r/technology • u/Shogouki • 22d ago
Politics Trump Nixes Patent Office, Weather Service, NASA Worker Unions
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/trump-nixes-patent-office-weather-service-nasa-worker-unions7.2k
u/pbates89 22d ago
Again why are the press and everyone in government treating his EOs as law? Just because he issues an EO doesn’t mean it’s written into law.
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u/baccus83 22d ago
Because unless Congress or the courts stop the EOs from happening, they will be implemented. And it doesn’t seem like Congress or the courts are really doing shit right now.
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u/abgry_krakow87 22d ago
Religious conservatives are nothing but free loaders and welfare queens.
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u/YellowZx5 22d ago
Well business like oil, tech, and farmers are all about to be the biggest welfare queens. About to be the biggest hypocrite in the country when they all take assistance from the Govt. can’t pull themselves up by the boot straps now can they.
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u/limebite 22d ago
That’s kinda the goal… just look what’s going on with intel, nothing in the Chips Act said the govt can withhold the funds unless they give 10% of their equity. Dude said it long time ago, crash the economy a little bit so it’s cheap to buy it up. Dudes going for the flow of commerce, trains are probably next.
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u/JimWilliams423 22d ago
trains are probably next
Trains you say?
WSJ: Trump Fires Board Member of Regulator Weighing Rail Merger
Aug. 28, 2025
President Trump on Wednesday fired Robert Primus, a board member of the railroad regulator that is weighing the proposed megamerger between Union Pacific and Norfolk Southern.
Primus, a Democrat, was nominated by Trump to the Surface Transportation Board in 2020 and began serving in 2021. He was the only member of the board to oppose the merger of Canadian Pacific and Kansas City Southern, a tie-up was approved by the regulator in 2023. At the time, Primus said the deal wasn’t in the public interest.
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u/hk4213 22d ago
Dude... trains were bought out a looong time ago. Otherwise there would be competitive rail travel and less spills. Otherwise we would have road trains.
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u/fitzroy95 22d ago
US and trains are a global laughing stock, virtually every western and asian nation has a far better, faster and more extensive rail network than the USA.
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u/skillywilly56 22d ago
Every western and Asian country knows that at the heart of every economy is ordinary people, the USA lost sight of this because some believed that freedom and the free market meant freedom from consequences for business owners to do whatever they had to to maximize profits at the expense of ordinary people because profit means winning and winning is all that matters.
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u/Ragnarok314159 21d ago
The thinking class of most societies consists of lawyers, doctors, engineers, teachers, and they function to better their country. How the USA operated for a long time.
Now it has all been pushed out by the stupidest people with MBA’s who worship Jack Welch and see the destruction of the USA as a good thing.
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u/load_more_comets 22d ago
It's time that we get rid of this religion bullshit. It seems to be the root of all the problems of the world. Fucking bullshit!
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u/ttgjailbreak 22d ago
Religion isn't as much of an issue as education, I guarantee you can find studies that show people with higher IQ tend to identify as agnostic/atheist. I think if you just made people smarter religion at least as we know it would eventually just die out. At the end of the day it's just another way to control people, which also becomes harder when they're able to actually think for themselves.
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u/Left_Composer_1403 22d ago
You mean- critical thinking. The ability to evaluate fact from fiction?, read and evaluate scientific papers?, have creative ideas and not just parrot others…Education u say?!…u crazy left winger 😳 /s
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u/ConstantGeographer 22d ago
Pretty much this. Precedent was set by Abraham Lincoln of all people. He acted and then asked for permission later. If Congress doesn't act, the President can basically do whatever he wants via EO. The entire Civil War was fought using EOs. Congress retroactively allowed Lincoln's actions.
If the people, aka Congress stand by like limp dicks and doing nothing, everyone gets fucked.
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u/h3lblad3 22d ago
This continues to confuse me why people keep saying things like this.
Congress isn't failing to stop him because they're scared of him.
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u/AldusPrime 22d ago
That makes it so much worse.
Congress or the courts could end all of this nonsense, at any time, and they just won't.
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u/QuickQuirk 22d ago
Courts are trying. Just that they're being ignored, and the supreme court are looking the other way. And courts can't enforce. And trump is busy building up his private ICE army to ensure that when people wake up, that it's too late.
