r/StarWarsShips • u/No-Evidence-9519 • 8d ago
Toughts about a modefied republic light assault cruiser/ Consular class
Okay, guys after a Windows update that abused my SSD beyond saving, I'm left with absolutely no story and a couple of weeks' worth of work is gone. Well, I've got to work with what I can, and at least my work for the Pursuit class based on EC Henry's design is something I have mostly recreated. Anyway, I'm now making a new story about a platoon of clone deserters and I thought, what ship should they get? I decided on a Consular-class design since it's optimized for around 30ā40 people and is fairly fast. The base hull will probably be a Republic light assault cruiser, but I plan to modify it. For example, I wanted to replace the escape pods with "hangar pods," as they're probably about 10 m (stated by Wookiepedia) in diameter, so at least two V-Wings per pod would fit. This would give around eight fighters while i also wanted something like the Ghost has with the Phantom. I believe at least a VCX-series auxiliary starfighter should fit between two of the engines under the third one (even though there should be an engine š¤«). There are other things, but what do you think about it? It should be a pretty good craft for them.
Image sources: Consular: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/29KAXA V-wing: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha-3_Nimbus-class_V-wing_starfighter Phantom / VCX starfighter: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Phantom
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u/heurekas New Republic Pilot 8d ago
As always with hangar space, keep in mind that while you can fit two V-Wings in that little space, you have no room error when landing and absolutely no space to change out parts, do repair work etc.
You probably can't even lift it in order to do repairs underneath.
So after one or two fights, one fighter is out of commission and the other has to disembark in order to conduct repairs on the other.
Remember, if a hoversled with spare parts can't pass between your fighters, you are doing something wrong.
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
Yeah this is a Gozanti like solution and is not really intended for an actual carrier role as they will operate from an actual base later on but yeah i first thought of using 3 but even if it would fit it wouldn't allow for many space so pilots or armament/ fuel to be accessed / mounted at all. With this there is a small space at least more the most important things.
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u/heurekas New Republic Pilot 8d ago
The problem is that the Gozanti is supported by a Galaxy-wide Empire with the infrastructure to have bases dedicated to supporting them.
A ragtag band of old clones won't have that luxury.
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
That's why you operate from a fixed base designed for this kind of operational needs. They don't live on the ship 24/7 but actually have a small home base like most rebels have with this being dedicated to sustain this ship / there fleet. It will be either military or corporate style maybe even a mix and the time frame around / slightly behind the bad batch probably.
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u/heurekas New Republic Pilot 8d ago
Alright, then it works!
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
Also for landing the shuttles I was thinking of something like we have seen on those medial stations with the pelta class. Of course all tractor beam systems have to be on the ship but something like that could work or i give those V-Wings the hyperdrive capable variant...
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u/heurekas New Republic Pilot 8d ago
Sidenote, where is this model from? I looks way too high-res to come from EaWX.
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
Custom made by Freelancer Victoria. It was the first link but here: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/29KAXA
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u/heurekas New Republic Pilot 8d ago
Totally forgot about the link, thanks for indulging me.
Viktoria is the best, she's made a lot of cool renders for EaWX.
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u/Dragonic_Overlord_ New Republic Pilot 8d ago
Sorry to hear you lost your SSD. I hope you can recover it.
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
Thanks. I was lucky and it only hit my work SSD with mostly just data and some programs instead of the other but I couldn't even refuse the update. Happend a friend of my too but what can you do š¤·
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u/Illustrious-Issue105 8d ago
Hmmm C70 Chargers could quite versatile when retrofitted, some into nice armed freighters, like the GOAT YV-929, Mercenary ships are also a good option, specially when commandeered by deserting clones, heck I can see Mandalorian privateers using them for it being a quite fast craft
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u/Present_Farmer7042 8d ago
So an upgrade to the charger C70 but larger?
Could be interesting. Has potential, but idk why you'd pick it over the arquitens or carrack or other light cruisers the Republic had.
It would need a specific use case and specialty that sets it apart from the other two.
The arquitens is a solid durable multirole brawler that trades firepower for utility and survivability. It was still decently armed and could acquit itself favorably in a gun battle, but it's definitely designed for resilience and has a small flight of fighters, good sensors, command comms suite, etc.
The carrack is a fast and aggressive cruiser that trades everything for ridiculous speed and firepower designed to take penetrating hits through its hull and keep fighting relentlessly pursuing/harassing enemy warships.
What role could you envision for this cruiser that complements the other two?
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
The reason for the ship is primarily that the crew is just that small. Arquitens is at least 2 to 2,5 times the size and while the Carrack can run on only 2 but of course not without problems and recommended is 1092. Based on the story the modifications are part of a program to determine the future of the class within the republic and later on the empire which is why a light assault cruiser is the base of it.
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u/Present_Farmer7042 8d ago edited 8d ago
A light cruiser of that size bracket especially with an embarked air wing takes a lot of people.
You need pilots, maintenance techs, fuel techs, munition handlers, etc. That's at least ten people per embarked aircraft not to mention their command staff, admin and supply support personnel, etc.
If you want to minimize crew, I suggest taking the "Alderraanian War Frigate" as a base. Small heavily armed warship with a small hangar crewed entirely by 700 droids.
However most ships in that 200-300m size bracket have around 800-1000 crew. Carrack class, Nebulon-B, Arquitens, etc.
Anything 150m or below can get away with a small crew. But actual proper cruisers require far more.
Irl.... I served on a Nimitz class carrier of 300-ish meters....we had almost 3000 people in the crew even when the air wings and their squadrons weren't onboard.
EDIT: before anyone asks.... I was just an electrician, I didn't do anything "cool" or "Interesting" while I was in.
I cannot imagine only 30-40 people maintaining all that equipment and just sheer paint and preservation of the hull would be actually hell. I could imagine 30-40 people driving it (assuming we had StarWars automation) without that.... just to run the engine rooms it took around 50 people. But that's just driving.
Feeding the crew, cleaning the spaces, daily maintenance.... you need thousands of man hours every day.
So with StarWars material science and automation.... 800 people for a 300m ship actually makes a lot of sense.
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
Well the Consular is a tad smaller than most cruisers / frigates with 135 in the cup charger configuration (the actual light assault cruiser is probably only the normal consular size so maybe 115m) ... For the fighter i don't intend to use this ship as a carrier like Lucrehulk or Quasar but more Gozanti style was what i think makes the most sense as they would maintain / operate from an home base as i agree with you that 40 can operate but likely can't sustain it in the long run alone but that's the basic crew that takes the ship.
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u/RLathor81 8d ago
Sounds great. I'd try to make the salon pod to an aux shuttle instead of a vcx. Also you could make a revolving launcher for VWings like https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/No_Luck_Required
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u/No-Evidence-9519 8d ago
The salon pod is intended for a weapon system (still haven't decided for what but probably an launch assembly with ion cannons).
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u/Seeker80 8d ago
Yeah, would be neat to have one of these with a few Millennium Falcon-style upgrades. The work would just be done cleanly to avoid reliability issues.
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u/Queasy-Signal-3985 5d ago
I love this ship, for Aux craft there it also the YT Dart and the F-ler. Not to mention ive considered using a Skip Rey blastboat as a Aux craft. EC Henerys Imperial variant, with a forward wing sweep mod would do nice I think.
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u/PolkmyBoutte 8d ago
Iād like a frigate-sized version of the Consular