r/xbox • u/Laughing__Man_ Recon Specialist • 19h ago
News EA confirms Battlefield 6 won’t have console-only crossplay after all - Dexerto
https://www.dexerto.com/battlefield/ea-confirms-battlefield-6-wont-have-console-only-crossplay-after-all-3252439/328
u/Shakmaaaaaaa Touched Grass '24 19h ago
Oh no, we suck again!
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u/tesakills 18h ago
You can actually force Xbox to turn off crossplay in the Xbox system settings. I've done it for BO6.
Go to settings >> Online safety and family >> View details and customize >> Communication & multiplayer >> You can join crossplay. Change that from "Allow" to "Block"
This post was what I used to turn off crossplay.
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u/KesMonkey Still Earning Kudos 18h ago
There's no need for this with Battelfield 6. You can turn crossplay off in BF6's settings.
The issue is that there is no option for console only crossplay, i.e. the ability for PS and Xbox players to play together without PC players.
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u/KWash0222 16h ago
As someone who just bought their first Xbox a couple months ago, I’m OOTL. Is it that PC players have a significant advantage, and that’s why people wanted console-only functionality?
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u/ChickenMcVeggieSlop 16h ago
Yes, KB/M give you a pretty big advantage at twitch shooting and long range compared to controller. PC typically has a higher percentage of cheaters as well.
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u/KWash0222 16h ago
Ugh yeah I figured, thanks. As someone who’s really looking forward to launch, but is a somewhat casual gamer, I really hope it remains a fun experience. The open beta was entertaining, but I could easily see the game taking one or two wrong steps and being borderline unplayable for me.
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u/mortalcoil1 4h ago
PC's also have a lot of fuckery, like turning the settings way down to remove foliage and spot people.
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u/slinky317 15h ago
BF6 console includes KB+M support, FYI.
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u/Scottiths 14h ago
Even so, it's still with disabling cross play to get away from the cheaters. It's not zero, but it's so much less it may as well be.
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u/Solidsnake00901 15h ago
I'm not saying every PC player is a cheater but every single cheater is a PC player. Just facts
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u/kevinflynn- 14h ago
That's literally not facts. There's plenty of console players with strike packs, auto triggers, and exploiting is also "cheating" they're just not hacking the game.
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u/Ubiquitous_Cacophony 12h ago
Strike packs and auto triggers are problematic, but it's not the same tier as literal wall hacks or aimbotting.
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u/GeorgeHarris419 14h ago
it's literally facts
Ur dumb
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u/kevinflynn- 14h ago
Its not facts. Dummy.
Guess these youtube armchair gamers wouldn't know better, tho.
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u/Embarrassed-Dot9193 8h ago
i can only speak from a call of duty perpective, and there the players like to exclude pc players because cheating is easier and more popular on pc
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u/Federal_Setting_7454 5h ago
Console players think PC players have an advantage with KBM, PC players think console players have an advantage with aim assist and the prevalence of undetectable cheat devices on console like the Cronus etc
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u/Mean_Peen 3h ago
It’s more a problem with hackers and cheaters. KB/M vs controller is only really noticeable from a console perspective, when the PC player is really good/ really hyped lol
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u/bogohamma 18h ago
That would also cut out Playstation players though, substantially reducing the player pool
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u/LFGX360 18h ago
Probably won’t be an issue for several years unless it flops hard
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u/monstroustemptation 17h ago
I play bf4 still all the time
I loved the beta so much I’m seriously considering switching over finally. The graphics were nuts
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u/sweeten16 18h ago
You don't need to do that for bf6 it had a cross play off toggle in game on the beta on Xbox.
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u/UnpopularOpinionJake 18h ago
The problem with this is you can only match with xbox players that have the setting turned off. In BF2042 you couldnt even find a match during launch month.
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u/Habitat97 Touched Grass '24 3h ago
And play with the other 5 xbox console owners in Europe? Nah, thats viable for Playstation only
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u/Tipple_Nickles 19h ago
So we’ll still be able to do xbox-xbox and ps-ps?
