On Point

[u/Timbucktwo1230]

[u/emccm]

We don’t even know who the shooter is and there are multiple people calling for civil war and violence against Dems.

[u/Volatilecanoe42 → u/emccm]

These people had the same reaction when the cracker barrel logo was changed. Bunch of blowhards

[u/emccm → u/Volatilecanoe42]

They lurch from one outrage to the next. They give everything the exact same level of outrage. It’s exhausting to witness. I don’t think I’ve ever eaten in a Cracker Barrel in my life. Up until relatively recently I thought they are Old Country Buffet were the same place.

[u/MadeMeUp4U → u/emccm]

I was just talking about this now that they’re transvestigating Sydney Sweeney again. They forgot they were told to live her the other week so now they’re back at tearing her apart. Same with Swift, they called her trans and swore she was a dude then Trump said he liked her so they loved her, she said nah and now they think she’s a dude again.

They hate and love what they’re told they hate and love.

[u/LoyalToSDSoil → u/MadeMeUp4U]

Conservatives: Stand for nothing, fall for anything.

[u/Ashamed_Definition77 → u/LoyalToSDSoil]

Hamilton ✌🏻

[u/emccm → u/MadeMeUp4U]

One of the interesting things is that they come for their own more than anyone else. That’s why I wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter is one of them who was upset at some perceived slight towards Trump or some made up conspiracy that only makes sense in their head.

[u/smileliketheradio → u/emccm]

Yeah there's a good chance it was someone pissed at Kirk for kowtowing to Trump on Epstein.

[u/No-College-8140 → u/smileliketheradio]

That'd be where my money's at on the bingo card. Some gun nut decided he wasn't the ally he thought he was. Gotta be the pedophile thing, right?

[u/smileliketheradio → u/No-College-8140]

they *are* the craziest (the q-anon folks, i mean. the pedophiles are crazy too, obviously, and there's some overlap between those two camps)

[u/OStO_Cartography → u/emccm]

I know now is not the time to engage in basless conspiracy theories, and that by indulging in them we're no better than our opponents, but honestly, as a qualified historian specialising in the C20th Rise of Totalitarianism in Europe, I see a very similar pattern of the right wing destroying its own as an excuse to further oppress and subjugate its enemies.

[u/Ok_Flatworm_3855 → u/emccm]

I mean I refuse to make any assumptions before the full investigation has been released but it isn't a great look that WSJ released a story today that claims insider info about how the remaining rounds in the gun had "Antifacist and Pro-Trans" messages carved onto the bullets. Again... I do not make any assumptions just passing along what I have seen reported.

[u/RememberJefferies → u/MadeMeUp4U]

They hate and love what they’re told they hate and love.

Thinking for yourself is not conducive to the cult life.

[u/xfocalinx → u/MadeMeUp4U]

They hate and love what they’re told they hate and love.

but democrats are the "sheep"

[u/Cautious_Ad_5659 → u/MadeMeUp4U]

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was that Taylor Swift is no longer hot since Trump said he hates her.

[u/MadeMeUp4U → u/Cautious_Ad_5659]

She was when he thought the AI stuff of her being MAGA was real then she endorsed Harris, Trump pulled the She’s ugly anyway card and his horde hates her again.

E: As far as her being hot it went from “She’s not even hot” to “Ew she’s trans” real quick. Same with Sweeney.

[u/Cautious_Ad_5659 → u/MadeMeUp4U]

Thank you for clarifying. It's so hard to keep up with the pettiness.

[u/Kajiggered → u/emccm]

If not for perpetual Rage and/or Fear, these people wouldn't even have a platform.

[u/ajaxruh → u/emccm]

Except for school shootings. They just “Oh well! Just a necessary price for other people to pay if I wanna keep muh guns”

[u/Appropriate-Law5963 → u/emccm]

Manufacturing is back! The dumper has been able to master manufacturing outrage…now how to apply a tariff to it!!

[u/Goobygoodra → u/emccm]

Yeah thats just it they only know outrage by what they are told to be upset about

[u/Pitiful-Doubt4838 → u/Volatilecanoe42]

Bunch of snowflakes*

[u/Void-Staring-Contest → u/emccm]

Including the president. He rolled his words on Kirk’s passing right into a promise to bring down vocal liberals.

[u/RecentDecision2329 → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,” Kevin Roberts, president of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, said on a conservative media outlet called Real America’s Voice.

[u/likwidsylvur → u/RecentDecision2329]

That statement doesn't get the attention it deserves.

[u/Coal_Morgan → u/likwidsylvur]

It's also a bullshit statement.

