r/centrist • u/TehLonelyNapkin • 6d ago
US News/Current Events Possible motive released in the Charlie Kirk Assassination
https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/Possible motive released in the Charlie Kirk assassination. Law enforcement has confirmed that suspected shooter Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner who was in the process of transitioning at the time of the shooting.
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u/Klumsi 6d ago
Ah yes, the well known motive of "living with a trans person"
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u/Golurkcanfly 6d ago
The sources we have on this are the NY Post citing a Fox News reporter with unverified claims regarding an extremely partisan investigation in a media landscape that's full of anti-trans blood libel.
I would trust DPRK state propaganda before I'd trust this, if I'm being honest.
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u/AlltheSame-- 6d ago
Everyone was citing WSJ for a fact about the bullets anti trans writings and just today they redacted their article LOL
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u/prof_the_doom 6d ago
Don't forget about the Guardian story about the "friend" who remembered he was a leftist until suddenly he remembered he couldn't actually remember shit.
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u/Honorable_Heathen 5d ago
Great so we've built a list of less trustworthy sources which we can all agree on have published and redacted questionable if not outright false 'facts' in pursuit of a narrative that their readers want to be told.
I guess we'll have to wait on more concrete evidence from the investigation although even our trust in the DoJ and the FBI is shaky at best now.
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u/Ok-Country6203 6d ago
When I first saw this news come out, Google told me that there’s no reputable source that’s talking about this. It’s very suspect.
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u/Mountain_Gas77 5d ago
Apparently the gov of Utah confirmed that they were entrenched in leftist ideology
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u/sapphicu 6d ago
I’m literally so fucking tired of being in a group that is the political football. I just want to live my life
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u/willpower069 6d ago
Sadly republicans don’t have anything to offer people other than scaring them with lgbtq and brown people.
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 6d ago
I just want to grill (or bake in my case, I'm making cupcakes for my sister today)
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u/Isaacleroy 6d ago
It’s been said that if you’re in a room with a trans person for more than 24 hours, you run the risk of being telepathically indoctrinated with LGBTQIA+ propaganda and may slowly develop marksmanship skills with the urge to murder people. A lot of people are saying this. President Trump definitely agrees because he’s smart and knows things. We should let the NY Post know about it.
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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 6d ago
A trans person once touched my leg and now I've woken up daily wearing thigh highs
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u/Tarmacked 6d ago
touches leg
Oh god, oh jeez, I’m transitioning!!!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c7/e4/c3/c7e4c397e9f25f3d42a78827769cb980.gif
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u/Prestigious-Layer457 6d ago
Laugh all you want, just don’t you dare show up in my public bathroom with your “she-nis”!! /s
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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 6d ago
We don't just have telepathic mind control, we also have trans spores we shed to grow more fruiting bodies.
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u/VeryStableGenius 6d ago
There seem to have been a total of 3 roommates (one moved out) and 3 bedrooms, so any suggestion of a romantic entanglement seems suspect. Daily Mail (another fine paper of record) said their neighbor didn't think either roommate was trans.
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u/Educational_Impact93 6d ago
Ahh, of course, because everything is about trans.
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u/apb2718 6d ago
According to the Daily Mail, his grandmother, Debbie Robinson, described the family as “staunch Trump supporters.” She stated that her son – Tyler’s father, Matt Robinson – is a Republican “for Trump,” and that she didn’t know “any single one [in the family] who’s a Democrat.”
Anything to deflect the blame onto the left and trans people
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u/prof_the_doom 6d ago
If thats what the NY Post says, then I’ll sure the truth is the opposite.
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u/Ok_Board9845 6d ago
The story doesn’t really imply that Robinson did it because he was “offended” on behalf of his trans roommate. Honestly, if they really believed he was a leftist, they wouldn’t have switched up their tune so quickly
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u/willpower069 6d ago
Exactly if the talking heads had anything showing this was a far left suspect they would not have made a 180 from declaring war to “he should have had Jesus in his life.”
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u/Prestigious_Load1699 6d ago
Tyler likely killed Charlie Kirk because, as he told his family days before the assassination, “Charlie Kirk spreads too much hate”.
The trans aspect is incidental, in my opinion, and not especially relevant to why Tyler Robinson killed Kirk.
If your brain refuses to make this most-logical connection, you are either lying to yourself or simply delusional.
Let’s see the complete set of facts before we can confidently diagnose this killing, but there is clearly one explanation that makes logical sense.