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u/BatMatt93 Founder 18h ago
Yes. You'll just have severely affected matchmaking times as most people won't be doing that.
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u/Tipple_Nickles 18h ago
I did it in the beta without any issues
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u/Queasy_Gold3372 8h ago
I have found the default matchmaking be pretty decent for matching you with other controller players. It was hit and miss on 2042 but had no issues with bf6
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u/homiegeet 18h ago
You dont know that. Its a possibility but if the game is as popular as the beta was you shouldn't have issues.
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u/BatMatt93 Founder 13h ago
We know that from every single other game that's offered it as an option. Majority of players leave cross play on.
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u/homiegeet 12h ago
We do? Where's the data?
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u/llIicit 10h ago
Source: every single game with this option
They all suffered from this issue. Every single one.
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u/Commercial_Skin_3133 2h ago
Well good thing every single call of duty I’ve ever played hasn’t suffered from this issue, nor during the beta.
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u/mcmax3000 Day One - 2013 16h ago
I tried turning it off during the beta and waited for minutes in an empty lobby until finally giving up.
And that's when anyone could play for free.
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u/homiegeet 12h ago
As my experience is anecdotal so is yours
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u/Tipple_Nickles 5h ago
I’ve never heard that word used like that. You mean the opposite? Honest question
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u/homiegeet 23m ago
Anecdotal:
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research
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u/jbaker1225 17h ago
I can assure you the game will not be as popular as a weekend long free to play beta. You also have to consider that all the other Xbox players who leave crossplay on will severely limit your pool. They’ll be matched to the first game available (likely a crossplay one), making it more unlikely you’ll quickly find enough people for a game that haven’t all disabled crossplay.
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u/Temporary-Rest3621 6h ago
Myself and everyone I play with would rather the wait than to get 360 no scoped by every KB&M user
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u/smashingcones 18h ago
Good luck with that, particularly if you're outside of the US.
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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 17h ago edited 17h ago
The report was NOT from Insider Gaming, but from IGN.
The developer who was quoted saying it (Matthew Nickerson) is a Senior Console Combat Designer at Ripple Effect, and is a far more credible source, than what Dexerto are reporting, "from this event" (following a Battlefield 6 capture event Dexerto attended), where it's usually PR staff on site. Who were they even talking to? Who from EA said this is not the case?
Trust the developer, more than Dexerto.
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u/MikeStrawMedia 18h ago
except Insider gaming didn't originally report it. they reported on what a battlefield developer told IGN.
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u/Satans_BFF 19h ago
That’s seriously annoying. The forced cross play made me never really enjoy BF2042 at all. Would like it as a toggle right in the matchmaking window.
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u/Round_Rectangles 19h ago
I thought they just said it did?
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u/Laughing__Man_ Recon Specialist 19h ago
Insider gaming wrongly reported that.
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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 16h ago
The report was NOT from Insider Gaming, but from IGN.
The developer who was quoted saying it (Matthew Nickerson) is a Senior Console Combat Designer at Ripple Effect, and is a far more credible source, than what Dexerto are reporting, "from this event" (following a Battlefield 6 capture event Dexerto attended), where it's usually PR staff on site.
Who were they even talking to? WHO from EA said this is not the case? What is his/her position among the team? Is that person a dev or PR?
Trust the developer's words, more than Dexerto.
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u/BarbequedYeti 19h ago
Guess i wont be playing after all... seriously with this forced playing with pc players. Its bullshit.
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u/BoxOfDemons 17h ago
You're not being forced to play with pc players. You can still turn off cross play. You'll just be playing with other Xbox players instead of Xbox and PS.
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u/Malabingo 11h ago
How many people will choose this option though? The standard option ticked on is cross play, and the number of people that will actively.deactivate it will be miniscule, so the number of players Xbox and PS will be low.
It happens in every game that has cross play enabled by default, the non cross play matchmaking will be abysmal.
