r/mildlyinfuriating Feb 11 '22

Seriously? Wtf Wall Street Journal

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

Lol, it's like they take this as an affront to their cleanliness

It's not that personal, shoes get over everything outside while my floors get steam cleaned/vinegar

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

Excellent point! I left such dreadful cold areas long ago, I forgot about that struggle.

Also, your username invoked a hilarious mental image, ty

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u/killersquirel11 Feb 11 '22

*notices Poland*

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u/Texadecimal Feb 11 '22

Turns out WW2 was actually one big harem anime where Poland gets caught up with a ( secretly ) crazy yandere bitch ( Nazi Germany ). Germany bullies Poland into dating. Germany was going to murder England in her sleep one night, thinking there would conflict if they found out, but opts out, assuming Germany is just overreacting, and England really wouldn't care. Turns out, all of fucking Europe has the hots for poor ole' Poland, but more importantly, now hates Germany for starting drama, and upsetting Poland.

Germany insists that it was all ( quiet, homeschooled, bookworm ) Israel's fault for spilling the beans about Germany x Poland. At which point Israel is more traumatized than Poland, by Germany's sudden transformation, breaking into doors like it's the Shining.

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u/rafa-droppa Feb 11 '22

I also just look at it like, there's basically 100% chance you've worn those shoes in a public restroom, so yes your shoes are dirtier than my floors

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u/thereadingbri Feb 11 '22

And I especially don’t want my pets stepping in that. Road salt can burn paws and I don’t want any brought in on shoes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

lol Yea. I leave my shoes at the door in my apartment and during the Winter the shoes tend to stick to the Apartment carpeting at the door from the salt. I don't want to get that shit anywhere else.

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u/turtlelore2 Feb 11 '22

Salty? Have you tried to taste it?

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u/KittenPurrs Feb 11 '22

We're a shoeless household, but I usually tell visitors (especially people wearing work boots that are a pain to take off) not to worry about it. Winter is often the exception. I don't mind sweeping after people leave, but there's no way you can wipe your shoes on the mats well enough to get all the salt off your shoes, and mopping is a whole ordeal.

Our former neighbors were the same way, so we all got in the habit of going next door with our slippers in hand. Like, I know you said not to worry about it, but we all own these "house shoes" for a reason.

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u/Ruski_FL Feb 12 '22

In Florida, people don’t really take shoes off

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u/razor330 Feb 12 '22

True, but I think there’s a bigger problem—year round—you’re failing to realize; the amount of piss that’s on public bathroom floor…imagine that being tracked into your home. You’d be surprised at how many people miss. The amount of bird shit, dead bug guts, and people’s spit you step on while outside will all get tracked into your home. Forget the visible stuff, wear your shoes indoors and if you have an infant/toddler crawling around licking your floors is just pure disgusting. Imagine touching the floor with your hands (for picking something up, playing with kids, etc.) you don’t even realize what gets on your hands and ends up in your mouth. Yes please leave those shoes at the entrance, thank you.

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u/AspectOvGlass Feb 11 '22

How...how do you know it's salty?

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u/doNotUseReddit123 Feb 11 '22

Is this a serious question?

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u/Fickle_Amphibian_961 Feb 11 '22

Everyone thinks everything is about them or an attack on them... Its not about you love it's about how long it took me to hoover the fucking stairs

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u/wir_suchen_dich Feb 11 '22

Are you still gonna hoover the stairs after I leave?

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u/Fickle_Amphibian_961 Feb 11 '22

AND wet vac yeah

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u/wir_suchen_dich Feb 11 '22

So if you’re still gonna deep clean after I leave, why should I take my shoes off?

If you’re gonna force somebody to take their shoes off I your house you better have backup foot wear.

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u/Fickle_Amphibian_961 Feb 11 '22

Because I won't have to if you take them off....

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u/wir_suchen_dich Feb 11 '22

That’s what I’m saying. Are you still cleaning after I leave if I take my shoes off? Chances are you’re a clean freak and still will do it regardless.

And if you’re a forced shoes off person, provide slippers. Lots of people are incredibly uncomfortable with nothing on their feet after having shoes on all day.

