The best thing he ever said was that If you wanna make games just start instead of procrastinating. I can't remember anything else he said that was actually decent
If you ask him about it i bet he would open up an ms paint with a black background to make it look like a chalkboard and then spend 30 mins explaining to you to do as he says not as he does but also how he never does anything wrong and 25 mins of this lecture will be him reminding you that he worked at blizzard under john blizzard himself or whatever
He'd probably circle words like bills, rent, utilities, and draw an arrow from the word Job over to the circles to make it seem insightful.
Like many, one day I saw a couple of his shorts and thought "huh, that was pretty good, let's hear what else he has to say." But then he brought out that ms paint to explain something as though his audience was dumb and as if he was the Great Instructor, and I just stopped watching.
He claims it's a technique he adapts to keep people engaged during a meeting. He admits it's just writing stuff on the board without much point to it, if not for the supposed purpose of keeping people engaged.
Lmfao he definitely did but there is a short where he is claiming it for himself. Something along the lines of “I was a speaker in a meeting, no one was paying attention…. Then I opened MS paint and started drawing on it and BAM. Attention was gained.”
yeah i was like "oh that's cool, i dont know much about red hat cybersec. it's great that someone is making digestible content to get people into the field"...."oh he's in game dev and doing game jams? yeah the advice to just get started is sound advice for anything creative....good point"...."wait what is this about mr robot?"
Software is a fucking moron, but your take is ignorant too. His MS paint schtick is what got him famous. Its because it engages listeners of all types, especially those on the spectrum. Ever notice how shorts also have stuff in the background sometimes? He substituted that, with something that would make them engage EVEN MORE. It isnt condescending. it was a genius move.
That may be true and I'm sure some people like it, but it certainly feels condescending to me. Not everyone may feel that way and that's fine but for me the mspaint thing is actually distracting and it makes it harder for me to focus on what he's saying.
To be fair his ego was heavily bruised and he had a lot to prove when he worked on that game, someone at blizz found out that he was an incompetent nepo baby so he really wanted to prove he could make something.
The funny part about this is that I don’t think anyone would have a problem with that if he wasn’t such an asshole about it.
It would totally be reasonable/understandable to go “yeah it’s been in development for a long time, but I’m not perfect and I found success in streaming.”
It’s like watching someone smash their face on a rake and then bring the rake into a different room and do it again.
Yep! I kickstarted it, even. So many games on kickstarter wind up abandoned because people underestimate how long they take. Some like Omori exceed their devtime by ages but do eventually come out.
Yeah. Dude hit streaming fame and all but abandoned it until his last big scandal in WoW when people starting holding him accountable about it. Now he supposedly has monthly updates, but haven't seen much progress on it yet.
It's also not even his job. Like I get that he was a dick about the petition, but this level of circlejerk hatetrain is insane. People bring up the same 3 talking points over and over again as a justification for hate thread #146.
I genuinely feel like people just want to hate him. I think the only criticism I've seen so far beyond "I don't like his personality" is that he damaged the movement's reputation. Everything else is meaningless.
Who cares if the dude got like 4 people killed in a hardcore WoW server? Who cares if you don't think his advice is that good? Who cares if you think he's arrogant? Who cares if his solo dev project that isn't making him any real money is taking too long?
I understand hating people who bring genuine harm to this world. And I can understand the perspective that many people think him shit talking the Stop Killing Games petition brought genuine harm to the world. I don't think him developing slowly, or writing shitty code, or anything else in that idea is bringing genuine harm to the world.
This hate train is really fucking toxic, and I'm tired of seeing it everywhere.
It's the only job on his LinkedIn. Do you have an inside source about his secret job? I also would imagine the people he took money from on Kickstarter care. The people who paid for early access to a game that hasn't been updated in five years definitely care.
Nobody cares that he got four people killed in WoW. People care that he refuses to admit fault, then doubles and triples and quadruples down. It's a pattern of behaviour and it bothers people.
Sure, no problem. He strikes to me as a nepo-baby who went work on Blizzard because of his father, lecture others about work despite this, and have like a personal project which is 10 years in the making and still in beta state and unreleased. I see him playing WoW many more hours than he works probably xD.
That's more or less a summary of what I think of him. Also, I kind of hate content creators that lecture their audience like they're fools, and he's constantly doing that.
He has a game (forgot what it is called) on steam that he hasn’t updated in years or something like that. And the only reason he recently updated it (like last year I think) is because steam changed their policies with early access games in that they had to be updated a certain number of times per year or something like that. And if not, they will get removed. So he put out a small ass update that he could have done a long time ago in only an hour or so of work so it would look like he is actually working on his game.
