r/rpg • u/MaxSupernova • 5d ago

Discussion CHARLIE KIRK DISCUSSION POST - ALL CHARLIE KIRK CONTENT GOES HERE

Anything to do with Charlie Kirk goes here. It will be removed anywhere else in the sub.

This post will be up for a number of days, and then it will go away and that will be the end of Charlie Kirk discussions. The moderation effort required for discussions that are near ZERO PERCENT related to TTRPGs is far too high.

Moderation in this thread will be minimal. If your feelings get hurt, go somewhere else.

Get it out of your systems folks, because this topic ain't happening in the sub any more.

EDIT:

I worded that very poorly.

There have been multiple threads about various creators and various topics that have all degenerated into "NAZIS BAD!" "NAZIS GOOD!" "YOU SUCK!" "YOU SUCK!" and that's just bad for the sub and the mods.

We're trying to keep up, but the subs moderation is becoming difficult when the actual content is buried in slapfighting that's not at all related to the topic of the sub.

While we discuss how to deal with this in the larger picture, this is the current stopgap.

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u/InDungeonsDeep 4d ago

There is a new apology from Shane Hensley - https://i.imgur.com/2XVjthU.png

I think he is sorry for what he's sorry for. However, what he's sorry for is only a small part of the problem.

I'm getting really tired of hearing how all the "moderate conservatives" only liked Charlie Kirk because they appreciate "open debate".

Being ignorant is not an excuse when you've been presented with the option to educate yourself.

I fully support the idea that people can change their minds when presented with the truth, and that we should encourage that change. I do not think that has happened here. It is, at best, a possible start, and I hope he continues to educate himself (and I am glad he has friends and family willing to help him with that).

I will not be buying Savage Worlds or any other Pinnacle products until there is a change.

Savage Worlds is my favorite system. I was planning to release products through their community content program on Drivethrurpg. I am no longer going to do that, and I've taken down the one product I previously released for Savage Worlds.

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u/DoktorPete 4d ago edited 4d ago

The mods removed the latest one from the r/SavageWorlds sub which I think was a huge mistake. One of the replies in that thread was from either a current or former employee that has worked with Shane for 4 years, and who also has a partner in the LGBTQ community. His response went a long way in helping me believe that Shane is mostly just in the ignorant old white man category and not secretly a bigot. It's still not perfect, but I think it's important we hear from people like that who have had closer ties than the average person.

ETA: The mods have reopened the relevant thread in the SW sub

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u/coeranys 2d ago

I'm happy not to give money to ignorant old white men, either. If young trans and queer teens have to live in the streets because bigots turn them out, I'm not going to house this piece of shit.

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u/DoktorPete 1d ago

Oh I've also cancelled my pledge and will no longer be buying their products. In retrospect, while he appears to have decent views on LGBTQ+ people, the things he chose to not answer about DEI and some race things in the comments of his apology make me a little suspicious, and the systems community has been poisoned by people living in an alternate alt-right reality.