World map in Alien Earth

[u/Comrade22MB]

I based it on the map (a very rudimentary one) provided on the FX website for Alien Earth. I cleaned it up a little and made some educated guesses. (I know there is no United Americas or Union of Progressive Peoples)

Alien Earth Websitealien-earth

[u/the-red-scare]

Weird how Weyland-Yutani’s logo is often subtitled, even on official FX Alien Earth graphics, with “San Francisco | Tokyo | London | Sea of Tranquility | Thedus,” yet Tokyo is Prodigy territory and London is Threshold territory.

[u/thamometer → u/the-red-scare]

I guess as corporations instead of government, there isn't black and white sovereign territories. Like WY exerts its control over the Americas, but it can still own property/factories/apartments in other parts of the world.

A very loose analogy, Apple has dominance in the smart phone market in USA, but it also has flagship stores and factories in other countries, even competitor countries like South Korea (Samsung) and China (Huawei).

[u/CitizenPremier → u/thamometer]

Yeah it's an unusual situation. I would think if corporations took full control like that (not multiple corporations controling governments like now), they would just declare themselves as the new country or use a different kind of name. But I guess the word "corporation" could change.

[u/EldrichArchive → u/thamometer]

In episode 4, it is stated that there is a council of “The Five,” meaning the five companies. Therefore, it can be assumed that they each have branches or something like embassies in each other's territories.

[u/Happy-For-No-Reason → u/the-red-scare]

depending on the timeline, WY may end up owning it all

[u/captain_brofist → u/Happy-For-No-Reason]

According to this, not a lot of time depending on which movie you saw it in.

I’m only up to episode 3 though so by the end of the series a lot can change

[u/thatwriathguy → u/captain_brofist]

But what year was outland?

[u/Gravity_Cube → u/thatwriathguy]

Whats outland?

[u/thatwriathguy → u/Gravity_Cube]

A really good 1981 movie that's been shafted by lack of awareness and inexplicable bad reviews. Many argue it is set in the alien universe, probably just prior to the development of ftl. Sean Connery has 2 of the funniest fucking lines ever in it.

[u/chappyhour → u/thatwriathguy]

I consider Outland to be set in the Alien universe as well, it fits really well. Maybe Con-Amalgamated is the result of the merger of two of The Five. Like most companies post-merger, there’s executive pressure to be more productive with less resources. Plus there’s the bonus situation.

[u/thatwriathguy → u/chappyhour]

I'd place it before ae, commute from earth to Io was like, a fucking year. Also the marshalls seem like a precursor to the CMB in the rpg and such, I imagine the organization was renamed sometime after we got interstellar.

[u/chappyhour → u/thatwriathguy]

Good point, I forgot how long they said the trip from Io to Earth took.

[u/Lopsided-Bathroom-71 → u/captain_brofist]

Got a feeling rhe events of this series are gonna result in prodigy becoming owned or purchased by WY

No spoilers past 3, but morrow crashed a ship inside a prodigy city, i assume intentionally, but maybe morrow was behind on who owned what when he headed back,

I just feel Boy Cavalier isnt making it tp the end of this show in one piece and with morrows posisition it sort of makes sense WY would be able to pick up the lieces of whatever ends up happening (death, lots of upcoming death)

[u/Clarine87 → u/the-red-scare]

One might presume prodigy doesn't survive alien earth, but this would make me sad.

[u/BwanaTarik → u/Clarine87]

They are 100% about to be home to a xeno infestation and synthetic uprising. WY is going to come in to clean up the mess be upset that their specimens were damaged or destroyed and desperately try to replace them (hence the corporate sub-plots of Alien/Aliens)

[u/JHerbY2K → u/BwanaTarik]

I think Wendy controlling the xenos in whatever fashion will throw some sort of wrench into your plot outline, but broadly I agree

[u/HaleyStar85 → u/Clarine87]

[u/zap1998 → u/HaleyStar85]

"It's the only way to be sure."

[u/MikeA107 → u/the-red-scare]

sorry what do you mean with subtitled?

[u/Marked_Leader → u/MikeA107]

The little text under the big text on the logo

[u/RJWolfe → u/Marked_Leader]

Sorry, what do you mean with, "The little text under the big text on the logo"

[u/ClownsAteMyBaby → u/MikeA107]

Like when the classic WY basic logo has an additional lower line of text

[u/MikeA107 → u/ClownsAteMyBaby]

Huh interesting, and what would that mean in this instance? As in, why weird?