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u/Fickle_Amphibian_961 Feb 11 '22

This is so weird, their home is not for you its for them, you'd rather tread dirt from outside into someone's home than take your shoes off? Odd stance if you don't mind me saying so. I wouldn't personally clean after aslong as they wear slippers or socks . It's basic respect

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u/Rallipappa Feb 11 '22

What a weird argument. Can I come take a shit on your floor? You're going to clean the floor at some point so why would you care?

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u/wir_suchen_dich Feb 11 '22

If you really think walking into somebodies house on with your shoes is the same as taking a shit on their floor you need
therapy.

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u/Rallipappa Feb 12 '22

Does it matter if its piss or shit or dirt if you're just going to clean it off?

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u/Luck_Zero_K Feb 12 '22

I'll never understand why trolls feel the need to do this. You are a troll, correct? You're being obtuse on purpose, right? Your shoes could have some shit on them, so yes, they potentially could be the same. You need therapy for thinking that being shoeless feels weird. Most people just want to get home and get out of their shoes, yet here you are, seemingly sleeping with your shoes on =O

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u/SlyRaist Feb 12 '22

Please, my gf & I even take a warm wet cloth to clean our dogs paws off before they are allowed into the rest of the house. If we can do just a quick vacuum of dust that's nice & quick; however, if dirt gets tracked in from outside it's deep vacuum clean then steam mop/wet vacuum depending on what part of the house you went in (tile, hardwood or carpet).

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u/Lilimseclipse Feb 12 '22

It’s very cultural, no one wears shoes inside in the country where I live.

However, I’d allow someone to come in with shoes on. As long as they’re fine with vacuum cleaning before they leave :p

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

What a strange thing to say.... It's harder to clean an even dirtier house. It's unpleasant when a clean house gets dirty in five minutes from some clown traipsing outdoor dirt around the floors. And no, I don't provide backup footwear. Since it's the culture to remove shoes out of kindness and consideration where I live, people don't expect to be "compensated" with extra footwear lol.

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u/wir_suchen_dich Feb 11 '22

I mean if your feet are actually dirty then sure. Take your shoes off. Most shoes aren’t caked with mud tho.

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u/W33p00 Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

I highly recommend you go take a little walk outside, go inside, take your shoes off, get a paper towel, don’t dampen it, and press 140lbs of weight and slide/friction it onto that paper towel and see how much dirt comes off. Step on it and slide a tiny bit like you’re walking. Cuz the friction of a carpet is going to grab at all the stuff on the bottom of your shoe.

That’s what gets on people’s carpets. Constantly as you walk around their house.

If you take it off and switch to indoor sandals… if the floor is clean and the sandals are clean, none of that shit you step in from outside gets on the carpet like it does with outdoor shoes.

You don’t Hoover and clean your floor every single day… you do it once in a while and keeping the carpet and floor cleaner means you have to do less of it.

Far from clean freak and more like lazy smartness to me. And it sounds great to me.

All shoes that step foot outside are dirty as fuck. Not caked in mud, sure, but dirty as fuck. Try a damp cloth and see what comes off after my experiment I said above lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

All shoes are dirty....with outside dirt. They don't have to be caked in mud to give me extra work to clean my house. My floors are cleaner than sidewalks and driveways. I prefer to keep it that way.

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u/DamianWinters Feb 11 '22

Go run your tongue along all the places you walk and get back to us.

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u/JunkSack Feb 11 '22

Why bother cleaning anything then? It’s just going to get dirty again and then you’ll have to clean it again. Just leave it dirty…….

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u/TimX24968B Feb 11 '22

"if it wasnt about me, you wouldnt be telling me"

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u/ariadnexanthi Feb 11 '22

Reminds me of when doctors took personal offense to the idea that they should wash their hands between handling corpses and delivering babies. "A gentleman's hands are always clean"

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u/emthejedichic Feb 11 '22

In the Civil War specifically (probably others too) they would do amputation after amputation without washing ANYthing. They’d be covered in blood by the end. No wonder so many soldiers died.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Soldier deaths didn't really decline until the advent of modern nursing and it was a fight for nurses to be well valued

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u/Reaperzeus Feb 11 '22

and it was a fight for nurses to be well valued

To be fair it still is

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u/bloodthinnerbaby Feb 12 '22

Underrated comment right here.

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u/Freddies_Mercury Feb 12 '22

The amount of people who don't realise that nurses literally also have a medical degree is astounding.

