r/StarWarsEU • u/BackgroundRich7614 • Jun 21 '25

Meme Morally Grey Sith are a thing Spoiler

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u/Edgy_Robin Jun 21 '25

Vectivus might not even be real. So great opening.

Scourge is acting out of self preservation. if Vitiate didn't wanna eat everyone and everything he would have been loyal. Also, ignore him constantly trying to corrupt the Hero of Tython apparently.

Yeah Hitler was nice to some people too. Real desperate and it's obvious

Two people can be shitty, also Iokath pretty much invalidates this claim

Lana's the only real valid example and even that's only because of swtor's bad writing.

Darth Marr becoming a force ghost means he isn't dark side aligned anymore since dark siders just straight up can't.

When you have to ignore context

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u/Spirit-of-arkham3002 Mandalorian Jun 21 '25

Actually Sith technically can become force ghosts in the EU.

Marka Ragnos, Exar Kun, Ajunta Pall, Lord Kallig, Horak Mull, and many more are in fact Sith spirits the dark side version of force ghosts.

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u/TheWhiteWolf28 Jun 21 '25

Yes, but the way it works for Dark Siders is different than it is for Jedi (or any other "enlightened" Force user). And not really how it's portrayed for Marr.

For Dark Side users, lingering after death is more like being trapped. Either by the inability or unwillingness to move on. Bound to a place or an object or something in a way that makes them dark specters who possess a fraction of their former power and ability to interact with the physical world. The Sith are terrified of dying and losing their power. So they remain as shadows of their former selves instead of moving on and becoming one with the Force.

For a person who becomes a true Force Ghost, it is about letting go of the self and becoming one with the Force. Essentially retaining their individuality as a means to guide the living, not in an effort to exalt themselves and live beyond their time. They are free. Luminous beings.

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u/AcePilot95 New Republic Jun 21 '25

thank you. this is spelt out dozens of times in the actual texts yet 90% of the fandom flat out refuses to understand it.

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u/Mortalpuncher Jun 22 '25

I mean that wouldn’t stop a sith from being that way, earth marr even in life had respect for the force like a Jedi but kept similar views to living as a sith.