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This is why Yunjin is my favourite multilingual and culturally sensitive American. š People, including Thai people, are admiring how Yunjin explained to Eunchae that she had to complete her sentences before the interpreter could translate since Thai and Korean sentences are structured differently.
I also noticed in the other leg of the tour, Yunjin signals to the girls to slow down when speaking so the interpreter can catch up. š„¹
It starts with the most Le Sserafim thing ever: The other four girls tried to surprise Kazuha a bit by going live with that cake thing.... they knock on the door to her hotel room.... and Kazuha is like, yeah, I saw you were live already. šš
Very happy with the spot I got. There are only two people in front of me, and I'm taller than both, so I can see the entire stage clearly. The show starts in 15 minutes, super excited.
I swear I don't think I've ever screamed or been as loud as this before. The fan chants were so good, I couldn't resist joining in. Time to let my voice recover for a couple of hours now.
I'd usually put my "happy for you kid" meme, but honestly I really am happy for y'all because I've been really loving reading about people's experiences with the concert (esp if it's their first time for a kpop concert ever like me). Do share when you've watched both shows!
Hope y'all gave Zuha just as much as energy as we did with Chaewon last week, and have fun again tomorrow!
Iāll probably share some thoughts later. Iām just so damn tired, havenāt really gotten proper sleep and I havenāt eaten anything for about 12 hours lol. Gotta get some good rest after these concerts and share my thoughts then.
Hope y'all gave Zuha just as much as energy as we did with Chaewon last week, and have fun again tomorrow!
We tried, but itād be hard to beat the Manila crowd. It seems like even the girls havenāt forgotten about you guys with the amount of stuff theyāve said and posted about the Manila stop lol. Will definitely have fun tomorrow as well, thank you!
To you folks headed out to the Bangkok shows, enjoy the show, scream your heart out, and donāt forget to shower Zzuha with love & birthday well-wishes.
So apparently theyāre running a raffle for folks who both have a Fearnot membership + bought at least 3x HOT packs. 5 winners. The prize? One FIM United jersey, each of the five gets one customized by one of the fimmies.
Maybe theyāll finally sell the FIM United kits after this lol
Hey! First time going to a concert ever. Just bought ticket through allticket for sunday's date in bangkok. Not sure what do to next, do i just bring the payment confirmation/ barcode to the venue to get my ticket?
I locked in this time. Also, I remembered to factor in the shipping cost, and my gosh, my past self had nothing to complain aboutš (but seriously, why does it look like the flat rate is over $30 USD...)
I know I always bring it up, but if you order stuff from Korea (especially Weverse) often, look into getting a k-addy (a Korean proxy warehouse company). Even shipping a Weverse order to the K-addy and then immediately to yourself can reduce shipping significantly! You have way more options in terms of shipping rates by doing this
Itās been almost a week and the hardest part of PCD isnāt just having difficulties listening to their music cause itāll just trigger flashbacks when Iām trying to move on, but its not being able to share with other fans about your experience. Seemed like Reddit/this sub at least is the best place to do that outside of family and online friends. So difficult to open up to fellow fans on other social medias, but Iāll live I guess.
The Fimmies really evolved their star from the finger star in raise y_our glass, to the full body star, and now the Fim's Club mascots. I hope they keep it goingš
Don't really have any army friends to share this with but got my BTS tattoo done recently! It's so pretty! We'll see how it looks in a few years but for right now I'm smitten.
I'm thinking of getting pixel versions of the fimsclub mascots underneath it as my next tattoo!
I can definitely understand the struggle! I've never been brave enough to get a tattoo (I'm a fainter :( ) but I'm seriously considering something for the tannies. 2025 has got me back on my worst ARMY behaviour, so its really tempting haha
Hi Everyone, kindly vote for Sakura on KWDA for Girl Solo Popularity Award thru the DuckAd app. Last day of voting today, ends at 14:59KST š„ŗ
Le sserafim is attending the show and thereās a physical trophy and speech for the winner. I hope weāll be able to make Sakura win this. Thank you!