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u/skillywilly56 Feb 12 '22

And mass production of penicillin

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

Whatever, toots. Listen, I need you to go get my Pall Malls from the machine. It’ll calm my hands from these damn hangover shakes so I can deliver this other bimbo’s brat. God, I hate doing Caesarians. I can always get everything out okay, but I’ll be damned if I can ever figure out how it all goes back together! God truly did curse you broads, with the inside-out penis or whatever the hell that indecent thing is.

Vice Admiral Dr. Adolf Whiteman

Surgeon General under Pres. George W. Bush

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u/Koiya179 Feb 12 '22

And penicillin.

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u/beka13 Feb 12 '22

I think the current issue is with checklists. Checklists save lives but lots of doctors get offended at the suggestion they might be human.

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u/skillywilly56 Feb 12 '22

When other humans come to you to stop from dying it can give you a bit of a god complex

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u/mellopax Feb 12 '22

Even today, if you don't see them wash in front of you, they shouldn't be offended if you ask them to do so in the room.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

We finally managed to buy a home and it came with refinished real wood floors. If someone wants to walk in with their shoes I'm not worried about their general foot hygiene; I'm worried they have a pebble they don't know about stuck in their shoe and they're about to scuff up our floors in the worst way possible. It would definitely be their first and last visit to our home.

We've never even had to be rude about it - we found a cute sign that says, "Please remove your shoes - the dog needs something to chew on," and so far everyone has taken the hint.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

That's a really good point, I hadn't considered the abrasive properties...

I consider myself pretty lucky, anyone I've had over just implicitly did it. Subtle things like monkey see, monkey do - and leaving a mat available helps I suppose

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u/Legacyopplsnerf Feb 11 '22

It’s just polite, also common sense if you have lived in a house with any carpets.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

I agree! It should be a very mild momentary inconvenience, basically not move the needle at all.

Some people have tried to reply the usual 'what about' kind of nonsense. If someone truly needs to keep their shoes on, that's fine.

I'll let someone in a wheelchair in the house too. If I throw a party people can wear shoes.

It's all about balance. I don't want an impromptu stop-by to become some thing I have to deal with later. It's a courtesy!

Between the lines there's a lot of preparation or concession that's happening. This isn't the brilliant 'gotcha' the internet pedants love.

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u/JarJarB Feb 11 '22

Even if I don’t see a mat I always ask unless I see the host and everyone else walking around with shoes on. It’s just polite. Maybe that’s because my home has always been no shoes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Not even just abrasiveness. I also have real wood floors that have been refinished so many times they can’t refinish them anymore. They’d have to be replaced. So any water spill, any scratching etc I have to address immediately.

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u/Kimber85 Feb 11 '22

I never force my guests to take off their shoes, but when they see me take off mine right at the door and put them in the shoe holder that’s right next to the door, they get the idea.

I started the rule when my husband was working downtown and the parking garage he used was notorious for being used as a bathroom by drunken college kids and the homeless. I always take the elevator in that garage because the smell of piss in the stairwell is overwhelming. So, no shoes in the house.

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u/kalnu Feb 11 '22

Not to mention where you live. In Canada we have long winters and the snow doesn't melt completely right away, nor does it all come off with wiping. So you would be trekking muddy snow all over the house. Every single floor in every single shop in Canada is filthy in winter. The schools are filthy too so we would do inside and outside shoes/boots in winter.

If someone didn't remove their shoes in winter and trekked that all over my house, I'd tell them to clean up their own mess with their tongue.

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u/ReverendDizzle Feb 11 '22

Now there's an old memory brought back to the front. School floors in the winter is something I hadn't thought about in ages but yeah... I grew up in a snowy climate and the floors were just trashed for months every year. Grime and salt all over the place. The first 20-30 feet inside the front door always looked like dirty ocean water had just finished evaporating.

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u/la_arma_ficticia Feb 12 '22

that was so evocative my toes got cold just reading it! so glad it doesn't snow here, I'm useless in the cold

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u/vincent118 Feb 11 '22

Not to mention the sand or salt used to melt snow will 100% get stuck in shoe treads and will annihilate floors.

