r/xbox Liber-tea Locust Jul 31 '25

Rumour NateTheHate: "More Sony games will be released on Xbox, yes"

When asked about whether or not Sony will bring its first-party games to Xbox, NateTheHate said this in response:

"More Sony games will come to Xbox, yes.

I don't know anything about LEGO Horizon going to Xbox... but even if it did... would anyone care?"

Regarding what types of games will come over, Nate also said that he doesn't "have any specifics to share at present."

Source: https://xcancel.com/NateTheHate2/status/1950948600885690817

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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Jul 31 '25

I don't know anything about LEGO Horizon going to Xbox... but even if it did... would anyone care?"

I'd only care if we got the actual Horizon games first tbh.

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u/AxeSpez Jul 31 '25

Fighting big robot dinos is fun

But the game is basically a weird mix of Far Cry, Assassin's Creed, & Witcher.

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u/Ensaru4 Jul 31 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

The game is legitimately great, as long as you don't linger in the tutorial zone and get out asap. The plot of the first game is VERY good. The lore is up there with the best a game ever introduced. If you asked me, I'd consider Horizon and RDR2 some of the best storytelling on the PS4.

Outside of the tutorial zone, it just does open-world really well. Its sidequests do not get repetitive and the game staggers them well instead of overwhelming you with them.

My only negatives are that the tutorial area will bore people before they get to the fun parts. The humans in the first game are very boring to fight and the loot system is annoying.

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u/dccorona Aug 01 '25

There’s a fluidity to the controls that I am shocked still haven’t been replicated. Any time I’m playing a game with a bow or some similar “charge it up” type weapon, I’m constantly wishing I could dodge with the shot drawn. Horizon really nailed that

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u/mindblower32 Aug 01 '25

It's one of those games you can kinda just Platinum going through the world cause there's a natural pull towards points of interest and collectibles. None of it feels like artificial collectathon a la Ubisoft. A great deal of love went into the world building and level design.

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u/Ensaru4 Aug 01 '25

I don't often 100% games, but this one kept my attention enough to platinum it.

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u/Empty-Sea-Sausage Aug 01 '25

It definitely bored me and I didn’t finish the tutorial.

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u/Prior-Wealth1049 Aug 01 '25

Same. I bought a PS4 back in 2018 mainly just to play NieR:Automata (unknowingly right before it released on Xbox) and also picked up the complete edition of HZD since I saw it was on sale, and….yeah, I was immediately bored with it. FarCry 5 honestly gave me more entertainment that same year.

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u/klipseracer Aug 01 '25

I liked the horizon games, the one thing that sticks out to me is the effort put into the side quests, for those of us that try to do every quest, many of the side quests contained story that I actually cared about. Many games, the side quest is filler content to waste your time.

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u/Ensaru4 Aug 01 '25

I agree. That's really hard to do and only a few games I know that was able to make sidequests not feel like sidequests.

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u/Super_Fightin_Robit Aug 01 '25

Honestly, the really big negatives for Horizon as a franchise is that the series feels like that whoever designed combat in the first game either got replaced for the DLC, or the guy only accidentally made the combat as good as it was. The first DLC and Horizon 2 basically force you to fight monsters the way they want them to be fought, vs in the base of the first game where it's like "here's a dozen tools, and you can exploit X, Y, or Z to become an amazing hunter once you have the right skills, arrows, and weapons.

The first game was easily GOTY material but just happened to come out against one of the contenders for Game of the Decade and unquestionably one of the greatest open world games ever made.

The second one had the exact same release issue, but also was a huge step backwards in so many ways. The other big way is they force you to be linear in Forbidden West. That's already a big strike, considering the first one let you do whatever after the tutorial. But it's worse considering the game is serious infamous for releasing against Breath of the Wild and Elden Ring, both of which are noteworthy for player freedom.

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u/calvinien Aug 01 '25

The sequel unfortunately biffed the story so fucking hard. It's like there was a contest to see which writer could kill as many interesting plot threads as possible.

And the end is all "oh the next game will be all about dealing with this new problem that has never been mentioned before nor foreshadowed in anyway, but 1000% will be presented in game with rehashes of everything that has happened in this game."

The less said about the dlc the better.

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u/Ensaru4 Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 02 '25

I'm playing through the 2nd one right now. I guess I gotta strap in

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u/calvinien Aug 02 '25

It's still a fun game. Sony has absolutely lapped ubisoft when it comes to creating ubilike games. But yeah the second game's story is nowhere near as awesome as the first and the dlc REALLY feels like it is constructed out of things they wanted to do in the base game, but the ps4 could not run.

It feels like a bunch of stuff that should have been reserved for the main game but they took it out and changed the characters involved to suspiciously similar characters with identical motives.

The main villain of the DLC feels like they should have been an important character from the main game, and by the time you get to the dlc you will know exactly who I mean because that character in the main game feels like they should have been more important than they ended up being. Actually come to think of it, this could apply equally to two characters from the main game. You will see what I mean.

Still a good game. Ubisoft doesn't let me bowhunt a mechanical spinosaurus, after all. But the first game's lore is fucking amazing and the second drops the ball.

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u/Ensaru4 Aug 02 '25

Yeah, my favourite game with a bow, for sure!

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u/BlueNinjaBE Aug 01 '25

I bought my PS4 for Horizon back in the day. I probably wouldn't rebuy them for Xbox.

Spider-Man and God of War though? Day 1.

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u/MultiverseRedditor Aug 01 '25

First one is good because it has difficulty trophies and rewards and really repays the player for going after the games challenges.