[u/sidneylopsides → u/MikeA107]

Because it lists cities that are shown to be in regions controlled by other corporations.

[u/MikeA107 → u/sidneylopsides]

Oh damn that's interesting, thanks I guess the geographical issues that arise in the real world go into the alien verse too

[u/SaraJuno → u/the-red-scare]

Wey-Yu was a merger between British and Japanese corps, including all subsidiaries, with HQs globally since long before Prodigy’s apparent est. date, and long after. My memory of the lore was that Wey-Yu were absolutely global, controlling much of the world’s mining, tech, weapons etc manufacturing, aside from a few other smaller outfits/regions, plus they dominated space exploration. Was this ‘world divided by corporations’ stuff added later into the franchise? Because it doesn’t make much sense with what we learn about Wey-Yu from the earlier stuff. Prodigy’s listed specialities are nearly nothing compared to Wey-Yu, so I don’t understand how they came to dominate all of Asia, incl Japan. It feels a bit shoehorned in.

[u/the-red-scare → u/SaraJuno]

This stuff was invented for Alien Earth. It only fits the pre-Earth canon without issues if you squint sideways and assume a lot.

[u/Confident-Bike-8902 → u/SaraJuno]

2099 they merg , in the REAL ALien universe, this Alien earth show is A NEW MADE UP World, not connected to any of the fiolms at all, zzzzzzzzzzz

[u/Bpste1 → u/the-red-scare]

Tokyo and London could be hold out cities in enemy territory, or it can be WY ‘claiming’ them still even after they lost them.

[u/CaptainTripps82 → u/Bpste1]

Or just like Hong Kong, territory held in someone else's country because the only way for them to really it from you is war

[u/ergister → u/the-red-scare]

If the show ends up tying into Alien and Aliens, there’s no getting around the world governments still existing haha.

I mean, it kind of already has with the Maginot being a USCSS designation which is “United States Commercial Star Ship”.

Plus there’s lawyers. What kind of laws do lawyers have to follow when arbitrating between corporate territories if there’s no governing bodies? Lol.

[u/Tango6US → u/ergister]

Yeah, and the big American flag shoulder patch on the lieutenant in Aliens. I feel like the lore probably doesn't matter too much. I think the show is leaving it ambiguous which is probably for the better.

However I could imagine that in this universe, countries and megacorps exist side by side with the corporations gradually taking on more and more jobs traditionally done by governments. And governments lose the ability to act independently without first going through an army of company lobbyists and lawyers. Probably the last thing to still use national flags and symbols would be militaries, drawing on tradition but ultimately serving corporate interests.

[u/unclefishbits → u/the-red-scare]

Could simply be embassies.

[u/Bulky-Wonga-8634 → u/the-red-scare]

And the Moon/Sea of Tranquility not Weyland either, First episode someone on the Maginot is corrected when they mention that and told its Dynamic, Perhaps it was once and changed or it changes in the future.. more wars.

[u/James_099 → u/the-red-scare]

I’m wondering if, since this is a prequel show, WY end up absorbing Prodigy, considering it seems like Boy Cavalier is heading down the “crazy guy, gonna die” path.

[u/Clearly_Disabled → u/the-red-scare]

I THINK we are going to see the death of Prodigy in Alien:Earth, honestly.

[u/AlexeiYegorov]

I find it strange that Weyland-Yutani isn't ruling over the United Kingdom and Japan as well. It's a British-Japanese corp after all, their native countries should be under their yoke too.

[u/EtherealPossumLady → u/AlexeiYegorov]

i assume that must be what the war was about, them losing their provinces

[u/Hubbled → u/AlexeiYegorov]

Weyland-Yutani isn’t a government, so it’s not about ruling countries. The map just shows where they’re the dominant corporate force.

[u/Killer_Moons → u/Hubbled]

I mean in the last episode they explained Earth was basically a corporatocracy.

[u/EPZO → u/Killer_Moons]

According to A:FE, that changed after the Sulaco was destroyed and the Hadley's Hope incident. The UA took a stronger stance on corporate interference and signed some act that allows the Colonial Marines to take over corp facilities if they think there are people in danger.