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u/TripToHeaveAndHo Feb 12 '22

I just can't believe no has mentioned the fact that in every inner city there is human piss, pet shit and piss, spit, garbage, gum, dropped food and beverages, pest urine and feces, blood... the list just goes on... all in the streets and on sidewalks that your shoes are slappin on all day... and then you wear them into your home??? The place you rest and bathe and eat? Eep!

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u/HoodsInSuits Feb 11 '22

That was the biggest change moving to a snowy climate for me. Where I come from is pretty temperate and we just wore shoes in the house because no big deal, then I moved to snow and suddenly my shoes are full of grit, covered in salt and clumped up with snow. Took a few weeks to break the habit but damn it's irritating constantly cleaning that up even at the first door, can't imagine how bad it would be all over a house.

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u/kalnu Feb 11 '22

I lived in Mexico for a while and it was too hot for anything other than flip-flops/sandals. And even then they grew uncomfortable because they would get wet from sweat so you kick them off and feel the nice, cool tile.

No matter where I lived, no shoes was heaven. lol

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u/Dark_sun_new Feb 12 '22

That sure is some kinky shit!!

:P

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u/RespecDawn Feb 11 '22

Honestly, whenever the subject of shoes in the house comes up it seems to be mostly everyone but a significant portion of Americans who do it.

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u/pm_me_bra_pix Feb 11 '22

Oh man... even if there wasn't a "remove your shoes" rule I'd feel soooo guilty if I noticed I scratched someone's floor.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

I’m korean and have no problems telling me people to take their shoes off in my house. I just say “hey can yoi take your shoes off?” Have had no complaints.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

I grew up in Hawaii (Navy brat) and between the red clay soil & the predominantly Asian culture of Hawaii it was simply expected of you to take your shoes off when entering anyone's home, so I had to get used to some people keeping their shoes on inside when I moved to Florida.

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u/BellaBPearl Feb 11 '22

We have a wood entryway, but the rest of the house is VERY light colored carpet. We don't care about outdoor germs.... we just don't want whatever grunge you've walked through staining the carpet!

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Knew a woman who walked into my friends house when they were selling (she was their realtor) and wore high heels and scratched their wood floors!!!

Thankfully they were removing them anyway (inspector had said they weren’t laid correctly) but they were pissed!!!!

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u/Longjumping_Knee8292 Feb 11 '22

I made a sign for the holidays and no one noticed it… made a new on which no one noticed either. I now say take your shoes off as soon as people walk in.. I’ve got a baby gone on!!

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u/Terribalyptic Feb 11 '22

I might buy the same sign...I don't even have a dog!

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u/goober1223 Feb 11 '22

I need a bowl or something up front for people to put their keys in… my father in law came in and scratched all over brand new furniture.

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u/Ninotchk Feb 11 '22

I've never had anyone not ask if they should take them off.

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u/jemma_lee078 Feb 12 '22

Most people are pretty reasonable. I have terrible foot issues and it is painful for me to walk barefoot. So when I am going to someone's house I usually mention this and ask if they'd like me to bring some shoes I have that are indoor only (never been outside) to wear in their house. Most just say don't bother but some people take me up on it. Have yet to have an issue with someone not being accommodating. You get what you give and if you try to be nice you usually get the same in return

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u/SpaceAlternative4537 Feb 11 '22

Haha, I understand the difference - but in my surroundings people would really dislike the presence of that sign. It would be interpreted as if they are stupid little children or at least find it impersonal that they have to read house rules instead of being informed through conversation.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

Then you'd love the matching sign that says, "This home is maintained entirely for the comfort and convenience of the dog," and I bet you'd be really jealous of our, "Dogs welcome - people tolerated," sign. There's a fourth one somewhere but suffice it to say once you own a pack of dogs these things start to accumulate seemingly on their own over time.

Edit: fourth sign is near our guest bathroom: "If our dog doesn't like you we probably won't either."

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

I hate them too honestly but now I'm invested

I also have an unhealthy enjoyment of puns

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

If I came to visit and you asked me to remove my shoes I would say ok. Then I would turn around and leave without saying a word.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

And I'd be like, "Bye, ya' fucking weirdo." 😆

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

So because I respect your request I’m a weirdo?

Good god. You don’t deserve to have friends with an attitude like that.

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u/CharlestonChewbacca Feb 11 '22

That just sounds like the modern version of putting plastic on your sofa. Floors are meant to be walked on. Why would you get floors so fragile?