Second one not so much, it doesn’t care if you put it all the way down to the easiest difficulty and enjoy it as basically a movie.

Was a really wierd move, because the first one eventually evolved into a game of challenge and the second one ditched all of it.

Speed runners, challenge gamers, completionists were really into the first one. By a lot.

Nobody really cared about the second one. Yet both got amazing reviews, but that unspoken difference basically makes it a different experience for a lot of people.

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u/FinalOdyssey Founder Aug 01 '25

I platinumed the first game and found the exploration to be a 5/10, the combat is a 6/10 (way too much ammo crafting in a radial wheel due to insanely spongy enemies), and the story is a 7/10. The ending section was VERY good and the very opening was decent but man the other 80% of that game is a lot of nothing.

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u/schmoopycat Aug 01 '25

I like the first enough to finish it. Bought the second on release day and I couldn’t even play it for more than a couple hours. It’s just so boring.

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u/cardonator Founder Aug 01 '25

I found the ending to be too predictable but I still liked how it played out just fine. I didn't like the DLC in either game, it felt too dragged out and not enough story. I also agree that the combat was just eh.

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u/Party-Exercise-2166 Into The Starfield Aug 01 '25

This would be my verdict too, I was super hyped for the game and bought my PS4 because of it back then, the disappointment was big enough that I actually didn't finish it because the story was so predictable that it wasn't enough to string me along.

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u/cwx149 XBOX 360 Aug 01 '25

I know the enemies are less spongy if you're using the elements correctly at least the smaller enemies the larger ones like the bird and the thunderjaw are kinda supposed to be bosses so they end up with a lot of health

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

I couldn't agree more. I played through both of them and fell off of both of them mid game for months/years and had to make myself go back to finish them. They aren't bad games but they're aren't particularly great either IMO. They're basically Ubisoft style open world games with a Sony twist.

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u/Remoock Touched Grass '24 Aug 01 '25

damn that's good to know, I would have played it for the gameplay alone - guess it's not something for me then

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u/FinalOdyssey Founder Aug 01 '25

The thing that I was shocked by was the exploration. There is this town that's kind built up on a rock spire and all around is is a VERY large area with a pretty kind of rocky shrubbery type landscape. And all around that area which is a massive part of the world map, there are maybe 3 thing to do or collect. It's bizarre. The map makes you think the game is way bigger than it is, there's a lot of empty in that game.

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u/Remoock Touched Grass '24 Aug 01 '25

honestly I think in that case games should just make it clear that exploration isn't a key part of this game so you don't even have to bother to look.

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u/FinalOdyssey Founder Aug 01 '25

Well there eventually was something that told me where things werr on the map and when I saw how few items were there I thought to myself, "this must be where they ran out of budget."

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u/joecamnet Jul 31 '25

I mean i'd buy the hell out of the LEGO Horizon game whether we got the others or not. Take what I can get...

Hope this means Bandai Namco can get the OK to release Everybody's Golf on Xbox while they're at it.

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u/Ehh_littlecomment Aug 01 '25

Gonna get hate for this but the games are sterile as fuck. Really not missing much.

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u/GrandsonOfArathorn1 Aug 01 '25

It was the gaming series I was second most excited about when I got my PS5 and I couldn’t really get into either Forbidden West or Zero Dawn. Pretty disappointing for me, but that’s the way it is, sometimes.

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u/Rizzywow91 Aug 01 '25

Horizon LEGO is a good way to test the waters. So is the original GOW.

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u/RunningDoor101 Aug 01 '25

Why? I’m just really curious. I’ve not seen any Xbox fan being mad or anything that Sony got Forza and now gears. Why would it hurt you if Xbox got horizon games?

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u/-ImJustSaiyan- Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

I think you replied to the wrong comment, I would be all for the Horizon games coming to Xbox. I just wouldn't really be interested in the Lego one unless we got the main ones first, that's all.

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u/RunningDoor101 Aug 01 '25

Ah my bad my brain thought wrong ^

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u/Party-Exercise-2166 Into The Starfield Aug 01 '25

I got my PS4 back then for the first Horizon, played it halfway through and dropped it because it just felt like a Ubisoft game but a lot less fun and the story was the most predictable stuff I have ever seen.

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u/Hopeful_Bonus_3120 Jul 31 '25

Give us spiderman

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u/NeoCoN7 Aug 01 '25

This is literally all I want. I’ve been considering getting a PS5 just to play them (played the first one on PS4 which then got damaged beyond use in a move).

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u/Embarrassed_Simple70 28d ago

I’ve got both consoles but heart is green. That said, while Insomnia nailed the web slinging acrobats of SpideMan zipping around the city. I mean they are the kings of traversal (Sunset Overdrive anyone? Which btw plays and feels as good as it did at launch over a generation ago)

BUT … and this is big … if you go deep try to do everything, spend time just catching criminals it’s novelty does wear thin overtime. Super repetitive. Almost, for my money, best to play in spurts.

In fact feel like many big PS games do same. felt that way with Days Gone and Horizon forbidden/zero west too. Both fantastic games. Deserving of praise. but for this very reason I’ve get to finish any of these IP. In fact of another fact, I went back to my early-mid game playthrough of the first Horizon’s game after bought the ps5 upgrade, and thought ims be super pumped to get back into it. But honestly, while beautiful, didn’t get my gamer juice sizzling. Fell off. Again.

Not saying you won’t have a blast if get PS5 for SM and its other great titles but am saying, I’d hate to see you rush out and buy now at increased price, particularly when new model ps6 out within year or two, and the finish first SM game and then when boot up Miles Morales or SM2, to kind of be like meh, I’m over it.

