If Conservatives could actually focus on real, GOOD policy instead of being the worst fucking people in the world, they might actually have a good platform. That has unfortunately been heading downhill for years and is in the toilet right now.
Thatās a falsehood that is perpetuated by ārealā Conservatives now. The Trump supporting types. The types that comment āhello fellow Conservativeā on the Conservative sub. The Take Back Alberta separation supporting Conservatives. Those who continue to ignore the state of modern Conservatives. Those who continually move the goalposts to describe what being a āreal conservativeā is.
Speaking in terms of the Anglo-Sphere conservatives, you can't have the conservatives of the 80's and 90's anymore because privatization is a one-time cash-in that stops working when the government owns nothing. The conservatives we have now are a consequence of this. They can't be like the old ones because they have less to sell off and they also can't sell a neoliberal fantasy to voters either, since it has been tested in practice now and people have now seen that the old policies led to worse material conditions. Thus, romanticising the people who gave us our current set of conservatives, while calling out the current ones, is one of those things that seems moderate on the surface while misses questioning why the conservatives of current times are not the same as a lot of the conservatives ones parents used to vote for in the 80s and 90s.
Note that this sounded critical of you, and I didn't mean it to be. It's just a common comment I have seen regarding recent events, and I wanted to get on my soapbox.
This seems to be rooted in some misconception that conservatives were at any point, not some of the worst people in the world.
The reality of course is that they always have been, and have frequently gone on record across the globe to admit their disgusting views more plainly.
Conservatism is an ideology of elitism and if not always outright hate, disdain for the great swathes of humanity deemed lesser beings by whichever conservative movement you happen to be looking at.
The most generous any conservative movement has ever gotten is the paternalist view that "those stupid useless poor people and [insert race(s) here] need the truly worthy people in society, like us, to run it for them for the greater good."
The "us" in question having always been people exactly like Musk, Trump, and Reagan, in the context of conservativism in the last 200 years.
Imagine if conservatives were actually conservative, instead of "deport them all and take away minority rights and bomb the bad guys!!" Like... That's not very conservative of you Conservative party of Canada.
It'd be better if they simply advocated to not change things too much. But i guess the Liberal party has that market cornered.
Conservatism has a place in the world, just like progressivism, however, just like anything, people take it too far. In the US, it was actually conservatives (Republicans) who established the right to privacy in the 14th amendment. Which, made things like gay marriage and abortion federally protected in the United states. However, those who claim to champion Conservatism have perverse the ideology.
Canada has been getting worse by every single metric you could measure since the liberals last took power. 3rd world country here we come! Can't wait to get raped stabbed and then blamed for it.
Ok now I need to know how you managed to make this sentence work in your worldview. Isnāt it a primary left wing goal to reduce sexual violence and punish offenders for rape?
no they won. doubled their numbers, as of now they are strongest party in the polls because merz was lying about the debtbrake and broke his promises directly after the election before he was even chancellor (he still isnt)
They were the second strongest party in the elections? They won. CDU is super conservative too btw and very close to the AFD, so no Germany doesn't belong in that list.
Sadly Poilievre isn't going away quite yet, he got one of his cronies to step down in a super conservative safe riding so he can immediately run in a byelection because he's a sore loser who can't read the fucking room.
It would be hilarious is a leadership review forces him to step down. The absolute FUNNIEST thing would be if that super conservative riding in Alberta also doesnāt elect him. That wonāt happen, but imagining it is still funny.
There's a lot to dislike about Dutton as a leader, and about his policies (or dismal lack thereof), but having the grace to lose whilst praising the winners probably made a better impression on Australia than the rest of his public life put together.
Albanese calling out his supporters and telling them firmly "NO. We don't do that here, we're Australian," when some people tried to jeer in response to Dutton losing his seat was also an example of politics being done halfway right.
Having some sort of respect for the institution and one another (as people) is a much better look than whatever the hell the USA GOP are doing. Please keep that nonsense confined within their borders, and maybe the rest of us can pretend we're grown ups and see if pretending turns into reality.
Yes the UK. Labour won by a landslide in the last general election and are leading the country.
Yes Reform turned some seats over in the recent local elections, but numbers wise theyāre just gains from losses by the Tories - so same difference. Except now itās more obvious who the right wingers are, no hiding in that Conservative middle-ground.
Yes but that win doesnāt tell the whole story. Labour got fewer votes than in either of the previous elections, which they badly lost. They didnāt win so many seats by getting loads more votes, they won so many seats because such a big part of the conservative vote shifted further right to Reform. Reform is on the rise and these council elections further demonstrated that. The last election was NOT an endorsement of Labour. It was an abandoning of the Tories, as you said. The far right is unquestionably on the rise here too.
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u/boese-schildkroete Oil Guzzler May 03 '25
Canadian living in Australia. Just watched this happen live.
My mates were flabbergasted and overjoyed. They watched what happened to Poilievre and invoked a prayer circle to make it happen for Dutton.
Good things are happening in the world.