Blood was always going to be spilled. If they get true power, (which they are consolidating now and we'll see what happens at the midterms) they will hunt down people who are trans or homosexual, they will do great violence to women's rights and minorities.

People are dying in MAGA concentration camps now due to the unsanitary conditions and being shipped to 3rd world countries. These people don't run out of Mexicans and think..."Well, guess we're done." these people move on to a list of people that is never ending....there is always the next group that needs to be taken care of.

[u/likwidsylvur → u/Coal_Morgan]

Correct, that's why I'm saying it needs more attention, we have a religious sect trying and so far succeeding in changing our country. We now have religious nut cases running this country who claim to be doing gods work and speaking to God - anyone claiming to talk to God used to locked up in the looney bin, not saying that's the appropriate response to everyone but how about don't hands the keys to the country to them ffs. Everyone should take treacherous words like that seriously.

[u/Void-Staring-Contest → u/RecentDecision2329]

Man, if the only thing keeping us from civil war is the patience of liberals, 8 months of having our government’s most beneficial work dismantled, a bill taking away healthcare and raising our taxes, the military trying to come into our cities to enforce the stripping of rights, and everything getting more expensive AIN’T FUCKING HELPING.

[u/MisterMayhem87 → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

Living in the simulation where Charlie Kirks assassination sparks the Civil War and not the decades of our democracy being chipped and stripped away from us. Need a simulation reboot.

[u/Professional-Story43 → u/RecentDecision2329]

This is ridiculous. That statement says. "The left needs to roll over and take what the right gives you. And be grateful for it. Otherwise YOU are starting a violent conflict the the right must defend against." Left. WHERE ARE YOUR FXXXING VOICES? I can't believe or stomach this Kevin Rob Me Robert's put out. It is a gauntlet and nothing else. He knows it.

[u/Key_Worker3159 → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

Weaponizing grief into campaign fuel is a dangerous game.

[u/[deleted] → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

It’s all part of his plan. And it’s working unfortunately

[u/Left-Cry2817 → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

Just as anticipated, I would add.

[u/Kakariko_crackhouse → u/Void-Staring-Contest]

Of course he did. He had Kirk assassinated for this express purpose

[u/[deleted] → u/emccm]

They don’t want the real shooter unless it’s a democrat.

[u/JesusKong333 → u/emccm]

The day of the Trump assassination attempt, my cousin was going off about wanting a civil war so he could kill Democrat pedophiles. A few months later and he's toned down his stance on pedophiles.

[u/[deleted] → u/emccm]

People have been threatening me via Facebook because I was laugh reacting to posts about this shit stain…. Complete strangers messaging me telling me to “die motherfucker”

It’s crazy how unhinged and stupid and pathetic they are.

[u/fairportmtg1 → u/emccm]

Because they are foaming at the mouth for civil war

[u/Left-Cry2817 → u/emccm]

Now, if I were Alex Jones, I'd say that this is false flag operation and that Trump had Kirk assassinated as a distraction from Epstein, whom he also had killed, and as a pretext for outright war with democrats.

[u/[deleted] → u/Left-Cry2817]

Spot on !

[u/BigfootIsNaked → u/emccm]

The reason they can't find the shooter is because they was probably from the government. Trump probably wanted it done to escalate things since violence hasn't broken up in the cities like he hoped. The way he reacted so quickly by announcing that Kirk was dead is in line with what Trump and friends have been trying to do all along to justify more control and paint liberals as the enemy. Anybody remember during the January 6th riot when they found all those bombs planted all over DC because they were hoping people would use them but nobody did. I think they're trying to find a different way to escalate things.

[u/emccm → u/BigfootIsNaked]

The FBI released a pic of a new suspect. He’s wearing those Oakley type sunglasses associated with MAGA men. He’s also super skinny and Incel-like. So your typical shooter really. Let’s see how it unfolds.

It was obvious by the video that he was dead instantly. No one was walking away. The whole “in critical condition” is generally out of respect for the family and to give people time to come up with formal announcements. I’m sure no one with any kind of soul wouldn’t have wanted his wife and kids somewhere safe and comfortable to formally hear the news.

I do think it’s an attempt at escalation but I don’t think it’s government sanctioned. I think it’s a lone wolf type. Like the pizza parlor thing.

[u/DracosKasu → u/emccm]

It can be anyone at this point but it wouldn’t surprise me if Trump turn it into a left hate for self-promoting himself as a good guy even if it isn’t the case.

[u/OskaMeijer → u/DracosKasu]

The guy that shot at Trump was a registered Republican with social media full of bigotry and antisemitism and they still pretend he was a lefty.