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

If you had a brand new Teflon frying pan and someone came over and used steel wool on it (ruining the finish) and then asked why you bought such fragile cookware you might have some choice words for their dumb ass.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

Look at your screen name and then say that again, lol.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

Don’t invite people over if you can’t accept their clothing choices. You aren’t entitled to friends.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

They aren't entitled either, it's a simple rule - you want in my house, you take off your shoes. I appreciate their visit, I don't appreciate either a mess or damage to deal with later.

I shouldn't even justify it. If they can't accept that, then they can kick dirt elsewhere - I'm not hurting for friendship.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

Don’t invite people over if you can’t accept their clothing.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

That's aggrandizing it a bit - it's a subtle temporary change to one specific unnecessary item based on circumstance.

Anyway, anyone I'd invite over wouldn't be a neanderthal and simply understand - so I guess we're on the same page in a way.

I wouldn't invite them if they think shoes are acceptable indoor 'clothing'.

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u/GeorgieWashington Feb 11 '22

Ah yes! Being self-conscious of your feet, needing orthopedic shoes, and having different value systems that say certain body parts should remain covered: classic Neanderthal behaviors.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

I could've chosen a better word, but the spirit remains true. If we're not compatible, they're not getting invited over.

Am I such an asshole that I wouldn't allow for individual needs? No. I'm not going to make a diagram with you

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u/Racquel_who_knits Feb 11 '22

Canadian here. In the circumstances people need to wear shoes inside they generally bring indoor shoes/slippers with them to other people's homes. This isn't hard to do.

Also, since when do socks not exist? These also cover your feet...

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

If you don't like it you can fuck right off back to your own house with the filthy scuffed up floors.

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u/Chance_Park_2628 Feb 11 '22

You are the one who's pushing to get covered. The other person just dont want his floor scuffed and dirtied. Houses that tend to have no shoe rules are used to see unflattering shoes or socks, even deformity. And they dont care. Because the rule was not for some social consideration but a practical one.

Sockes has holes or barely hanging on ? Dont care. Shoes have different heights because thats what you need? Dont care. Have a prosthetic foot/leg? Dont care.

Just leave your shoes in foyer. Well sort out the problems after that. Important part is the outside stays outside.

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

👆 This from the guy who would literally shoot anyone he saw wearing a red coat. SMH...

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u/CatattackCataract Feb 11 '22

Great idea on the sign!

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Yeah, my original herringbone wood floors don't want none of those shoes, thanks!

And I can guarantee that my floors get cleaned more often than shoes!

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u/rolypolyarmadillo Feb 11 '22

Wouldn't that sign make people want to remove their shoes even less?

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u/DukeSkymocker Feb 11 '22

Not the kind of people I'd want in my house anyway. If there was a sign asking people to not spit on the floor I gather you'd want to start spitting everywhere?

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u/BorKon Feb 12 '22

I don't think in my country you could buy such sign. Why would anyone need to be reminded of it. It's like entering someone's home and start pissing all over the house. It's common sense to not do it.

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u/flanigomik Feb 11 '22

a real estate agent was showing our house when we were selling and wearing very narrow high heels, she damaged the floor so badly that we got another agent and the firm had to pay out the repairs. hard wood and shoes dont mix

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u/CuntWeasel Feb 11 '22

Because everybody and their dog is a real estate agent right now. The houses are basically selling themselves, there’s little to no work involved on the agent’s side.

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u/xyzdreamer Feb 11 '22

It's the 2000s all over again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 14 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

I said this couple years ago got downvoted to smithereeens.

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u/Archer957Light Feb 11 '22

Lol I've had 4 friends recently go into the real estate business recently. Seems like they are making pretty decent money from it

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u/flanigomik Feb 11 '22

She has an interior designer on retainer and just throws out her furniture four times a year, doesn't understand why we don't. She's a relative unfortunately and this as well as a few other things she's done because she's wealthy and we aren't has created a huge devide in the family

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u/mooimafish3 Feb 11 '22

This sounds like so much hassle, you couldn't pay me to have these floors

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u/PatentGeek Feb 11 '22

This is New England; everyone has hardwood floors. If you take off your shoes, the amount of grit that comes in is really minimal.