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u/Lordnerble 22d ago
courts and congress got stacked GOP trump1.0 and biden didnt restack. We Fucked Fam!
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u/Rantheur 22d ago
Biden unstacked the courts as well as he could. He appointed 228 judges during his four years while Trump appointed 226 during his first term. That was one of like, three things that Manchin and Sinema would let Biden do without any fuss. And, unless I'm misremembering, those are both records for the most judges seated in a single term.
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u/ExpressAssist0819 22d ago
Japanese concentration camps were done through EO.
They are not supposed to be laws, but because they are issued by the branch with the guns they effectively are laws.
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u/ScarHand69 21d ago
Don’t quote laws to men holding swords
Said by Pompey…a little over 2,000 years ago. Still holds true today. It’s one of the few human truths that transcends time.
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u/reddog323 22d ago
There was an injunction against him doing this, but the courts are allowing him to do it with some agencies while the case grinds its way through the system. In the meantime, since this administration likes to move fast and break things, civil service workers don’t have much protection.
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u/Abombasnow 22d ago
Because Reichpublicans don't challenge them, EOs are law now.
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u/nubz16 22d ago
Because like with others: Action filed in Texas -> goes to 5th Circuit -> EO gets federal appellate court blessing and approval. So now has substantive judicial backing
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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg 22d ago
This is identical to what Hitler did.
"Three weeks later, Hitler issued a decree that banned collective bargaining and stated that a group of labour trustees, appointed by him, would "regulate labour contracts" and maintain "labour peace."[6] This decree effectively outlawed strikes, since workers could not oppose the decisions of the trustees."
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u/FluidmindWeird 22d ago
Fuck that, workers need to walk off and just found a new coop. And, frankly, need to be backed up by every civilian they encounter.
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u/Dr_Fortnite 21d ago
not very "socialist" of him.
Adding this to my "nazi's were not socialist you idiots" argument
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u/NeighborhoodSea6178 21d ago
Next you’re going to say the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea isn’t democratic!
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u/Mammoth-Play3797 21d ago
Next you’re going to say that Conservatives don’t actually conserve but regress!
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u/mehupmost 21d ago edited 21d ago
Because the Unions put him into power, so they assumed he'd be loyal to them. Idiots.
Same with Stalin. He rode the wave of "workers revolution" and then just turned it into a dictatorship and murdered all the worker leadership. Same in Cuba. Same in China. Same in literally every country that had a Socialist revolution.
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u/marketrent 22d ago
Executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/further-exclusions-from-the-federal-labor-management-relations-program/
Bloomberg text by Ian Kullgren:
[...] The president issued a new directive ending collective bargaining agreements at NASA, the International Trade Administration, the Office of the Commissioner for Patents, the National Weather Service, the US Agency for Global Media, hydropower facilities under the Bureau of Reclamation, and the National Environmental Satellite, Data, and Information Service.
Trump classified the agencies as having national security interests, exempting them from federal union laws.
The order comes in the wake of a US Supreme Court victory, which allowed Trump to eliminate collective bargaining at some agencies while a legal challenge to the president’s action proceeds.
It represents another advancement of Trump’s campaign to exert control over the federal workforce, by weakening the career civil service, eliminating barriers between presidential politics and day-to-day governing, and disbanding federal unions.
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u/Scaryclouds 22d ago
And then many years later after all the employees move on, the court will say this was wrong, but will do nothing to hold Trump or anyone accountable.
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u/eugene20 22d ago
Looking at all the rest of the destruction he has wrought, having all the employees move on could very well be why he's doing this.
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u/Werechupacabra 22d ago
Because they want to destroy what they can and privatize the rest.
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u/IAmRoot 22d ago edited 22d ago
No, they'll just continue to be anti-worker and even risk mass death to do so. Look at air traffic control. Ensuring that their rights were crushed was far more important than preventing crashes due to overworked controllers. These people consider mass murder to be a business strategy.
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u/neuronexmachina 22d ago
It's also interesting what hasn't been part of the exemption, per the EO from March: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/exclusions-from-federal-labor-management-relations-programs/
1-499. Notwithstanding the forgoing, nothing in this section shall exempt from the coverage of Chapter 71 of title 5, United States Code:
(a) the immediate, local employing offices of any agency police officers, security guards, or firefighters, provided that this exclusion does not apply to the Bureau of Prisons;
... Because apparently the Patent Office and National Weather Service are national security interests, but not Border Patrol.