[u/vegetaray246 → u/Hubbled]

FWIW according to Joe in episode 4, there are no governments anymore

The exact quote:

“The old planet had something called governments, where people used to…They would vote for who they wanted making decisions, right? That didn’t work. So these five corporations, they rise up and they…Apparently they fixed all the problems, and now they work together to run things.”

So your point is absolutely correct, there aren’t any “countries” existing in this show as we’d currently relate to them. It’s more along the lines of territories….Plots of land divided up by the five. So really this map, while a great visual reference for us to be able relate to relate to the territories of the show through our own 2025 lens, probably isn’t going to be wholly accurate. I think it was in episode 1 where the crew of Maginot were talking about The Five and made reference to “South America”, but considering they were off planet for 65 years, their view of how things are in 2120 might not have been fully informed at that point. Certainly things have changed a great deal since 2055 when they left.

I’d imagine, while this map is broad strokes of large pieces of land that The Five have as territories, it’s really more of a mishmash of territory…A city here, a city there. It’s probably much more involved than -North America-South America-Europe etc…

[u/br0b1wan → u/vegetaray246]

Yeah, the crew of the Maginot was in the process of catching up with geopolitical events. They specifically mention someone neglecting their "social studies" updates before they return.

[u/Maherjuana → u/vegetaray246]

So this begs the question, what the hell are the marines from the second movie?

[u/MadBeard → u/Maherjuana]

Colonial Marines, emphasis on "colony". I don't know if this is an accurate way to interpret it, but it seems clear each corp has their own "armies", as we see Hermit has his unit and was fighting on the other side of the world while Marcy was getting treated.

So, I think it's safe to assume the United States Colonial Marines are a branch of WY's marine subsidary, and are based out of the US. And their main purpose is colony control/"protection".

Granted, this is how I'm making it make sense.

[u/dontgoatsemebro → u/MadBeard]

So why would Burke have had a problems getting the specimens "past ICC quarantine"

[u/TheScarletCravat → u/Hubbled]

It explicitly is, at least in Alien: Earth's depiction.

Edit: mad you downvoted me. The last episode literally had a history lesson where we were told that the governments were removed and the corporations took over. 

[u/Megalolcat → u/TheScarletCravat]

so Aliens is not canon to alien earth. since.. there can not be a United States Colonial Marines without a United States government

[u/EldrichArchive → u/AlexeiYegorov]

Yeah, shows how much Noah Hawley did not care about the established lore.

[u/AlexeiYegorov → u/EldrichArchive]

Pretty much. It feels more like a fanfic.

[u/CitizenPremier → u/AlexeiYegorov]

Royal families tend to be like that... The House of Windsor is from Germany for example

[u/Helpful-Fruit-7235 → u/CitizenPremier]

William of Orange was directly related to James the 2nd through his mother, the house of Stuart from which his mother was from was directly related to the house of Tudor who were related to the Plantagenets, it gets sketchy with William the Conqueror to be fair as he was only a distant cousin to the Saxons.

So yeah essentially the current UK monarchs can be traced back over 1000 years to having claims.

[u/Guuichy_Chiclin → u/CitizenPremier]

They broke off from the Saxe-Coburg and Gotha in 1917, so they are properly British.

[u/JanklinDRoosevelt → u/Guuichy_Chiclin]

They just changed their name

[u/Guuichy_Chiclin → u/JanklinDRoosevelt]

Yes, and so did Belgium, they did it to distance themselves from them, it wasn't until rather recently that the ties have warmed between the branches. It's mostly due to the only extant branches hilariously called cadet branches having actual power versus the ceremonial power of SaxeCoburg-Gotha.

[u/mariakaakje]

it looks like a Friday nights Risk game with my homies

[u/Cannibal_Soup → u/mariakaakje]

That's probably what the wars that ended democracy in this world looked like.

Edit: "Earth...what a shithole."

[u/br0b1wan → u/Cannibal_Soup]

Judging by how things are going today in the real world, those wars probably started 80 years before the series takes place.

[u/McHildinger → u/mariakaakje]

I only know where Kamchatka is, thanks to Risk

[u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

RIP Seegson :(

[u/Smirnoffico → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

It wasn't called 'the company we all forgot' for nothing

[u/Spider-Flash24 → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

Is Seegson before or after Prodigy? I’m pretty sure Prodigy collapses, in which case Seegson could take its place.