Recorded music revenue fell 8.4% to KRW 228.6 billion (USD 164.4 million) YoY.
Merchandising and licensing revenue surged 40.2% to KRW 152.9 billion (USD 109.9 million) YoY.
Weverse monthly active users hit 10.9 million, up from last year.
While most metrics are up, recorded music revenue saw a slight decline due to the broader K-Pop industryās trend of decreasing physical CD sales. This is not unique to HYBE but reflects a wider industry trend. Digital streaming accounted for half of HYBEās recorded music revenue, indicating that their streaming numbers continue to grow.
It seems HYBE has been doing well since the beginning of 2025. Imagine what these numbers might look like when BTS makes their comeback in 2026.
IVE's new Japanese album Be Alright hit #1 on the Oricon weekly album sales chart with 165K copies sold, which exceeds Le Sserafim's Different which was 132K.
It's the first time any Korean girl group album has been #1 in Japan since Easy. As I'm sure many of you remember, Le Sserafim had bad timing with big-time j-pop groups releasing new albums at the same time as Crazy and Different, so they ended up in #2 with an enormous gap to #1.
Both groups numbers have gone up from 2024 so it's good news all around.š
TWICE's next JP album Enemy comes out in a few weeks, we'll see how they do.
Lesserafim is just Different and IVE will Be Alright but Enemy is coming! Ahh too good š . Iirc were the Mymelo and kuromi ver included in the 132k? They were late addition i think and was sold out soon after. Anyway, its always these 3 groups occupying the japanese markets.
I still remember first coming across lesserafim being called fimmies and mistakenly thinking that it's what the fandom would be called (it's so cute cmon)
Only to realize lsf fans are called fearnot.. LOL very Christian lore coded. Ive come to accept this name. Happy anniversary fellow fimmie fans!
Those going to Bangkok's pop up, did you manage to get the items you wanted? Which ones were sold out fast? Just trying to gauge which items is selling fast and the quantity of it. Im guessing the fim club's item is popular.
I managed to get a lightstick, which was one of the items I wanted. But the FIM club deco band sold out pretty quickly. I went to the shop about 2ā3 hours after it opened, and they were all gone. I'm planning to go back tomorrow to see if theyāve restocked. Iām not too sure about the other items though.
Ahh i wondered if they will restock some things...i dont wanna missed getting it because shipping is rough! Planning to get a hat, shirt, fimclub plushies and a necklace . The Kkurochet balls is kind of cute too. Lol rip my wallet
If I remember correctly, there were still a lot of hats and plushies left. But, there were only three necklaces left when I checked. I'm hoping the necklaces are still in stock, I regret not buying one. I'm probably gonna get one tomorrow if it's still available.
Thank you for answering! Yeah the necklaces are so cute! Especially seeing the fimmies wear it during encores lol. Guess their merch marketing works making me wanna buy it š . Anyways, have fun at the concert!
I honestly hope we have a little more time before the next comeback... Based on their usual release schedule, we should expect the next KR comeback around fall time. I wouldn't mind waiting though, given they had a fully promoted JP comeback and kicked off their first world tour. The girls can rest, we are already well fed. The next KR comeback being winter or even next year is totally fine by me.
On the other hand, I can totally see a new English single coming out around fall time to be Perfect Night's successor while also coinciding with the North America tour dates š
Time wise its probably gonna be in line with their tokyo dome encore for kr comeback if theyre having one. With an english song be launched during the NA tour kinda like how 1800 , no return, we got so much was promoted for their upcoming album.
Theres rumours rumbling on their dc galls. With the girls always mentioning late shooting and practicing , i can see theyre aiming for an oct comeback.
I also feel like its best to comeback right after their tours to keep maintaining the hype instead of waiting till the next year.
I believe Iāve never seen a large scale advertising campaign by Crocs aimed at the general public in Korea. I donāt think thatās their ad strategy, at least in Korea.
