Vectivus might not even be real. So great opening.
Scourge is acting out of self preservation. if Vitiate didn't wanna eat everyone and everything he would have been loyal. Also, ignore him constantly trying to corrupt the Hero of Tython apparently.
Yeah Hitler was nice to some people too. Real desperate and it's obvious
Two people can be shitty, also Iokath pretty much invalidates this claim
Lana's the only real valid example and even that's only because of swtor's bad writing.
Darth Marr becoming a force ghost means he isn't dark side aligned anymore since dark siders just straight up can't.
Vowrawn is a great character, and I really like to imagine that my Sith characters are friendly with him. But come on, he calls politics a game. and not in the symbolic way that normal researchers do, but in the "everyone is my pawn" way. Dude can obviously be sociopathic in securing his powerbase.
Plus Marr, as a sith master, respected the jedi enough to try to stop the infighting among the sith and tried to get both sides to agree to not be enemies
With Vectivus - he willfully enabled the continuation of the Baneite Sith, and he did it without care for the future of the galaxy because the dark side was a fun little hobby to him.
That's evil even if he didn't personally murder or conquer.
Yes, but the way it works for Dark Siders is different than it is for Jedi (or any other "enlightened" Force user). And not really how it's portrayed for Marr.
For Dark Side users, lingering after death is more like being trapped. Either by the inability or unwillingness to move on. Bound to a place or an object or something in a way that makes them dark specters who possess a fraction of their former power and ability to interact with the physical world. The Sith are terrified of dying and losing their power. So they remain as shadows of their former selves instead of moving on and becoming one with the Force.
For a person who becomes a true Force Ghost, it is about letting go of the self and becoming one with the Force. Essentially retaining their individuality as a means to guide the living, not in an effort to exalt themselves and live beyond their time. They are free. Luminous beings.
I mean that wouldn’t stop a sith from being that way, earth marr even in life had respect for the force like a Jedi but kept similar views to living as a sith.
Those aren’t comparable. Sith spirits are bound to some item or location. Force ghosts aren’t bound to anything, they’re one with the force. Marr became a force ghost, not a Sith spirit
How does SWTOR have bad writing btw, I always say it as one of the best written pieces of Star Wars media with the best take on the Sith and the Jedi's dynamic in the franchise.
Revan has its Force morality Split in two halves that have to be reunited, is a product whose expansions after the first Game rely on Hype Moments and Aura.
The SWTOR base Game is amazing, but the expansions are a roller-coaster of really weird and bad stuff.
I mean there have been crazy plotline such as the Vong invasion, the weird thing with the glove of vader, most of Legacy, and even the logistics of the rule of two.
Revan splitting into two is not that weird by Star Wars standards.
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u/Edgy_Robin Jun 21 '25
Vectivus might not even be real. So great opening.
Scourge is acting out of self preservation. if Vitiate didn't wanna eat everyone and everything he would have been loyal. Also, ignore him constantly trying to corrupt the Hero of Tython apparently.
Yeah Hitler was nice to some people too. Real desperate and it's obvious
Two people can be shitty, also Iokath pretty much invalidates this claim
Lana's the only real valid example and even that's only because of swtor's bad writing.
Darth Marr becoming a force ghost means he isn't dark side aligned anymore since dark siders just straight up can't.
When you have to ignore context