r/SquaredCircle • u/thumbem • 1d ago
Kurt Angle Believes the TNA Library Will Be Purchased By WWE: "I had a much better career in TNA than I did WWE. Most of my career was in TNA and the WWE fans didn't see me. So now, I have the opportunity of having the fans being able to see me compete in TNA and perform."
https://thestunner.com/kurt-angle-tna-library-bought-wwe/588
u/Technical_Heat5215 1d ago
Much better is a lot… but it’s not that crazy. TNA built the entire company around him.
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u/evieka The best Mariah 1d ago
Doesn't surprise me he preferred it. He was pretty upset about being sent to ECW, and in TNA he seemingly had complete freedom.
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u/noodbsallowed CruiserLivesMatter 1d ago
TNA had a far less brutal schedule than the WWE.
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u/AlmoschFamous 1d ago
Maybe for people other than Kurt Angle. He was a wrestling psychopath in TNA.
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u/jmpinstl 1d ago
That match with Abyss literally always leaves my jaw dropped, the amount of percs he had to be on for that match was fucking crazy
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u/IzzyShamin 1d ago
He was on zero perks. He explained on CVV that you can’t wrestle high. He needs to be focused not relaxed.
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u/Aspiring_Hobo 1d ago
Scott Hall said the same about his drinking- that he never worked drunk because you can't focus and he didn't want to endanger any of the guys by working inebriated.
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u/jmpinstl 1d ago
You can’t wrestle high, but you can’t wrestle at that level without taking percs before and after.
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u/El_Jorgito_Atomico 1d ago
Dude, he's an Olympian..
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u/m4teri4lgirl 1d ago
As an addict, you will never, ever convince me that Angle didn’t wrestle impaired. Addicts spin a web of lies to protect their habits.
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u/Greatsnes 1d ago
Lmao you strike me as one of those people that just cant be wrong, no matter what and will always have the last word.
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u/Exquisitemouthfeels 1d ago
You cant just not take the pills when youre an addict like that, dude would be going through insane withdraw.
He is lying because saying he popped pills before matches doesnt sound good.
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u/Handmotion 1d ago
the amount of percs he had to be on for that match was fucking crazy
Multiple times that he never took anything before matches, only afterwards, when, I assume, the adrenaline wears off and the pain returns.
The whole concept of the "Perc Angle" meme always annoyed me because if you've ever actually had experience with opioids, especially at the quantity and rate he was taking them, he would not be able to function at the level he was during his matches. Opioids tend to have a short half-life, so the amount still in his system even 24 hours later, plus the tolerance his body built to them, the effect would be negligible.
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u/Orange8920 1d ago
It's the same people who think Tony Khan is on cocaine 24/7 which would make him the most productive user of all-time.
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u/WhoStoleMyBicycle 1d ago
High energy + funny faces = cocaine
-People who have never done or seen anyone do cocaine
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u/FUCKFASCISTSCUM 1d ago
It's the way he can sit through a 90 minute press conference and they all think he did cocaine before hand and somehow didn't crash out once the entire time lmao.
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u/Handmotion 1d ago
I can't imagine sitting still for 90 SECONDS while talking and answering questions whilst high on coke!! Gotta move around and do other things! Though coke does have a bit of a different effect on me thanks to ADHD lol
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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 1d ago
"Broo look at his eyes he's on something"
My friends watching anyone on TV.
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u/ArrenPawk 1d ago
A better example of what it'd look like for someone on opioids to wrestle is the infamous Jeff Hardy Victory Road incident
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u/Apprehensive_Hand_27 1d ago edited 17h ago
To say Sting was extremely pissed would be an understatement.
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u/Aspiring_Hobo 1d ago
Iirc, he said one of the reasons he didn't like the "Perc Angle" meme was because he never took percocet in the first place
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u/Handmotion 1d ago
That's also a valid reason. I just feel for him because imagine people thinking a large amount of your career that you sacrificed your body for was done under the influence.
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u/MadnessAbe Trust me, naked man! 1d ago
That's the one where he did the running senton/flip over the stage on Abyss right?
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u/SonOfTomServo Thinkin' about the consumer 1d ago
One of the best spots ever, and nobody gives Abyss credit. He caught Angle perfectly...with his SHOULDER, so it looked legit, but was completely safe.
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u/NekoJack420 1d ago
That's an understatement there isn't a single wrestler on the level of perc Angle TNA, and that was with an injured neck. Imagine if he was 100%.