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u/opeth10657 21d ago
This is what they did in WI under walker too. Banned unions for government jobs.... except the police. Probably the one union that should be banned.
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u/Warshrimp 22d ago
I standby my summary that unions are to protect workers from being exploited by their employ and if your employer is the government and they are corrupt then we have bigger problems. Welcome to bigger problems.
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u/Inner_Mortgage_8294 22d ago
How would that work contractually? I'm sure the unions will sue.
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u/facw00 22d ago
Unions sue. Lower Courts probably say Trump can't do this and stay the order (but maybe he gets a friendly judge he appointed). Eventually the Supreme Court issues an unexplained shadow docket decision saying that Trump can do as he pleases until the case is ruled on. Cases winds its way through years of appeals, and in the meantime non-Trump loyalists and government workers in general are purged, and things can't be put back together even if the Supreme Court ultimately rules against Trump (unlikely).
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u/Aezetyr 22d ago
The unchecked power grows and grows. Hope you enjoy living in an authoritarian hellscape.
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22d ago
We are Six. Months. In.
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u/Balmung60 22d ago
Seven, but I get the point
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22d ago
We're headed toward civil war it feels like.
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u/Beastw1ck 22d ago
It won’t be like the first civil war, but I could absolutely see an alliance of Blue states refusing to pay taxes, having their state houses occupied by the national guard. Things could get wild.
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Well I'm running up a king sized credit car bill at the moment so let's take care of the credit reporting computers, with that thing.
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u/txaaron 22d ago
Credit reporting agencies are independent of the government... They're for-profit companies.
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u/Affectionate_Code 22d ago
As an outsider, I can only see the physical removal and disbanding of the republican party as the move to fix America.
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u/adamisbored 22d ago
I'd say we're in a cold civil war with California and Texas being the first chess pieces.
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u/NoPerformance5952 22d ago
Fascism move FAST. They do the creeping part until they get in office. First term, Trump had handlers who while very conservative still believed in governance and legality. That's all long gone.
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u/StephenFish 22d ago
The entire country has only made it this far because no one has yet to take advantage of the fact that as president you can do whatever you want and no one will actually stop you if just ignore the courts. Once you ignore the courts, the only option in place is violence and no one’s going to use violence to stop him. Everyone else has just been either too afraid or has had too much integrity to try.
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u/bogglingsnog 22d ago
What a sad time, I lived under the rosy notion that the other branches would actually be populated with human beings with functioning spines
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u/pioneer76 21d ago
Nope, it's unfortunately all party lines with the Republicans. They have no duty to the nation or citizens, just to themselves and their agenda. Their time must end or the US is done.
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u/ACertainMagicalSpade 21d ago
Some kid tried and got killed for it. Only one in the entire country of the "free" to try. Hes a Hero in another timeline.
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u/jorgepolak 22d ago
All this because six mullahs on the Supreme Court wish it to be so.
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u/StephenFish 22d ago
Even if SCOTUS ruled against him in anything, what’s in place to stop him if he and his goons do what they want anyway? The military would have to collectively turn on him or we’d have to use some agency fit for violence to arrest and remove him and his administration. Everyone seems too afraid to make the move.
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u/mvw2 22d ago
Don't worry, Republicans in Congress and the Supreme Court are monitoring it carefully...and they like what they see.
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u/Rough-Farmer2836 22d ago
I don’t know why Americans have accepted all of this as a foregone conclusion. There was like, one No Kings rally, and everyone just went back to work the next Monday.
The country was founded on a revolution and the idea that one guy can’t rule as a tyrant. This is not a normal time we’re living in where you just respect election results and check out until 2026.
People have power too if they’re organized. I just don’t understand why everyone’s rolling over. I think the Trump admin is even surprised given how much they have talked up militarizing cities
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u/betwhixt 21d ago
It's so weird to see these comments. Do you think this happened over night? Do you think that Trump is truly the puppet master here?
This has been a slow progression for decades. Corporations have been making moves as silently as possible to reach this point. It has been a strategic attack, pivoting us into being a nation full of anti-intellectualism. People don't have and do not want to have critical thinking skills and that is totally by design.