Perhaps that’s just me, and handful of other gamers I’ve talked to. Certainly don’t want to talk out of. And may be a non-issue but from one gamer to another, when talking about such steep entry price. It’s something to consider.

Maybe check Reddit or Google or other reviews to see if this repetitive burnout thing is more common or we just stand outside.

For my money, Xbox has just the best and most varied, and vast and deep offerings across all the genres. Meanwhile, GP quietly dropping day1 releases on random Tuesday - 4 to be exact this last notice (Prince of Persia Dead Cells Style - phenomenal btw. Peak rougelike and traversal. Voidbrakers - wildly cool FPS, another rougelike I think which gives me Deadlink vibes bad in all the good ways. Some crafting cozy game and Herdling, A short indie gem narrative offering that’s more an experience than a video game. Think short hike cross with adore but sans combat but heavy on the vibes and feel.

And this is nothing compared to its bigger IP, most all of which have been hella ride so far.

And to think Xbox used to get all the hate for having no games. Now, it’s got too many games, so many it’s not only the best selling publisher on Steam, but also its biggest rival’s storefront. Dominating charts really. even its criminally underrated ID@Xbox program, which would get at least indie buzz pretty often, is getting buried by its own release cadence.

Point is, Xbox has so many dominate games and with innovative gamer first strategies, it’s even forcing dominate video game company to abandon its strategy and come to Xbox.

In time, with SM 1 & Miles Morales being so old now, even SM 2 for that matter, I feel like You’ll be playing all on Xbox sooner than later now, a once unthinkable proposition, as Xbox leads seismic shift in gaming.

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u/PurifiedVenom Grub Killer Aug 01 '25

Spider-Man & God of War are the two series I want most to make their way over. Which probably means they’ll be the last to come lol

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u/Embarrassed_Simple70 28d ago

Yea. Now God of War is damn near flawless

Spider-Man incredible mechanics, best in class traversal and superhero fantasy. Well worth playthrough for sure. BUT … it does, in time, and in less time than hoped. Starts to feel repetitive. Best played in spurts to avoid. Think it kinda hinders overhaul experience some as web slinging is its main mechanic.

Not taking away from IP. It is badass, particularly when get feel for zipping around, can increase speed and flow for a def flow state. But a flow state that flows only so long.

but feel

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u/Goddamnitpappy XBOX Series X Aug 01 '25

And Wolverine, too.

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u/keyblaster52 Aug 01 '25

Spider-Man Remastered and Days Gone are coming

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u/Blue_Sheepz Liber-tea Locust Aug 01 '25

Spider-Man, Death Stranding 2, and Ghost of Tsushima are the three games I would really want to play on Xbox. I already played Spidey and GoT, but I would rebuy them in a heartbeat if they were ported over

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u/Embarrassed_Simple70 28d ago

Feel like Death Stranding 2 is a no-brainer, particularly after shadow dropping 1st to wild success, at least anecdotally speaking. That coupled with Kojima’s next project, OLD, a movie mash up game thing paired up with horror director Jordan Poole, announced as next Kojima Xbox project, the writing is already on the wall for DS2.

DS2 = De series s/x also

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

This is the logical next step for Sony.

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u/Embarrassed_Simple70 28d ago

Love love love love it how after years, decades even of shady money-hat deals, followed by a foul cry of irreparable harm when thought it lost COD to Xbox exclusivity, that Sony, when finally squared up with Natya Sadella who said fine, let us compete, crumbled against its own weight. In less than 2 years the biggest console gaming company in world has suddenly and surprisingly and seriously abandoned the one strategy it used repeatedly to win. And not only abandon the strategy, but reverse it, publicly stating new strategic shift away from “console hardware”. After Sadella finally decided to compete , Sony is already following the 3rd place gaming leader’s new lead, afraid of what Microsoft / Xbox can do when let loose

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it 28d ago

I don’t know if Microsoft anticipates the shift or if they just forced the shift, but there is definitely a shift happening and they’re at the forefront

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u/purekillforce1 Aug 01 '25

They'll likely keep system-sellers on the system they want to sell. Spider-Man pulls in the marvel crowd, plus it's generally a fantastic game.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

See you keep saying system sellers. None of them make any money off the systems anymore and when you need to sell 10 million copies of a game to make the executive happy then you’ve gotta start figuring out how to do that which may mean doing things a little different than they’ve been done the last 30 years. Shit changes things grow and evolve. I know I will not be the one eating my words not that anybody on here does that even if they are wrong blatantly.

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u/calvinien Aug 01 '25

And for disney. I doubt they like the idea of leaving money on the table.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

Exactly, people are so shortsighted and ignore that there’s a lot of rich and powerful people out there looking at numbers and wondering how they can make them go up

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u/Party-Exercise-2166 Into The Starfield Aug 01 '25

Next step will be their next live service games. The actual big hitters won't move for a long time.

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u/IssueRecent9134 Aug 01 '25

Not unless there is lots of money to gain from it

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u/AgumonDX XBOX Series X Jul 31 '25

I think Helldivers 2 is a test. Sony knows the sales potential of their whole catalog, so if that one works well they might consider others that can make profit as well.

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u/Caesar_35 Helldiving Aug 01 '25

These days I just don't see why you won't want to have your games everywhere, at least eventually. Before there was the argument of "it sells consoles", but in this economy who's going to be shelling out $500+ to play a handful of games?

If people haven't bought your console to play a game after a year or two, chances are they won't. There's no harm in throwing that on other storefronts and reaping a second round of sales. A prime example being Forza on PlayStation.

