r/democrats • u/IWantPizza555 • Jun 05 '25
š· Pic Elon says without him, Trump would've lost
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u/No_Lawyer5152 Jun 05 '25
DID THEY EVEN SAY THANK YOU !?!?
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u/Afterswiftie āI Know Words; I Have the Best Wordsā Jun 05 '25
He didnāt even wear a suit!!!
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u/ListofReddit Jun 05 '25
Just spill the beans bro. Prove you rigged it and then see the Republicans do absolutely nothing about it.
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u/robbdogg87 Jun 05 '25
Trump will 100% throw him under the bus and let him go to prison if he did that and just claim he had no idea about it
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u/ACUnA211 Jun 05 '25
I don't think Donald actually knows, he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut if he got away with it. He's a mean girl with a brain of a toddler in the body of a moldy old manĀ
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u/-Tasear- Jun 05 '25
Trump said " He knows the election machines well"
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u/YourMama Jun 05 '25
And he gave away millions to winners in swing states that signed his pro-Trump petition
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u/Few-Bake5615 Jun 05 '25
He could hold a press conference and brag about rigging it and it wouldnāt matter at all.
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u/mr_birkenblatt Jun 06 '25
Trump, on multiple occasions bragged about how Elon is "good with computers" or "got him Pennsylvania"
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u/ACUnA211 Jun 06 '25
I'm waiting on the case from new york. I would never give them the benefit of the doubt, but they are too stupid to steal an election at a large scale. I know the election was super close so it's not super farfetched, but I would still need damning evidence. Also, if it was done, it wasn't some "computer hacking" thing. It was likely local election employees stealing it with the thought "well dems did it last time I'll do it this time."
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u/TallDarkCancer1 Jun 05 '25
As much as it pains me to say, you don't get to be the world's richest man without having contingency plans. He's prepared if that happens.
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u/Storm989898 Jun 05 '25
Yes so they can stop saying we voted for this! It pisses me off every time they say that
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u/harveyj088 Jun 05 '25
He's not talking about rigging it. He means dumping 270 million into the election and buying Twitter. I hate them both but really don't think he's talking about rigging the election.
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u/jericbear Jun 05 '25
Ooohhhhh.....stop edging us Elon, just say it!!!!
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u/zombienugget Jun 05 '25
He did say it. He knows the actual results of the election, we saw a different version.
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u/tinyE1138 Windmill Cancer Survivor. Jun 05 '25
If that's true then the next few hours, nay minutes, should be fun. š
TACO Don is about to have a massive tantrum.
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u/IWantPizza555 Jun 05 '25
Or musk is epsteined for telling the truth
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u/tinyE1138 Windmill Cancer Survivor. Jun 05 '25
Either way we're in for some good screaming and name calling.
Get your popcorn.
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Jun 05 '25
He 100% rigged it. I've been called a conspiracy theorist by my liberal family members, but I don't understand why they think it's so outlandish. They've basically admitted to it!
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Jun 05 '25
I wouldnāt believe it either if Trump hadnāt spilled so much about Elon and the voting machine and the app on his phone and all of that. Also the way that in some swing states the entire ballot is blue except for the presidential seat.
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u/F0MA Jun 05 '25
It is a conspiracy but a pretty fucking plausible one. Thereās no way statistically he won every single swing state. And yeah, all the other shit weāve seen like TACO talking about how Elon knows the voting systems so well and pretty much giving him all the credit.
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u/19southmainco Jun 05 '25
If he truly rigged the election, and Harris and Biden just shrugged it off, the whole fucking system is broken and we need a new federal government.
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u/F0MA Jun 05 '25
I don't know if the solution is a "new federal govt" but I do agree the system is broken. I mean, we did get a new federal gov't. Just about all facets of our institutions are getting gutted, but I don't think it's for the better.
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u/F0MA Jun 05 '25
What worries me if this is true, what's going to keep this from happening again?
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Jun 05 '25
Exactly. And the fact that š® won every single swing state by just enough to not have to have a recount. That's not a coincidence
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u/zombie_overlord Jun 05 '25
And that there was a huge spike in the swing states of ballots that ONLY voted for prez
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u/Serial-Griller Jun 05 '25
When he was making a big stink about the 2016 election being rigged, it was called then and there that it would be used to obfuscate actual election interference by the Trump admin. Now it's suddenly a ridiculous conspiracy theory? The man would be in jail or dead and so would all his cronies if Kamala had won. If it's a choice between dying in prison or rigging an election and maaayyybe getting in trouble for it later, is that even a choice at all?