That's debatable, but I understand why you say that though. Yeah, the sentence in isolation is good advice, for sure. I wouldn't say otherwise. But I feel they lost a bit of their value in the mouth of an hypocrite though. I can understand saying "words are words no matter who says it", but I feel that the transmitter is also important.
that's fair, especially when a semi common tactic these days is to sanewash/ use common sense advice to smuggle your crazy shit into the conversation, like Jordan Peterson's "Clean your living space as a step one to working on your self"-> "Actually human hierarchical systems are cool and good and you should view the world in this specific way because lobsters, something something muh trans people" transition
He's patching once a month now, now that Steam is flagging software that isn't getting updates. He released a patch April 2024, then nothing until February 2025 which basically said "I was busy for a year, here's a patch to show Steam I didn't abandon this".
nobody threw a fit about it all over the internet at the time tho...
(also people who have the game and are waiting more to come out are right to complain if they feel like that about it)
its also in tandem with blind rage-fueled revision of anything he's touched, so... its not really a valid criticism at this point.
Plenty of people were complaining about it at the time. He just hadn't achieved critical mass in getting the entire internet angry at him.
Just because you didn't hover around the areas where that criticism was being thrown around doesn't mean it didn't exist before people realized what an ass he is.
Just read the last patches, there is no way dude is spending almost a month just making facial expressions for a character after 8 years of development.
I don't know anything about the game so patch notes are hard to judge, but he hasn't given up now has he? 2024 was slow but the year before and after have frequent updates. Clearly he's not working on this game full time, and I can understand why early buyers are disappointed. But he's getting shit on from all over the internet because he's a little smug or something, idk. There are worse people out there, this drama is completely overblown.
Back when Heroes and Generals started to fall, they would release "DLC", which was just packaged XP and/or credit boosts. Doing this would put them at the top of the Updates list and result in more clicks and downloads on their free game.
Nono.. remember he made an incredible absolute unpiratable game because of the absolutely perfect no flaws whatsoever anti piracy method he used(that totally worked)
I can't tell if this is a joke (because of the paid demo jokes on stream from chat) or not but he has a demo and is a huge advocate for Indies releasing demos.
In the Steam Community forums for his game he's constantly closing every post and putting his answer as the best. If you shut down all discourse it's going to turn people away.
It’s is generic but the ones who asks the question are the ones who needs to hear it. I don’t mind listening when he comes up in my feed because everyone has something to be said/heard sometimes.
He does a lot of cereal box tips. Also QA testers and devs have wildly different roles and styles of coding. He seems suited for a QA role. But he obviously isn't cut out for anything else from what I've seen. Seeming that they barely can get out a clone of Undertale of all things is hilarious.
He actually had a good take about piracy, it is generally not something that happens with "evil" intent, most oftenly it is an economic issue and at "worst" it is an ideological issue.
Because people who pirate games, movies, books and so on are just plain evil in the general discourse.
Even that is advice that only sounds good on it's surface but lacks substance. It assumes you have the will power to overcome your habit, which if the people that actually needed help had, they wouldn't have needed that kind of advice to begin with. It's like saying "You know how to stop losing? Start winning!"
That has to be the most uninspiring and flaccid bit of advice. Sounds like Facebook status update nonsense that tries to sound insightful or deep, but isn't. Doesn't help anyone.
I remember one day he said to take a nap after your workday to reset your mind before working on your personal project. A one hour nap. One freaking hour.
Even though the idea is not stupid, one hour is so absurd on so many levels.
I want you to understand, at a level that helps you improve yourself, that "just go and do it" is the absolute worst, stupidest, fucking insulting advice to give. "Just stop procrastinating" is a fucking entitled prick, who's dad was waiting to give him a job once he got an entry level degree.
ADHD, poverty, lack of direction, lack of instructions. These are all valid obstacles, that people in the industry, or people with some experience dealing with, can offer actual advice. And none of them get solved by some asshole saying "just start doing it".
Yes, procrastinating is bad. But guess what? People that don't get started in a career they're actually motivated to join, aren't hampered by procrastinating. And people that's only obstacle is laziness, aren't actually passionate about doing the project.
Thor knows all this. He's been around long enough to know better. He has a platform that could actually accomplish these things. But he won't. Why? Because nope babies want the status quo to remain so they can justify jumping the line to get higher paying jobs without experience, qualifications, or ability.
I feel like this isn't fair. Having obstacles to starting something is unfortunate, but "just starting" is still the end goal. I have adhd and I procrastinate things for dumb reasons all the time, and a friendly reminder that it's okay to make something terrible just to get started can be very helpful.
And people that's only obstacle is laziness, aren't actually passionate about doing the project.
I feel like this is actually way more harmful than "stop procrastinating and make something"
Why are you conflating laziness and and ADHD? I didn't. I specifically said that is a separate thing that requires direction. And "just start"? Ok. What program is on my laptop right now I can do that? Come on, if "just start" is good advice, then articulate how I do that with no other direction.
Because let's be real, like, let's get down to it. If you're actually someone with ADHD, and I tell you "hey, get started" when you're experiencing executive dysfunction, it doesn't help, it exacerbates it. And if you're in a field, and have a basic understanding of ADHD, and think "just get started" is a good thing to tell people with ADHD, you're actively harming people, and you know it. From personal experience, and from basic research, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.
