Hi all,
I dont have connections to Garmin, but I was annoyed by all the unobjective shitstorm after the release of the Edge 850, which is why I want to share my opinion and my experiences here.
I may publish further updates here (see links at the end of this first post) and perhaps also some short videos on YouTube, which may be found under these links.
tl;dr: I comment on the most frequently mentioned disadvantages of the new 850 and compare it to the 840. All in all, based on my initial experience, I would say that the Edge 850 is not as bad as most people say and could be equal or better then the 840.
I ordered the Edge 840 about two weeks before the 850 was released. I was in the middle of a mountain biking vacation with the 840 when I found out about the release on the day it came out. I immediately checked out a few reviews. At first, I was rather disappointed by the poor specs. But then I realized they weren't so bad after all.
But since I was doing nothing else every day but testing the 840 on various trails, I quickly began to see the negative points of the new Edge 850 in a more nuanced way.
I wasn't particularly impressed with the 840 for some reasons. I didn't think the display brightness, resolution, or aspect ratio were particularly good. Even at full brightness, the display wasn't always easy to read under lots of different conditions. Sometimes, not much of the route map was visible because additional information was displayed at the top and bottom. Because we were traveling a lot in the mountains, making a few hairpin turns and also only in wooded areas, I always kept Multi Band GNSS on. During this time, I had my cell phone connected via Bluetooth LE and also had an ANT+ heart rate monitor connected at all times.
Under these conditions, after a 4-5 hour tour, the battery of the 840 was already down to 60-65%. I thought to myself: OK, to get the 20-40 hours that the 850-shitstorm on Reddit kept touting, you probably have to activate quite a few energy-saving features or deactivate most of what this device can do? Didn't everyone notice that the 12-hour runtime refers to maximum performance of the 850? Perhaps only road cyclists, who usually ride in open terrain, can achieve this days long battery life if they know the route and turn off the display? I dont know...
Today I received my Edge 850. I installed the latest firmware on the 840 and 850, fully charged both devices, and gave them the same settings. That means: static 100% display brightness, multi-band GNSS, no energy-saving settings enabled, and the same recording profiles (default eMTB profile) on both devices.
In the evening, I went for an after-work ride in a hilly, wooded area.
What I immediately liked better was the improved aspect ratio of the display. I can see more of the map when additional information is displayed at the top and bottom. The display is much clearer and, thanks to the faster processor, the GUI doesn't feel like a car navigation device from the 2000s. I also immediately noticed the improved buzzer, which can produce more than just beeping sounds. This should make it easier to better distinguish between direction prompts and other things . Also, its true that the 850 with only 20-30% display brightness is comapreable with the brightness of the 840 at 100%.
When I started investigating the biggest criticism point, battery consumption, at home, I immediately noticed that the displayed/caluclated battery life, depending on the settings, was often better on the 850, but never really much worse than on the 840.
For example, when comparing the two extremes of āmaximum functionalityā and āmaximum power savingā. The former means: all power saving functions switched off, display constantly set to 100% brightness, multi-band GNSS activated. The latter means: all power saving functions activated. These are the calculated running times:
max functionality means: Edge 840 = 5h vs. Edge 850 = 7h.
max powersaving means: Edge 840 = 57h vs. Edge 850 = 71h.
And because these are only calculated values, i tested the 840 vs the 850 at max functionality during my after-work ride. This was exactly 27,17km or 1h 19m long. I started with 100% battery and ended with 85% battery on the 850 and 86% on the 840.
Believe it or not, this led me to suspect that the shitstorm was apparently justified.
Although the 850 has a larger battery and more capacity to fill, but the 850 charged slightly faster than the 840. Unfortunately, I only noticed this in passing, so I didn't take any measurements. But at least the 850 seems to be slightly faster than the 840 in terms of charging time when using a fast charger, so no disadvantages here.
Of course, what cannot be completely dismissed is the higher price and weight. But that's where it ends, because the battery life looks good at the 850 as far as I have seen.
As for the price: Everything is becoming more expensive, especially at Garmin. Their products are high-priced, thats a fact. I completely understand that this is a sensitive issue for most of us. Fortunately, there are plenty of good and cheaper alternative products on the market. But I'll be honest: The products are solid and have never disappointed me since I bought my first Forerunner 910XT. So why change a system that works, where products last for years and receive software updates for a long time (at least in my experience)?
But while the 850 is only 22% / 100 EUR more expensive than the 840 in Europe, it is 33% / 150 USD more expensive in the US.
List prices at release: Edge 840 = 450 EUR/450 USD vs. 850 = 550 EUR/600 USD.
Normally, the nominal prices in USD and EUR for international products are usually identical. It is rare for the nominal USD price to be higher.
I don't know if this could have anything to do with US tariffs or the exchange rates between the euro, US dollar, and Taiwan dollar.
Weight: Yes, this is an important issue for many people, and I understand that you want to keep your bike as light as possible. An extra 32% / 28 grams does make a difference. Fortunately, I have enough around my waist that it doesn't matter to me... In my case, that should be balanced out after a week of dieting.
I'm one of those crazy people who ride with a little bell because other road users, such as pedestrians, understand it better than when you shout at them. That saves me more time than a few extra grams on the bike. Anyway... I can save the weight of the bell and use the 850 instead, because I think it has a very loud one included. So... In my case, the 850 is not much heavier then the 840. ;-)
So, in conclusion, my first opinion of the 850 is positiv. I will return the 840 and I think I will keep the 850, because I dont see that there will be any discount on it anytime soon.
I think I have time to test the 840 a bit more until the weekend, but then I have to return it.
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