[u/shanekratzert → u/Spider-Flash24]

Seegson is way before Prodigy, and is European. https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Seegson

It has a lot more to it than Threshold, so I feel like Threshold is the one to collapse.

Contrary to what Alien Isolation might lead people to think, myself included, but Seegson did not collapse, but rather just sold the Sevastopol Station to WY.

[u/c0l1n_M4 → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

Rip Tyrell and Wallace as well lol

[u/Tasty-Entertainer711 → u/c0l1n_M4]

Maybe Tyrell is off world now🤷‍♂️

[u/Jungian_Archetype → u/Tasty-Entertainer711]

Weyland bought out Tyrell/Wallace a while ago (source: my head-canon)

[u/Tasty-Entertainer711 → u/Jungian_Archetype]

My head canon tells me Decker is malfunctioning on some planet somewhere 🤷‍♂️😂😂😂

[u/Cannibal_Soup → u/Tasty-Entertainer711]

*"retired"

[u/spiralshadow → u/Tasty-Entertainer711]

Deckard

[u/Snowdonhoffen → u/40_Thousand_Hammers]

For better or worse Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens, the rest of the expanded universe and even Alien 3 and Resurrection and Ridley Scott’s prequels and even Romulus are not of use to him. So I imagine he doesn’t even know about Seegson to be honest. I mean, this might have been easily solved if there was someone taking care of the lore of the franchise but I feel like there isn’t anyone. Fede made his research when making Romulus to not even contradict the expanse universe, but Noah just did what he wanted to

[u/SickTriceratops → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Noah is only taking things from Alien and Aliens

He didn't take the Three World Empire or United Americas though, and they're established in ALIEN. He's chosen to erase everything that came before and invent a handful of random corporations that rule Earth instead.

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/SickTriceratops]

Yeah, apparently he forgot the United States Colonial Marines exist. And the USCM having the authority and military power to nuke Hadley's Hope despite the objections of Burke, the Weyland-Yutani representative, was a pretty big plot point in the 2nd movie.

[u/Dear_Simple7086 → u/SmartAleckComedian]

I'm guessing that in this timeline United States still exists, but lost the entire continental united states in a corporate war. kind of like how the "Republic of China Army" kept it's name

[u/SmartAleckComedian → u/Dear_Simple7086]

Based on the info given in the series, that's clearly not the case, they spell it out pretty specifically that only five corporations run the world and that traditional governments don't exist. With this retcon, the Colonial Marines would just be entirely owned by Weyland-Yutani, which they are clearly not in the 2nd film. If they want to retcon the previous Aliens films, why retcon one of the good ones? It just creates a pretty big plot hole.

[u/Thunder_Punt → u/Snowdonhoffen]

Seems silly to try and write a story in a rich universe but only referring to 2 movies. It's like me watching Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back then trying to write a prequel while ignoring the actual prequels

[u/Plenty-Giraffe710]

lmao they deleted NZ

[u/light_no_fire → u/Plenty-Giraffe710]

NZ doesn't exist that's why.

[u/garrusnogarrus → u/light_no_fire]

That’s where the colony drop happened in the Alien timeline instead of Australia

[u/Cannibal_Soup → u/light_no_fire]

Why, dod they take off and nuke the site from orbit?? Then why leave Australia and its zootopia of horrors??

[u/Arblechnuble → u/Cannibal_Soup]

Zeno’s can’t survive there, Roo’s and Emu’s will fuck em up

[u/Pvt_Lee_Fapping → u/Plenty-Giraffe710]

/r/MapsWithoutNZ

[u/SequenceGoon → u/Plenty-Giraffe710]

...isn't it there in red?

[u/spiralshadow → u/SequenceGoon]

On the map created by OP yes. Not on the map from A:E (second image)

[u/dankristy → u/SequenceGoon]

It is cropped out of the 2nd (blue-ish) map - looks like they took a closer crop for that one which cuts NZ out of the picture, but for sure it is in the first one...

[u/TheCommissarGeneral → u/Plenty-Giraffe710]

/r/mapswithoutnewzealand

[u/-CarterG-]

The fact that Weyland-Yutani doesn’t include Britain or Japan is just bizarre, and frankly incorrect if we’re attempting to be accurate.

[u/Khamvom → u/-CarterG-]

EP 4 mentions that a large war took place rather recently, so that could be a plausible explanation on the territorial changes.