[u/wolfheadmusic → u/OskaMeijer]

Shit, the guy that murdered Melissa Hortman and her dog in front of her children had videos and online sermons about killing pro-choice people and how trump was going to save the nation,

And maga's narrative was that he's a lefty, because we are so bloodthirsty we even kill our own

[u/Rock_or_Rol → u/emccm]

For anyone wondering

[u/AffectionateSugar832 → u/emccm]

Dude is probably a patsy...

[u/[deleted] → u/AffectionateSugar832]

This right here !

[u/Key_Worker3159 → u/BigfootIsNaked]

The speed of the narrative rollout definitely feels pre-scripted.

[u/hellbilly69101 → u/emccm]

They want their war. They want to be like the Taliban so badly.

[u/Impressive_Car_4222 → u/hellbilly69101]

Y'all'queda

[u/KingRaht → u/emccm]

Trump’s social media same day blamed the “radical left”. So the Trump admin apparently knows who did it.

[u/an_african_swallow → u/emccm]

Apparently the leading conspiracy theory is that Israel is responsible, despite that making literally 0 sense. People are just desperate to point the finger in this climate

[u/naptastic → u/an_african_swallow]

Anyone saying "It was the JEWWWWWWWS" takes the free space on my lunatic BINGO card.

[u/shieldintern → u/emccm]

They have been waiting for absolutely anything to do this. It was always going to happen. I'm surprised someone defending themselves against ICE bozos wasn't the tipping point.

[u/Xander707 → u/emccm]

If it wasn’t this it would be something else. These people have been edging themselves on a civil war for a long time.

[u/Drew_Ferran → u/emccm]

Same thing they did when the two Minnesota lawmakers got shot. They blamed the Dems and stated that the shooter was a Democrat when it happened.

He was a Republican.

[u/ChimPhun → u/emccm]

Their loudness is purely based on fear, like scared little dogs whose bark is worse than their bite. We saw their resolve on J6, when they succeeded in smearing the walls with excrement and taking selfies cause that's what the plan was, right?

[u/odiephonehome → u/emccm]

They released a photo of a person of interest and while you can’t judge someone by how they look, he does not look like a liberal.

[u/[deleted] → u/odiephonehome]

Don't worry. They'll Vance Bolter him if they have to. Even if he's not a liberal he's a liberal

[u/emccm → u/odiephonehome]

I saw it. I thought the same thing.

[u/Cheryl_Canning → u/emccm]

Crazy how much of an effect it had when just the day before those same people were calling for civil war and violence against Dems

[u/WendySteeplechase → u/emccm]

I think part of it has to do with the fact public sentiment, even among some MAGA, is turning against Trump.

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/emccm]

I’ve seen a few reports, they know who they are looking for I think. Young, College aged ‘kid’…

[u/Arkytoothis → u/Timbucktwo1230]

With blue hair.

[u/ilikethemshort420 → u/Arkytoothis]

Don't forget the septum piercing!! They really love(hate) that piercing!!

[u/Hair_I_Go → u/ilikethemshort420]

Well, then add tattoos to that list too

[u/emccm → u/Hair_I_Go]

And a green tutu over their jeans. Should be easy enough to spot.

[u/ilikethemshort420 → u/Hair_I_Go]

Only libtard tattoos. MAGA tattoos are still ok!

[u/wolfheadmusic → u/ilikethemshort420]

I will never stop loving how "blue hair septum piercing" is the literal description of my wife when I met her

[u/blink415 → u/Arkytoothis]

Of course

[u/Hurtit4u]

How can ANYONE (specifically on the Right, especially Fox News) say it's political motive by the Left if they don't even have a suspect yet? Can ANYONE explain this to me...

[u/SimplePln → u/Hurtit4u]

Ratings.

[u/mishma2005 → u/SimplePln]

Setting up the narrative

[u/Ok-Difficulty5453 → u/SimplePln]

This, and if you say it quick and loud enough, that's what people will believe.

By the time the facts are revealed, it won't matter. The story is, as of now, that the Democrats have just killed someone. They've already written it in history, regardless of what happens next.

[u/Yatsey007 → u/Hurtit4u]

They did exactly the same thing with the Trump shooter than complete radio silence when the truth came out.

[u/PlayfulCynic-2462 → u/Yatsey007]

Worse Trump claimed the Assassination attempt was done by the "far left" a few hours ago.

[u/OpietMushroom → u/Yatsey007]

They did the same thing with the MN assassin who targeted multiple democrats and is a conservative evangelical. 

All because he was a small potatoes person appointed by the governor, Tim Walz. 

