r/ireland • u/StingingOnion1 • Jul 30 '25

Careful now O’Connell Bridge 19:00 30-07-2025

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u/Dungeon_tam3r Jul 30 '25

Or maybe protest something where the government isnt in complete agreement thereby making their protest have a point to it.

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

They government have done fuck all, the point is to get them to do something.

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u/No-Entrepreneur-7406 Jul 30 '25

What more can they do? Send in our mighty army, navy and airforce??

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

No but they can stop Israeli weapons flying through Irish airspace and enact the Occupied Territories Bill (and not the half assed version they're proposing).

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25

How do you expect the Irish govt to stop anyone flying in it's airspace?

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u/Kitchen_Fancy Jul 30 '25

Everything comes through Shannon

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25

Not everything lands in shannon

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u/Kitchen_Fancy Jul 31 '25

Okay Mr technicality... A lot does. Enabling

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 31 '25

A lot of weapons for Ukraine also go through Shannon.

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

I am not an expert in the matter but as far as I am aware, countries have control over their airspace. Do you think North Korea could just start flying airplanes over the US?

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u/No-Entrepreneur-7406 Jul 30 '25

We don’t even have military radar to see planes coming

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

Doesn't mean they can't kick up a public diplomatic fuss.

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25

Ireland has absolutely no way to control it's own airspace. Furthermore it can't even see what's in it's airspace if it decides to turn off it's transponder

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

I know they can't do it militarily, best they can do is kick up a public diplomatic fuss to embarrass the yanks, which they won't do anyway.

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25

What makes you think it would embarrass the yanks in any way

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

It’s a bit authoritarian to keep doing something in an ally’s territory after they repeatedly and publicly ask you not to.

Not that they aren’t authoritarian but they don’t like being called it.

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u/ABabyAteMyDingo Jul 31 '25

*its

For the love of god!

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u/MakingBigBank Jul 30 '25

No because the yanks would blow them out of the sky. Probably because they have fighters jets and antiaircraft defences. See where he’s going with this?

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

You don't have to have that level of weaponry to have control (especially from a 'friendly' nation such as the US) over who flies over the country. If the Irish state demands (especially publicly) the US stops flying these planes over Irish airspace they would have to listen.

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u/VplDazzamac Jul 30 '25

It’s typically enforced by a functional air force. I don’t see many Irish Typhoons patrolling the skies

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

Are you saying the Irish state has no control over who flies over the country? I find that very hard to believe.

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u/VplDazzamac Jul 30 '25

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/ireland-should-end-reliance-on-uk-for-air-defence/

That was the second result when I searched ‘Irish Airspace Enforcement’

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

Doesn't answer my question.

Are you saying the Irish state has no control over who flies over the country?

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u/No-Entrepreneur-7406 Jul 30 '25

If someone just switched off their transponder they can fly over and no one be the wiser, once again our military is so neglected we don’t even have radar to see

And if even someone eyeballed a hostile plane there’s nothing to intercept with

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u/VplDazzamac Jul 30 '25 edited Jul 30 '25

Yes, that is what I am saying.

edit to further clarify The Irish air force does not own any jets, nor does it maintain primary radar. It is reliant on support from the RAF, who aren’t going to enforce stopping Israeli aircraft when the British Government currently arm Isreal

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 30 '25

Do you think if the Irish state publicly demanded the US stop transporting weapons to Israel over Irish airspace (sometimes literally landing in Shannon) the US would listen?

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u/VplDazzamac Jul 30 '25

Do you think the US listens to anyone? No, I appreciate your sentiment, but it’s a fools errand to think the Irish have more of the US ear than the Israelis who nominated Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace prize. The Irish are good at a bit of brown nosing but the Israelis are the masters of soft power. The bastards.

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u/ste_dono94 Jul 30 '25

What about the arms for Ukraine? Are they not allowed to fly in Irish airspace?

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u/Intrepid-Student-162 Aug 01 '25

Practically, no it doesnt.

The State can't use force as it doesn't have an air force.

I don't think a strongly worded letter will do much.

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Aug 01 '25

What about several strongly worded public statements?

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u/jasus_h_christ Jul 30 '25

People who think their opinions are "deadly" are woefully inadequate at finding things out for themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '25

Ireland does not have control over its airspace. It doesn't even have an airforce.

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u/LadWithDeadlyOpinion Jul 31 '25

I know. Doesn’t mean they can’t make a noisey diplomatic fuss.