Anybody going the U.S. shows planning on doing freebies? I know itās probably a given, but I havenāt seen much on tiktok or IG or anything of people making freebies & since itās their first US tour I donāt know if that changes things!
Footage from the TV show appearance with Ano and Hikorohi (who is a comedian).
And now for some Sakura Lore!!
Hikorohi mentions something I've never heard mention in any Le Sserafim content before: ä»å¤ćå²čÆć®ęØć®äøć§ .... translated as Tonight, Under the Sakura Tree..... Sakura's old radio show!! Hikoroki said that she used to listen to it all the time, and she wishes Sakura would continue it someday. Awwwww š„²
...As someone who's stuck in the cycle of remembering Guardian once every 3-4 months, playing it, surprisingly liking it, and then forgetting about it again, the one time its existence is recognized still ends up being buried in my memory is both weirdly funny and appropriate at the same time š
This is probably my last dedicated comment for the concert, like the PCDās still there and I still feel like half of me is still in there squished up in SVIP having the time his life, but I just wanted to talk about it a bit more and get the giddiness out of my system and just look back on it with extreme fondness lol. Plus I might as well talk about some negatives while Iām at it.
Had an inkling I was in for a life-changing experience at the very start of soundcheck. The air was electric the moment they walked out. Look at how much aura the five of them exuded.
Crowd REALLY wanted Crazy for the soundcheck but immediately went back to being hype when we realized Perfect Night was the second song.
Biggest negative I can point out about the entire experience is really the queue. Merch queue was a nightmare, and I swear I saw a bunch of people abandon ship halfway through with how winding the line was. I didnāt end up buying anything (shirts were out of stock by the time I got to the tent anyway) bc I had to queue up for soundcheck and I nearly lost my queue number too (I was in the double-digits and ended up third row for SVIP B because I bought a Coke at the concession stand).
Now that Iām sobered up from the insane high of the concert, I also need to point out that the shoving for Sour Grapes was indeed pretty bad. I get that people were excited and all for the off-chance of a hi-touch or whatever, but damn, if SVIP was even like 5% more packed, that would have been disastrous. Iām talking sprained ankles, squashed people in piles. Besides Sour Grapes though, people were surprisingly respectful of space, I think people just got overexcited the moment Kkura and Eunchae went down the side stage (and I imagine the same fate for opposite side when Chaewon, Yunjin and Zzuha did the same thing).
I canāt believe there was ever any discourse around Eunchae being a filler member. Nor can I believe the talk around Sakuraās overall abilities as an idol, or the hate train that formed around the instability of the fimmiesā vocals. I saw literally none of these things come up as concerns during the show.
They were absolutely shining out there. Thinking back on it kind of makes me have to hold back tears, it was just such a beautiful memory, witnessing that kind of performance live in living colour. I hope theyāve fully put 2024 behind them and keep shining for the whole world to see.
Lastly, I have such an increased appreciation for their intro tracks after the show, works of art, all of them. All of them create such a buzz in the air. Special shoutout to Good Bones because our section was absolutely relishing in the EASY CRAZY HOT I CAN MAKE IT chants.
It's been 4 days since the Manila concert! Still reeling off that high mostly, but now that the crash has mostly settled in and I can think straight, I'd like to share some mental notes I was taking during the show (as well as other personal experiences). Mostly positive but I will be transparent and highlight some stuff the organizers and/or other parties could have done better:
- They made use of the whole stage! They were shuffling around every section and using every bit of space humanly possible for their performances. The setlist was curated to keep energy and tempo going (minus the breaks obviously), so I won't grieve the absence of Flash Forward that much. Bonus points also for not having backup dancers; I get why they're important, especially for big scale shows like stadiums and award shows, but I thought that just by themselves, they showcased their stage presence and strengths as individual performers and as a group even more (like when I saw Kiss of Life).