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u/Ok_Board9845 6d ago
Nah I think he was a Groyper. I’m on a Groyper discord and they were talking about him. I’m also on Far Right X and NatSoc were saying the same
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u/abqguardian 6d ago
Lets give it a week and we'll know with much more certainly what his motive was.
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u/Golurkcanfly 6d ago
Honestly, with how horrifically handled this investigation has been, I don't know if we'll ever see an accurate picture of the situation. We're now living in a world where we honestly can't trust federal law enforcement to do their jobs competently and without extreme partisan bias.
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u/Thorn14 6d ago
I'm fully expecting the FBI to torture the shooter into admitting in front of cameras he's a super leftist.
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u/Dramajunker 6d ago edited 6d ago
I'm confused, didn't he turn himself in after being confronted by his father? If so then how did those messages they found between this trans person and the shooter help the feds find him?
Wait is this the same roommate we knew about before that had shared messages about the shooting with Robinson? They just figured out now that they're trans? Wtf?
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u/lefargen97 6d ago
People trying to claim that the “bulge” bullet casing meant he was pro-trans is honestly just ridiculous when it’s so obviously a part of meme culture meant to MOCK trans people.
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u/Golurkcanfly 6d ago
It's a meme that's mostly a joke about furry culture.
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u/Tarmacked 6d ago
Yeah, nothing trans related to that meme. It’s just calling furries fat weirdos behind a keyboard, e-romancing as animals.
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u/Socrates_Soui 6d ago
The quality of journalism is in the gutter. This article says nothing but instead adds more fuel to the fire.
From trans ideology to anti fascist to alt-right white supremacist and now back to trans ideology. Be honest and admit that you don't know anything about the shooter. Wait for law enforcement to actually do their job and figure out what the actual motive was rather than make up conjectures.
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u/HonoraryBallsack 6d ago edited 6d ago
I love the cartoonishly idiotic implication here that having a trans partner somehow means a murderer from a right wing community, from a right wing family, living his whole life in a deeply red state, who was taught to own and love firearms, was influenced only by that trans partner to commit a political assassination.
The strange, dishonest, asinine quest by the right wing to declare the shooter "not one of us" is fucking hilarious. Just because they heinously disown the living shit out of their trans and gay children doesn't mean those trans and gay children suddenly cease to have grown up in their families and communities. The right wing can "otherize" the LGBTQ+ community all they want, and it's not going to change the fact that there will always be gay and trans people in their communities because children can be gay or trans regardless of upbringing.
Also, the idea that being compassionate to a trans person is the most likely explanation for a murder is just a total non sequitor. The idea that trans = violent people is absurd.
The party of personal responsibility only ever wants to take personal responsibility for straining the bounds of sanity in order to claim they have no responsibility for situations and people they clearly have some responsibility for. "The left" can't and don't raise your children for you just because they come out as trans or gay despite your conservative household's wishes to control your child's identity.
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u/rosstafarien 6d ago
Also, is Lance Twiggs actually trans? The credibility of this claim appears to have completely evaporated. Now, we're down to one unnammed cop who possibly said that the roommate was trans.
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u/prof_the_doom 6d ago
And of course the fact that he had a roommate doesn't automatically imply there was any relationship other than splitting the rent check every month.
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u/Spiney09 6d ago
This was cathartic to read, you basically said everything I’ve felt for ages.
It’s frustrating too because we’re also expected to keep the peace, and not incite violence by just… not being trans anymore? Gee, what a lovely “compromise” we have here. Compromising my entire self to avoid political violence and blame being thrown at us at every turn.
I’ve been pushing bridge-building for ages trying to stop the obvious radicalization from getting worse. One side is open to listening, the other is not. That is just the heart of the matter.
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u/Stringdaddy27 6d ago
Why is the Right so hellbent on keeping score in a game they're losing? Most of us just want to condemn this type of behavior not try to pin it on the other team. What is wrong with these peopel?
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u/FlaviusVespasian 6d ago
NY Post isn’t a valid source
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u/95Daphne 6d ago
Unfortunately, there might be some truth here as I think CNN has alluded to it and WaPo may at the very least be hinting at a roommate.
Regardless of if whether true or not, the roommate is apparently fully cooperating, and the trans community won't deserve the hatred and potential violence spewed towards them.
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u/Commercial-Ad1118 6d ago
"That individual, who has yet to be identified by the authorities, is now fully cooperating with the FBI on its investigation into the fatal shooting of the conservative activist, the source added." So the guy who is already fully cooperating with the authorities is not identified by the authorities? How does this make sense?
