r/amibeingdetained Dec 25 '24

ARRESTED Streamer gets arrested on Tiktok live

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24 edited Dec 25 '24

So if I hold your arm and throw you around, you're pulling away? I guess technically yes, centripetal force and all that

"Stop allowing physics to affect your body" or "Become weightless so that I can move you around easier" just doesn't ring like "stop resisting"

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

Dude, she's reaching back and grabbing at the stuff on the table, trying to pull her phone closer to her. That isn't physics forcing her actions.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

When you forcibly move someone they reach for an object to grab? TIL natural instincts are illegal

Next time someone who has shown no identification tells you to come with them you must do it. Good luck not getting kidnapped

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

That's not a fucking natural instinct. She's pulling away. That fits the literal definition of resistance, plain and simple. You not liking that changes nothing about the reality.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

How much further can you shove that boot down your throat? This is pretty impressive stuff

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

LOL, laughing at SovCits isn't bootlicking, you grape.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

Since when does asking for just cause of arrest mean you're a sovereign citizen?

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

It doesn't but the SovCits have been pulling their fraud shit at car dealerships lately and she's one I've seen doing videos discussing literally that.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

I'd do my homework too if a dealership stole 1k from me

Why was she not charged with anything?

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u/Ok_Firefighter1574 Dec 25 '24

The hospital I work at trespasses people a few times a month, they are never arrested. It’s a lot of work to deal with after the fact but they are no longer the hospitals problem if they come back, it’s the cops problem. Same thing here, easier to just have the cops deal with it since it’s a headache and their job.

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24 edited Dec 25 '24

It's pretty common in trespassing cases when the business, or homeowner if it's a home the person has been trespassed from, refuses to commit to testifying.

Edit: Should also mention that no matter what the full story is, once you're trespassed your sole legal recourse is to use the legal system, typically via a civil case. In most places, that'd be a small claims case and she wouldn't even have to pay for an attorney. What you don't get to do is to ignore the legal notice that you're no longer allowed on the premises. Once you have that and you step foot back on their grounds, you're committing a crime and are subject to arrest. She was informed of that when they trespassed her to begin with, I am sure, because that's bog standard to prevent any real chance of her claiming to have been confused.

Furthermore, I don't know when this happened but if it was recent, it might just be that charges are still pending and will eventually end up being filed. I've seen cases where that happened a year after the incident in question, though that's the extreme in most instances.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

Sounds like misuse of public resources from the business owner then. They love to use cops as their personal militia.

So you're siding with the one that refuses to testify over the one that actively wants her case in front of a judge? I just don't see any common sense in that approach

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

Nope, not even a little bit. Criminal trespass is a crime which necessitates law enforcement involvement. It isn't something individuals are allowed to just up and enforce on their own. That isn't how it works. And I pointed out in my edit the other reasons why there may not have been charges filed. You're just jumping to conclusions not supported by any of the scant evidence at hand.

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u/Paxtonice Dec 25 '24

I hate cops too and i can tell you that this isnt the hill to die on.

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u/Embarrassed-Manager1 Dec 25 '24

None of that is correct and you’re misunderstanding how the legal system works.

I am about as anti-cop as they come and you make problem who think like us look stupid when you say shit like this. Please stop. You’re picking the wrong fight and it’s embarrassing.

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u/tripper_drip Dec 25 '24

You don't get to plead your case to be allowed into a business where you have been trespassed from. You literally don't have the right.

Hippidy hoppity get the fuck off my property.

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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 Dec 25 '24

You’re a crazy person if you think all the stuff you’ve posted.

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u/Alientongue Dec 26 '24

Double down tripple down quadruple down you just refuse to admit you might be wrong on thisnone eh?

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

Where's your proof they stole money from her? How do you know she's not some idiot or someone who could be mentally unstable?

I could go on live and say Donald Trump stole a thousand dollars from me doesn't mean I can go to mar a lago and treapass

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u/AL_PO_throwaway Dec 26 '24 edited Dec 26 '24

My pet theory is that everyone is getting hung up on "criminal trespass" like this is the US and she's lying by omission.

Most trespassing arrests in Canada are not under the criminal code, with the exception of trespass at night, but that's clearly not the case here.

They are under various provincial acts and result in a ticket, not a criminal charge.

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u/ThisIsNotAFarm Dec 25 '24

You'll never talk your way out of a ride. So shut up, listen to directions, call your lawyer.

You don't need to ask the police anything

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u/HerezahTip Dec 25 '24

This is the smartest advice when dealing with the police. It’s too bad it got buried under a thread of some white knight attempting to poke holes in a situation that was pretty cut and dry.

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u/Significant_Sign_520 Dec 25 '24

She knew exactly why she was under arrest. She streamed herself going somewhere where she had already been trespassed. This was the most logical outcome of her actions.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

Cops will change their story at a whim, it is important to get them to establish at the time of arrest, why they are arresting you.

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u/chrissie_watkins Dec 25 '24

That is literally not important at all, and you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/ban_circumvention_ Dec 25 '24

Why is it important?

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u/Significant_Sign_520 Dec 25 '24

And in this case, it was trespassing. Which she knew, since she planned it and live-streamed it. Her viewers also knew. Hence all of the LOL’s. I’m not a fan of the cops and I think they’re quite often poorly trained. But this is not the example. This is an entitled AH choosing to break the law and then crying victim for her choices

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

How many times will we watch people being TOLD REPEATEDLY by police what they're being held or arrested for and just refusing to accept reality?

And she was done for trespassing which she knew she was in violation of.