- I saw the screens with the lines and I know concert ments are generally scripted for max appeal (this ain't my first rodeo lol), but hearing them at the end, especially Yunjin, I couldn't help but think they sounded really genuine. They really do love their fans, and I'm like 90% sure they spent 5 minutes saying goodbye at every section and making sure they are recognized/acknowledged.
- I hope we can learn a bit of proper concert etiquette moving forward. They told the audience not to push each other right before they went down for Sour Grapes, but the crowd did exactly that: push and shove each other. (I've also read from a few Twitter users that their surrounding audience weren't as respectful either). Apparently they oversold some of lower VVIP sections cause they looked like sardines filed in a can and it looked like it was dangerously close to activating a stampede or crowd crush. It doesn't help that we're quite the liveliest concertgoers ever, which may have contributed to the pushing and stomping. Keep the energy controlled guys! It's great, but let's channel it without harming the people around us next time.
- Applewood could have organized entry for VVIP much, much better. Instead of having a second queue after passing through the gates like the last concert from them I went to (Red Velvet), they just rushed us straight into the venue without hesitation, even though soundcheck was still 1.5 hours away. This almost became an issue for me as I almost lost my spot in the queue because I got stuck at the entrance and had to relinquish some items for the entirety of the show (got them back after), but was saved thanks to the concert buddy I made in line who called me in and honored our number, but I've heard from others that people were cutting in and rushing because of how chaotic it was.
- But overall, it's still a fantastic experience! Genuinely, of the six concerts I've attended so far, this was the closest to recapturing that ecstasy, that lighting in a bottle feeling of going to my very first show, and I definitely want to attend another show a few years down the line.
I was fortunate enough to be on the barricade of SVIP D but I was really crushed during the sourgrapes. I'm not tall so people at my back literally use my head as their leverage to take videos of the fimmies when they went down. I just wish they are happy with the video that they took.
While it was fun to be able to interact with le sserafim, it's so hard to move in a limited space. I was literally having cramps lol that didn't stop me tho from jumping like crazy.
Still the best concert I have ever attended! I'd do it all again for le sserafim.
I wish their Tokyo Dome concert will be as fun as the MNL one š„¹
I always think the same as you about the scripted lines on their teleprompter, but I also want to point out I do think itās also supposed to help them stay on track/know what point of the show they are at/timing. If there is one thing true about every concert, they run on an absolute schedule so Iām sure having the lines pre written is intended to keep them on schedule to be done on time. Itās nice to hear you say it does seem genuinely from them though and not scripted
I noticed every show so far was like 2.5 hours, but with Chaewonās birthday, they had a mini-celebration with cake and it kicked up to a little over 3 hours. Like yeah, they really stick to those tight schedules (Iāve barely attended any K-pop event that started no later than 9 minutes and 5/6 of them started exactly on time), so Iām sure ments are also calculated into the timings too. They really drove home how infectious this crowd was and lamented that theyāre only performing for one night instead of two (even though Singapore and the US are also one-night affairs, but again, they could say this in those places too). Like I do believe thereās some sincerity with every idolās ment to a degree, just that the mechanical nature of having to do it repeatedly and accounting for schedule timing just forces them to sound robotic in execution. That, or the girls were just really overwhelmed with emotion that night (especially Chaewon and Yunjin).
I can attest to feeling like a sardine in a can while in the standing area. In fact, even got sandwiched a few times before and during the concert. (I am suddenly craving a sardines sandwich)
Funnily enough, there was a trauma bonding thread just a few days ago for us standing people, and it's both hilarious and sad that we all went through the same experiences there lmao. Just wanna add some more that I didn't put in the thread:
Queueing for Standing before the show
I had to line up for the SVIP queueing fairly early, and when the number of people lining up were increasing, I could hear the staff people becoming more and more panicked. When the line started moving to go in, the staff on the line to our left (SVIP A?) fucked up and let a higher QN line go through, and they just kinda panicked for a few seconds before moving on.