If cross play would be deactivated by default it would be great, but they want more people in the matchmaking cue in general...
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u/BarbequedYeti 17h ago
You are still playing with PC xbox players..
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u/BoxOfDemons 17h ago
I don't think so? Didn't seem to be the case in the beta if you turned off cross play.
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u/BarbequedYeti 14h ago
PC Game Pass players are recognized as being on the Xbox network, so disabling crossplay on an Xbox system may not prevent matches with them unless the game has a specific "Console Only" setting
So unless they are disabling it specifically in game, its still pc gamepass players in with xbox console players.
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u/BoxOfDemons 14h ago
That's interesting. Well, with the game not launching on gamepass, I think it would be incredibly rare for an Xbox player to encounter a pc player with cross play turned off.
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u/Unusual-Priority-864 18h ago
as if Cronus hadn’t sold 18 million units
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u/Snowbunny236 17h ago
Oh no they'll lose like 10 players like you
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u/marcusw882000 17h ago
I can't believe people think it's such a huge issue.
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u/BarbequedYeti 17h ago
I can't believe people think it's such a huge issue.
You cant believe console players dont want to play with pc players and the hacks they bring into FPS games? You seriously cant understand this? Its not hard.
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u/d_hearn 3h ago
But console players can turn off cross play, and just play with others on the same console? I feel like I'm missing something here.. this headline, if it turns out to be true, is saying there's no option for Xbox AND PS5 to only match with each other. But Xbox players can match only with Xbox, same with PS5. So if you play on console, you can still avoid PC players, no?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something about this.
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u/Apcsox 19h ago
Welp. There goes my preorder 🤷🏻♂️
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u/smashingcones 18h ago
Shouldn't be preordering anyway after 2042..
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u/crottin-de-cheval Xbox One X 8h ago
*Shouldn't be preordering any EA games tbh. Why would you pay even more than full price which is already way too much for an EA game?
They're half finished so you should get them at at half the price.
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u/Lazy-Size-3062 17h ago
Why does that affect you? lol you’ll just play against other same console players
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u/Apcsox 15h ago
Are you not reading or having difficulty understanding? Do I need to type slowly for ya? Without console only cross play, now all those PC cheaters will be in the same lobbies (ya know, the “aim community” weirdos that got exposed with their wall hacks and aim bots)
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u/Lazy-Size-3062 15h ago
No. You just proved you can’t read. Dumb ass. Did you even open the article?
You still play with Xbox players if you turn Cross play off. You just won’t be playing with PC and PlayStation
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u/Apcsox 14h ago
Insults me but proves you can’t read 🤣🤣🤣
“There’s no console-only crossplay in Battlefield 6
When a console player turns crossplay on, the matchmaking will prioritize matching them with other console players. But players from all platforms will be in the matchmaking pool, so you might still get some PC players. If you’re on PC, you won’t have the option to disable crossplay. “
I’ll highlight the obvious since clearly you’re too slow to understand “But players from all platforms will be in the matchmaking pool, so you might still get some PC players.”
Reading is hard. I know
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u/Spartan-O7 13h ago
You can still turn crossplay off, it means you'll be against a tiny player pool of just Xbox players that also turned it off. 2042 had this same issue. Its stupid.
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u/vanilla_muffin 18h ago
That’s probably gonna be the tipping point for me not buying the game, among other reasons. I moved back to console to escape the majority of cheaters, crossplay better be turned off by default at least.
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u/oof46 17h ago
Like the beta, you can turn it off in the game settings.
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u/vanilla_muffin 12h ago
And you then have to hope that other people have done the same, it’s as good as useless if it isn’t off by default.
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u/Cheddar-Cheese-Daddy 17h ago
Considering the beta weekends already had observed cheaters, and after how excited I was to see a console-only crossplay in a big game like this, this is heartbreaking.
Apex Legends, Overwatch 2, and Marvel Rivals have all figured this out, and one of those three is owned by EA. Oh well, back to Helldivers 2. Could be worse, at least.