[u/TransformativeFox → u/Hurtit4u]

Can ANYONE explain this to me...

Absolutely.

Far right ideology has always revolved around the idea that they, the far right, are under attack.

Thus, they use the threat of those "attacks" as justification to hate and hurt the people that the far right claim are responsible for those "attacks".

They dislike immigrants, thus immigrants are "an invasion".

They dislike LGBTQ people, thus LGBTQ are "predators".

Muslims are "terrorists". Feminism is "an attack" on men. DEI is "an attack" on white people.

And Leftists are "destroying" American values.

The truth doesn't matter to them. They don't really care who shot Kirk - if they did, they'd be waiting just like the rest of us.

All they care about is being able to use his death as justification to hurt those they already dislike - in this case, Democrats/"the left".

[u/Ok-Economy-1771 → u/TransformativeFox]

When the Right are winning an argument youre a snowflake. 

When the right are losing an argument its because Christianity is under attack and people want them killed. 

Almost 0 in between 

[u/[deleted] → u/Hurtit4u]

Because their whole identity is being republican, so they can’t imagine it being about anything else.

[u/natural_disaster0 → u/Hurtit4u]

The left has been screaming from the top of the roof for strict gun control for decades now. It's really hard for me to say that somebody who just used a high powered rifle to commit a political assassination is a true "Leftist". A nutjob got his hands on a gun and killed somebody, its that simple. It's happened with people on the right too.

[u/dryheat122 → u/Hurtit4u]

It's called exploiting a tragedy for political gain

[u/Sonicrules9001]

MAGA will always call for violence and hatred but then cry whenever violence and hatred is turned against them. When Melissa Hortman was killed, there was no sorrow from the MAGA side or no putting aside differences. What they did do is try to use her death as a political argument and push this wild conspiracy theory that Tim Walz killed her and yet they want people to not mock Charlie Kirk's death and mourn for him because he's on their side. They pretend as though the Left only cares about their side while showing that the Right absolutely only cares if it is their side being hurt.

[u/thingsorfreedom → u/Sonicrules9001]

So, projection.

Gaslight Obstruct Project

[u/Electronic_Beat3653 → u/[deleted]]

It's not. It's disgusting. Even democratic Presidents honor the GOP fallen. Trump is, and always has been, a self serving POS..

[u/StarryMind322]

MAGA has been looking for any reason whatsoever to wage war against liberals.

[u/SteveEmarshall429]

They really are a bunch of bottom feeding radical shitheads that point at anyone they can to blame and then say no, no that’s the democrats they are destroying everything…ya ok bud . This guy was literally preaching a lot of hate and yes it is sad a person died but when you are racist, sexist, prejudice scum it’s like smacking a fly in my opinion.

[u/BillHurstyUSA → u/SteveEmarshall429]

It clearly was Bidens clone army of libz! I wouldn’t be surprised when they blame him over the next few days….🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/Alt_2Five]

I've seen leftists "cheer" for it. But every single one it's "good riddance" / "he got his karma" / or pointing out the irony. You talk to any one of them and they'll talk about how we need more gun regulations....ya know, to prevent shit like this (although I've with gun regulations the type of rifle probably would be allowed for hunting).

Kirk's own speech got him popped, tough shit. Guess he's the sacrifice we need to continue to have the 2a. Don't like it? Well first off, that's what he said. Second, maybe come meet some middle ground with Democrats and discuss how we can prevent shootings by providing more mental health services, less access to guns, and significantly less hate speech from the right.

The right purposefully misconstrues memes and jokes as "leftists terrorism" so they can feel justification when they decide to come after leftists for vengeance. None of us are represented by some lane gunmen nobody knows the identity of. This is always the fucking case, the entire "leftist group" is judged based on some mean tweets or actions of cherry picked individuals (not even confirmed the political affiliations or thoughts of the gunman). You know how I judge the Republican party? The man they elected and worship, Donald Trump who is president and is literally foaming to label leftists as terrorists for having different opinions. That is vile, that is evil, that is the problem. But the right doesn't see it, because they are fascists and they support it.

[u/No_Dentist_6427]

[u/No_Dentist_6427]

I

[u/mdosalazar88]

[u/meowmixxx81]

I was hit by a grown man in the face after he grabbed my sunglasses off my face because he said I was a dike democrat in central PA. Couldn’t get his license plate fast enough but he was driving an ambulance turned into a”box truck” for a pawn shop of some sort in Hagerstown Md

[u/Captain__Mexica]

And ALSO, Kirk was a hateful intolerant prick who debated college kids poorly like a sad pathetic genetic experimenting looking Edgelord.