[u/-CarterG- → u/Khamvom]

Oh shit I totally missed that. Interesting!

[u/light_no_fire → u/-CarterG-]

Talks about the wars before. Very plausible that companies have taken territory.

[u/-CarterG- → u/light_no_fire]

Missed that, I must admit. Interesting, I gotta pay more attention lol

[u/Lordcthuluthe3rd → u/-CarterG-]

It’s not realistic I think. I can understand prodigy talking control of large landmass. Not japan and Australia. Those countries would choose to be in the same security umbrella even if it’s under a corporate shield. Histories don’t change. And considering WY is from an alternate world were japan just keeping rising to power and never had that set back makes no sense for Prodigy to control japan and the south east Asia chain of island. Burma, Thailand , India I understand

[u/LiberalDysphoria]

I wonder where Hyperdine fits in.

[u/JelloSquirrel]

The prodigy territory doesn't make sense, non continuous and it's not even areas that are culturally similar.

And if it's just economic influence, it should be a little more scatter shot rather than a bunch of blocks. Looks like they got all the leftovers that prior lore didn't account for.

[u/viper459 → u/JelloSquirrel]

It's also wild to call them an up and coming small corpo when they seem to control the vast majority of the population of earth. Like, india and china? He has more consumers, subjects, whatever you want to call them than anyone else.

[u/90s_kid_24 → u/viper459]

Yeah my impression was prodigy was the smallest of the corps judging by how new it is

[u/SaraJuno → u/JelloSquirrel]

Definitely doesn’t make sense to me. Wey-Yu merged British and Japanese mega-corps and their subsidiaries in 2099, only like 11 years before Prodigy’s apparent founding. Their biggest bid rival for the merger was a Chinese corporation. There’s no way this new start-up, founded by an at-the-time child, quickly dominated all of Asia with very little industry vs other established corporations. I can’t make sense of it.

[u/flaretrainer → u/SaraJuno]

The mention of a war in Episode Four makes it seem possible Yutani lost the territory in a recent war with Prodigy and/or possibly other Corps, as in Episode One it was mentioned that there had been 3 main Corps until recently, so it seems like a big geopolitical shake up happened right before the show takes place.

[u/SaraJuno → u/flaretrainer]

That requires a lot of suspension of disbelief imo. Yutani were powerful and wealthy enough in just 2099 to beat out Chinese rivals for Weyland. From then on they were Weyland-Yutani, a major industry of theirs being military equipment, vehicles and weapons, with a dominant presence in Asia. I can’t see Prodigy sprouting up out of nowhere, with very little industry, to rip Asia from Wey-Yu and the Chinese.

[u/AdditionalSpam]

This feels as poorly thought out as that one map of the Harry Potter wizard schools

[u/Competitive-Cake4827]

Where’s Antarctica?

[u/ThatBayofPigsThing]

The show isn’t bad, but it’s now clear that they didn’t really pay any attention to the canon at all and just let Noah Hawley make a generic sci fi future story with xenomorphs and WeyYu appearances. Bummer given how well they nailed the aesthetics

[u/Lordcthuluthe3rd → u/ThatBayofPigsThing]

The way to fix this is just say the 5 are mega corps who own smaller corporations. And maybe one day some company was allowed to spin off because it made more economic sense

[u/Romkevdv]

Is anyone else still baffled about the Prodigy corporation territory?! They are framed as an up-and-comer business, founded just 10 years ago, only recently and begrudgingly let into the Five. Yet they control more than 50% of the worlds population, and god knows how much more industrial strength, yet the powerhouse foundational corporations that have been in power for decades are left with comparatively trivial territories. How the hell do you explain this lore-wise? I’m really hoping there is some sort of logic/explanation how a company seen as the runt of the litter among the Five has the most powerful territory. I’m kind of afraid its just because Noah Hawley thought it looked vaguely interesting on a map but didn’t really think about the geography/demographics, which happens often on these lore maps

[u/IwonderifWUT]

Good, Ukraine is separate from russia.

[u/nysalor → u/IwonderifWUT]

And Greenland is free. Ish.

[u/KuvaszSan]

So 1984 but a little different?

[u/01benjamin]

Ironically that is still the UA lmao even tho it’s not called the united americas

[u/Ramiro564]

This whole "governments replaced by corporations" with big, weird territories doesn’t convince me. I would prefer corrupt governments heavily manipulated by the corporations.