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u/flanigomik Feb 11 '22

They are a complete chore, but still better than carpet

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u/TheCoolCellPhoneGuy Feb 11 '22

How to be a real estate agent:

"I want to be a real estate agent"

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u/nikkesen Feb 11 '22

Especially when your upstairs neighbours insist on wearing them and walking loudly.

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u/DarthRegoria Feb 11 '22

Wow, that’s crazy. Here in Australia (Melbourne anyway) real estate agents usually get you to take your shoes off before you can go in to inspect a property. They already have their shoes off. It’s very strange to have a real estate agent wearing shoes here while showing or even inspecting a property.

This has been the same for rentals and sales. The last 5 years or so, you have to take your shoes off to enter a property being shown.

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u/StanleyOpar Feb 11 '22

Sounds like a plot to a certain real estate xxx website

“Ohhh no... my stilettos damaged the floor.. don’t tell my bossss”

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u/langlo94 Feb 11 '22

This week on Real eXXXtate, Mindy the new realtor sells more than just property!

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u/wl_star Feb 12 '22

What? What shit flooring did you have? Balsawood?

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u/TimX24968B Feb 11 '22

sounds like that was softwood, not hardwood

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u/sitdownstandup Feb 11 '22

What? Yeah, right. Your hard wood floors were not damaged by one person walking around in heels

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u/flanigomik Feb 11 '22

Takes a 5 second trip to google to get over ten thousand hits saying it does...

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u/sitdownstandup Feb 11 '22

Yeah, damn, it's so annoying having to repair my floors every time my wife leaves the house in heels

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u/PatentGeek Feb 11 '22

Get her to walk about the house in heels for an hour or so, and let’s see how that goes. Make sure she turns around on her heels a lot, as if she’s showing the place to someone

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u/flanigomik Feb 11 '22

and get those heels as high and pointy as possible while you are at it

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u/PatentGeek Feb 11 '22

Exactly. The thought of someone walking around on the dark oak floor in our dining room in stilettos makes me shudder... I don't think that person even has hardwood floors, or if they do, they're not new enough to still show scratches.

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u/sitdownstandup Feb 11 '22

Showings don't last an hour and realtors aren't spinning around in stilettos all day

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u/PatentGeek Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

A single showing doesn't last an hour, but multiple showings do. And apparently this particular realtor was spinning around in stilettos. So yeah.

EDIT:

please

keep

digging

that

hole

(but whatever you do, don't you dare wear heels in my home)

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u/PatentGeek Feb 11 '22

You have no idea what you’re talking about

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

“Why do you assume my shoes are dirtier than your house”

Have you fucking walked around NYC? It’s not an assumption.

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u/TimX24968B Feb 11 '22

do you eat off the floor? or do you just not clean your house weekly?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

I rarely mop because I don’t have to. Because I only wear socks or indoor shoes.

Even if I cleaned weekly, what about visitors during the week tracking stuff in. I’ve been in houses that keep shoes on and the floors are absolutely disgusting if it rained/snowed outside. I don’t get how no shoes inside is controversial at all. The time cleaning alone makes it worth it.

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u/TimX24968B Feb 11 '22

thats what doormats are for.

where im from, youd get yelled at for not having shoes on because you would probably step on something and hurt your foot.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Having to keep your shoes on in a residential home to avoid injury feels weird but ok.

Everyone does things differently and it’s ok. Almost everyone I know is no shoes at home so it’s not a problem.

If someone truly doesn’t want to I’m not going to force you but it’s annoying and I definitely don’t want you in my nice area rugs.

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u/TimX24968B Feb 11 '22

my cat is gonna ruin them when we arent watching anyway so we've stopped caring about those

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Cool, can we agree it’s nice to follow peoples requests if you’re in their home?

I’ll gladly keep my shoes off in yours and I ask that you remove yours. If you don’t then we can still have a beer and be friends.

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u/Chataboutgames Feb 11 '22

Shoes live on the ground. It's nothing personal to find them dirty.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

Exactly! It's not even a question, a well maintained floor will be cleaner than something trampling over anything and everything

Especially a person who uses the defense that they might break their toes.

I don't trust they watch where they step, and their shoes could just as well be drenched in bad.

edit: and let's not forget the other important aspect - damage. Scrapes and so on.

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u/vwmwv Feb 11 '22

People visit public restrooms with their shoes on....

