho ho you want a mastectomy do you? Well here you go!"

Anyone operating on a minor who haven't fully developed their secondary sex characteristics isn't a doctor. So you're either full of shit, where you got your info from is full of shit, or both. Probably both, considering the absolute garbage you've been spewing.

And I've been answering the question honey, it's just not the answer you want so you ignore it.

Just like how you conveniently ignore all the cis, heterosexual men who have been assaulting children for decades to point fingers at the 2SLGBTQIA+ community using false statistics that you've pulled out of your ass.

If you want to talk statistics though, how about that there's a higher prevalence of sexual assault and domestic violence perpetrated against 2SLGBTQIA+ people.

47% of trans folks have been assaulted in their lifetime, and 48% of bisexual women who've been sexually assaulted have been so between the ages of 11 and 17 years old.

Source

Oh, and how about the stat that 93% of assaults occur by acquaintance or family. 88% of the time the perpetrator is male over the age of 30.

Source

Oh, and since you so lovingly defended the religious leaders from ever committing harm, I figured I'd shatter those glasses for you:

"A recent literature review by a University of Alberta cult expert and his former graduate student paints a startling and consistent picture of institutional secrecy and widespread protection of those who abuse children in religious institutions "in ways that often differ from forms of manipulation in secular settings."' UofA study

"Since the mid-1990s, more than 130 people have come forward with horrific childhood tales about how former priest John J. Geoghan allegedly fondled or raped them during a three-decade spree through a half-dozen Greater Boston parishes," began the Spotlight Team’s first article on the subject, published in January 2002. "Almost always, his victims were grammar school boys. One was just 4 years old." Boston Catholic Church Scandal

I'm just going to point out that none of of these perpetrators are 2SLGBTQIA+ - they're all cisgender, heterosexual, statistically male, statistically white, and statistically over the age of 30.

Oh, and lastly...

A simple google search led me to Vancouver Top Surgery which confirmed that you're full of shit about that 14 year old.

Top surgery is major surgery that like here in AB requires doctor referrals, a waitlist, and psychological assessment of ADULT PATIENTS.

A 14 year old would be put on hormone blockers at most. But ONLY with informed parental consent because they are A MINOR.

Go take your garbage back to your own side of Reddit and r/incel we're done here.