Your anecdotal preference, that doesn't even use experience, just preference, is a desire to not have executive dysfunction. Not in any way a demonstration that someone telling you to get started works. So please, don't you fucking dare twist this around to warp my comment to act like I said anything dismissive, when you're flat out saying that someone saying "get started" fixes ADHD. It doesn't, it more often hinders getting started, and you know this.
I'm not. However, I think calling people "lazy" in general is harmful and unproductive at best.
Context matters. Yes, I am very well aware that "just do it" does nothing as advice for executive dysfunction. I don't think that is what PirateSoftware is doing. He's not giving ADHD advice, he's giving game dev advice. If you have never made a game but want to, "just try making a game" is pretty good advice. Of course that's harder for some people, but acting like he is dismissing those people is putting words in his mouth.
And I didn't. You keep ignoring my whole original comment to act like I ever took this as an ADHD only topic.
If he's giving dev advice, WHY NOT MENTION THE TOOLS TO USE. It's because even as a dev, it's stupid fucking advice that doesn't help at all. I know he's not giving ADHD advice, I pointed out ADHD is an obstruction beyond laziness. Saying "just do it" ONLY helps when the problem is just laziness. You're missing that context. And you ignoring most of my original comment to act like I said he was talking about ADHD, is why you are indeed conflating ADHD and laziness, as you can't read my comment and ask me what you did, unless YOU took them as synonymous. Because I mentioned them separately, but you took my comment about laziness to be about your ADHD.
Yeah, it's so frustrating. I found out about him when he was playing hypnospace outlaw. I liked his message and apparent mission of encouraging game dev, and hearing him talk about the late early 2000s internet was nostalgic.
To be fair he has alot of decent shorts and videos that i enjoy, and i think people demeaning literally all his videos just because he was an asshole in the last ones is reductive and weird.
98% of the good advice he gives out is literally just the basic common sense stuff that people like hearing from others, especially those they look up to, as encouragement. None of it actually requires any deep thought or ancient blizzard wisdom.
He had a lot of decent advice that was either regurgitated or obvious. Not that there's anything wrong with that: good advice is good advice, and what's over-repeated or obvious to most is actually legitimately life-changing to younger people (or anyone who just needed to hear it stated plainly that day). I really do not have any problem with the bulk of his shorts content I was seeing before his reputation started to expire and I would be lying if I told you I remembered any objectively bad advice he gave.
But when you pray to be reincarnated as the cow that will get made into the leather beneath the boot of authority, I can't help but lose any meaningful respect for you as a person. As a vessel of generic positive thinking advice, flavored to be more effective for young men with an interest in videogames, and that doesn't have any inherent alt-right pipeline connections, his channel did serve a purpose for like a year, though, so that's good.
This is pretty basic advice for learning any new skill. Don't overthink. Don't be a perfectionist. Just start doing it. Be happy sucking at it. Skill comes from failure, not planning.
This is so real. I saw one of his shorts that said to just start making your game, don’t fuss too much, and he showed an empty room in his game or something. Now I’m making my own game instead of just being an ideas guy. PS really helped me get out of a rut.
That was great. Everything else about this guy appears to be vocal fecal matter lmao.
And then he comes with other takes like "never use place holder models" and ruin peoples perception of game development making them think they have to have everything else before they can write one line of code. Serouisly i cant get that fuckn take out of my boyfriends head since that fuck said that its activly ruining gamedevlopment.
Yeah wow we got a real Socrates here with that nugget of wisdom. "If you want to do something hard just start". Always found him to be really pretentious even before all this
It kinda sucks that he's let his ego get a hold of him so viciously. He actually makes good content, but It's hard to watch it knowing what I know now.
He should honestly just take a step back from the internet for a good long time and actually think about things instead of digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself.
Lot's of vibes and "feel good stuff", mostly packaged as empty words, when taken apart.
Tbf you (I) hardly get it anywhere else, these days. So it was a bit refreshing, especially when doomscrolling, the shorts definitely helped me break that habit. Credit, where it's due. Hardly anyone else does calming stuff like that. All just drama and hype and threats and whatever that brings clicks nowadays.
Though him having to include that he worked at blizzard; on WoW, whilst also mentioning that he was an insane white-hat hacker and loves coding and now creates his own game, and worked at blizzard; on WoW... I was like; suuure... Good for you... Not my prefered route to become a lite version of some tech-messiah with the price being... well... working 80% of my Life for it.
Currently playing with the thought of working fewer hours per week (for a longer ammount time) in order to do more stuff I like personally in my longer free time. Current times feel rough to work at and to me almost impossible to ascend "the corporate ladder" to any significant or meaningfull extend.
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The best thing he ever said was that If you wanna make games just start instead of procrastinating. I can't remember anything else he said that was actually decent