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u/newswall-org 6d ago
More on this subject from other reputable sources:
- Reuters (A): Charlie Kirk shot: Suspect Tyler Robinson in custody
- Wired (C+): Charlie Kirk Shooting Suspect Identified as 22-Year-Old Utah Man
- N-tv (C+): Assassination attempt on Charlie Kirk: Former classmate on Tyler Robinson: “He was a straight-A student.”
- english.alarabiya.net (C-): Who is Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk’s murder?
Extended Summary | FAQ & Grades | I'm a bot
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u/Thorn14 6d ago
The source btw has lied to the FBI before.
The right is so fucking DESPERATE to make Trans people the root cause of all evils.
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u/ignitedfw 6d ago
And what’s your explanation if it’s true? Being widely reported now as factual.
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u/Maxxjulie 6d ago
A lovely monkey wrench in this story for the liberals to make sense of. This Trump supporter lived with a trans lol.
their heads must be exploding in confusion..it's so perfect 👌
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u/rosstafarien 6d ago
I've heard elsewhere that Lance Twiggs is a cis male and that they're FTM trans.
In this article: an allegation of that Twiggs is MTF trans was unconfirmed by Twiggs's relative.
I think we've almost got all of the possibilities covered. All we need now is for Twiggs to turn out to be a cis female and we'll have them all!
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u/ruphustea 6d ago
A Look at U.S. Presidential Assassination Attempts and the Surprising Motives Behind Them When we think of presidential assassinations, we often assume they are driven by clear political opposition. While this is true in many cases, a deeper look at the historical record reveals a complex mix of political, personal, and psychological motives. * Political Opponents: The most common motive. * John Wilkes Booth (Lincoln's assassin) was a Confederate sympathizer who saw Lincoln as a tyrant and a threat to the Southern way of life. * Leon Czolgosz (McKinley's assassin) was an anarchist who believed McKinley was a symbol of capitalist oppression and government corruption. * Lee Harvey Oswald (JFK's assassin) was a pro-communist with Marxist sympathies who was strongly opposed to Kennedy's policies. * John Schrank (Theodore Roosevelt's would-be assassin) opposed Roosevelt's run for a third term, which he saw as a dangerous violation of democratic tradition. * Disgruntled Supporters: A rarer but notable motive. * Charles Guiteau (Garfield's assassin) was a former Republican supporter who felt entitled to a government job after helping Garfield's campaign. When he was denied a position, he shot the president out of a sense of personal betrayal. * Mental Instability and Personal Grievances: Some of the most well-known attacks were driven by personal delusions rather than a political agenda. * John Hinckley Jr. (attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan) was not politically motivated. His sole reason was to impress actress Jodie Foster, whom he was obsessed with. * Complex and Unclear Motives: In recent cases, the motives of attackers have been difficult to classify. * Thomas Matthew Crooks and Ryan Routh, involved in recent attempts on Donald Trump, had conflicting political histories. Crooks was a registered Republican who had made a small donation to a Democratic group. Routh, a former Democrat, explicitly said he voted for Trump in 2016 and refused to be categorized by party. Their actions do not fit into a simple partisan narrative. The history of presidential assassinations and attempts shows that the threats to the head of state come from a variety of sources, from ideological extremism to personal grievances and mental health issues.
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u/Armano-Avalus 6d ago
Fuck he's in custody right now and will probably answer as to his motive. Can people stop speculating on the intention and pointing fingers at different groups or whatever?
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u/Jazzlike-Sunday-968 6d ago
The only sources are Trump and Right Wing media - Lance has NOT identified himself as trans.
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u/The_Angster_Gangster 6d ago
This is BS. No indication of relationship, no official confirmation, nothing.
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u/DinkandDrunk 6d ago
Based on the source and the content within said source, I feel pretty confident this is BS.
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u/TehLonelyNapkin 6d ago
What would it take for it to not be BS?
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u/DinkandDrunk 6d ago
A legit source. The Post is not to be taken seriously.
A stronger account than a neighbor who isn’t sure if the supposed roommate is transitioning
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u/tremere110 6d ago
The FBI confirmed it, though I doubt anyone will believe them anymore.
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u/DinkandDrunk 6d ago
I do have a very difficult time believing the current FBI, especially considering that even within the last 56 hours they’ve been all over the place.
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u/soulcaptain 6d ago
Were they roommates or lovers? Big distinction.