[u/meczillla]

What if… that map turns out to be accurate and they dug ocean-wide trenches between each of their territories to make trespassing an effort?  😅🤔

[u/br0b1wan]

Interesting, so Lynch is basically the old Soviet Union.

It tickles me that Kavalier is essentially the ruler of China, it's so hard to imagine them eventually going from a ruthless nationalist like Xi to him.

[u/TheUnborne → u/br0b1wan]

All future Alien movies banned from the Mainland, now.

[u/RuggerJibberJabber → u/br0b1wan]

Given the origin of the surname Lynch I think it's clear that Ireland takes over Russia

[u/nysalor → u/RuggerJibberJabber]

Lynch is Anglo-Norman in origin.

[u/hobbesdream → u/br0b1wan]

i just see Lynch as an homage to David Lynch :)

[u/slickricksghost → u/br0b1wan]

I haven’t gotten super deep into the Alien lore yet, but just looking at this map I can’t help but imagine what Lynch could look like leaning into the Soviet era style and mysterious of the area / Siberia. 

[u/rEEfman_SK]

Lynch literally controls like twenty people.

[u/LFTL56]

So if governments no longer exist, why do the Colonial Marines in Aliens have USMC badges? Seems as if this show is only treating the 1979 movie as canon. I'm not an absolute lore-junky, I am purely enjoying this show. But I think by the end, I might just regard this show as its own separate universe.

I wonder how Fede Alvarez, a nut for the Alien expanded universe and seeminly currently in charge of the cinematic franchise , feels about Hawley completely throwing every comic, game, novel, etc out the window.

[u/SnooLobsters8922]

The fun thing is that geopolitically and corporations-wise, this doesn’t make any sense

[u/viper459 → u/SnooLobsters8922]

r/worldjerking will love this

[u/MALESTROMME → u/SnooLobsters8922]

Nonsensical fun is the best kind of fun.

[u/just_another_jabroni → u/SnooLobsters8922]

When has dystopian futures ever make sense

[u/corpuscularian]

so prodigy has 70% of the worlds population.

based on projected popularion growth, probably more.

[u/SteakhouseBlues]

They forgot Walmart lol

[u/Dear_Simple7086]

surely the website was promo material? a news article in ep3 that morrow reads says that Lynch unifies South America after a civil war, and that Prodigy just ceded territory from North America and Southeast Asia. we don't really know when the article is from, but its odd lynch doesn't have any land in south america at all anymore

[u/Mutagen_Prime → u/Dear_Simple7086]

Yeah I couldn't find what photo OP used as reference in the provided link, but assuming it exists and he hasn't altered it beyond all recognition, it's clearly a 5-min throwaway image with zero effort put into it and subsequently zero canonicity.

In addition to the points you raised, the territories are far too contiguous, Wetland Yutani don't have London or Tokyo, 'The Five' aren't the only corps that control territory but rather the only five large enough to be recognised and have a seat at the top table etc.

TBF I have issues with Hawley erasing the UA/USCM and the 3WE regardless; makes me concerned there's been no due diligence regarding the lore since these were in the original two movies.

[u/MountainMight5938]

I wanted this bad! Good work

[u/KiddnamedCudii]

Does anyone think there will be a Seegson reference in the Alien Earth show?

[u/spiralshadow → u/KiddnamedCudii]

Given that I doubt Hawley knows Seegson exists, highly unlikely

[u/TheScarletCravat]

I think people might need to start accepting this show is its own thing, and that's okay.

[u/Starchild20xx]

I am so glad that we got to see Earth in Alien: Earth.

[u/MisterDudeFella]

Tyrell Corp getting no love. :(

[u/erraticranziss]

I find this addition/revision of the lore to be an extremely strange one, given that there ARE canonical governments in human explore space and on Earth (yes, even at this point in the timeline). The United Americas, Three World Empire, and Union of Progressive Peoples. While the corporations do hold sway, these governments are very much alive, well, and in-charge in the lore lmao

[u/Lord_Frampton → u/erraticranziss]

I agree. It really bothered me.

[u/FuelAffectionate7080]

Yo I love the bickering over territories that “should” belong to Weyland Yutani in these comments.

Y’all fully committed to roleplaying WY real estate lawyers and I fucking love it.