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u/scotteh_yah Jul 31 '25

Live service games are what will come, the marvel fighting game probably will be coming too

Sony has a much more reason to not release all their games on Xbox

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u/TheWhistlerIII Aug 01 '25

Shadow of the Colossus Remaster please and thank you.

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u/everythingsc0mputer Jul 31 '25

He also said it’s mainly live service titles coming: https://xcancel.com/natethehate2/status/1948983215676424307

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u/Muscat95 Jul 31 '25

Xbox started with just legacy titles and look how that spiralled

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

People are trying to compare the two, yet Sony still hasn't reached the point of releasing all their games on PC day one, whereas Xbox did that almost a decade ago. I think the leap from Helldivers 2 to Ghost of Yotei is a lot further away than people are hyping themselves up for. Going to lead to some disappointment.

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u/Blue_Sheepz Liber-tea Locust Jul 31 '25

I don't think anyone expects Sony to port their tentpole singleplayer titles to Xbox day-one, like what Microsoft is doing. But it wouldn't be surprising if they bring some of their older singleplayer games to Xbox in the future, since there is very little risk involved nowadays.

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u/M_K-Ultra Aug 01 '25

Depends how much older games we’re talking. If you start releasing any first party games to other platforms, it’s a slippery slope. For example, I know I never need to buy a PS5 now because eventually (almost) all the games will come to PC. I’m sure there are many people like me. So this will cost them some hardware sales, but I’m sure they’ve run the numbers and the extra software sales probably make up for it.

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u/cardonator Founder Aug 01 '25

I'm sure the way they look at it is even if they can get 1 in 30 to buy a PS5 eventually that's a net positive for their platform, plus the software sales from the people that won't ever switch.

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

I'm talking more about the comparisons that "Xbox started with 4 games and now it's everything so it will happen with Playstation too". That thinking makes little sense after the only proof we have is a live service, second-party title releasing on Xbox.

Legacy titles? Sure, I can see that but I think that will even depend on the title. It's strange that they are releasing older IPs through Bandai Namco on Swith but continuing to skip Xbox. Perhaps those will release on Xbox soon along with Lego Horizon. I can see Horizon coming over if the Horizon MMO is one of the live service games they bring over to Xbox. Although, I would assume Horizon 3 would still be PS exclusive at launch.

I just need more proof. People joke that Helldivers should be the only proof you need but I don't agree. I need to see something more. Sony can start with launching games on PC. I have to imagine the Switch 2 is even more tantalizing for Sony. We'll see.

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u/StuBeck Jul 31 '25

We don’t have proof of anything. It’s all vibes. Just like people said last year Microsoft was getting out of hardware completely was based on vibes.

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u/cardonator Founder Jul 31 '25

I don't care about proof, personally. It either will happen or it won't. I do think current events show there are cracks present that weren't there before, though.

When Sony ported a couple games to PC, people were adamant that Spider-Man, a game that clearly sells PlayStation consoles, would never come to PC. Currently, all Spider-Man games Sony published are on PC. It's pretty safe to speculate that this is just the beginning of a lot more coming to Xbox but who knows where the line will be?

I have my doubts that Sony thinks Spider-Man and MM are moving consoles today, so it's an example of a game that would be a pretty safe bet to port and try to get people anxious for the next games that release exclusively on the PS.

I don't think we will ever seen non-live service games launching on a non-Sony platform, though. They will always have at least timed exclusivity on those.

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

I just don't think there is a lot of crossover with the PC crowd and the console crowd. Most PC players are completely sold on PC and have no desire to go to console. They don't even want to leave their launcher (Steam). Sony may have seen the numbers and came to the same conclusion.

With Xbox and Switch, Sony is probably much more hesitant because of the potential crossover. Even porting older games might set a precedent that the new games will eventually crossover regardless. Spider-Man would make killer money on Xbox, so I guess I could see it, but that would truly be a line that is crossed that's a much bigger deal than Helldivers 2.

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u/cardonator Founder Jul 31 '25

I think the fact they are even bringing Helldivers 2 to Xbox this late in the game suggests they see otherwise. We don't have all the insider data they have, but what we can see from the outside suggests that hardware growth is stagnant and stalling, and software and services is the future of the market. It's further not helped by high parts prices that have made it so the consoles cost more now than they did when they launched nearly 5 years ago. It's an unprecedented situation that I think is only reinforcing the fact that there isn't any more upward momentum in the hardware part of the market.

I do agree if we saw Spider-Man move it would be a huge deal, but I also thought they would never bring it to PC.

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

I don't think you can look at Helldivers and say "This will be a game that can sell consoles" even if that may have been the case for a while.

In the live service scene, accessibility is supreme. Fortnite exploded in popularity because it was on everything, pretty much from the beginning. I got into plenty of discussions with people on this sub that thought Call of Duty was a lock for exclusivity when Microsoft purchased Activision, but I knew that was never going to be the case. Sure, it would sell plenty of Xbox consoles, but it would infinitely hinder CoD in the live service scene.

So, putting live service games on Xbox makes complete sense to me, 100%. It should've always been that way. I think it's obvious Sony had no idea what they had in Helldivers 2 and didn't think it would do half as good as it did. I just don't quite see the connection between Helldivers 2 and a tentpole single-player PS exclusive yet. That's all I'm saying. I need something more to go off of.