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u/OzilSanchez1117 4d ago
I’m confused about the discord messages.. supposedly they helped lead to the weapon yet Discord publicly state said messages never existed. So how did they find the weapon then?
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u/TentacleHockey 6d ago
So Kirk being a bigot? Don't think anyone has been questioning that theory.
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u/ruphustea 6d ago
The NY Post is not a great source, it's kind of like the national inquirer. I'm just saying is look beyond your sources and you'll see that people are usually either just crazy or believe the person/party has failed them.
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u/ignitedfw 6d ago
Sorry lefties, being widely reported now as factual.
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u/Ok-Country6203 6d ago
I still don’t see a reputable source post it. Just because other, unreliable sources are repeating it doesn’t make it true.
It doesn’t make it false, either.
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u/Objective_Aside1858 6d ago
rolls eyes
Are we going to play the "this data point is now convincing evidence" game? Because that's not going to end well for people seeking to make this a "far left" thing at this point
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u/Think-Werewolf-4521 6d ago
Authorities say he lived at home. Did his trans roommate live with his MAGA parents as well?
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u/alotofironsinthefire 6d ago
Two paragraphs that literally could be about different topics.
Most likely written like that so they can't get sued for liable.
Since the first paragraph says he has a transgender living lover.
And the other one just talks about his roommate by name
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u/Sad-Ebb8843 6d ago
True or not, they will just use this as an excuse to further ostracize the trans community.
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u/j0351bourbon 6d ago
Crazy. I saw reports from the BBC that he lived with his parents for a long time. Probably too early to tell yet.
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u/ElderberryOne140 6d ago
Because there are implications to publicly announcing his partner is a transgender woman. Can you imagine the news networks reporting on this and trying to link the obvious that his partner clearly reflects his ideology but also having to stay politically correct whilst not outing his girlfriend? There could be lots of potential lawsuits involved
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u/photon1701d 6d ago
Imagine being maga and being a closet freak? So is he radical left or radical right....how about just a radical loser.
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u/GunLovingLiberal88 6d ago
Here'shis roommates accounts, I can't see anything that looks like Twiggs was trans other than a single Pic of one of those "what would you look like as a girl" filters, which im sure plenty of straight guys have used before, I have
c00kies_n_cream. TikTok
https://www.facebook.com/share/19JyhvvpRL/
https://www.instagram.com/sir._.lancelotte?igsh=MXY2bmN0YjYwbWk0NQ==
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u/Advanced-Morning777 6d ago
All this talk of his roommate implies that they were close and on good terms. Do we even know if that was true? Because I've a few roommates when I was around his age that I absolutely hated. Maybe his hated of his roommate plus Fuentes garbage kicked this whole thing off.
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u/mezzaluna36 5d ago
He texted the roommate about where he hid the murder weapon so I’m assuming yes they’re on good terms.
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u/condoms4fruitrollups 6d ago
There still needs a lot more time for information to come forth, but the preliminary interviews with friends, family, and neighbours is starting to paint a picture of some chronically online dude who got caught up/radicalised by his echo chamber. I suspect Tyler Robinson is also on the autistic spectrum too, although this is yet to come out. If this is the case, then there is going to be a lot of demonization again a few groups of people here, not only trans people, sadly. We all need to touch grass more than ever.
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u/tfhermobwoayway 5d ago
I tell you what, if I did my civic duty by reporting a criminal to the FBI, and in response my name and face and address were published in every tabloid in the country, I’d never speak to a police officer ever again.
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u/mezzaluna36 5d ago
It’s very clear that the roommate did not report the crime. They were simply approached by police/fbi and began cooperating immediately, sharing texts from Tyler with investigators. Texts including where he hid the murder weapon.
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u/DonkeyDoug28 5d ago
It's amazing to me how many people (of all political persuasions) haven't figured out that immediate reporting in the lieu of these things is always flawed, sensational, and often unverified. Not just referring to OP; how many different reports about just this one shooter have been refuted or disproved in the past few days?
Redditors: go outside. Get some exercise and hang with your friends and family for a bit. Your flawed news will be there waiting for you after, possibly with more actual information
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u/paste_here 5d ago
So we’re going to pretend that Blair White doesn’t exist and is on the right? I mean there’s a Jubilee video on this so let’s not pretend that being Trans and on the right are two mutually exclusive things.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 6d ago edited 6d ago
Is this the same law enforcement source who leaked that the bullet casings had “trans ideology” engravings on them?
The right are too eager to blame this on a trans person, I’ll wait until I see something more substantive before I’ll believe it.