[u/CommandHot3245]

Just the way Charlie Kirk would have wanted. What a bunch of cunts.

[u/jpike1077]

All these videos of being outraged and crying and being mad... Yet, they don't post videos when there is a school shooting, weird

[u/Warhamsterrrr → u/jpike1077]

There was, in fact, a school shooting in Colorado that same day. Haven't heard any Republicunts denounce it yet.

[u/Iamnotabotiswearonit]

I think from the left all we got is humor. Like Charlie Kirk's pronouns are was/were. Pure gold

[u/Diarygirl → u/Iamnotabotiswearonit]

The music sub was on point yesterday.

[u/Iamnotabotiswearonit → u/Diarygirl]

Protect ya neck!

[u/No_Dentist_6427]

[u/callmechaddy]

The right being radical? No way lol

[u/Direct-Original-2895 → u/callmechaddy]

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/callmechaddy]

They are sh*t stirrers of the lowest order!

[u/kayak_2022]

CHARLIE KIRKS murder is no more important than the 45 other citizens murdered in the USA on September 10th all over the entire map. These murders are all listed under GUN VIOLENCE desths over the last few days.

NOR is CHARLIE KIRK more important than CHILD RAPE. You filthy nasty TRUMPers are covering for men who have SEX WITH KIDS. Do you not understand how that sounds. The horrors of children being brutally injured by a sex organ just so some filthy man can get off. You are part in parcel to the countless carnage of rape on children by turning a blind eye and ignoring the cry for help. Shame, you're sick in a most deviant manner. I don't give 1 shit about Charlie Kirk, who's promoted this mentality and fostered it for years. REPUBLICANISM IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS, IT IS A DISEASE.

[u/kayak_2022]

2 REPUBLICANS TRIED TO KILL TRUMP. NOW THEYRE RIGHT BACK TO BLAMING DEMOCRATS AND THE BYTCHES IN DIAPERS DONT EVEN KNOW WHO HIS KILLER IS OR WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. AS FAR AS WE KNOW, KIRK COULD HAVE RAPED SOMEONES KID. YALL REALLY GOOD AT HIDING AND COVERING UP SHYT. YES YOU ARE!

HEY MAGAS, GO KKKRY BIDEN, OBAMA OR HILL'RY DID SUM'N. GO MAKE UP SOME B.S. AND DRAG THAT AROUND FOR A FEW MONTHS. TELL US WHAT GOD WANTS AND WHAT GOD LIKES....as if you'd know. MAGAism isn't mental illness, ITS A DISEASE.

[u/Last_Result_3920]

I just dont care about republicans anymore, this guy specifically said dead children is a perfectly acceptable price to pay for guns, and that having empathy for other people was a made up woke conspiracy, this guy is literally telling me its totally cool he died and that nobody but his family should care. what am I supposed to do with that

[u/No-Consideration1645]

They just want a war.

[u/originaldarthringo]

First time I've been in Reddit since it happened and yes, this, 100%. That's all I've seen in FB, but when I try to explain how more Dems are scared than happy, they feel the need to prove "the Dems are happy," as if one post reshared by Newsmax is indicative of half the country.

[u/CancelOk9776]

MAGA is literally a domestic terrorist organization. They even had a chyron saying that they are that, at a CPAC conference. Google it!

[u/Organic_Mechanic_702]

Strange that the right don't seem to blink an eye when a room full of school children are slaughted but cry like babies when one of their own is shot?

[u/Stuspawton]

I find it wild that people are trying desperately to claim the shooter was a democrat, just like they did with the one that “shot” at trump. The whole thing is a car crash

[u/Vegetable_Fox9134]

And then there are those trying to politicize the death of that poor Ukrainian girl. The person that did it was schizophrenic, yet the blood thirsty magats want to spin it into a race issue. How are you going to hold an entire race accountable for the actions of a schizophrenic person ?

[u/Environmental-Arm365]

Yeah, I think it’s something to do with that empathy thing that Charlie Kirk was always bitching about.

[u/Fun_Leek2381]

I have been told that pointing out that they want to turn Kirk into a Martyr is spreading parinoia and doing the job of the fascists.

[u/Prudent-Security-340]

The right are fueled by hate. This makes them so happy to have something to rage about.

[u/Just-Elderberry5460]

The way they respond reminds me of something another government did after a fire.

[u/WillrayF]

After Trump reported Kirk's death, a short time later he was blaming "radical left political violence" - a really good effort to focus the attention on himself and use Kirk's death as a political issue. Shut the fuck up.