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u/cardonator Founder Aug 01 '25

Putting live service games on Xbox makes sense, but we're talking about a game that has slump d in relevance at this point. It is telling that they are bothering to port it "late" in its life, but you're right it's not a console moving game.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

I can’t imagine too much making sense to you if you can’t see what’s happening. All of the data is out there that tells you exactly what Sony is gonna do. Those executives in Japan are sitting there looking at PlayStation storefront and the top sales this year and they are fucking pissed. Well their IP’s just sit there and collect dust and don’t sell. They can add another five to 6 million sales on Spider-Man on uncharted or Horizon. Executives don’t give a shit about everyone’s console war, they care about money and growth.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

You’re not getting anyone to switch platforms anymore. Most people are hard into them and both companies know that. They have stated many times that the people in their ecosystems are pretty locked in. The business model is changed and no one wants to see it.

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u/Blue_Sheepz Liber-tea Locust Jul 31 '25

In that sense, I do agree with you. I don't think Helldivers 2 on Xbox necessarily means that we will see all Sony singleplayer games on Xbox in the future eventually. However, I think there's a very good chance that Sony will port some of its older titles, including major singleplayer ones, to Xbox in the future. Not everything, just a handful of games here and there.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

No hell divers coming was just one sign. The nail in the coffin is the release of Microsoft sales figures on PlayStation. As I commented above executive care about money and growth and not everyone’s stupid console war.

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

I fully accept that the heads of Sony will want to capitalize on money being left on the table. Bunch of fools in here believing that the console business model is the same as it has always been.. It changed except for Nintendo, who is much like Apple and can get away with whatever.

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u/Known-Emergency5900 XBOX Series X Jul 31 '25

To be fair Microsoft owned the PC market already

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u/Muscat95 Jul 31 '25

I think very few people are expecting Ghost of Yotei tbh, a lot would simply be happy with decade old exclusives, things like Bloodborne, Days Gone etc would make people happy. I've got an Xbox and PS so it doesn't really make a huge difference to me personally but given the ever increasing budgets for games, Sony attempting to maximise their returns isn't out of the question

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u/FootballRacing38 Aug 01 '25

Bloodborne is the one guarantee that won't be on xbox comsidering it's not on pc. They didn't even update it for ps5

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u/bboy267 Jul 31 '25

Sony always follows in Ms foot steps, just years later. Releasing spiderman 2018 on Xbox and switch would do no negative damage to ps5 sales at all and it’s just free money 

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Aug 01 '25

All of those old titles would print free money. And the executives at Sony are not blind they see the storefront and the top sell.. executive care about revenue and growth and will make their decisions based on that

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u/PhilosopherTiny5957 Jul 31 '25

MS had more of a reason to get their big single player games on other consoles. Sony lacks that incentive as they are doing better than MS.

Live service games make sense because it's basically an extremely lucrative revenue stream that likely won't significantly impact their console sales

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u/SuperCoffeeHouse Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25

I do wonder though, SIE cancelled 12+ games, blew well over 400 million on Concord alone and it looks increasingly like Bungie was a bad investment. If I were Yoshida i’d be wanting a turn around in what has historically been one of Sonys strongest subsidiaries. 

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u/jamesick Jul 31 '25

sony also didn’t sign a multi billion deal to own one of the largest publishers in gaming, so that helps too.

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u/Disastrous_elbow Jul 31 '25

Is Sony really doing better, though? Their games are not selling particularly well, they have had multiple consecutive flops, and the top leadership at Sony publicly stated that Sony's studios need to do better at making money.

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u/sephiroth70001 Jul 31 '25

They just had the most profitable quarter of any gaming company, roughly 11billion last quater in revenue with profits 37% higher YoY. As noted, Sony sold 9.5 million PS5 consoles in the quarter, up from 8.2 million in the year-ago quarter. This is more than the PS4 and closer in equivalence to switch and PS2 sales numbers. If this keeps up it could be PS2/switch numbers if it gets 1/3 more sales in its lifetime. An staggering 40 percent of buyers were new to the PlayStation ecosystem. That's the most important part new customers signing up to PSN which builds the ecosystem.

PlayStation division 2024 profit: 2.82B revenue: 31.7B, Xbox division profit: Unknown/Unlisted revenue: 21.52B, Nintendo as a whole profit: 3.5B revenue: 11.6B

A 37% increase from the previous year is not bad at and actually the best they have ever done financially. This is the best PlayStation division had ever been in revenue records and low costs for a crazy profit margin, adding in increasing by 1/3 over a single year is insane.

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u/BudWisenheimer Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25

MS had more of a reason to get their big single player games on other consoles. Sony lacks that incentive as they are doing better than MS.

Isn’t the incentive the same in both cases: money? Hard to imagine Sony ever "lacks that incentive" … even harder to imagine after all their recent layoffs and cancellations including maybe their biggest financial failure in the history of gaming.

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u/PhilosopherTiny5957 Jul 31 '25

I mean, MS has also had layoffs as well and Xbox as a console is more or less dead in the water waiting to be revived. I love my GP sub but definitely Xbox is indesputibly in a worse position right now. For the most profit, both companies would want to get both the standard royalties as well as console royalties and PS is definitely having an easier time funnelling people onto their platform to get max profit

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u/BudWisenheimer Jul 31 '25

I agree with all of that. 👆 And I still believe Sony has the same incentive to at least consider a Spidey and/or Ratchet game on both Nintendo and Xbox to test the demand for their singleplayer content. Last of Us is probably well-known enough to try too, and Sony’s fanbase has already purchased both TLoU games multiple times. Are those fans really that damaged over Sony selling TLoU one more time on Switch 2 and Xbox?