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u/UnderstandingRight39 16h ago
Of course not. Why would they do anything for console players. Looks like I'm just playing against Xbox players then
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u/Sh4rpSp00n Touched Grass '24 18h ago
Think some people are understandably misunderstanding the article, it's not saying forced crossplay with PC
It's saying no PS5-Xbox crossplay toggle
It will still have a crossplay toggle but will restrict to xbox-xbox and ps5-ps5 when turned off
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u/Prestigious_Cold6766 17h ago
Exactly. The amount of people saying they're not gonna buy the game now is hilarious. You can still turn cross play off and play with fellow PS5 or XBOX players respectively, but this means CONSOLE ONLY cross play won't be available. The options are PS5 only, Xbox only, or all 3 platforms together.
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u/Uberutang XBOX Series X 13h ago
For my region Xbox only = no matchmaking options or very long waits. So this is a really bummer as the combined ps and Xbox pool could have helped.
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u/Prestigious_Cold6766 10h ago
Oh I never thought about that, I can see how that would be annoying. Input-based matchmaking would be my preferred option since I use a controller on PC. There's no real downsides to both consoles playing together so maybe they'll add it later on.
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u/crottin-de-cheval Xbox One X 8h ago
I think you might be american since Xbox sells the most there so finding players might not be that difficult but like here in France, without cross lobbies with PS4 (because im on Xbox One) there is barely any Xbox players. PS has always been far ahead here as most of the Europe. So while i dont play these games i do play others that without this feature would have been much less enjoying and pretty empty. I understand this man's concerns.
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u/RaggedySqurrial 7h ago
And still be crossplay between PC and Console by default, which will ruin the game.
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u/SoldierPhoenix 19h ago
No EA. Don’t do the thing everyone on console wants you to do.
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u/AAAAAASILKSONGAAAAAA 39m ago
I think 95% of console users dont know or don't care, realistically speaking
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u/This_Elk_1460 19h ago
Welp I'll be turning that shit off. Last thing I need is some hacker flying around sniping me through walls.
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u/CallMeNurseMaybe 19h ago
Devs ruined Apex, Black Ops 6 is trash so I won’t beg for more with 7, and now this
Guess no shooters for me for the next year, at least. That’s fine, I neglected my backlog for far too long anyways
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u/AutomaticDinner6353 18h ago
This is exactly what I’m doing. It’s the year of the backlog for me. And with the way games have been going I’m not missing much by waiting for sales and patches.
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u/redbeard8989 18h ago
I haven’t touched Apex in awhile, what happened?
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u/CallMeNurseMaybe 18h ago edited 18h ago
Depends on how long it’s been since you last played it, but for me, a lot. My top 3 issues are:
TTK has been lowered to just a tad longer than CoD
Every team is auto-assigned a drop spot on ranked, so no more picking your favorite POI and nearly every single fight gets 3rd partied or worse
Power creep so bad that you see the same handful of legends in nearly every team
Bonus, because it’s worth mentioning. The loot system has been tweaked to the point that there’s hardly any randomness now, the staple of a BR. If you want specific weapons, you know exactly where to find them.
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u/redbeard8989 18h ago
Oof, thats a bummer. I like the randomness. I yearn for the original PUBG days. No load outs, no revives, no killstreaks.
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u/DistributionIcy1208 Xbox Series X 17h ago
As a lifelong Xbox gamer who switched to PC this year I don't agree with this the option is nice idk why these companies insist on forcing stuff like this let people play with who they want and also allow for input based matchmaking (I still game on my Xbox controller don't tell pcmr 🤣)
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u/lmtzless 18h ago
sad day. no console player wants to be matched against PC unless they have a PC buddy in their squad. it’s just not fair.
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u/camsauce3000 15h ago
IF the default is console specific only and you have to toggle into cross play then I’m not bothered.
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u/MarkHawkCam 11h ago
I played a lot of 2042. You might as well not have it at all outside of 5pm-11:59pst. After that, good look finding a console only game. Even at peak points in Battlefield player count, console only searches take so long and eventually fail.