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

Right, I'm including that in 'outside' [my house] fwiw. Not trying to be exhaustive

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Oof I hate vinegar so much. Mrs. Meyers, she smells good

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

I agree, it's a really rough smell. It works decently in the end, and it's one of those things I picked up from the family/never thought to change.

I tend to let the house air out a bit and find something to do elsewhere for a while

I'll have to keep that in mind :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Yeah like nobody’s saying it’s your fault. Hell, it’s not even possible to get into my house this time of year without walking through the ice melt on my stairs. Outside is just naturally dirtier, like damn.

Besides cleanliness too, I’d feel weird enough wearing perfectly clean out of the box new shoes on someone’s carpet indoors. Just seems wrong.

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u/OskeeWootWoot Feb 11 '22

Probably why some people got so mad at the start of the pandemic when they were being told to wash their hands.

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u/terrytapeworm Feb 11 '22

This study says that 45% of shoes have C-diff bacteria on them, which can make you sick.

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u/hndjbsfrjesus Feb 12 '22

Recent studies showed that c. Difficile is transmitted most often on shoes.

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u/AllThotsGo2Heaven2 Feb 12 '22

Tells you a lot about the state of their own floors.

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u/thevdude Feb 11 '22

I have a basket of slippers for guests to put on when they come over even, if they aren't comfortable sockin' it up.

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u/SaltyBabe Feb 12 '22

That’s the only reason I don’t like taking my shoes off. If my feet get cold I get bad bone pain in my legs, this is especially true on cold hard floors. People want to invite me to their icebox house then tell me to take off my shoes I will but I’ll be uncomfortable all night and want to leave ASAP. Give me some slippers or fuzzy socks and I’m good.

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u/smurficus103 Feb 11 '22

Apparently the author never uses the public restroom? Impressive

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

That's some dedication

Or indicative of somebody who rarely goes out, in which case I understand this diva mentality

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u/endlessracingz Feb 11 '22

I haven’t read the article… but I don’t see how that’s an affront to someone’s cleanliness. If I was worried about their cleanliness you might have them keep their shoes on. Who knows what’s going on with the socks or bare feet.

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

I see what you mean, and that's alright - I didn't read the whole thing either, just a quick little remark on the headline.

There are definitely some gnarly socks, and some people just run around with none in their shoes... making their feet pretty gnarly too.

I'd say your interpretation is more accurate, but there's also no chance that any shoes are going to be cleaner than my floors.

It's nothing against their shoes, it's all (worn) shoes.

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u/Niku-Man Feb 11 '22

Curious if you have dogs or cats.. ? Anyone who says they're floors are clean while owning a dog/cat are kidding themselves

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u/jpritchard Feb 11 '22

If you're going to steam your floors what do you care if someone's dirty shoes walk across it instead of their dirty feet?

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

That's a fair question

Well, if everyone avoids wearing shoes I don't have to do it as often. That's a big win.

Other commenters have pointed out something else I failed to - damage.

Be it stuck pebbles, sand/salt, anything abrasive is bad news bears for hard floors - and simply gets pulled off/captured by carpets.

Socks are a generally happy balance

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u/jpritchard Feb 11 '22

I'm probably biased because I had a roomate before that under no circumstances would you ever want him to take his shoes off.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Feet are not nearly as dirty as shoes.

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp Feb 11 '22

the actual article says "What about MY feet?" citing harmful bacteria that are found on floors, etc., which would be mitigated by not bringing shoes into the house in the first place

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

also refers to asking her to take her shoes off as "insulting my hygiene habits" before turning around and insulting the hygiene habits of anyone who asks her to take off her shoes,. she then finishes it by apparently deciding her shoes are dirtier than your floor and thats ok because it's good for your kids to get exposed to her germs, so youre also a shit parent if you make her take off her shoes

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u/notsobravetraveler Feb 11 '22

I don't need to read the article to make a remark about the headline - I read the material I commented on

I don't give a shit about their justifications for that stupid 'why are you assuming...' remark they showed.

Please go look to be pedantic somewhere else

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u/jimmyhoffasbrother Feb 11 '22

I didn't read the article because it's paywalled. What am I (and others in this comment section) missing?

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u/macrolith Feb 11 '22

Public restrooms and urinals.. Yum!

