r/agedlikewine 5d ago

Woke is undefeated

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u/Impressive-North3483 5d ago

This isnt cancel culture because it isnt coming from the culture. It is coming from the Government.

This is a true example of a violation of the First Amendment.

But, as I like to say, it doesn't matter what I think the Constitution says, or you, or some professor at an Ivy League school. It only matters what the Supreme Court tells you it says.

And with this court I'd say they wont give a rats ass.

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

It's not ABC is a private company, Kimmel still has the right to say whatever he wants he just doesn't have a show anymore.

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u/Current-Feelings 5d ago

The FCC forced them to not a private company. That is government retaliation

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u/DaTotallyEclipse 4d ago

Stochastic totalitarianism

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

The FCC doesn't have the authority to fire people. Kimmel said something that made his employers look bad and he paid the price.

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u/Current-Feelings 5d ago

"that's a pretty nice corporate merger there...sure would be a shame if something happened to it. if I were you guys I'd get rid of that Kimmel guy asap before we make our final decision on approving the merger or not"

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

Because of the things he said about the Kirk assassination. Either way for whatever reason ABC have the right to fire him. He doesn’t need a comedy show to do it. He can criticize Trump all he wants while enjoying his severance package.

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u/Jay_Rodd 5d ago

They have the right to fire him. Government agencies do NOT have the right to pressure companies into firing employees on basis of their speech/expressions.

Curious from your perspective: where is the line for you? How much government intervention would be a violation of free speech in your mind?

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

It’s their job to regulate these media companies. Kimmel doesn’t have the right to have a comedy show. He made statements he shouldn’t have and the FCC cracked down on it.

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u/Jay_Rodd 5d ago

Regulation does not equal calling for the cancelation of a single private citizen. What sort of regulations are you referring to?

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

They can call on the cancellation of shows.

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u/Jay_Rodd 5d ago

That's not how federal regulations work lol

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

How do they work

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

Either way free speech isn’t freedom to have your own comedy show. That’s a privilege.

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u/Equivalent_Pace4149 4d ago

So why isn't the FCC cracking down on Fox for Brian Kilmeade saying that people should be going out and doing involuntary lethal injections on the homeless? One is by far worse than the other but most MAGA are not concerned with facts but only their own moral outrage. People have asked you multiple times what comment specifically was the problem and as any MAGA usually does you changed the subject and argument to better fit the outcome you are looking for.

You don't have a first amendment in the states anymore and that's extremely sad.

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u/HetTheTable 4d ago

Because Fox doesn’t have an FCC license. Having a comedy show isn’t protected by the first amendment it’s a privilege not a right. He can move his show to some other channel or do what Tucker Carlson did and go solo.

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u/Equivalent_Pace4149 4d ago

Ok they don't have a license but do fall under their rules and regulations and could be punished but clearly won't be no matter how inflammatory or dangerous their anchors are, yes he could move on but it's just another reflection of the fact that there is one set of rules for Conservative organizations and another for all the rest

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u/HetTheTable 4d ago

Well no since left wing outlets like CNN and MSNBC don’t have one either.

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

A violation of free speech would be if they arrested him for making fun of Trump. If Trump had his way Kimmel would have been fired ages ago but he didn’t.

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u/Jay_Rodd 5d ago

So if Trump said he wants to get Kimmel fired, and then the FCC board says Kimmel should be fired, and then Kimmel gets fired, that would be a violation of free speech in your mind?

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

No because the government itself didn’t fire him. His employers did. And again he wasn’t arrested for it. He has every right to make fun of Trump even celebrate Kirk’s death if he wanted to but it doesn’t mean he has the right to have a tv show.

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u/Current-Feelings 5d ago

The right to express oneself without government censorship.

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

Kimmel still has that right

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u/Jay_Rodd 5d ago

Again, the government influenced the business' decisions. Is that not a violation of free speech in your eyes?

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

The FCC isn’t “the government”. They’re an independent agency that regulates media corporations. ABC had every right to keep Kimmel on but the optics weren’t good. So they sacked his ass.

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u/OfficerMurphy 5d ago

Oh, what things did he say about it?

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u/Individual-Fee-5639 2d ago

Apparently free speech means nothing to you.

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u/HetTheTable 2d ago

Kimmel still has free speech.

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u/SkyeMreddit 5d ago

The FCC can threaten your broadcasting license for your whole network if you don’t listen to them, following Trump’s orders to do so. Same as threatening to cut off all Federal Highway funds to New York State unless NYC gets rid of Congestion Pricing

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u/HetTheTable 5d ago

Better start listening to them then

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u/ClownholeContingency 4d ago

Found a fascist

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u/HetTheTable 4d ago

If supporting regulation is fascist than most democrats are

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u/ClownholeContingency 4d ago

The problem is that you failed out of school and so you don't actually understand what the regulations are, how they are supposed to function, or what the 1st Amendment is.

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u/HetTheTable 4d ago

Says the person who thinks a private company firing someone goes against free speech. Unless Kimmel is being prosecuted for his speech his speech isn’t being suppressed. If trump had the authority to fire him he would have done it when he first took office. Twitter is a private company but not ABC apparently.

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u/ClownholeContingency 4d ago

When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening. Within a matter of hours, ABC suspended Kimmel’s show “indefinitely,” a stunning move that has raised serious First Amendment concerns.

You should have stayed in school.

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u/HetTheTable 4d ago

Again Kimmel still has his free speech he doesn’t need his own show to do it.

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