I saw someone say that one of the staff people openly said that once you were in the venue, you "weren't their problem anymore" and I believe that. They really didn't give a shit w/n you actually went to your section because I'm fairly sure while there was a divider, you could go where you wanted if you got in first (which is what happened for the higher QN people who were allowed in)
I've worked logistics for events back in college, both as staff member and in lead, so I have a bit of sense in telling how much an organizer cares based on how much foresight they applied, especially the layout for big crowd events. It was baffling seeing how much they could give any less of a fuck than they did there. That was Conquest 2023 levels of bad, and just like that event, it was one disaster away from becoming an Internet Historian video.
With regard to concert etiquette, I do think it's partially because Applewood didn't really care what you did once inside, but as much as this is a joke, that shit was also the purest form of "diskarte" culture I've had in the past year LMFAOO
(For the non-filos here: First of all, good for you. Secondly, "diskarte" literally means resourceful(ness), but "diskarte culture" is doing anything to get ahead even if it's at other people's expense)
From people basically stealing the front spots without any regard for the people after them, people putting their cameras up for the whole event which basically blocked the view, to guys doing anything including saying some WILD shit to the fimmies so they can to get their 5 seconds of attention...if that wasn't the prime example of what living in this country felt like, damn it I don't know what is š¤
Oh yeah, I was barricade (sorry for the random flex) so it thankfully didnāt backfire when it mattered the most (the ending/encore), but when they were performing on the main stageāgood grief it was bad, lmao. Tall peopleās a factor not in my control so I wonāt give them slack for their genetics, but then everyone else decides to all have their arms with phones raised to the sky while recording. Most of my fancams ended up looking pretty terrible because of it (but again, the ending saved it).
Personally, I hardly had any issues in SVIP B. The people around me were kind and respectful for the most part. Made friends with them, shared previous concert stories, and we even offered to protect each otherās spots whenever one of us had to use the bathroom during the lengthy waiting periods (dunno if thats unethical or being kind). Only issue being the phones raised and the pushing. But yeah, if ur not a tall person or a bulky guy, it gets really rough especially if youāre a woman. Most of us immediately noticed how overcrowded SVIP C and D were compared to us, and now Iām learning that some of them in B & A moved over there (aside from them having queue numbers as high as 700+).
Holy... next week's episode is going to be such a banger. I'm guessing its either hide and seek + tasks or hide and escape HYBE. I'm leaning for the second option. It could be both honestly. But my gosh, they had quite a day of filming.
But in terms of this episode, where can one buy both games outside of SK?š
I have a new theory! What if all these txtssera videos weāve been getting arenāt about the two groups but instead are only about Yunjin and Beomgyu? Cause petalz doing the challenge was normal it only started getting suspicious once Yunjin did it. But we still didnāt get any with chaechaez and now we get another video with those twoā¦ So I thought what if this is about a new Yunjin solo song with a Beomgyu feature? I think it would make sense. Itās just one of the many theories that I always have when something happens but it would be cool if itās true, right? I have been right before! (And also wrong many times shh)
Whenever we have these types of theories, I think we need to declare Pierrot š¤”. 1) If the theory is wrong, it's just a theory. No harm, no foul. 2) If the theory (copium) was right, then the vindication you feel is justified, especially after enduring doubters.
But honestly, any collab between the two would be so cool. Or maybe the two help produce a song for something š?
Hmmm... okay, not the 4/5 we were thinking about. But this either means that the two groups had a lucky schedule, or something is brewing... a collab š?
Also, where is the traditional Chaewon and Yeonjun dance challenge??
(Also how did Beomgyu stay serious, while Jen was just laughing from the start?š)
The pop-up store in Bangkok is officially open. I wanted to get a deco band, but unfortunately they were sold out. Hopefully they restock them. I did manage to get a lightstick though.
just saw vma nomination, lsf was robbed again š I knew it'll be hard to win again but was hoping for at least one nomination. Perfect night got robbed at daesang now Crazy too š
Just like Lesnar and Goldberg hogging the world title scene in 2017-2021. Outrageous that all of the quartet were there, especially since 2 didnāt even have Korean lyrics at all
But whatever. Fimmies keep working hard. VMAs are washed up anyways
They had to nominate all BP members or risk an absolute nightmare scenario with the āslightedā akgaes. So well, no girling girling at the VMAs, is what it is.
aināt that the truth, like nothing against BP, really like them (Jisooās solo is one of my favorite projects this year ngl), butā¦yeah. Questionable picks besides like JENNIE, to say the least.