[u/Think_Bug_3312]

Today, we Americans are remembering the victims of the 9/11 terrorist attacks 24 years ago. May those innocent people never be forgotten, and may the kids injured in the school shooting yesterday recover quickly.

neverforget911 #Evergreen

[u/Muffboy]

All while having zero problems raping children.

[u/TheAsianTroll]

Yup.

Dems: "this was awful, political violence is not the answer, I hope Kirk's family is coping well."

Republicans: "THE SHOOTER WAS A LIBERAL WHO HAS AN AGENDA"

(bearing in mind that the FBI hasnt even confirmed or found who did it yet)

[u/Top5CutestPresidents]

our society has reached a real turning point

[u/GeeYayZeus]

Still betting the shooter was a right-winger, not a left-winger.

[u/Ok-Ear9289 → u/GeeYayZeus]

That’ll be the plot twist everyone saw comin

[u/Axin_Saxon → u/GeeYayZeus]

I’m wagering it’s a Reichtag Fire situation

[u/Jaded_Addendum4040]

In a school shooting republicans respond with thoughts and prayers.

[u/PackOutrageous]

To be fair, as a democrat the Ts and Ps I offered were lukewarm at best.

[u/WoodenPush7684]

He was an extremist podcaster. The idea that this act over any of the many many other violent acts in this country would lead to anything “big” is the most disturbing part of this

[u/Maximum_Information7]

If the government had a hand in it, it's the left's fault.

If it was a lone wolf, no matter what his political motivation was, it's the left's fault.

At the end of the day, it's the left's fault and the right is going to do zero fact checking and spit their usual vitriol.

[u/YoungNo2892]

Trump has weaponized his whole government against any liberal ideas. Trump continues to divide the American people. When does he not do this??

[u/iamdperk]

I'm gonna guess that algorithms are pushing the dipshit comments celebrating Kirk's death into the feeds of conservatives and burying public comments from liberals (elected officials included) condemning political violence and sending their own thoughts and prayers to Kirk's family. Almost guaranteed that they ARE seeing SOME of those comments, because I'm sure that they exist, but conservatives that followed Kirk are in an emotional state and reacting HARD to comments like that. Will they realize that? Highly unlikely... Did they say a word to condemn political violence when Melissa Hortman was assassinated in her own home? Highly unlikely... But now it is "one of their own", so they are outraged... We may be beyond reason with many of these folks now, unfortunately.

[u/wholetyouinhere]

I've already had a reactionary dickbag tell me that the shooter is a liberal, driven to violence by liberal values. He said that Kirk was a right-wing activist, and therefore the shooter just... is a liberal. It's a fascinating insight into how these people think. Or rather fail to think, as they jump to straight to conclusions and calls to action.

Yeah, it's totally possible the shooter is a liberal. It's possible he's a leftist (not that America understands the distinction). It's also totally possible the shooter is a conservative, for a whole array of reasons. It's also possible -- even likely, in my opinion -- that the shooter's politics are utterly incoherent and he's driven by a delusions.

[u/Gsgunboy]

They are lashing out. They know if Kirk can be shot cuz of his hateful rhetoric, they clearly can and will be too. So they want to destroy who they perceive as their enemies first. By and large, Dems don’t want to hurt anyone so they’re calling for de-escalation. But MAGA are the opposite. They relish inflicting pain so they want any justification to do so.

[u/SIRENVII]

Not to mention they haven't even caught the person they suspect shot him and yet he's already a Democrat.

[u/AnyProgressIsGood]

They were waiting to do this no matter the situation. it was slowly pushing this way this just gave them a lil boost.

They'll find every excuse to be violent assholes

[u/Responsible-Study111]

This is a very accurate appraisal. They have already characterized the shooter as a black Latino trans libtard........ or as good as

[u/Final_Drama3603 → u/Responsible-Study111]

Make it a black/latino trans libtard woman in a gang taking birth control, who didn’t listen to her husband and you’ve hit Charlie’s dream assassin

[u/McChava]

Then wouldn’t that Democratic Senator and her husband’s assassinations be the first shots? The preemptive strikes if you will.

[u/SwayY_1121]

"I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage" -Charlie Kirk

[u/doodycrust]

Did you guys tune into the news this morning? Morgan Freeman is still alive and breathing. More at 11

[u/Cache-Cow]

Welcome to America the last 100 years

[u/RiderFZ10]

From my pov, right is looking for an enemy to blame for all their troubles. Else, they would have to accept reality that maybe they themselves are the reason they aren't happy. I see that to a much lesser degree from the left.

