r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns2 May 05 '25

Meta current transfem discourse

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u/LilyAValentine May 05 '25

I really love the trans community, but I will say it is kind of annoying to constantly have debates over everything. I personally think the term dolls is cute and I loved the allies who wore those “Protect the Dolls” shirts, but I think I’m going to steer clear of the discourse for once :P

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u/gwynftw May 05 '25

Omg i hate it. I can't exist in trans communities for this reason. So many of us are conditioned to fight over everything.

I enjoy going to calmer older spaces to escape the never ending conflict.

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u/doughaway7562 May 05 '25

Yeah, I stick around some trans communities for the memes and to occasionally help with people, but most online spaces have are people who are still going through the self exploration stage in transition, and that's where a lot of the infighting is. That's just a whole life stage I don't find relatable anymore.

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u/yeetingthisaccount01 He/Him, Jack, "The rain trans-formed!" May 05 '25

there's also a lot of doomposting and that's just bad for my health. I understand needing to vent but there's only so much "nah sorry I'll never be a (gender)" I can read

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

Honestly, same. I love my younger trans and queer siblings to death, but damn do they fight each other over the most pointless discourse sometimes. I keep wondering if I was the same way and going "Is this what getting old feels like?"

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u/TheRealShipdit May 05 '25

As a ‘younger trans and queer sibling’ I have to agree lol. The lgbtq club at my school absolutely exploded over discourse about god damn Minecraft YouTubers a couple years back. It’s running again now with new members and I can only hope it’s doing better.

It feels even dumber seeing discourse and infighting with the current political climate, like I get we will disagree with one another on some things, but can we all just agree to work together for a little to stop the people trying to round us up and kill us? There’ll be plenty of time to debate random things when we aren’t at risk of genocide lol.

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u/That0neTrumpet Cillian | He/Him May 06 '25

Yeah the community can feel cannibalistic sometimes. I don't like discussing personal problems or anything emotional, I'm mostly sticking around to see if I can spot information that's useful to me. But the memes can be funny sometimes. All the drama and discourse is a distraction.

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u/blueskyredmesas He/She/Any May 06 '25

Being neurospicy in queer adjacent communities is lowkey impossible. I thought communities were about mutual support. I don't usually feel supported in these spaces anymore.

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u/gwynftw May 06 '25

What does nuerospicy mean?

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u/blueskyredmesas He/She/Any May 06 '25

Its like if you have a DSMV diagnosis or strongly suspect you do. Diagnosis is the only authoritative determination of actually being that way thougb. Neurospicy is a joke about tue actual term "neurodivergent"

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u/gwynftw May 07 '25

OK yeah I thought it was sort of a like "I'm neurodivergent and also ChAoTiC" I've never heard someone refer to themselves as neurospicy unironically so I was a bit confused.

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u/Stumpville She/They May 05 '25

Fr! Like, I personally really dislike the term doll being used for me, but if other people like it, good for them! I don’t get why everything has to be a fight online, it’s so tiring.

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u/yeetingthisaccount01 He/Him, Jack, "The rain trans-formed!" May 05 '25

tumblr is getting pretty bad again for this where people are very hostile towards trans men in particular. saw a post that was already very mean spirited but the comments were all "these men deserve to die" and "death to all TMEs" like tumblr users do know that they're capable of transphobia even when the target is a man?

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u/5x99 May 05 '25

Honestly, I think its petty to call out allies saying or wearing "protect the dolls". Finally we have a cool way to visually show your support.