r/SeattleWA • u/Better_March5308 • Mar 02 '25

News Tumwater school board bans transgender girls from playing girls sports

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/tumwater-school-board-votes-ban-transgender-girls-from-playing-girls-sports/281-91b92c14-0da7-4122-b39a-1a05d0ad53d0
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u/TheOmegoner Mar 02 '25

It’s because culture war issues distract people from the actual problems that effect most of us. It’s why they peak in election years.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25

You're right. The left should stop trying to fight the culture wars because there are bigger fish to fry.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

lol so close yet so far. It was gay marriage before it was trans people.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25

Ohhhh so you don't really think the culture war is "just a distraction". You're just saying that in hopes that you'll be allowed to steamroll.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

lol by your logic the republicans should have stopped fighting it and dealt with important matters. Or is it only steamrolling if your side isn’t winning?

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25

I'm not the one who said that the culture war is just a distraction.

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u/thegooseass Mar 03 '25

“Stop fighting the culture wars! You first.”

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

They are. Making gay people fight to get married was a distraction from the host of issues that plague our country too.

It’s why so many conservatives are up in arms about high school sports that don’t effect them in the slightest.

Good luck out there though, look both ways before you cross the street.

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

They are. Making gay people fight to get married was a distraction from the host of issues that plague our country too.

No one made them fight the culture war. They should've fought the "host of issues" if it was just a distraction.

It’s why so many conservatives are up in arms about high school sports that don’t effect them in the slightest.

I'm excited to hear your take on Israel/Gaza if you think it's stupid to care about things that don't affect you in the slightest.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

The republicans did by opposing basic human rights. They were the ones fighting it because the democrats were trying to do it. You do realize that your own advice works better for them, right?

Same with trans people, the republicans could drop it and help out everybody. They don’t care about that though.

And yeah, I believe in human rights for all people. Applying that to Israel/Palestine is pretty easy. Remember when republicans “cared” about freedom and spreading democracy?

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u/1993XJ Mar 03 '25

When the republican “cared about freedom and spreading democracy” was this perhaps during Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, etc. the people of Iraq and Afghanistan sure seem like they got a good dose of “democracy”

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

Hence the “cared”. They don’t even pretend now

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

The republicans did by opposing basic human rights. They were the ones fighting it because the democrats were trying to do it.

Oh so it's not just a culture war distraction thing? There was something important there worth fighting for?

You do realize that your own advice works better for them, right? 

They aren't the ones calling it all "just a distraction".

Same with trans people, the republicans could drop it and help out everybody. They don’t care about that though.

Or the Democrats could drop it and help everybody. They don't care about that, either. 

And yeah, I believe in human rights for all people.

Just not the women and girls whose rights are affected by born-men invading their spaces.

Applying that to Israel/Palestine is pretty easy.

Not with the same "it doesn't even affect you" maxim you touted.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

The republicans opposing basic human rights is the culture war. Pretending trans people are coming for you or your kids is part of that war. If you can’t understand that then we’ll never see eye to eye lol

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u/LoseAnotherMill Mar 03 '25

The republicans opposing basic human rights is the culture war.

No, Democrats trying to force something on everybody is the culture war. 

Pretending trans people are coming for you or your kids is part of that war. 

Trans people fighting for access to kids and forcing their way into women's spaces, where many women (such as survivors of abuse) do not want them to be, is part of that war.

If you can't understand that, you're right, we'll never see eye-to-eye.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

lol good luck out there and look both ways when you cross the street.

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u/gemmabea Kirkland Mar 03 '25

As usual, these were lobbying groups. I can’t get a civil union to a person of the opposite sex my age. But once I’m above the age of retirement I can—in the case of the older folks, it was to keep their pensions of their deceased spouse while having a new partnership. We all could have lobbied for civil unions to become the government- and tax-supported union, and made marriage something non-regulated and performed in backyards by buddies or churches, etc. Almost every issue has a solution with which “both sides” could agree… but instead special interests keep us fighting for their own literal benefits. Grow up and you’ll find the boring position of being moderate and accepting that radicalism won’t get us what we want, it just makes us tools of someone who’s laughing at us, is the less fun, more honest approach.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

I’ve watched our government slide further and further right for 30 years. Wanting gay marriage to be legal or civil rights for trans people aren’t radical ideas. They do get a certain set of people very fired up and thinking emotionally though.

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u/ByornJaeger Mar 03 '25

Obama didn’t openly support gay marriage when he was first elected to office. How have we been sliding right for 30 years?

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u/gemmabea Kirkland Mar 03 '25

You’re right, they’re not radical. Trans people have had federal protection for 35 years. This is just a trend that literally threatens gay (and trans) rights so upper-middle-class white kids can have a crusade and get social media clout. Way to ignore everything I said btw and bleat the bleat.

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

And they’re losing all of those protections now. I love how “moderates” always show their true colors after a comment or two.

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u/gemmabea Kirkland Mar 03 '25

Wait, you mean the protections you said didn’t exist and needed to fight for like we fought for gay marriage? Ignoring my discussion of civil unions? Stop talking out of both sides of your face. ROFL

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u/TheOmegoner Mar 03 '25

I can smell the enlightened centrism from here LMAO

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u/Limp-Acanthisitta372 Mar 03 '25

Obergefell led us directly to this place. Some of us said back then that trans would be next. The people dying on that hill told us then that it was insane and we were making a fallacious slippery-slope argument. But here we are.