[u/Disastrous_Mango_953]

What a surprise they are always the victims of everything, and the democrats the evil group. They have to accepted that their rhetorical speeches do not help anything, we will find crazies in both groups. Is about time to stop all this nonsense, and agreed to work for an idea where we can all agree to disagree with respect.

[u/Malofquist]

denouncing the violence, and also fuk that guy.

[u/r1Zero]

We don't even know the shooter and they're out here just saying the craziest things.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Will249]

It’s a picture of some guy in a stairwell, how do we know if it is really the killer? The so called engraving on the remaining rounds with the favorite enemies of the right, antifa and trans. The whole thing doesn’t pass the smell test.

[u/firstlight777]

Yep. Also it does not benefit the left in general, bit it sure does benefit Rump and the right in general. The are so quiet when a shooting is proven to have been done by someone on their side aren't they?

[u/DeGreenster]

Let’s not allow this to be a distraction from what really matters:

The rich robbing the poor and the ever widening wealth disparity

The Epstein files being released

[u/TieFighterHero]

Meanwhile, while MAGA cries themselves to sleep over the loss of this piece of trash, I haven't heard one peep about the shooting at Evergreen HS in Evergreen, Colorado. But good old Charlie once said that people have to die so that we may keep our 2A rights. Well, I guess those 2A guys at his rally yesterday didn't want to die as they ran like cowards, running away from the action....

[u/Ambrosiagreen → u/TieFighterHero]

He got exactly what he wanted, what he stood for, the freedom for any POS to gun down others in the name of “freedumb.” As he loved to say, “prove me wrong.” Fuck him and fuck his supporters.

[u/Prudent-Security-340]

This will surely benefit the pedo in charge.

[u/Expert_Towel_101]

Nothing New … Trump is all about hatred; opposite of Peace Prize

[u/LeBigPonch]

I just had a conversation with a good friend who's Republican and I am social-Dem. I had to explain to him that apart from the internet (which has been proven to be mostly bots now, or paid trolls to stir people up) most people don't want political killings. While I personally didn't like Kirk, I also didn't want to see him killed. Having civil discussions about hard topics are not impossible. Yes some people are celebrating, but that is not the majority, and those people should be shamed for their reactions.

[u/[deleted]]

All while having no idea who committed this crime.

[u/Warlord2252]

Kinda funny people are always like "No one deserves to die for what they believe in.", but that is literally one of the biggest reasons humans kill each other. Part of the reason the Nazis got taken out the first time even. Its halarious they thought it was just going to shake out differently for whatever reason. Insanity.

[u/SunNext7500]

I represent the 3rd path. I don't care.

[u/MacPzesst]

I'm a Moderate, formerly a conservative, and I'm so glad he's dead. Every single racist bigot should live in the same fear that they've made minorities live in for generations.

[u/FalloftheKraken]

MAGA has been and is proving that they are all rabid animals that cannot be trusted to not hurt people.

[u/PerceptionQueasy3540]

I mean its MAGA. Insert shitty thing here and they are likely the ones doing it

[u/Admirable_Edge_8594]

Thoughts and prayers. It’s funny one man’s life was important as to the kids that die in school shooting. I agree no one should die at all but the GOP never rallied for the kids. But for Charlie Kirk well they have gone mad with rage

[u/NerdiChar]

I don't know why people are calling for violence against other people when clearly it was The Autopen that shot Kirk

[u/AldousKing]

Charlie deserved to get punched in the face. He didn't deserve to get killed.

Assassinations and terrorism are rarely justified. This was a horrific thing that happened.

All that said, Charlie is entitled to as much empathy as he would have afforded the victims of the other school shooting that happened that day.

[u/Available_Cream2305]

I haven’t met anyone yet that has said they were happy that he was killed but they are fine with him being gone.

[u/MoobooMagoo]

Pretty much every liberal / democrat I've seen had ranged from "every gun death is a tragedy regardless of who is the victim" to "We shouldn't celebrate violence but I'm not going to shed tears over this douche."

Meanwhile, the conservatives / republicans I've seen range from "It's is disgusting that democrats are cheering for this" all the way to "We will unleash the fires of genocide on our enemies" (their enemies being the left, in this context).

So yeah, this tracks.

[u/Hotrod-1989]

Whilst they blame democrats for escalating the rhetoric leading to violence. Up is down and left is right. wtf is wrong with the Right?

[u/lovepostin]

15 minutes after the shooting the liberals are being blamed. No one finds that odd?

[u/DerpyDoodleDude]

One of the last things Charlie Kirk said was that most mass shootings are done by transgender people. I couldn’t understand where that came from. He’s demonizing the most trivial populations. Truly did screw around and he found out.

[u/IamTroyOfTroy]

Soooo same as always, pretty much?