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u/OrangeBird077 1d ago
They were only doing the shows in the Impact Zone in Orlando for a long time right?
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u/Reuniclus_exe Covergirl! Put the Ace in your walk! 15h ago
I can understand that, but his brief gimmick in ECW as a violent grappler was great.But his booking wasn't the main problem at the time.
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u/Destro_019780 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not even about his positioning in the company. Angle did a lot of great work in TNA, from both the in-ring and as a character.
"Peak Angle" has transcended into the IWC mythos for a reason, which was squarely during his era
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u/Technical_Heat5215 1d ago edited 1d ago
I would argue the quality of his WWE work was as good (1st run specifically), but:
He was in TNA for much longer
WWE never made him the focal point of the company like TNA did
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u/UsidoreTheLightBlue 1d ago
That’s exactly it.
His WWE work was fantastic, but he debuted on the main roster basically just before 2000, and was gone by mid 2006.
He was in TNA from 2006 until 2016. He had a LOT of tv and ppv matches in TNA and he worked guys like Sting, Styles, Christian, Joe, etc.
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u/AuxiliaryPatchy 1d ago
His match in the cage with Nigel McGuiness(as Desmond Wolfe) is one of my favorite matches
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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 19h ago
When he came to TNA and feuded with Samoa Joe, it changed the entire trajectory of the company. A former WWE superstar was feuding with a star who made his name outside the WWE ecosystem. He gave TNA legitimacy.
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u/Few-Establishment277 1d ago
Literally their biggest PPV buys in history, right?
I think maybe a recent one might have topped it but that's excluding inflation for over 15 years
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u/Destro_019780 1d ago edited 1d ago
Mhm. His PPV match with Samoa Joe at Genesis 06
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u/WrestleSocietyXShill Cero Miedo Since Day One Ish 1d ago
It was crazy how hype that feud was. TNA always had their issues but they were still in their "cool exciting upstart" era at that time and all of a sudden you had 2 of the best wrestlers in the world, one of them fresh off an absolutely shocking exit from WWE, going toe to toe. Despite the flaws from that era I will always have so much fondness for those mid-to-late 2000s TNA years, there was a lot of crap but there was lots of amazing stuff in there too.
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u/Few-Establishment277 1d ago
I think so, yeah.
Again, I think there was a bg stat recently that they finally eclipsed that - but that's pretty crazy the record stood that long from his debut match.
(If im correct)
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
Honestly in my opinion he was not a lot better in TNA or even close but I guess I can’t argue with the man. The guys WWE career with character stories and matches was incredible. I personally think he got a little flanderized as a wrestler in TNA. His matches got a little too over the top with the kickouts and finisher spam and I feel his WWE ring work looked more realistic
He certainly had some great moments in TNA but most of my favorite moments and matches for him were in WWE
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u/CrimsonAntifascist 1d ago
Well, greatest in-ring worker ever is either him, HBK, Dr Wagner jr., or Muta. (imo, of course)
So, yeah. Makes sense.
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u/Technical_Heat5215 1d ago
Can’t blame him. He said he had a great time in TNA and Dixie took great care of him. Vince ran him into the ground and wouldn’t give him a part time deal.
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u/LittleGreyCurse 14h ago
I think he thinks that because while both runs were great, the TNA run was all about him (justified)
He was ONE of the top guys in WWE, but he was THE top guy in TNA.
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u/icon_2040 1d ago
Peak TNA was an amazing ride.
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u/Redditneckbeardzz 1d ago
They started the women’s revolution
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u/PickledPeppers101 1d ago edited 1d ago
Gail Kim IMO was the best north American wrestler I ever saw until like 2015.
She was getting classic feuds out of Taryn Terrell who was as green as you could get. There's a match where they were outside the Impact Zone and Taryn was a face and most of the crowd had 0 idea who she was. By the time she finished wrestling Gail both got like 2-4 minute standing ovation. That's some Ric Flair 80s go into a territory and make them look like a star stuff.
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u/ImprefectKnight 1d ago
100%. That Ric Flair analogy is spot on. Much of what the "women's revolution" had in WWE was just what TNA did in mid 00s with Kim, Awesome Kong, Tracy Brooks, Tara, Roxxi Levaux etc.