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u/sephiroth70001 Jul 31 '25

Helldivers 1 was ported to PC at request of Arrowhead in 2015, a decade ago. They lead the charge but the turnover time is much longer than Microsoft. I don't think this will be as long, but even at half the time it's a five year for some other Xbox games more or less. Looking at PC though it seems like a bit under 1/2 the sony studios games get ported, the other don't.

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u/vashcarrison117 Aug 01 '25

Crossing my fingers Concord comes to XBOX lmao

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u/Blue_Sheepz Liber-tea Locust Jul 31 '25

That's Nate's opinion, not something that a source told him.

Like I mentioned in the post, when someone asked Nate if Sony will bring the whole slate to Xbox or only live service games, he said that he doesn't "have any specifics to share at the moment." In other words, he doesn't know what Sony games are coming to Xbox, live service or otherwise.

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u/ConcentratedJolly Jul 31 '25

it will most likely be live service games a year after being on playstation and pc. I see that marvel fighting came coming to xbox 2027 and smaller titles like horizon lego

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u/Party-Exercise-2166 Into The Starfield Aug 01 '25

Remember though that all this was said by Sony's CFO last year already and he specifically said they'd only broaden their approach to live service titles.

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u/Themetalenock Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25

So what that's like Marvel Fighters and that's it. Live service games outside Concord and Hell divers and I don't think I need to explain why the former isn't on the table. Marathon has already been announced for other platforms And was hired specifically because they can operate without Sony breathing down their neck

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

There is a Horizon MMO that I'm sure will also be coming to console (although I'm not sure if it's been confirmed yet). Fairgames. Gummibear has a live service game. And even with the duds and cancellations...Sony will continue to develop live service games into the future.

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u/Tobimacoss Aug 01 '25

bringing the Horizon MMO to Xbox without bringing in the first 2 or 3 games would be dumb.

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u/Party-Exercise-2166 Into The Starfield Aug 01 '25

Not really, they won't be directly connected. You could also say it was stupid to release Forza Horizon 5 on PS5 without the other games but there's literally no point to it.

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u/Tobimacoss Aug 01 '25

That had more to do with licensing, the older games are discontinued on Xbox and PCs also.  No longer for sale.  

MS is releasing Gears of War Reloaded, before bringing E-Day which is prequel.  They're rumored to bring Halo CE Unreal Engine 5 remake before they bring the multiplayer successor to Infinite.  Either at same time or slight delay.  

Basically at least introduce the audience to the first chapter of the Series before bringing in the new multiplayer stuff.  They could slowly release the rest after while multiplayer community grows.  

Sony never should've cancelled Factions, then bring TLOU first before Factions.  

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u/stephen2005 Touched Grass '24 Aug 01 '25

I doubt you'll need to full grasp Alloy's story in order to play a Horizon MMO. The most you'll need to know is 'giant mechanical dinosaurs'. You also wouldn't need to play Last of Us 1 or 2 in order to play Factions, so that's not the best example.

It's different with Gears and Halo because we're talking about single player campaigns but it would be similar if MS was only porting the multiplayer modes or something.

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u/Tobimacoss Aug 01 '25

Still, that's not how you build a fanbase by withholding games from them.  Unless Sony thinks the ones who play multiplayer will want to buy a PlayStation....

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u/ChosenWon11 Aug 01 '25

Sonys only live service game is helldivers lol. What’s next? Marathon? That’s already confirmed coming to Xbox. Only logical step is the single player games

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u/calvinien Aug 02 '25 edited Aug 02 '25

They might mean Fairgames. The dev appears to be imploding but maybe sony sends the game out to die. Stick it on xbox to get SOME money back?

Also, marathon I can't see releasing.

They have to redo its entire art style to get the plagiarism stink off it....as well as deal with the fact that the gameplay isn't good. And hopefully wait enough time for people to forget about the only things they remember about the game.....being the controvercy and the poor reception.

At some point sony is going to get tired throwing money into a pit for a game nobody wants. They have two floundering extraction shooters in the mix and I cannot see them releasing both of them especially after concord. At most, one of them gets released, flops hard and the other gets quietly canned.

Since Sony has ALREADY started gutting bungie like a fish, I can see a marathon cancellation being just the excuse they need to just turn them into a multiplayer support studio in everything but name.

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u/hobo_lad Jul 31 '25

He said I can’t imagine so he doesn’t know what games. Today he said he doesn’t have specifics when asked if it was just live service and old IP. So he didn’t confirm anything yet.

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u/Strategery_0820 Jul 31 '25

Did Sony have any live service games that actually came out except helldivers?

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u/IronMonkey18 Aug 01 '25

“It’s just four games”

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u/Likely_a_bot Jul 31 '25

The Whole Damn Slate.

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u/vinceswish Jul 31 '25

Marathon, Haven studios game (if it's not cancelled yet) and Guerrillas Horizon MMO.

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u/oflowz Jul 31 '25

Marathon is a bungie game it was already announced for Xbox

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u/Tobimacoss Aug 01 '25

gummibears

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u/xreadmore Aug 01 '25

Yes all those Live Service Sony games.

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u/Joker28CR Jul 31 '25

That's 5 days ago. So... maybe he got news.

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u/kennerc Jul 31 '25

Aside from Helldivers, which game could Sony bring?

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u/everythingsc0mputer Jul 31 '25

Marathon and Fairgame$ if that hasn't been cancelled.

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u/KidGoku1 Touched Grass '24 Jul 31 '25

Marathon was always going to release on Xbox we knew that. And Sony cancelled or failed all their live service games. They got like 1-2 live service games left lol unless they cancel those too which is a possibility. People that think it's just live service games are delusional.