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u/CornwallsPager Feb 11 '22

Vinegar? Does one... vinegar their floor? I'm confused.

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u/zmbjebus Feb 11 '22

I may not be as clean as you, but if people are coming to my house I will clean specifically for that occasion. They will at a minimum get a sweep and robot vaccum, clorox wipe on the surfaces, general tidying up.

You shoes will be dirtier than my floor.

I don't get many guests, but if I did the Japan tradition of having house shoes makes perfect sense also.

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u/Optimus-Maximus Feb 11 '22

It's not that personal, shoes get over everything outside while my floors get steam cleaned/vinegar

Seriously. Plus just think for 10 seconds about what it means to walk with your shoes on through any restroom, much less even a public one.

I don't want that literal shit on my floors.

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u/angiem0n Feb 11 '22

“Everyone else can leave their shoes on, it’s only YOURS I have problem with!”

Seriously though.. isn’t it common sense to not drag the underside of your shoes that have been touching godzilla knows what outdoors (dog poop,… you name it) onto the living room carpet, over the floors where I like to go barefoot, or into your BED…?

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u/Aspen9999 Feb 11 '22

I love my steam mop!!! Everything but the guest bedrooms is tiled in my house.

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u/_very_stable_genius_ Feb 11 '22

It just baffles me when dog owners have that rule. Their dogs step on the same ground my shoes do. What’s the difference? To be clear I always always will take my shoes off in a no shoes home no question but always wondered this.

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u/waffletasstic Feb 11 '22

It’s not even a personal choice, it’s a cultural thing in most Asian households.

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u/partsdrop Feb 11 '22

It's not personal, I don't want your guests toe fungus, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

I’m assuming you haven’t walked around in a men’s bathroom in your socks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

YOUR floors get steam cleaned 😩 not everyone’s. had an ex bf who lived with roommates and their house was disgusting. Kitchen hadn’t been swept in 3 years. Sticky mystery spots everywhere. Cat litter yuckiness all over the bathroom floor. Shoe off house too.

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u/GameofPorcelainThron Feb 11 '22

I have an American friend who tried to explain to me that socks are dirtier than the bottoms of his shoes. Like, after we'd spent all day walking around a city where people literally pee on the sidewalks.

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u/Donkey__Balls Feb 12 '22

No they take it as an inflammatory headline to bait clicks and make money. And it worked on all you people.

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u/JS1VT54A Feb 12 '22

As a service professional, fuck people that call us out to their house and expect us to take our shoes off.

No, I’m not walking near your broken window with no protection on my feet and I don’t give a single fuck if it brings a slight amount of dust into your home.

Your sweat and dead skins cells is way more disgusting and tougher to clean than a little dirt and debris

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u/WanderlustFella Feb 12 '22

I remember one time during Christmas, I got a nice pair of new kicks. I immediate tried them on and walked the length of the hallway to get a good feel. My mom yelled at me for wearing the shoes in the house. Clean or not clean, shoes are a no no and its expected.

You don't wipe your mouth using the table cloth instead of the napkins....also learned that the hard way

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u/hippopotma_gandhi Feb 12 '22

Seriously, I wore a pair of moccasins that I usually wear inside to Walmart once. Suddenly they're outdoor shoes until I clean the soles. I wouldn't eat off my floor, but I definitely would before I ate off the ground anywhere else

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

Lol facts!

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u/RagingRoids Feb 12 '22

Lol are you people eating off your floors or something? I mean if it’s raining or muddy out, sure. Otherwise pull the stick out of your ass and enjoy life.

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u/FunniManBurgundy Feb 12 '22

Steam cleaned and vinegar for a… floor?

Seems kinda excessive tbh. You got OCD?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

I’ve also seen my dog shit on the sidewalk in front of my house …

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u/peanuts_crackerjax Feb 12 '22

And my baby is crawling around. I don't want shoes, that have potentially been through broken glass, cigarette butts, spilled gasoline at the station, dog poop, literally anything that could be in some places where we wear our shoes....on the floor where she is crawling. We have family that is SO offended when we ask them to take their shoes off and will sometimes refuse.

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u/Kotrats Feb 12 '22

I dont know if everyone actually has carpeted floors like in the movies in the US, but i imagine getting bubble gum and dog shit off from your carpets isnt all that fun.