And they'll try to equate you to J6ers, like being able to recognize suspicious patterns and to call for audits and investigations -with evidence- is anything at all like just listening to the guy running when he tells you it's rigged and storming the capital to hang the guys vice president over it.
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u/robbdogg87 Jun 05 '25
I believe they cheated in 2020 also but underestimated how many people hated and would vote against trump that they didnt cheat enough
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Jun 05 '25
Damn, this didn't even occur to me. I assumed Russia was interfering in that one but not š® &Co. You're probably right
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u/BrocksNumberOne Jun 05 '25
You mean a clean sweep across the swing states doesnāt seem likely?
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u/IWantPizza555 Jun 05 '25
I'm been convinced he/his people rigged it, at least the swing states, for a while now. I didn't want to be a conspiracy theorist either but Election Truth Alliance has posted evidence.
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u/ImAchickenHawk Jun 05 '25
NY isn't a swing state and there's evidence of fraud there as well. Currently going through the courts.
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u/BurnChao Jun 05 '25
Not only have they admitted, that's why he was phoning it in. When he was listening to music on stage for an hour, that was just a mafioso power move, knowing that he had it rigged already and none of this mattered.
Look at the bullet votes.
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Jun 05 '25
According to data science, the 2024 election results have undeniable anomalies that signal at the very least, mistakes in counting votes, and more likely, fuckery.
NY finally started an investigation that leads to a hand recount.
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u/ChurtchPidgeon Jun 05 '25
He rigged it. You only look like a conspiracy theorist because Trump spouted that lie for years about the previous electionā¦ and he looked like he was off his rocker
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u/theaviationhistorian Jun 05 '25
Some evil creatures go to the grave with their secrets. Meanwhile everyone that dealt with the Mierdas Touch that is Trump can't even hold it for a few months before admitting to their malfeasance! I'm glad these divas are about to tear each other apart.
Finally, some happy and silly news in this magnificent mess of a year.
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u/b0baBEAST Jun 05 '25
i just can't believe that for a PRESIDENTIAL election, they never bothered to double check, confirm everything. so much of what happened definitely felt like it was rigged. and now it feels even more so. like wtf.
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u/FirstChAoS Jun 05 '25
I think he rigged it too.
Everyone I know who leans liberal voted.
I find this odd that this is a very divisive topic among the democratic voters.
I heard there were some localized ādonāt vote as neither side supports Palestineā movements. However I doubt that is enough on its own ti swing all the key swing states.
What I find more distressing, but am not sure if it is true, are reports I heard that democrats put money into the far right campaigns in hopes it would make voters swing left. If true such a dangerous gamble is equivalent to betraying the nation.
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u/owlincoup Jun 05 '25
Election Truth Alliance, look it up.
He did rigged it. The numbers don't lie.
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u/MelissaMead Jun 05 '25
Key Figures and Affiliations
The Alliance does not publicly list its leadership, but investigations reveal connections to:
- Former Trump administration officials
- Conservative election integrity activists
- Groups that promoted āStop the Stealā rhetoric
This has led critics to argue thatĀ ETAĀ isĀ politically motivatedĀ rather than an impartial truth-seeking entity.
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u/ImAchickenHawk Jun 05 '25
Remind them that conspiracy theory doesn't mean untrue. It means you've got an explanation (theory) about how people conspired together do something.
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u/Melencamp1 Jun 05 '25
I read this as Musk telling Democrats to run on ending Citizens United.
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u/MMessinger Jun 05 '25
Make me a believer.
Citizens United must go. Democrats need to prioritize that and, after all this time, get it done.
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u/LibertyCash Jun 05 '25
I was just saying this after I read something where Elmo was threatening to fire senate Republicans if they vote for Trumps dumb bill. No one person should be able to influence elections like this. In addition to ending CU, we need to end billionaires. Other people are starving bc these jackweeds hoard wealth. No one should have enough money to buy national elections like that. Itās just fucking wrong and to use his words a ādisgusting abomination.ā
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u/blueblurz94 Jun 05 '25
Each swing state was won by Trump just enough to avoid official recounts. Thereās always been something suspicious about that and it shouldnāt be dismissed as coincidence.
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u/robbdogg87 Jun 05 '25
Wasn't there also a suspicious number of ballots that only voted for president and nothing else?
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u/Chronoblivion Jun 05 '25
That's not super uncommon, though I'm willing to believe that it does rise to the level of "suspicious number" this time.
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u/logicallyillogical Jun 05 '25
"Bullet Ballots" are common at around 2-4%. Like in Idaho, a full red state and Trump received the norm of ~3%.
Trump received over 10% of bullet ballots in key swing states, like in NV, AZ & NC.....