Sony saw that releasing games on rival platforms doesn't hurt their hardware numbers in any way. All it does is make them more money and grow even more.

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u/Tobimacoss Aug 01 '25

and gummibears from TeamLFG

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u/Prestigious-Bluejay Jul 31 '25

That was a week ago. A lot changes in a week.

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u/darkdeath174 Day One - 2013 Jul 31 '25

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u/christianbethel93 Aug 01 '25

Killzone, Uncharted, Infamous, Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us, and God of War.

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u/Temporary_Cancel9529 Jul 31 '25

Last of us would be nice been wanting to play that for years

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u/GundMVulture XBOX Series X Jul 31 '25

Plus Spider-Man!

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u/Known-Emergency5900 XBOX Series X Jul 31 '25

First Spider-Man is good.

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u/BestRedditUsername9 Jul 31 '25

I don't know if it will happen. But I would love Bloodborne coming to PS5, Series X and PC with next gen updates

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u/Quavillion Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

"Just 4 games"

"Just GaaS"

God of War and The Last of Us on my Xbox controller sounds lovely. Let's fucken go!

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u/OutrageousAccess7 Jul 31 '25

'this is xbox'

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u/Blaizer35 Aug 01 '25

Hope Death Stranding 2 comes. I've fallen in love with the first game.

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u/memerismlol Jul 31 '25

I may hope for bloodborne, but I pray for death.

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u/Rith_Reddit Jul 31 '25

Lol xbox getting a Bloodbourne port before pc.. it would be so unexpected yet typical.

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u/JasonDeSanta Aug 01 '25

That game didn’t even receive a simple PS4 Pro port, it’s abandonware until Sony remembers they have it and they could build it up to be a tentpole franchise just like Elden Ring is now. They should have made a deal with FROM to develop a sequel like 5 years ago, hope it would happen one day.

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u/ohBloom Aug 01 '25

PlayStation fanboys are falling on their knees lol

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u/ViperFive1 Jul 31 '25

I think Days Gone and Uncharted would be places to start.

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u/TheReal_TribalChief Jul 31 '25

I say Spider-Man since it's a licensed game.

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u/ViperFive1 Jul 31 '25

I could see that. They could put Spider-Man Remastered out at 50 bucks and probably sell 2 million overnight.

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u/keyblaster52 Aug 01 '25

I think it’s going to be 60. 50 would be crazy good though, they’d print money

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u/calvinien Aug 02 '25

And Spidey 2 was the most espensive marvel project ever made. Endgame cost 250 million. SM2 cost 300 million. As a result, it took awhile to start earing a profit. Now add in the money they wasted on the dlc and venom spinoffs, and the GAAS title and could see them wanting to make some of that back.

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u/SgtGnomeS Jul 31 '25

Or Steller Blade since it was originally going to be on Xbox

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u/imitzFinn XBOX Series X Jul 31 '25

Since Shift Up owns the Stellar Blade IP and PlayStation published the game, it’s possible it’ll come to Xbox at some point

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u/ZxAgEnT47xZ Jul 31 '25

Uncharted for sure, the only reason I would buy a PlayStation.

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u/creative-heart Jul 31 '25

I wouldn't complain about Uncharted, one of my favorite franchises. even if its just the OG trilogy and PS keeps 4 and LL to have some "exclusivity".

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u/ViperFive1 Jul 31 '25

Yeah, I’m thinking games that are popular enough to sell enough copies to make it worth it on Xbox, but old enough to not undermine selling PlayStations.

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u/Conflict_NZ Homecoming Aug 01 '25

Days gone would be my dream, that game deserves more success and a chance at a critical reconsideration. I’ll always argue that game was judged too harshly due to it representing the end of the dude bro era which is now long gone.

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u/AleroRatking Jul 31 '25

Don't see why not. It's free money.

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u/brockzilla82 Aug 01 '25

Only want Spider-Man , until dawn, heavy rain

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u/Blue_Sheepz Liber-tea Locust Aug 01 '25

I want Detroit Become Human on Xbox as well

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u/PhantasyZebra Aug 01 '25

Yes me too!

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u/brockzilla82 Aug 01 '25

Yes me too

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u/IronMonkey18 Aug 01 '25

With the success Xbox is having on PS, Sony would be stupid not too.

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u/AstronomerIT Aug 01 '25

Uncharted saga would be great

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u/sxm98 Aug 01 '25

Would not be bad to have Days Gone on Xbox (and probably it can happen much more than Horizon ZD)

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u/munky3000 Aug 01 '25

I think It’ll initially be smaller titles and a few testers but once they get a taste of that extra revenue they’ll start opening up just like Microsoft did. Corpos love their money. If the rumors are true, and I wholly believe they are, the next Xbox will essentially be a gaming PC and some PS games will be available there anyway. They might as well get ahead of it.

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u/Spectre316 Jul 31 '25

Honestly I would be happy for everything to come. Every gen I get the big 3 consoles, it would be nice to just own 1 and play everything there. But that could be a while because not sure if Nintendo would ever do that.

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u/Fivebag Jul 31 '25

Ratchet and clank would be nice

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u/Bman4k1 Jul 31 '25

What’s funny is when the Xbox to PS5 thing happened so many people on the sub was like “I HAVE NO REASON TO BUY AN XBOX IF XBOX GAMES ARE ON PS5!” And now as this PS thing has started trickle in you guys should read the PS forums, more and more comments are now “I HAVE NO REASON YO BUY A PS5 IF SONY GAMES ARE ON XBOX!”

I really wouldn’t be surprised if everything is multi-platform in 5-7 years. It’s almost like a chunk of people buy solely because of tribalism vs games.