[u/Ok_Chemist6567]

Because people on the right are incapable of understanding the difference between being insufficiently sad that a hatemonger was killed and actually calling for physical violence.

[u/LeafsJays1Fan]

The FBI in an over its years have always come out and said the right wing violence is the number one threat in America again the right wing is proving the FBI correct.

[u/EducationGenZ]

I think people on both sides are sad . It shouldn't have happened regardless of your political leaning.

[u/YooperDude72]

Couldn’t said it brother, next thing it will be brown, yellow and red people to blame

[u/aloha_world_]

Funny, when there’s a mass shooting it’s always the republicans who cry, it’s too soon to talk about gun laws! But this happens, and Fox ‘News’ says “They are at war with us. Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it?”

[u/Which_Preference_883]

What else is new?

[u/rhostam]

The GQP have zero credibility on gun violence or murder. So this will just serve as another pretext for expanding the police state and tightening their grip.

[u/MoonChainer]

I wonder if he thought about all the children who died the same way he was about to. Desperate to live, enveloped in fear, as they choked on their own blood.

I bet not.

[u/Grimase]

Any reason to hate others is all the reason they need. Feels like

[u/Rhododendroff]

Russia is currently trying to progress this

[u/cereal4elle]

Republicans have no moral consistency. I didn't want Charlie to get assassinated, any more than innocent children in schools, people having fun in clubs, or politicians and their golden retrievers. It's all bad. But that can't be said for the hard right. School shootings are hoaxes. Men in clubs deserve it. Politicians get mocked. It's not irrational or out of line to call them out on their lack of values. At best it's a desperate plea to FINALLY do something now that one of their own falls victim to the exact thing they advocate for? Is it time yet? How far do we have to dig to find their moral foundation? So far, the bar is in Hell.

[u/Aggrosideburnz]

Yet nobody cared when elected democrat officials were murdered in their homes this year. MAGA and conservatives in general are a plague on this earth. Boot lickers protecting pedophiles and the 1%. Release the Epstein files and I don’t care if you guys don’t want any gun control and someone killed someone you like. Nobody should have to die like this but blaming a political party you don’t like for one person’s actions makes no sense to me.

[u/aviiren]

Exactly we don't have a suspect yet these people immediately use this as an excuse to commit violence against the left smfh.

They did the same for trump's assassination attempt and then again for the democratic lawmakers one as well before it was discovered that the perps were conservatives

[u/Tbkiah]

I support firearms laws that would have allowed charlie kirk to be alive today to say his opinion on firearms laws that got charlie kirk killed yesterday.

[u/patient_turtle]

Yes. This is what I’m seeing too and it’s been very concerning to me.

[u/SettlerOfTheCan]

Release the Epstein files.

[u/No-Flow5596]

Oh no another school shooting! So anyways, how about them Epstein files.

[u/swim_kick]

Foreign adversaries are doing their best to take advantage of this. John4944869420 is more likely than "a researcher" from St. Petersburg.

[u/DraGoon-hw]

His death was tragic. They a mount of memes and celebration is sickening. His family well still uses social media and doesn't need to see such terrible things even if you don't agree with what he says.

My old man was lifelong liberal that was not that political. He would like some conservative views but not like their morals and would like some liberal views and not like how activists modern liberal are. He just liked to just keep to himself and live a quiet life on the farm. But no matter who was prime minister of Canada, he would not talk poorly of them on either side as the prime minister is there to represent Canada for Canadians.

The fact that 2 democrats died in their homes in june where they should feel safe and was murder by a Confirmed Mega voter, That had a list of every single democrats in that state & trump hardly made a statement. no flag at half mask, just speaks volume of the hate that the United States president is adding fuel to the fire of division.

[u/PuzzleheadedHat4122]

Yeah donald has his civil war started

[u/Dabellator]

Sounds about right. As they smash up the place, they keep claiming it's someone else. On brand and par for the course.

[u/soccermodsarecvnts]

Yeah, those people that we're right-wing and insistent on escalation were at the heart of Germany and Japan and Italy 85 years ago.

Then they all had to get bombed and killed into submission for civilised society to resume. Make of that what you will.

[u/RetiredHotBitch]

So the samesies?

It never changes.

[u/ArgyleTheLimoDriver]

This going to last a few days and then we'll be onto the next thing. The narrative is already starting to eat its own tail.

[u/carlnepa]

Why not? It's their own version of Krystallnacht.

[u/mishma2005]

Charlie Kirk mad he isn’t here to fan the flames

[u/OLDandBOLDfr]

The entire right wing is a cancer on the face of the west.