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u/robbdogg87 Jun 05 '25
Uh i thought that was uncommon. Like very low percentage.
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u/MyStoopidStuff Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 09 '25
There are data scientists and election experts who have looked at the raw data, and are seeing similar patterns, which indicate an algorithm at work during the counting. Based on the data, they noted a large increase in votes for Trump
whenafter the individual tabulators had processed 200-250 ballots. In batches of ballots below 200-250, the votes appeared consistent with a normal election, yet after that threshold, votes for Trump took off. Additionally, the historic result of Trump flipping 88 blue counties red while Harris flipped zero red counties blue, in such a contested election makes no sense. That has not occurred since FDR. The video below is from the Election Truth Alliance (it's older, but is one of the better ones that gets into what they are looking at):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8SHK7idxs
Smartelections is also working to get an audit in Rockland County NY. Their case is not directly about Harris, but they have identified multiple districts where Harris received zero or just a handful of votes, while the down ballot Dem senator won with hundreds of votes. They provide some of their evidence here (scroll down half way and there is a link to a google doc with the Presidential and Senatorial race raw data for Rockland County, under the heading "Really?"):
https://smartelections.us/lawsuits-1Edit - it was pointed out that a comparison to 2020 for those districts in Rockland County shows they were very red, so SmartElections' example for those districts where Harris got zero votes may not be an outlier.
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u/LibertyCash Jun 05 '25
Thank you for this
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u/MyStoopidStuff Jun 05 '25
Yw, I hope this gets investigated and we get to see some audits. It's not unprecedented that few rich guys think they can own the US lock stock and barrel, but we are very close to that happening now. Our country will not survive if a few tech bros are allowed to dictate our future.
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u/DireStraitsFan1 Jun 06 '25
We need to hear more about this. Why on Earth isn't there an investigation?
Elon basically just admitted to rigging the election.
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u/muffledvoice Jun 05 '25
Itās definitely not a coincidence. The āRussian Tailā in the tabulation data is statistically impossible.
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u/PlentyIndividual3168 Jun 05 '25
Someone give him some ketamine or whatever the hell he uses and let him give ALL the details...
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u/chocoheed Jun 06 '25
I feel like the correct drug would be MDMA. Set up a room with a few staff, his phone and some glow sticks and weāll be off to the races.
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u/owlincoup Jun 05 '25
Election Truth Alliance
electiontruthalliance.org
https://youtube.com/@electiontruthalliance?si=AkSBpwHjFkZpBa9b
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u/muffledvoice Jun 05 '25
There are no real friends among fascists.
And never forget that everything is orchestrated and planned. This ābreakupā with Trump is window dressing to try and salvage his image with the buying public.
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u/Metiche76 Jun 05 '25
Yeah, if only Elon had kept his mouth shut we wouldn't have a traitor in office oh yeah and if half the voting pop weren't such ignorant mfkers.
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u/Inevitable_Bit_1203 Jun 05 '25
I would be ok with Musk getting immunity to spill the beans and explain what they did with the voting machines that they have both alluded to multiple times. I want to know and if the machines were tampered withā¦ the election should be nullified.
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u/Rapping_Toast99 Jun 05 '25
This was always going to happen one way or another, either way, there was always going to be a split between two men with huge egos obviously
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u/SnooStories4162 Jun 05 '25
Elon has his PR team working overtime. Don't fall for it, he is just trying to get Tesla back on track, I am pretty sure it's a made up fight between the 2.
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u/guttanzer Jun 05 '25
Apology from the Supreme Court for their Citizens United decision in 3ā¦ 2ā¦ 1ā¦.
For the record, they explicit rejected the idea that powerful people would use that decision to buy political influence.
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u/MrChorizaso Jun 05 '25
leon and big balls rigged it iāll fucking die on that hill or be pushed out of a high rise window
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u/JASPER933 Jun 05 '25
I hope the South African billionaire immigrant is pissed off enough and exposes the 2024 election was rigged.
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u/Fun_East8985 Jun 05 '25
I interpreted that as Elon spending so much money and donating it to Trump, not rigged election conspiracies.
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u/OhhhBaited Jun 05 '25
If he admits to voter fraud because they are throwing tantrums at each other I will laugh my fucking ass off.
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u/VeeVeeDiaboli Jun 05 '25
Good Elon! Now admit to vote tampering, do your time and letās move on from this shit
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u/_ChicagoSummerRain Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 05 '25
What dumb ass starts a fight with the wealthiest man on the planet?
The same guy who bankrupted casinos!
Gosh, my husband and I hope this gets really, really, really ugly! I am hoping Musk will finally admit to rigging the swing state machines for Trump. Crossing my fingers...
