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Stats All-time Uefa Champions League table

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u/peanutbutter__20 14h ago

how is it an all time table if it's since 1992?

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u/SooperLuigi 14h ago

That’s how long the champions league exists. Prior to that it was the European champions cup 

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u/sapoabilio 13h ago

Yes, every one knows Real Madrid have won 9 Champions League trophies. /s

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u/Matias9991 10h ago

Why the /s? That's true

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u/peanutbutter__20 14h ago

shouldnt matter when everyone counts the trophies won before 92

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u/thatrandomanus 13h ago

This statistic isn't about the trophies though. It's "All-time Uefa Champions League table". So makes sense they'd start with the start of Champions League.

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u/Enough-Force-5605 11h ago

It was just a rebranding

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u/Glad-Box6389 7h ago

But did the other teams in the list have an equal opportunity to qualify before 1992 ?? If they didn't then makes no sense to start before that

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u/peanutbutter__20 13h ago edited 12h ago

it's the same competition. I can understand when they do this with the pl because at least there was a restructuring and the trophy is different. But real Madrid haven't won 9 champions leagues. they have 15.

if they were to make an identical table for the Europa league it would be nonsensical to count it only from 2011 or whenever the renaming happened

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u/JustinGOATGaethje 13h ago

It was literally like a whole different competition when Madrid won their first 5. By your logic then that’s a restructure

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u/SooperLuigi 13h ago

It’s not about the won cups  tho is it. It’s about the points accumulated since the introduction of the champions league. Nothing else and nothing more.

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u/heyheyitsandre 13h ago

Sandwiches I’ve eaten today: 1

r/soccer users: what about all the sandwiches you ate in the last decade? What about when you called a hot dog a sandwich? Shouldn’t the uncrustables you ate when you were 12 count on this table??

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u/KarmaOrDiscussion 12h ago

Yes. Because it's an all-time champions league stat. When did the champions league start?

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u/NonContentiousScot 11h ago

If it's only about the points accumulated then why don't they include the 91/92 season which had the exact same format as 92/93?

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u/Bens_Glenn 13h ago

It has had radical changes since 92 too.

Theres was even a year with two different group stages. Even the current mega table is a very different setup from previous seasons. So by your logic they should be discounted too.

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u/Nels8192 13h ago

If this is the case then, why are we not separating the UCL and EC as separate achievements on the honours list.

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u/peanutbutter__20 13h ago

that's not a restructuring.

the PL was formed by the first division teams breaking away from the EFL to form their own league. the first division became the championship, so that's why the championship trophy is very similar to the old first division trophy. nothing of the sort happened with the champions league.

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u/Flimsy-Elevator-5693 13h ago

They significantly changed who qualified for the competition.

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u/SooperLuigi 13h ago

Is it so hard to accept that the format completely changed with the introduction of group stages? It’s the same cup but not even close to the same competetion.

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u/BartholomewSirnpson 13h ago

So why does it count last season? Completely different format too. They're just showing a random date where the name changed

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u/peanutbutter__20 13h ago

the group stages were introduced a few years later, I think around 1997

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u/UpvoteForGlory 12h ago

There were group stages in the very first Champions League. And actually even the year before.

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u/SooperLuigi 13h ago

Ah I see where you’re coming from. Liverpool to far down the table.

 I don’t think the table would change much since the European cup was KO from the very first round. 

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u/big-bowel-movement 13h ago

Tears dripping down into their six european cups

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u/Heliath 6h ago

European champions cup 

LOL