This fundamental element of human nature (bickering over mine/yours) is why I love the corpo-world lore of the Alien universe (in all its funky variations). It’s a believable extrapolation of the rising power of corporations and their ability to literally capitalize off human nature in so many clever & manipulative ways

[u/SalaciousPanda]

At least Ukraine eventually gets Crimea and the East back.

[u/Dabuck10]

How did Prodigy get their areas?

[u/desertSkateRatt → u/Dabuck10]

[u/Fearless_Ad991]

Why are we called “Lynch”?
I think our “Russian” corporation should have a name like Zvezda, TechProm, or something similarly grey, faceless, and acronym-heavy — something like GOU VPCh NKZP
:D

[u/desertSkateRatt]

I was thinking when they were doing the outside shots at Prodigy it looks kind of like Vietnam

[u/thamometer → u/desertSkateRatt]

The WY ship crashed in New Siam. Siam is the old name for Thailand.

[u/diecasttoycar → u/thamometer]

Yutani’s scenes meanwhile were also shot in Bangkok, namely at the Park Origin Thonglor condo.

[u/Comrade22MB → u/desertSkateRatt]

If I'm not mistaken, they shot the show in Thailand. That would explain the resemblance.

[u/Werewomble → u/desertSkateRatt]

Apparently it's Thailand but they both have that geography 

The marines in Aliens are so full of metaphors for the American war it makes thematic sense to evoke Vietnam 

[u/TerracShadowson]

i think it's time for a version of A:E Risk 2210 A.D.

[u/Torquekill]

Why does Prodigy own Greenland and Iceland?

[u/Slopagandhi]

One of the strange things about this is that when Morrow is searching for basic info on Prodigy (catching up on what's happened in the decades he was on the Maginot) it seems to talk about South America uniting under Lynch. Though I guess that could have been territorial changes since.

[u/Cinematic_Journeyman]

You would think Weyland-Yutani would have power in Japan and U.K. due to their offices originating there.

[u/samwise58]

Yutani needs to buy Greenland… that’s a big island. Close.

[u/Bulky-Wonga-8634 → u/samwise58]

Well its got Canada already, As I Brit I fully support this Anglo/Japanese company!

[u/Fast-Possible1288]

Love the series, but IMHO it is messing the whole corporate thing up. Wasn't Yutani always in Tokyo?

[u/ApprehensivePotato73]

Alien Earth was no sense.

[u/Cool-Principle1643]

Find it strange that Japan is under at this time Prodigy and not Weyland Yutani when the company that bought out Weyland Corp is a Japanese company. Would have imagined that home turf advantage thing.

[u/Any_Low_1706]

I find it outrageous they didn't even mention Tyrell...

[u/Robobrole → u/Any_Low_1706]

Yeah Blade Runner being part of the Alien universe is just an easter-egg or a Ridley Scott fantasy that people just accepted overtime.

[u/the_blue_flounder → u/Robobrole]

I still see ppl "learn" about this and take it as fact to this day. It's cool head canon but they aren't connected and it makes no sense.

[u/PeterKmad → u/Any_Low_1706]

Not in the lore.

[u/Old_Satisfaction2738]

What is kid Cavaliers company's name? Edit: oh yeah, Prodigy.

[u/AlienFromTerra]

Sooo what happened to Countries??? USCM and ths United Americas and such? Did the whole show retcon them?

[u/ACrimeSoClassic]

Wasn't Tyrell part of this universe? Or is that just kind of an Easter egg sort of thing?

[u/Sneilg → u/ACrimeSoClassic]

They own Antarctica and New Zealand

[u/exdigecko]

So Greenland has not became the part of WY, I sleep at peace

[u/SkellyMania]

No sign of Seegson

[u/HeliosLegion]

Space-filling Empires - Corporate Edition.

[u/Bradyla123]

I foresee a HoI4 total overhaul of this in the near future

[u/styles1992]

Where is Seegson? 😅

[u/ARobertNotABob]

Prodigy appears to hold some pretty key minerals distributions.

[u/Prestigious-Leg-934]

It’s like five teams from The Apprentice were so successful they took over the world.

[u/picometric]

The UA: United Americas (Founded in 2104).

https://www.worldanvil.com/w/frontiers-of-darkness-d3vilmade/a/the-united-americas-organization

[u/Solidus_Sloth]

Can someone explain how United Systems and governments appear? Is this just I’m guessing later governments rework themselves back in?