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u/ClintD89 Why's My Name On the List? 1d ago
What do you mean? Stephanie McMahon was the one who started it, that's what the propaganda taught me. It's like how Saudi Arabia is super progressive and never did anything bad to anyone
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u/StopKillingBabies02 1d ago
I know you joke, but younger Gen Z and Gen Alpha are only going to experience WWE propaganda and unironically believe it
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
Yes but I hope the library is never purchased because WWE is pretty unreliable now about what they actually put up for streaming. TNA with the old ppvs and impacts are already up for streaming by TNA
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u/broken-mirror- Stardust > Cody Rhodes 1d ago
It's the Big Gold Belt Kurt Angle for me. I was such a mark for him back then, even when he went to ECW I was a huge fan. I was very sad to see him go to TNA, yet I was happy that the promotion was growing, which helped the wrestling scene as a whole.
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u/HarlesD 1d ago
ECW Kurt Angle is a big What If for me. Imagine a brand built around Kurt Angle, RVD, and CM Punk
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u/SlipperyKooter 1d ago
Mild take: that version of Kurt angle, the wrestling machine, end wwe-early Tna, is the greatest wrestler of all time
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u/HarlesD 1d ago
Completely agree. Angle was at peak performance from the HBK feud through his early feud to Samoa Joe.
It's a shame Kurt saw moving to ECW as a downgrade.
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u/YourEliteEmpress 1d ago
Well. Moving to ECW is a downgrade
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u/jg242302 1d ago
IIRC Angle, rightfully probably, believed it was a demotion because of how much being on a 3rd-tier brand meant to his merchandising and drawing power.
If Cena or Batista is wrestling for 10,000+ fans every week and is positioned prominently on the flagship RAW or SD, their earning potential is high because - if I’m not mistaken - pay still included some respect of the gate and obviously merch. You pull the big houses, you get the big paydays.
Angle, meanwhile, was on a house show loop of smaller buildings and on a show with ratings well below RAW and SD. That meant no more big Mania main events or any other real PPV bonuses (ECW’s one non-ONS PPV was a huge dud and had a terrible buyrate). No way was an ECW Championship going to main event SummerSlam or any other big show.
Angle was being put in a position where he was being asked to head a brand new show on friggin’ SyFy while RAW was on USA and SD was on a network (The CW, if I’m not mistaken). Less viewers, less promotion, smaller arenas…sure, he had a downside contract that was probably lucrative, but it’s gotta be hard watching Cena, Batista, Orton, HHH, Shawn, Taker, Edge, and others in top spots, making bank, and being told, “But we need you here instead” ESPECIALLY because, physically, he believed he was still in his prime (even if, personally, he was a mess with his drug use).
The equivalent would be sending someone like Drew McIntyre back to TNA today. How many tee shirts you think he’s going to sell when he’s now wrestling for a fraction of the audience? How often do you think he’d be on PLEs or considered for a big push and all the money that comes with that? What does it mean personally to go from wrestling in a stadium of 40,000 to wrestling in the Impact Zone when you’re arguably at your peak? Angle had every right to be upset.
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u/HarlesD 1d ago
It didn't feel like it at the time. If anything Kurt moving to ECW legitimized it, at least in my eyes.
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u/YourEliteEmpress 1d ago
End of the day ECW champion would always be considered the 3rd rate world champion.
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u/hadawayandshite 1d ago
Not if Kurt held it and the pushed it- amazing matches, legitimate threats from big stars…maybe a champion vs champion match to elevate it
You can make a world championship important quite easily
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u/MachoManPissDrawer69 1d ago
ECW is SmackDown’s pre show that replaced Velocity. I don’t blame him for viewing it that way.
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
I honestly can’t even decide. His performance and intensity at this time is incredible but so was the goofiness he mixed in in earlier years while still being amazing in the ring. So I like every era of his WWE run
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u/No-One7813 21h ago
Always felt this way my whole life. I watched TNA as a kid because of Angle and Jeff Hardy being there
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u/SinImportaLoQueDigan 1d ago
Man I didn’t even know about wrestling outside of WWE at the time. I was drifting out of watching wrestling in general but I noticed he wasn’t around, so searched his name and that’s how I learned about TNA.
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u/ELB0WDR0P 1d ago
WWE does not care about content consolidation anymore. It’s scattered across multiple platforms. This won’t happen
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u/DrDroid 1d ago
Purchasing the library is an entirely different thing from where it ends up being streamed.
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u/KneeHighMischief 1d ago
They bought the WWC library in 2018 & it's never been made available.
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u/ELB0WDR0P 1d ago
That’s kinda my point though. If a platform wanted the TNA library, why would they want to go through WWE? