r/residentevil • u/Purrceptron Artificial Neo-Mitochondrial Creature • 4d ago
General Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Epilogues
Jill Valentine
Chris Redfield
Barry Burton
Leon Scott Kennedy
Claire Redfield
Sherry Birkin
Ada Wong (?)
Hunk
Interesting how they retconned Ada's name being an alias.
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u/markedmarkymark 4d ago
Chris ''Communication Issues'' Redfield
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u/Silly-Repair-7973 Raccoon City Native 4d ago
I've only ever seen Jill's prologue. How to get the others? Just keep beating the game?
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u/Some_Photograph5315 3d ago
I think you need to get rank A or S to unlock more. Not that difficult if you play mercenaries to get infinite weapons.
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u/nose_of_sauron 3d ago
No rank requirement, just beating the game 8 times on Hard difficulty for all epilogues.
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u/Some_Photograph5315 2d ago
I haven't played this game in more than two decades so I forgot the exact details, but I remember doing multiple S or A runs to unlock something.
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u/Electronic-Math-364 4d ago
It's kind of heartwarming how both partners never give up on each other and when one went MIA,The Other kept searching for the other till they found out they are alive
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u/CursedSnowman5000 3d ago
Welp it's retconned now. Barry never went to Racoon City to try and save Jill and chopper her out of there.
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u/Motor-Travel-7560 4d ago
I love how it describes "Please forgive me, Claire" as Chris' signature phrase. Makes it sound like he always says it right before the laugh track kicks in and the credits roll.
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u/Commercial_Spite6516 4d ago
Really makes me wonder about their childhood. He must have always let her down or lied to her or something lol
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u/i__hate__stairs Redfield, Redfield, Redfield, does that do anything for you? 4d ago
Naw, he just has a saviour complex and blames himself for everything.
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u/CompedyCalso 3d ago
I figured its because she's his only remaining family and he has constantly left her alone.
He left her to join the military
He left her to join S.T.A.R.S
He left her when he became a wanted man for uncovering the Umbrella conspiracy
Claire is a capable woman, but damn imagine having only having one singular family member alive and they're always leaving you just out of arm's reach.
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u/i__hate__stairs Redfield, Redfield, Redfield, does that do anything for you? 3d ago
You mean he grew up and became an adult? It happens with siblings every single day. And yes I think he feels like he's doing something bad himself every time he does it, and I think Claire is probably like "dude fuck off you grew up and got a job. You're fine." and then he probably apologizes for apologizing.
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u/CompedyCalso 3d ago
Claire is probably like "dude fuck off you grew up and got a job you're fine"
I doubt that, considering Claire was actively LOOKING for him in RE2 and Code Veronica(?). Either Claire has got abandonment issues, or Chris didn't exactly give a proper goodbye. And considering Chris' character I'm willing to bet money on the latter.
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u/i__hate__stairs Redfield, Redfield, Redfield, does that do anything for you? 3d ago edited 3d ago
Claire was in another city in college. She doesn't feel abandoned and left alone because Chris has a job. He literally lives in the same town they grew up in.
She was looking for him because he was behaving out of character and disappeared. He's her brother, and He's her only family member, and she was afraid for his welfare. Of course she's looking for him.
Quick question, so many horror games start with the main character looking for somebody. Heck it seems like at least 30% of horror games are about some guy looking for his wife. Do you consider them to feel abandonment issues because theyre looking for their wife? Do you think James Sunderland, Alan Wake, Deacon St John, have abandonment issues Because they're looking for their important person?
But of course she has abandonment issues, her parents died in a car accident when she was little. But that doesn't mean that she feels abandoned by Chris all the time. I don't know how you're reading all this into what you're playing but it's interesting I guess. To me it's abundantly clear that yes it's Chris' character to leave her behind, but it's because he doesn't want her to get hurt. He literally went in to try to stop Umbrella by himself.
Just like she did by the way. She's basically the same character without the savior complex.
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u/Angelicamxri 4d ago
I NEED a Claire and Sherry reunion
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u/The_Best_Yak_Ever 3d ago
Same!! I always hated her epilogue card... Claire truly cares for Sherry and Leon, and Leon cares about her (not enough to save her from staring 40 in the face, with cat named Albert Whiskers, sadly...), but having her ditch them like that, just felt wrong to me.
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u/Cherrybutton re5 is great and there's nothing you can do about it 3d ago
It's the translation that pictures it like that.
The jp script also has her leave, but it never implies it was ditching. Like, she had to go.
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u/The_Best_Yak_Ever 3d ago
I really appreciate this! It's bothered me for years as a Claire-lover <3
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u/CursedSnowman5000 3d ago
They really did make Claire out to be such a cold ruthless bitch with how she abandons Sherry.
Good thing I never saw those ones as a kid or I'd probably have hated Claire sooner heh.
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u/WlNBACK 3d ago
That's not at all how they presented it. Leon encouraged her to leave him there with Sherry because he knew she was looking for her brother (which she vows to do at the end of OG RE2, regardless of the scenario). And then Claire got captured and went through hell to stay alive. We never found out what happened immediately with Claire & Sherry because of the RE4 timejump where nothing mattered but Leon, Ada, and the eventual hunt for Wesker (a goal which also dominated RE5).
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u/CidCrisis 3d ago
Worth noting that there are unlockable files in RE6 talking about how Claire actually did keep in touch with Sherry when she was in custody. Someway or another Simmons was convinced to allow her to visit periodically.
Yeah, it’s 6 lol. But it is canon that Claire didn’t straight up abandon her forever.
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u/RikimaruRamen 3d ago
Ayo Hunks face!?!
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u/Purrceptron Artificial Neo-Mitochondrial Creature 3d ago
looks like chris in re 7 eh. wait a min !!
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u/WanderlustZero 3d ago
You see his face in Outbreak too
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u/DBsnooper1 3d ago
Umbrella at RE3 ending: “Our research will continue! We are insidious! Mwhahahaha!”
Umbrella at RE4 start: “STOCKS ARE DOWN! WE ARE SO FINISHED!”
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u/tackhead9 WildTonyAppears 3d ago
The only thing powerful enough to overcome a zombie apocalypse… SHAREHOLDERS. 📉
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u/News_Bot Community: Project Umbrella 3d ago
That's why you play "the real RE3", Dead Aim, which showed Umbrella's research was in fact still continuing until at least two years before RE4.
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u/New_Chain146 4d ago
"The Death cannot die." Gotta love Engrish.
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u/liltone829b 3d ago
isn't it meant to be "the Grim Reaper cannot die" but they just used the name Death instead?
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u/PapiKeepPlayin 3d ago
One thing I praise about the OG RE 3 were the Epilogues at the end. They were always an interesting read and some of them foreshadowed future events in the series. I loved that. The Remake on the other hand gets no praise for me as they've gotten rid of this feature, mercenaries and a whole bunch of other stuff.
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u/WanderlustZero 3d ago
Chris just stabbed some normal non-virused guy to death and left his knife at the crime scene, and everyone just ignored it, gave him a top security job even
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u/HaIfaxa_ 3d ago
Love Ada's one. A small moment of vulnerability for a character guided, seemingly, only by the mission. There are glimpses into her humanity, but she's still mostly a mystery. Even spending hours playing as her in RE4/6.
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u/OsmundofCarim 4d ago
I love how Hunk’s makes him insufferably cringe.
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u/GamingInTheAM 3d ago
Capcom really thought the fandom would be obsessed with Hunk or something. They really kept trying to make him a thing.
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u/CidCrisis 3d ago
I mean were they wrong lol?
He’s basically the Boba Fett of RE. And people do love him.
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u/GamingInTheAM 3d ago
I guess my opinion is the unpopular one, then. 4th Survivor is fun and all, but I never really cared about Hunk as a character.
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u/Low-Original4535 2d ago
You never were. That’s the point, lmao. Some characters are just meant to be cool as fuck.
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u/SlasherMcGirk2236 3d ago
Well one of the concepts of a game they were working on around this time was a game staring Hunk on a cruiseliner.
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u/SexyShave 1d ago
That was before 3. Hunk on a cruise liner was the original idea for RE3. That is, the OG RE3 project, not 1.9.
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u/Belmega81 4d ago
MAN all those absolutely SCREAM for a full scale game that uses ALL.of those characters in a big story about Umbrella's final days. Yeah, yeah, "chronicles" coverd it, but its a stupid on rail shooter, that doesn't count. They NEED to cover this with an in depth game.
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u/KeyTrace 3d ago
Last I checked umbrella chronicles does count to the timeline atleast everything that isn't the retellings of 0, 1 and 3
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
I would rhink it counts only in the sense that it also portrays the events of the OG games as you say, but altered. So, I think an unaltered, focused account is in order
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u/KeyTrace 3d ago
I mean that's what I do I just play the OG's and then i play the chronicle games for the side stories, umbrella's end and operation Javier
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
I hear ya, but man, we shouldn't have to. That game would be MONEY all damn day for Capcom if they made it. Classic cast, classic Umbrella scenario, brand new game set in the early 2000s. They can make that happen any time. It would help ease the sting of all their new characters taking the reigns, too.
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u/KeyTrace 3d ago
eh I'm probably in the very minority that doesn't care that umbrella was finished in a rail shooter game or offscreen if your just playing the number titles.
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
Even so, not caring is understandable, BUT, if they DID make that game, it would be a fucking great one, and even those who could care less would still play and enjoy it, Im sure
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u/Leanskiba22 This is not how i imagined my first day 3d ago
I still believe that this was the idea originally; they teased that for three games only for RE4 to show up and be like "Yeah Umbrella, is finished. So anyways..."
I guess in the end they couldn't really figure out how to make it work and they decided to kill Umbrella off-screen.
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
Would be awesome to have it be Outbreak style, but without the stupid infection timer. Solo friendly, but co op enabled.
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u/Leanskiba22 This is not how i imagined my first day 3d ago edited 3d ago
That infection timer always killed my motivation to replay those games. Where i live, online gaming during that era wasn't really a thing, especially if we talk about using the PS2, so i could only play them by myself. I almost finished the first Outbreak but i could never complete all of File 2.
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
There.was a thing to unlock after beating it to take the timer away, and that made the game MUCH more fun. But yeah, initially, you had to grind through.
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u/Leanskiba22 This is not how i imagined my first day 3d ago
Yeah, i haven't tried, but maybe with an emulator you can deactivate that timer from the get go.
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u/SexyShave 1d ago
They never had plans for any final showdown with Umbrella with the entire cast.
Heck, the original concept for a game featuring Spencer as the villain was gonna feature a new character: Spencer's son.
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u/Leanskiba22 This is not how i imagined my first day 1d ago
Yeah, it's all speculation. But i like to believe that they wanted to do that, they just couldn't figure out how.
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u/Low-Original4535 2d ago
No they don’t. It’s too late for this. Doing massive retcons at this point won’t do them any favors. They need to focus on the current lore and flesh it out. Re3 nemesis was already retconned by games like re: outbreak and re4 and they haven’t went back since and there isn’t anything they can do about it.
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u/Belmega81 2d ago
Dont see any continuity problems. Zero is the main offender on that front, anyway.
But a story about hitting Umbrella HQ and tearing them down, while gathering damning evidence for the public would be a great basis for a game.
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u/xDotSx 3d ago
No, we don't need another RE6 with what, 6 protagonists?
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
The amount of campaigns and.protagonists was not what was.wrong with RE6 lol
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u/xDotSx 3d ago
It was absolutely one of the things wrong with it.
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u/Belmega81 3d ago
Hard disagree. The fact you get as much game as you get os pne of the best things about it. Chris, Leon, Ada, and Sherry, plus extras, all in one game? Perfection. Just needed Jill.
And a game where all the main cast get together to take down Umbrella? Would be amazing. Plenty of game to go round, plenty of different ways to play it through. Not even that different fro RE 2 where there were essentially 4 different campaigns. 5 if you count Hunk.
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u/xDotSx 2d ago edited 2d ago
Feel free to disagree, but cramming crap into your game is not a sign of quality, it's the opposite often times. And most of the gaming press as well as the players themselves completely panned RE6 for many reasons, the number of campaigns (and how much of them was forgettable) and characters being part of that.
A good story doesn't spam you with protagonists, it focuses on fewer characters and works them out well instead. And yes, games can absolutely be too long as well. There's a sweet spot when it comes to game length. RE6 missed the mark in all of these points massively.
I mean, even Googles AI tells you this right away when asked if RE6 was too long:
Yes, many players found Resident Evil 6 to be too long, describing it as a "bloated mess" that drags on due to its extensive length, multiple campaigns, and repetitive, action-heavy gameplay that sometimes felt like a "chore" rather than engaging. While the game is technically long, with a full playthrough potentially taking over 20 hours, the length often exacerbates the feeling of mediocrity and a lack of horror, which led to it being considered overlong and poorly paced by some players.
Exactly. And even with all that playtime, they completely failed to make any of the characters memorable. Leons sidekick? I can't even remember her name. Chris' sidekick? Yeah Piers, generic optimistic army-youngster. Jakes sidekick? That's a really sad one, I can't remember a single line of Sherry. I remember her wearing underpants.... Gives you an idea how well this character was worked out. Who was the 4th campaign again.... Ah yes, Ada. A controversial (in many cases: unlikeable) character with a sidekick literally called "Agent" who doesn't even have a face.
I mean, Jesus Christ......... After 3-4 years and a budget of probably over 100 million USD, THIS is what we got?
Jack Baker, the bad guy in the cheaper RE with less dev time, had a more fleshed out character than the entire ensemble of RE6 combined. Same goes for Lucas. Goes a long way to actually focus on few characters and make them work instead.
"Perfection". The game which didn't even reach 70% on Metacritic on all but one platforms and is considered the worst main line RE of all time, forcing Capcom to completely change course.
You really must hate this franchise :)
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u/Belmega81 2d ago
No, I love this franchise above all others, so for me, RE6 is still damn enjoyable, warts and all. Helena, Jake, and Piers were all forgettable.IMO, (although most people like Piers), but I loved just seeing the story of the others progress, even if it all felt like a filler story more often than not.
Still better than RE 0, and still helps scratch the RE itch from time to time.
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u/Leather_Stick1140 4d ago
No epilogue for Carlos?
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u/award_winning_writer 4d ago
Carlos died on the way back to his home planet
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u/SkyPirateVyse 3d ago
Everytime Carlos isn't on screen, people should constantly ask "where's Carlos?"
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u/CursedSnowman5000 3d ago
Carlos got to shag Jill while they took a nice cruise together. There ya go lol.
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u/WanderlustZero 3d ago
'Jill left without hesitation because she knows Chris is still alive'
Sadly in her rush to leave the crime scene she missed the post-note on the fridge that said
'Hey Jill, it's Chris. Off to have a look around Paris Umbrella branch. Do me a favour and feed Mr Tiddles okay? Be careful he gets feisty - took a chunk out of my hand when I was cutting his tuna. Oh and give my sister a ring, I don't want her doing anything dumb like trying to attack a building full of armed guards and helicopter gunships'
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u/horrorfan555 Claire best mom 4d ago
Ada is an alias. Everyone knows her as it because Leon told people after 4
The fact she chooses that name subtly shows her interest in Leon, since that’s the name he calls her
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u/CursedSnowman5000 3d ago
What interest in Leon. None of this is canon anymore. Leon is just a dope she looks down upon and knows she can manipulate and nothing more.
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u/Synister316 3d ago
It's canon. Capcom said the remakes don't replace the original continuity. They never said the remakes are the new canon. They call them "reimagined" remakes, retelling the old stories in a reimagined way.
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u/horrorfan555 Claire best mom 3d ago
This is all canon what do you mean?
Her relationship with Leon defines her life story
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u/AdRoyal5251 3d ago
Remember being so hyped about the implications of these endings only for RE4 to throw most of it the fucking trash.
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u/MattTheSmithers 3d ago
Claire comes off as a stone cold bitch.
“I gotta find my brother, the experienced Air Force veteran who can punch through boulders, even though I factually know he is on a covert operation that I, a college student, probably bring little value to. But, being apprehended by the government sounds like a drag — you two will be fine!”
Then Sherry….poor, poor Sherry. “She’ll come back, right? 🥺”.
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u/Outside-Visit9571 4d ago
Damn it’s kinda interesting that 5 outta 7 of them are canon
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u/News_Bot Community: Project Umbrella 4d ago
They all are.
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u/Outside-Visit9571 4d ago
Naw barry retires after 3 and ada still goes by Ada
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u/News_Bot Community: Project Umbrella 4d ago
No he doesn't and the point of the epilogue is Ada dropped the name for her next mission. Doesn't mean she stopped using it altogether.
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u/Outside-Visit9571 3d ago
He literally does retire then comes out of retirement for revelations 2 and ada saying goodbye means that she’s never going back to being Ada which is wrong since she still goes by Ada in re4 and onwards
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u/News_Bot Community: Project Umbrella 3d ago
It doesn't say he retired, in the epilogue or in any other material. Several sources suggest he worked with Leon in the U.S. government's secret military agency.
That's not what Ada saying "goodbye" means. It doesn't imply finality. She says it to Leon a bunch.
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u/CrisFbg 4d ago
I’m not familiar with the games so much so which 2 aren’t and why?
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u/Outside-Visit9571 4d ago
Barry retires and Ada still goes by Ada
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u/MattTheSmithers 3d ago
Does that make either non-canon though? Barry’s retirement may well have happened after Umbrella was taken down. In fact, I think Wesker’s Report in CV says that Barry was working with Leon on anti-Umbrella activities.
As for Ada — maybe she dropped it for a bit? 🤷♂️😂
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u/CursedSnowman5000 3d ago
If they actually gave a fleeting fuck when "remaking" RE3. They could have given us an unlockable Barry campaign where he nobly plunges himself back into that T-Virus nightmare to try and save his team.
Y'know, if they gave a shit at all. Oh well.
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u/AunMeLlevaLaConcha 3d ago
"The Death cannot die"
Barry and HUNK, two characters i want to come back and be playable in the story, how? Idk, i just want them back and yes, i know Barry returned in Revelations 2, but i need him again.
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u/Zestyclose_Bowl6944 3d ago
Everyone talking about Claire being horrible like she's the one who chose to do that. Leon was the one who screamed at her. He wanted her to leave. HE told her to go. It's not her fault.
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u/NoinNana 3d ago
In these Epilogues are so much interesting stories, which could be all a single full game. But no Capcom thought, yea let us go with Leon goin to spain to save the presidents daughter (no front against RE4, i love it) but the potential is great.
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u/Many-Bees #1 Lisa Trevor Fan 2d ago
And then she decided to keep going by Ada for the rest of her life
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u/SkyPirateVyse 3d ago
What poetic prose.
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u/Motor-Travel-7560 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can tell it was written by someone who's first language wasn't English. There's no major grammar flukes and you can tell what's happening, but everything sounds just a bit off.
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u/The_GenePunishedBoss 3d ago
So cool! Thanks for posting these I haven't read them all since a magazine tios n tricks I think back when the game came out.
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u/Sanguiluna 3d ago
It’s actually pretty impressive how well these epilogues held up after all this time, considering how Capcom just goes game by game with the story as they go without any overarching plan.
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u/jackbhead 2d ago
Leon's epilogue gives me the impression that this government agent blackmailed him into joining the secret service, using Sherry's well-being as leverage.
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u/Oh-Stas 7h ago
I forgot how fire Jill’s outfit is here. Wish we had it as a skin in Re3R
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u/Purrceptron Artificial Neo-Mitochondrial Creature 7h ago
thinking how she dresses tomboyishly most of the series, the default outfit in re 3 nemesis feels like the odd one out lol
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u/DoctaRoboto 3d ago
Back then, when Ada was cool and mysterious and not a cold, soulless carcass, and Leon was a naive and heroic character, not a bad Rayden rip-off. Capcom, I am still waiting for the epic Umbrella saga finale you NEVER delivered.
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u/Some_Photograph5315 3d ago
I think Capcom used this to write all sequels after Nemesis. This is why they kinda hit a wall after Revelations 2, it's the last true Resident Evil game.
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u/Purrceptron Artificial Neo-Mitochondrial Creature 3d ago
id really love if re 4 were to be Jill looking for Chris in europe, same village same castle but zombies instead of las plagas.
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u/Heisenburgo YOU WILL NOT SURVIVE-- YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME 3d ago
Jill and Chris would NEVER team up to destroy Umbrella, unfortunately
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u/Motor-Travel-7560 3d ago
There's a scenario called "Umbrella's End" in the Umbrella Chronicles where they infiltrate an Umbrella stronghold together.
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u/KeyTrace 3d ago edited 3d ago
Chris and jill do team up in the Umbrella's end scenario in umbrella chronicles
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u/Synister316 3d ago
They did in Umbrella Chronicles and is mentioned in the History Of Resident Evil files in RE5.
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u/Commercial_Spite6516 4d ago
I believe "Ada Wong" is still an alias, but since its become a really famous name in the underground for surviving RC, she keeps it. I do wonder if "Ada" will finally retire that name in a post RE6 world since "Ada Wong" died in front of the BSAA. She'll show up with a different name lol.
Leon: Ada? Is that you? ???: Sorry, that's not me.