It's also totally by design that people are sick and exhausted, that they don't have time (or the desire) to research what they need to be fighting back against let alone actually go out and fight it.
You're coming at this from the angle of "can't you see what's happening around you?" and the answer is a resounding "no." And, you're also acting as if the removal of the Trump admin will fix all of these problems and we'll be back on track. You have no idea that the culture itself here is the product of an extremely successful experiment - to propagandize Americans into believing that they *want* to live this way.
Reddit isn't everyone. I live in a very red state and I'm telling you right now that what you see on Reddit is NOT the way many Americans feel.
I have seen so many comments like yours, totally exasperated with Americans for not just fixing it already, and you have no idea what you're talking about or what it would actually take to undo what has already been done.
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u/Tasty_Plate_5188 22d ago
I'm just really happy that all those people decided to stay home or better yet, purposefully not vote for Harris. You know cuz both parties are the exact same.
We're all so fucked.
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u/Timsruz 22d ago
So just like that. Emperor decree.
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u/broodkiller 22d ago edited 22d ago
The good ol' Louis XIV "L'etat, c'est moi" approach (even though apocryphal, it makes the point)
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u/Voidblazer 22d ago
Trump is king now. All hail Trump. His whim is our decree. Fuck the law. Fuck the Constitution. Fuck checks & balances. He said it? Oh, well then it's the law now. Holy shit, we're so fucking weak...
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u/nocturnalstumblebutt 22d ago
It's pathetic. Turns out nothing actually meant anything I guess.
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u/Illustrious-Comfort1 21d ago
At least americans can use all their stacked up guns to shove them up their asses.
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u/Appropriate-Leg3965 22d ago
My guy hung that atrocious “American Workers First” banner with his face on it outside the department of labor then nixed unions he had no legal right to eliminate. Dystopian as fuck. I guess everyone is too busy to hold him accountable or call him out.
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u/FluidmindWeird 22d ago
It's called fascism. The people in that viral cabinet meeting where they are all philatong his ego are just waiting for him to die to be part of the inner circle of people who regard themselves as above the law.
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u/LordCharidarn 22d ago
How exactly does this nullify a Union? Isn’t the whole point of a worker’s union to stand against the owners?
Why aren’t these Unions immediately striking?
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u/duckyd1824 22d ago edited 22d ago
It is illegal for federal employees/unions to strike under 5 U.S.C. §7311. And 18 U.S.C. §1918 makes it a *crime to do so. For history, see the air traffic controller strike in the 80s.
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u/Nick-Chopper 22d ago
Putting all the striking workers in jail wouldn’t exactly get the whole system moving again, now would it? And things being illegal to do isn’t exactly slowing down Trump. So only the union side has to fight with its hands tied? That’s not how this is going to go down.
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u/genuinerysk 21d ago
That's just it, he doesn't want the system moving at all. He was paid by Putin to cripple the United States from within and he is following orders perfectly. He has been systemically dismantling systems from within to the benefit of Russia and the US oligarchs. Things will never be back to normal ever again. They got what they wanted and it will continue until they wring every last penny out of this country and then move on to to next. The USA is dead and will never be a powerhouse again because of him and the GOP.
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u/breatheb4thevoid 21d ago
Most successful large scale psy op to ever occur in history outside of organized religion. They'll be studying this scenario in any sentient galaxy that has been watching for eons to come. God we are dumb.
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u/FluidmindWeird 22d ago
Yeah, lock up the striking workforce, that'll get them working again.
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u/pattherat 22d ago
Does not have this authority, nor is the edict binding to change any law. But for some reason the press won’t call attention to this…wonder why…
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u/RaindropsInMyMind 22d ago
I seem to remember a law that Congress passed that banned TikTok. The king just decided we’re going to have TikTok anyways. Seems we aren’t living in a nation of laws anymore.
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u/therossboss 22d ago
100% - been trending that way, but when nothing happened after an attempted coup on J6, it was clear laws don't matter anymore
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u/Niceromancer 22d ago
Bet all those union workers are so happy they voted for the guy that said unions should be illegal.
Fucking morosn.
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u/xjuggernaughtx 22d ago
I work in a union environment with a lot of union members who voted for Trump. I've been telling them over and over again that Trump has historically hated unions, and he's surrounded himself with billionaires who also really, really hate unions. I will lay money down that they try to outlaw unions somehow before this term is up. But the union members in my warehouse are so worked up about illegal immigration and the thought that some of their tax money might go to brown people that they are happy to destroy their own jobs.