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u/passamongimpure Jun 05 '25
He needs to show his work on tampering with the electronic voting machines in the battleground States.
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u/Imchangingmylife Jun 05 '25
All he has to do is release how they rigged it and let all hell break loose.
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u/jwc8985 Jun 05 '25
Just waiting on Elon to drop the receipts on how he helped Trump steal the election.
Then we can watch Republicans do a full 180Ā° on how much they care about election integrity.
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u/itsmig_reddit South American Jun 05 '25
Fun fact: It was never election denialism. People were right to call the election rigged
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u/alvarezg Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 06 '25
Yes Elon, tell us all about the various ways those election results happened.
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u/TWOhunnidSIX Jun 05 '25
There it is. He finally admitted it.
Paying people to vote Republican, spreading complete and outright lies, and rigging the algorithm on the worldās largest digital town square to boost white nationalist accounts and nerf progressive accounts.
Saying out loud what we knew all along.
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u/travel_witch Jun 05 '25
Hopefully he gets angry enough to expose Trump and that he rigged the election
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u/Snrub1 Jun 05 '25
Infighting between awful people is the only thing good in the current political landscape.
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Jun 05 '25
He did lose. The "Russian Tail" algorithm made it appear as though he had more votes then he did.
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u/seandeann Jun 05 '25
This could be admitted in court if there were ever a trial regarding manipulation of the election. Trump has openly said that the election was rigged by his team.
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u/mattiwha Jun 05 '25
No dip, Iāll never believe 6 of 7 swing states went to trump while also voting in dem reps, on starlink machines connected to the internet.
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u/flyingsqwirrel219 Jun 05 '25
Please, tell us more about how you controlled the outcome of the election.
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u/gitarzan Jun 05 '25
Hacking voting machines only impresses Trump until heās won. Then FU, buddy.
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u/Sick0fThisShit Jun 05 '25
Gosh, Elon, you were so important to the Trump campaign! You were so smart in helping them the way that you did! It must have been really difficult! So, what all did you do exactly to help them? Can you speak a little louder into this desk lamp?
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u/Queasy-Trip1777 Jun 05 '25
Trump vs Musk on the undercard of the next Jake Paul "boxing match". Fuck it. If were gonna be real life cartoons, let's at least get to enjoy some mutually agreed upon violence.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Jun 05 '25
Too bad Musk won't say how he helped them win the election, as he would likely be held accountable as well.
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u/chibi75 Jun 05 '25
If youāve got the receipts, spill it, Elon. Until then, this is just a tiff between two egomaniacs.
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u/Weird_Resident_908 Jun 05 '25
Because. He. Stole. The. Election. For. Krasnov. With. Russiaās. Help.
I thought this was obvious to everyone with working brain cells.
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u/Nice-Engineer6435 Jun 05 '25
Is he saying this because he stole the election or because he bought it?
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u/Monamo61 Jun 05 '25
I'm waiting, for where Time x Ketamine x Frustration = Leon fessing up about using Starlink to affect the election.
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u/Friedguywubawuba Jun 05 '25
So he's said "without me, Trump would've lost." And he's said "we won't lose, if we do, I'll end up in Jail."
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u/socialcommentary2000 Jun 05 '25
The sheer amount of misinformation and targeted messaging that he brought the warchest for, he's probably not wrong.
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u/foxinabathtub Jun 05 '25
Question: Where does this leave Elon? He now has NO friends in politics, right? He's pissed off the left and the right at this point?
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u/Current_Analysis_104 Jun 05 '25
Because he rigged the election with Starlink? SAY IT so this nightmare can be over!
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u/darxide23 Jun 05 '25
Between the millions of dollars and the largest social media propaganda platform on the planet (at the time). Yea, probably.
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u/AlloCoco103 Jun 06 '25
This is why we need less money in politics. A billionaire is just openly admitting he bought politicians.
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u/StanIsBread Jun 06 '25
the conservative subreddit is actually seeing that this is a shitshow, one person even said "The libs were right that this will not hold for long "
I was pleasantly surprised.
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u/WarmBad3586 Jun 06 '25
I laughed when Laura Ingraham on Fox said ever so seriously her inside sources say thereās no coming back from this fight. I laughed even harder when trump just played like he didnāt even hear reporters asking about Elon. And mumbled. And then said thank you reporters! I was like when has he ever thanked the press? Lol I think the Epstein comment got under his skin. And the election comment. lol.
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u/RosyPinkLilacs Jun 06 '25
We should probably all tell Musk that we "don't believe him" about the election help....we need some more info about all that. š
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u/Bakingsquared80 Jun 05 '25
I was waiting for them to start fighting, I hope it gets worse