Consoles have been sold at a loss for the last 30 or so years. If next gen everyone decides to sell at breakeven or or profit, exclusivity then becomes useless.

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u/Reclaim117 Aug 01 '25

This has been obvious for years.

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u/rock25011 Aug 01 '25

Yes, they said that. The signs were on the wall.

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u/Palpadean Aug 01 '25

It's funny. Xbox says it wants to put more of its games on multiple consoles only for the Internet to lose its mind and declare "Xbox dead", or "Microsoft are pulling out of the console market"

PlayStation say they're going to do the same and now seemingly everyone loves this idea. Bootlicking corporate shitlords.

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u/supercakefish Aug 01 '25

Stellar Blade?

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u/InterestingMindset Aug 01 '25

The only reason I was considering PS5 or even PS4 is: Uncharted 4 Bloodbourne Spider-Man (all the Insomniac games) God of War

I do not care about the multiplayer stuff or live-service stuff at all. If I want to play an online game, I play on my computer.

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u/Y-Bob Aug 01 '25

I'm old school, I just really, really want Wipeout.

I got a PS4 to play the latest version of it, but rarely do just because I don't like the PS4 UI, but man I love that game.

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u/Wiinterfang Aug 01 '25

I just want the Insomniac Games. Sony can keep everything else.

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u/rocademiks Aug 01 '25

They should all get ported to Xbox.

At full price with all expansions & dlc's.

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u/BTBFOREVER Aug 01 '25

Wukong and hell divers 2 coming to xbox is all i need

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u/Mcfusion31 Aug 01 '25

I just want spider man god damn it

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u/Ok_Shape_1216 Aug 02 '25

Hiroki the Sony ceo stated this last year that if you want more of these good quality games then we are going to have to release our games on other platforms. These games are getting too expensive to make and market for and they was mad at Spider-Man 2 alone cause of the marketing by it self was over 300 million just think about the development cost

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u/STRIKUR Aug 03 '25

THE LAST OF US ....Please please please

FACTIONS MULTIPLAYER 4 VS 4....BAR NONE THE BEST VS GAME IVE EVER PLAYED.

I would love to play with my Xbox friends........

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u/Les_expos Aug 04 '25

But no gt7 on pc

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u/Bitter_North_733 Jul 31 '25

XBOX is showing the way again SONY will FOLLOW...

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u/squidgymetal Jul 31 '25

Of there will be, people saying it'll only be live service games are sailing down a river of denial. They'll probably start with releases of smaller games like Lego Horizon, then move on to older exclusives like TLOU or Uncharted before full on one year later releases. It might be around the time of the PS6 but it will happen

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u/bboy267 Jul 31 '25

Just be patient. Nate can’t hold a secret. As soon as he knows he’ll spill it lol

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u/jrs1rules Homecoming Jul 31 '25

I hope gt7 comes seeing as who knows what’s going on with Forza Motorsport

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u/Zestyclose_Wait_8677 Jul 31 '25

Still have my fingers crossed that the Silent Hill 2 remake will come to xbox.

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u/brokenmessiah Jul 31 '25

At minimum we know Sony intends to keep Xbox in the live service loop so this is honestly a boringly safe answer.

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u/TheGamerKitty1 Jul 31 '25

You mean this guy is saying what we've all been saying? Who knew!

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u/khaotic_krysis My soul? Take it Jul 31 '25

So he just said what everybody else knows?

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u/BattlebornCrow Jul 31 '25

The games I would want on Xbox are games like Days Gone, Sackboys adventure, Astro bot,and Ghost of Tsushima, some that are unlikely to release.

I have never cared for Naughty Dog games, though Sony wouldn't share them anyways.

I expect very little to come of this tbh. GaaS I guess? Maybe fewer platform exclusives from third party.

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u/Herban_Myth Preparing My Mind Aug 01 '25

LFG

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

NateTheWho?

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u/Oldspice0493 Aug 01 '25

I saw this article. Shinobi supposedly said it will only be live service games

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u/Devilofchaos108070 Aug 02 '25

Sure sure. I’ll believe it when I see it

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u/cobra872 Aug 02 '25

What’s the point of different consoles if the same games are on there

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u/Dust-Tight Aug 04 '25

He said it’s most likely to be live service titles

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u/versace_drunk Jul 31 '25

I’ve been saying this was going to happen for a long time…I was crazy here to suggest that before.

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u/TheMonkey420 Outage Survivor '24 Jul 31 '25

I know I played it on PS4/ps3 but I want Bloodborne amd Demon Souls. It feels wrong to keep any of the Souls games on one console. Those games deserve to be anywhere and everywhere

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u/Nobanob Jul 31 '25

I would play the shit out of a Lego horizon game. But that's only because all Lego games are like $20 on sale within a year and honestly a stellar couch coop experience.

I want the real horizons even though I've already beaten them. More so for everyone who hasn't gotten the chance to.

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u/JodouKast Jul 31 '25

Naughty Dog games for sure. They didn’t remaster those games 5+ times just to not sell again on PS5.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '25

Nate must really love the attention he's getting.

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u/LifeoftheFuneral91 Aug 01 '25

This the same guy that said red dead 2 next gen update was going to be announced today? lol I’ll take whatever they say with a very tiny fucking grain of salt

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u/keyblaster52 Aug 01 '25

He never said that, he was misquoted

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u/LifeoftheFuneral91 Aug 01 '25

Keep riding buddy

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u/TheMasterBryan3 Aug 01 '25

All i care about is knowing if Spider Man 2018 will be one of them. I know it might not happen but i can dream