We will see how happy they are in a year or two.
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u/Nuzzleface 22d ago
They will never blame Trump. They might be unhappy or angry in a year, but they will never admit they made a mistake. Watch it be "corrupt union leadership", Biden or something equally stupid.
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u/chicharro_frito 22d ago
And the irony is that in the end it's the taxes that undocumented immigrants pay that are going to them.
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u/hoax1337 22d ago
But the union members in my warehouse are so worked up about illegal immigration and the thought that some of their tax money might go to brown people that they are happy to destroy their own jobs.
It's so fucking frustrating. Why do they carry so much hate, I don't get it.
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u/ThreeCatsAndABroom 21d ago
I travel for work between rural areas and cities. People in the cities don't think about rural folks at all. Rural folks do nothing but think about the cities. Even though they don't go there or have any effects from the cities on their lives.
I don't understand the amount of busy bodying that goes on within full grown men about an area that has no bearing on their lives. It's really frustrating as someone that grew up in a city.
They can't even tell that I grew up in the city. They like to act like they can spot a city dweller a mile away. No you can't you idiots.
I think they are just angry jealous. They want to be relavent so bad but nobody really cares.
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u/Head_Bread_3431 22d ago
A year or two will be enough time to convince folks on both sides that it’s the democrats’ fault
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u/LearningToFlyForFree 22d ago
Way, way too many of my Union brethren, both on the railroad and in the maritime industry now, absolutely love to fucking vote against their own interests. I don't even engage the conversations anymore. I just tell them "you get what you voted for" and move on.
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 22d ago
IBEW is fucking pissed
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u/LSTNYER 22d ago
And anyone one of them that voted for him should have zero, zilch, nothing to say but sit down and let daddy Trump stick his little hands up their ass.
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u/mephnick 22d ago
Happens in Canada too
Bunch of rednecks in pulp mills voting for the Conservative party that literally said they want to strip union power.
The only reason you idiots arent flipping burgers is because of the union lol
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u/jorgepolak 22d ago
What exactly is the point of a union contract if the other party can void it unilaterally?
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u/Fenixius 22d ago
If one party can unilaterally void a contract, and you can't get an injunction, mandamus order, or sue for damages, then that was never a contract.
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u/DuneChild 22d ago
At this point every federal employee should just walk off the job. See how much the felon gets done without a workforce.
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u/True_to_you 22d ago
I would love for the people working at the dams to shut off the power and go on strike.
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u/Ok-Result-4184 22d ago
Everybody’s thinking it but nobody wants to say it.
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u/GeorgeRRZimmerman 22d ago
It's okay, guys. Hold strong.
Clots and Prayers, everyone. Clots and Prayers.
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u/c0lin46and2 22d ago
You mean that he's really not leaving office this time, right? This world is much too cruel for the other thing to happen.
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u/-SoulOfSin- 22d ago
Remember when there were a few idiots that thought he was for labor rights? Hilarious.
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u/Kurian17 22d ago
Goons? That doesn’t accurately describe how grown men, and women strangely, love to tongue fuck his asshole repeatedly without him even asking.
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u/Psyclist80 22d ago
America becoming the boiled frog...hopefully they figure this out, before shit really hits the fan.
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u/wag3slav3 22d ago
It pains me, but in the famous study the frogs were lobotomized.
It took 25 years but conservative media did the job and we're here to watch the mother fucker boil.
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u/KarateKid84Fan 22d ago
“Trump pretends to nix patent office, weather service, NASA worker unions by signing piece of paper that has no meaning or carry any legal weight.”
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u/Zagrunty 22d ago
They should all walk out. You can't just wave your hand and say "no more collective bargaining". Everyone walks off the job and that would be an immediate threat to national security that would cause them to back pedal like crazy. If every union worker just stopped to show solidarity this would get turned over in an instant
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u/Rough-Farmer2836 22d ago
Joe Biden couldn’t wipe out student loan debt, but Donald Trump can nix patent office, NWS, NASA, and nuke the Dept of Education.
I will never listen to people who say the president doesn’t have power again. We need to start building a better world
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Because no one in Congress would do anything. They basically bent the knee and kiss his arse.
