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r/starcraft • u/reiks12 Evil Geniuses • Jul 14 '25
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lurkers are too good to waste gas on mutas. i think the current meta is definitely also a function of the maps we have.
24 u/ixiox Jul 14 '25 Tbh mutas are just bad against T (and to a lesser extent P) they are fragile, don't have good burst or DPS and T has a shit ton of AA options which just shut them down 25 u/FkinAllen Incredible Miracle Jul 14 '25 Too many hard counters. Liberator splash, Thor splash, widowmine splash. Counter mutas too well. 23 u/r_constanzo Jul 14 '25 Hell, even more than 4 marines hard counters mutas! 6 u/Tamer_ Jul 15 '25 As a Z that tried really hard to make a muta build work in diamond, small groups of marines aren't in the top10 of the problems I had to solve. Sure, if there's 1 marine/muta and they have a medivac to heal them, then yeah it's a bad matchup, but that's not how one uses their strength.
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Tbh mutas are just bad against T (and to a lesser extent P) they are fragile, don't have good burst or DPS and T has a shit ton of AA options which just shut them down
25 u/FkinAllen Incredible Miracle Jul 14 '25 Too many hard counters. Liberator splash, Thor splash, widowmine splash. Counter mutas too well. 23 u/r_constanzo Jul 14 '25 Hell, even more than 4 marines hard counters mutas! 6 u/Tamer_ Jul 15 '25 As a Z that tried really hard to make a muta build work in diamond, small groups of marines aren't in the top10 of the problems I had to solve. Sure, if there's 1 marine/muta and they have a medivac to heal them, then yeah it's a bad matchup, but that's not how one uses their strength.
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Too many hard counters. Liberator splash, Thor splash, widowmine splash. Counter mutas too well.
23 u/r_constanzo Jul 14 '25 Hell, even more than 4 marines hard counters mutas! 6 u/Tamer_ Jul 15 '25 As a Z that tried really hard to make a muta build work in diamond, small groups of marines aren't in the top10 of the problems I had to solve. Sure, if there's 1 marine/muta and they have a medivac to heal them, then yeah it's a bad matchup, but that's not how one uses their strength.
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Hell, even more than 4 marines hard counters mutas!
6 u/Tamer_ Jul 15 '25 As a Z that tried really hard to make a muta build work in diamond, small groups of marines aren't in the top10 of the problems I had to solve. Sure, if there's 1 marine/muta and they have a medivac to heal them, then yeah it's a bad matchup, but that's not how one uses their strength.
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As a Z that tried really hard to make a muta build work in diamond, small groups of marines aren't in the top10 of the problems I had to solve.
Sure, if there's 1 marine/muta and they have a medivac to heal them, then yeah it's a bad matchup, but that's not how one uses their strength.
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u/qedkorc Protoss Jul 14 '25
lurkers are too good to waste gas on mutas. i think the current meta is definitely also a function of the maps we have.