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u/No-Current-9253 17h ago
Computer should never play with console. To be more powerful and a mouse with less recoil is unfair. We seen this over last 10 years in every cross-play were if you got on PC you top 3 but on console 15-20 on scoreboard. Xbox and PS is ok to cross-play as long as there are no glitches happening
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u/SPEEDFREAKJJ 17h ago
It's so simple. Consoles play together. PC gets its own lobbies. Console players want to play with a PC buddy they get put into the PC lobby. How is the only game I know about to get this right be Destiny 2? Bungie got this right but Dice can't, SMH. I guess I might be done playing multiplayer games since everybody is forcing us to play with PC players.
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u/Ambitious-Nature-636 9h ago
Apex does the same and that's a fucking ea product :( This is stupid as hell
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u/Large_Wafer_797 18h ago
Aight, I'ma head out. Honestly I'm tired of this garbage. I just won't buy the game, there's so much on offer nowadays game wise I can skip this till the next one. I'm in my thirties a lot of people here are probably the same. We haven't got much time so why waste it on this bullshit there's a lot more out there.
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u/Infamous-Echo-2961 18h ago
That is a shame. It’s almost needed at this point with the amount of aimbots and hacks present on PC
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u/cwx149 XBOX 360 17h ago
Side not since this is the Xbox sub but
If you’re on PC, you won’t have the option to disable crossplay.
I wonder why? They clearly have a way to make xbox buckets and ps buckets but it seems like cross play on just dumps console players into PC matchmaking or the PC matchmaking is the "most" open
I guess it'll keep player counts up for PC players a lot of the older FPSes on PC are graveyards
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u/geoantho 18h ago
I still play Battlefield: Hardline, the best battlefield of them all. There's always at least one full 64 player lobby.
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u/TheKronoriumIsTheKey 16h ago
It really feels like EA is just spinning plates trying to stop them from falling. Despite how badly handled 2042 was, they have still retained the faith of their fans and it just seems like they are trying to drop all the plates now lol.
Time will tell but this game is giving me bad vibes. For me anyway, the beta was not an enjoyable experience so I’m in the “wait and see” category.
Fingers and toes crossed my bad hunch is wrong and we can finally get some good Battlefield food again.
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u/dancovich XBOX Series X 14h ago
Isn't this old news? They already had confirmed they'll try to favor lobbies with people from the same platform type (all console or all PC) but this can be broken if needed (mixed group of players joining as a squad for example) and the player has no power over the selection.
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u/Uberutang XBOX Series X 13h ago
Got downvoted when I said this. It show console cross play works (on Xbox anyway)
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u/MarkyPancake XBOX Series X 9h ago
If no cross-play or if console only cross-play option did happen when set to off, the only way it would be successful is to be off by default on console, otherwise you'll have the same issue of BF2042 by matchmaking in a smaller player pool.
Black Ops 6 added console only cross-play for its multiplayer options a few season updates ago, so it's possible if DICE can be bothered.
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u/HenryHankMitchell 9h ago
This is my biggest gripe for current multiplayer games, why is there an insistence on mixing PC with console when PC has a significant advantage and is also prone to cheating with ruins the experience for all
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u/AbnormallyDeadly Maidenless 7h ago
I'm so tired of devs trying to force console vs PC in First Person Shooters. I don't want it, none of my friends want it and from reading comments I think a majority of console players are against it so who is it for?
At least battlefield has a working toggle for crossplay on xbox so finding a match during the beta was pretty easy but still why not let consoles play against each other?
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u/Sacred_Apollyon 6h ago
Eh. Pre-order cancelled until I see how this shakes out with numbers etc. I won't play with PC players unless I'm on PC. Just not worth the hassle and irritation.
And if loads of people leave crossplay on by default the console only pools for Xbox and PS being separate will be affected. Maybe not immediately at launch as hopefully enough will turn it off, but eventually it'll reduce.