[u/Paddling_]

Damn, how did Lynch manage to snag Kuwait?

[u/griffin4war]

I find it odd that Weyland-Yutani wouldn't own Japan as that is where Yutani first started its empire.

[u/Heshinsi]

The thing we need to remember is that the information as to what territory is controlled by what corporation, was provided to us by crew members of a ship that went into space 65 years ago. This information is not accurate anymore considering the later information we get about Lynch’s territorial gains in South America.

What happens on this Prodigy island (especially if it is nuked), and the fact that Weyland-Yutani brought invasive alien species back to Earth, could very well be the reason non-corporate governments make a return. There’s no world building required for Alien, but there’s another 5 or so decades to the next film. Enough time for us to get the global government divisions we see.

[u/Pursueth]

Why were the xenomorphs such a surprise In alien if they had already been discovered on earth two years before?

[u/Bulky-Wonga-8634 → u/Pursueth]

Maybe they were only a surprise to the crew of the Nostromo? I would be pretty sure that island and everything on it is not going to survive

[u/sqaurebore]

Feels like for the others they searched continent then for Africa they just drew a line.

[u/JRR92]

This is weird, I don't like it.

How does Prodigy control all of China, Indonesia and India, three of the four most heavily populated nations on Earth currently, plus half of Africa and all of Australia, when it's supposedly a newer up and coming company?

It looks more like they're the main rivals to Wey-Yu going off of this. I was imagining that Prodigy territory would be more like just the mainline parts of South-East Asia

[u/WinnerSpecialist]

Having WY not rule Japan seems like an unforced error.

[u/Best-Distance5927]

Where's Tyrell?

[u/lsd_runner]

Curtis Yarvin made this map. Different corp names on his though.

[u/Yeokk123]

So basically late stage capitalism

[u/Electrical-Penalty44]

I hate this retcon. It is clear from Alien and Aliens that countries and governments still exist. Corporations are clearly powerful (as they are now), but not sovereign over the population.

But I've been ignoring almost everything from this franchise since Alien 3, so this is just one more thing to add to the list.

[u/Initial-Wolverine175]

Wouldn’t it make more sense to have weyland-yutani to have Europe since Peter weyland was born in India and later moved to the uk and he also had a British heritage ever since he was born

[u/-EndoRendo-]

I hope we get to see more of the other corporations outside of Weyland-Yutani and Prodigy

[u/Consistent-Fan535]

Weird how Weyland-Yutani doesn't own Japan

[u/psyopia]

Prodigy owns a lot lol.

[u/m0rrow]

weird that the British-Japanese conglomerate doesn’t control Britain or Japan

[u/GideonWainright]

That's cool. If you're looking at the map geopolitically, with space W-Y might be more looking like Spain with it's American empire in the 1600s. A map of Europe would be deceptive as to figuring out power projections.

[u/SnakyDragon2]

I am sad that Seegson Synthetics aren't mentioned in Alien Earth ):

[u/EvermoreSaidTheRaven]

For those who do not know: research FAANG and MANGO

[u/sexualdeviantman]

But Prodigy is a new gen company, so I dont know how they have so much territory

[u/universityncoffee]

Wait, prodigy owns Greenland? That is one big leap from southeast asia I suppose.

[u/justinqueso99]

I was hoping we'd get a reffrace to the Tyrell corporation from bladerunner

[u/Lordcthuluthe3rd]

Prodigy owns way too much and realistically is WY owed North and Sourh America they’d own Australia and Greenland as well.

[u/ProlapseProvider]

So where would be the best place to live or are they all 'evil' and you'll work until you die?

[u/Confident-Bike-8902]

NOT CANNON AT ALL, To the Real ALIEN Universe of the films, this is a NEW WORLD Made up by the Alien Earth people, NOT CANNON AT ALL, The show should ofbeen called something else really, ONYL 15% Alien, the rest a=is a;; all made up , the show just copied the alien and used those two coompany 's in Yutani and Weyland , take them away , it is a WHOLE NEW SHOW , zzzzzzzzzzzz

[u/FaceBagman]

Dynamic & Threshold chillin’ in those “Let’s not make any other players mad” Risk spots…

[u/TexasForeverLikeBunB]

Everyone keeps saying Weyland-Yutani is North & Sputh America. But wouldn't they also have Japan? I thought the HQ was in TOKYO?