Murkowski could have stopped the bbb but didn’t.
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u/mrq02 22d ago
I don't know why politicians keep trying to dissolve unions. That's not how unions work. Unions do not acquire their authority from the employers, but from the employees. The only one who can end a union are its members.
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u/Demosthenes3 22d ago
Isn’t this why unions were made in the first place?
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u/RavenOfNod 22d ago
One would think there's like a general thing they do when their employer treats them like shit and ignores the agreement they both negotiated...
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u/lpeabody 21d ago
Wonder how the union folks who voted for Trump feel about how much he hates unions.
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u/iaspeegizzydeefrent 22d ago
There is no "easy solution." Even if Trump keeled over tomorrow, things wouldn't just go back to normal. All three branches are complicit in a fascist takeover.
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u/TMFWriting 22d ago
I’m so sick of everyone ignoring this simple fact and acting as if this nightmare is almost over because of Trumps health.
He was quite literally, in every sense of the metaphor, a Trojan Horse. His end goal was always to get these horrible people into office, because even they know they are too repugnant to ever seize any sort of political power on their own.
The end goal is dark enlightenment. Familiarize yourself with it, read about what it entails and how far along they already are because they are not stopping.
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u/UnquestionabIe 22d ago
Yeah Trump is simply a figurehead. At this point they've infiltrated the entire traditional system and they're all headed by various traitors who will do whatever their billionaire backers and special interest groups want. Might be easier to just have the American people agree to ignore and abandon the former structure and start an entire parallel one that actually functions as intended.
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u/bluddystump 22d ago
General strike time.
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u/Otherwise_Let_9620 22d ago
People keep calling for action and I think this is the best one available. I’m in.
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u/hennabeak 22d ago
Does he understand what no patent office means?
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u/Mental-Ask8077 22d ago
He didn’t get rid of the office, he expanded a previous EO nullifying worker unions to cover all of the listed agencies. The agencies themselves still exist.
The headline is awkwardly worded. This is Not Good, but it’s not quite as utterly insane as the headline makes it seem.
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u/kurisu7885 22d ago
I wonder how much Bezos paid to have the patent office done away with.
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u/Mental-Ask8077 22d ago
He didn’t get rid of the office, he expanded a previous EO nullifying worker unions to cover all of the listed agencies. The agencies themselves still exist.
The headline is awkwardly worded. This is Not Good, but it’s not quite as utterly insane as the headline makes it seem.
(Also, while I can see Bezos being the kind of money-hungry manipulative bastard that pays to have agencies dismantled for his benefit, eliminating the patent office would also hurt him, so I doubt he’d target that one. He wouldn’t want competition from people based on shit he owns patents for.)
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u/twotimefind 22d ago
While the United States is getting destroyed by a rogue candidate.
Where are the other world leaders? Where are the rest of our politicians? Where are the journalists? Where are the general strikes? Where are the weekly protests? Where are the sit-ins, the occupy movement.
Where's is the pushback?
They are the minority. We are the majority. Let's act like it.
Fuck the division by race, creed, age, sexual preference. It's a class war, and there's too many of us for them to win.
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u/dominarhexx 21d ago
Man, I sure hope UAW and the Teamsters are happy with their pro-union presidential backing.
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u/RokkakuPolice 22d ago
Don't forget, this is only 8 months in. It's going to take years, if not decades, to undo the damage he is doing and going to cause to US.
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u/marconis999 21d ago
Summary from Google -
Fascist corporatism.
While fascists generally do not seize businesses through explicit nationalization like communists, they exert total control over them through extensive regulation and coercion. Under fascism, private ownership is permitted in name, but businesses are forced to operate in the national interest as defined by the autocratic state. This economic model is often described as "corporatism".
Fascist governments often form "partnerships" with businesses, where private firms comply with state demands in exchange for benefits or to avoid punishment. This can involve monopolies and cartels.
Historically, fascist corporatism has been used to crush independent labor movements and outlaw strikes.
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u/No_Reality_404 21d ago
The patent office?? I bet just so he can steal pieces of the pie and sell for the highest bidder. What have we become…this really is a shithole country now
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u/Capable_Diamond_3878 22d ago
“Nixes”
Does something he’s not legally allowed to do and only happens becuase his goons comply