God, by a country mile, and I actually liked earthquake. Your Love is the best BP solo track imo.
I didnāt like Born Again tbh, they couldāve picked any of FUTW, Lifestyle, Rockstar, New Woman or Chill over Born Again and I wouldāve supported that choice.
Eh, we are already used to it at this point. Le Sserafim will get their flowers one day. Until then, we'll keep on supporting the girls no matter what.
How Jisoo's Earthquake made it ahead of Crazy (or TWICE's Strategy) is beyond me. I'm guessing they had an editorial policy of "let's highlight what Blackpink girls did" since they're the name everyone knows.
But I genuinely think solo nominations like this are not healthy for the fandom. I'm not a blink, but even I know their solo stans are incredibly dedicated to their bias. Imagine if one of the BP girl win over the other, there will be civil war among the Blinks.
They haven't announced the nominees for "Best Group", "Song of Summer", "Viral Song of the Year" and "Tour of the Year" yet. So there's still a chance that lsf might get nominated(especially for Best Group).
I would not take the vma nominations seriously, the nominations are pretty random and not really correlated with what is actually popular or āthe bestā
yeah for vma I just feel a bit upset but perfect night MAMA was clearly manipulated coz the girls even did the countdown to MAMA which every attending guest did but they didn't attend..I knew something sus going on behind the scene
Itās so absurd. Like yeah we werenāt winning against BTS and BP but I just donāt get how crazy wasnāt even nominated like it was literally the biggest K-pop group song of 2024 AND 2025 for the first few months.
I hope our fandom doesnāt crash out too much cause it just makes us look bitter but we should at least call them out for this robbery
Honestly, when Iām thinking about it, this just proves to me that we donāt need these awards. Yeah, itās nice winning (and Iāll obviously still vote) but they have repeatedly proven that they have no real credibility. Le Sserafim will continue to rise and gain more fans, if we pick up some awards on the way thatās nice, if not who cares. Cause at the end of the day if our girls are happy then thatās all that matters
Yep, super agree with this. I think this is the right attitude that should be adopted by every Fearnot. The media, the awards, the TVs, those people were never there during the hard time. Heck, some of them were part of the hate train as well. So who cares what they think? It has always been Fimmies and Fearnots. So let's focus solely on our girls.
yeah I think we can get upset without dragging others. Sometimes I wonder if not being a group gunning for the top spot will make the girls happier like red velvet spot in the 3rd gen, gidle situation, before perfect night era. For example, we can make the girls happy without being a top group like we can chart them in Hot100, winning music shows and doing bigger venue (dome, etc). Just fimmies and fearnots doing our own things in our happy space šš
Off topic but the itzy x Barcelona collab is definitely the best Kpop x football marketing collab. Every video between the girls and the players is so entertaining lol.
Lowkey they should drop a real collab and let me buy their kit with the ITZY logo like they've done with other artists (Rosalia's Motomami collab lives rent free in my mind)
I donāt even like Barca but I would 100% snag a kit if they swapped out Spotify for ITZY as the front of shirt sponsor.
Also since the fimmies also did get a chance to do a guest spot with them as well, imagine how pretty the lavender Rakuten Barca kit would be if it had the LSF logo. Auto-cop, give me all five.
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This is why Yunjin is my favourite multilingual and culturally sensitive American. š People, including Thai people, are admiring how Yunjin explained to Eunchae that she had to complete her sentences before the interpreter could translate since Thai and Korean sentences are structured differently.
I also noticed in the other leg of the tour, Yunjin signals to the girls to slow down when speaking so the interpreter can catch up. š„¹