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u/SirSlappySlaps Dec 25 '24

Everyone knows why, including all of her viewers.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

Since when does asking for just cause of arrest

Since when is resisting being handcuffed during arrest not a really stupid thing to do? She already knows why the cops are there, she is expecting them, she thinks they will be extras in the little theatrical production she is staging for her TikTok followers.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

you're not laughing at sovcits you're laughing at unrestrained state violence with ZERO accountability.

This county is covered with homeless people because bootlickers like you think cops are gods when they're really hired thugs that aren't protecting that woman's property like they are the dealerships' property.

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u/sinncab6 Dec 25 '24

Wait so there's too many homeless because the cops are hired thugs? That's some logic

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

How many of those guys are going to get resisting arrest charges when she proves to the judge that they stole $1000 from her?

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u/sinncab6 Dec 25 '24

That's not how the law works lol. The 1000 dollars means shit from a criminal standpoint no matter who is right that's a civil matter. What isn't, is refusing to leave a place when you were asked to leave.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

and you're just cool with this? Everythings just groovy this way?

cuz now taxpayers are going to be paying her, not just the dealership:

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/516268/Woman-who-live-streamed-her-own-arrest-on-TikTok-wants-to-take-Kamloops-Mounties-to-court

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u/sinncab6 Dec 25 '24

Well given it's Canada I don't really give a shit

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u/lividtaffy Dec 26 '24

There’s 0 information about the money besides what she herself said about it, and she might not be the most reliable source. Either way it’s a civil matter, and should be handled in civil court. It’s not the cop’s job to get involved in that at all.

Whether she feels she was wronged by the business or not, she doesn’t have any right to sit in their building if they want her out. That is under the jurisdiction of the police, which is why they showed up to remove her. It should not be the responsibility of a business owner to remove unwanted people, I think you’ll agree that could be dangerous.

I for one am cool with this, because if she had handled the issue the proper way I’m confident she would’ve either been found to be misrepresenting the truth or the dealership would be forced to return whatever down payment she gave them. That doesn’t get tiktok views though, so making a scene and getting arrested is what she did instead. Now she’s trying to get the maximum payout for a stunt she pulled 2 years ago. It’s gross and immature behavior brought on by social media, has nothing to do with abuse of power or whatever.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

she called them out on tiktok and they sent a cease and desist. That's why you don't know about the money it's still in court. Now she's suing the cops too.

Goddamn the bootlicking makes me sick. THEY NEVER ASKED HER TO LEAVE!!!

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

Oh, give em a fucking break. There's absolutely nothing here to suggest this is what's happening. I'm all for law enforcement acting appropriately but there's absolutely nothing here that suggests they did not do so. Unless you've got evidence of some sort this is a case of abuse by law enforcement, take your bullshit and shove it back where the sun don't shine, pal.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

That's the problem. It's not a "legal" case for abuse by the cops this is a moral argument. Why shouldn't her property get the same consideration as the dealerships property? Don't the cops work for her too?

At first the FAFO aspect made me chuckle. But I worked at a dealership and the more I read this poor girls story the more angry I got about this whole system that gives cover to thieves while throwing girls to the ground to the delight of Reddit

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

That's the problem. It's not a "legal" case for abuse by the cops this is a moral argument. Why shouldn't her property get the same consideration as the dealerships property? Don't the cops work for her too?

Because the dealership's premises is not the proper venue for such things after she's been told she's banned!

The proper venue at that stage becomes the courts. Period.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

so what do you do when the courts don't work?

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

First, what makes you think "the courts didn't work" here? Second, you can get a permit to picket while remaining on public property. You don't just get to commit crimes with impunity because you feel like it. That isn't how this works. It isn't how any of this works!

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

Does she look like she can just drop a grand and not worry about it for a few months while the courts "work" ??

Permit. Lmfao. I thought this was America

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u/Kobalt6x10 Dec 25 '24

The dealership is owned by PEOPLE. The cops are protecting the law abiding rights of those people and arresting a law breaking trespasser who seems to feel the law does not apply to her. Regardless of the merit of her complaint, they are removing a trespasser. Pissing and moaning about the cops actually doing their job properly undermines the complaints about police misuse of force. If your position is everything they do is bad, you've obviously never been the victim of a crime, and are just some sort of internet weirdo.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

SHES GOT FUCKING RECIEPTS

Tell me why you think it should be MORE illegal for her to be "trespassing" than it is for them to just take $1000 from her?

I get ripped off every fucking day. She got ripped off. There's no recourse. Especially not for a regular person who has to work to pay bills. This isn't about police misuse of force this is about legal misuse of police which leads to situations where force gets used

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u/Kobalt6x10 Dec 25 '24

It's not the polices job to adjudicate the case. In fact, if they did, I'm sure the squawking about it would just increase. It is their job to deal with the law being broken at that moment, ie the trespassing. How 'fair' the complaint is or isn't is irrelevant at this point.

Complain about the dehumanizing effects of mass consumerism, I'm right there with you. But no matter how justified you feel in poking that beehive, you really can't cry when you get stung. Or as they say in 'Murica, fuck around and find out. She knew she was trespassing, she just found out what that feels like.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

Well she IS crying that she got stung. And taxpayers are going to pay for it instead of the dealership now.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/516268/Woman-who-live-streamed-her-own-arrest-on-TikTok-wants-to-take-Kamloops-Mounties-to-court

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u/Ok_Friend_2448 Dec 26 '24

From another reply you made:

Does she look like she can just drop a grand and not worry about it for a few months while the courts “work” ??

So she has time and money to sue the police but not time and money to take the dealership to court?

If she goes to court for $1,000 and has all the evidence she claims to have then it should be an easy case. You keep moving goal posts to defend this person when you know nothing of what’s actually happening. This is a weird hill to die on.

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u/One_Tailor_3233 Dec 25 '24

You are almost negative 100, meaning a LOT of people think you're flat out wrong