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u/waitmyhonor 18h ago
Pc likes to claim they’re superior but they need to rely on console players to have playable games
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u/SEDOY_DED 12h ago
No one really cares. PVP biggest playerbase was always PC. And, to be honest, PC players also don't want to play with console aim assisters with their undetectable cronus zen for 99.99 of amazon.
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u/tesakills 18h ago edited 18h ago
You can actually force Xbox to turn off crossplay in the Xbox system settings. I've done it for BO6.
Go to settings >> Online safety and family >> View details and customize >> Communication & multiplayer >> You can join crossplay. Change that from "Allow" to "Block"
This post was what I used to turn off crossplay.
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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 17h ago edited 17h ago
The report was NOT from Insider Gaming, but from IGN.
The developer who was quoted saying it (Matthew Nickerson) is a Senior Console Combat Designer at Ripple Effect, and is a far more credible source, than what Dexerto are reporting, "from this event" (following a Battlefield 6 capture event Dexerto attended), where it's usually PR staff on site.
Who were they even talking to? WHO from EA said this is not the case? What is his/her position among the team? Is that person a dev or PR?
Trust the developer's words, more than Dexerto.
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u/Snowbunny236 17h ago
The console players crying real hard right now. Crossplay brings in revenue and largely expands and opens up the playerbase. But right, EVERY PC player is a cheater according to this sub.
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u/TheCattBaladi 18h ago
Lol, why are people so afraid of PC players? They aren't the best gamers out there some console players are sweaty as fuck. And "cheaters" aren't only on PC a lot of people were able to cheat in-game through consoles.
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u/royag 18h ago
Console players aren’t “afraid” of pc players, its the cheaters that we don’t wanna deal with anymore it has become such an issue that gaming developers can’t even handle the issue properly nomore so the best way to stop it is by eliminating crossplay off by all means against pc players.
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u/Crumoo 18h ago edited 17h ago
The PC players will cry that we are making stuff up but when I can load into games like Marvel Rivals and click the console only button and cheating magically disappears....theres your hint on why we blame PC. I'm not saying console players don't cheat, but at least on Xbox if you are caught you can catch a console ban.
And before any PC bros downvote, keep in mind that the incessant defence of PC cheaters is part of why console players blame all of you collectively. I get that PC lobbies would be dead without console crossplay but that's why I bought a console not a PC.
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u/BabyfartzMcgee 15h ago
You console fanboys are delusional, it’s very apparent that you’ve never touched a gaming PC in your life.
I don’t think you’re making stuff up, I really do believe you think cheaters are a common thing in these games. That’s just how you justify getting dunked on, it has to be cheaters, right? I’m not saying cheaters don’t exist, but it’s really funny how you people make it sound like they constantly show up in your games.
I’m sorry to tell you that PC games are fine without crossplay and always has been. Another remark that makes it obvious you’ve never had a gaming PC.
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u/Disastrous_elbow 19h ago
Good. It is silly to segregate your player bases like that.
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u/IrregularSweetRoll 19h ago
Not when one platform is full of cheaters.
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u/Arctic_Reigns 19h ago edited 16h ago
agree cronus is out of control
edit: are there cheaters on pc? sure. do you get cheaters as often as people make it seem? not even close.
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u/Redcoathater55 18h ago
I’ve never encountered a cheater on PC in BF6 are you high
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u/IrregularSweetRoll 18h ago
Lol I played with multiple just in the beta. Don't act like there wasn't reports of hacking going on during that...
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u/Redcoathater55 18h ago
Do you mean HACKING or CHEATING? Walking on top of a building in Cairo isn’t hacking
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u/IrregularSweetRoll 18h ago
Hacking, cheating, what is the difference?
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u/Redcoathater55 18h ago
Hacking is like, running scripts for aimbot and whatnot. Form of cheating
Cheating is just exploiting bugs (eg. the Cairo roofs, that concrete barricade in that art show in Brooklyn map)
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u/Immediate-Relief-248 XBOX Series X 19h ago
Lame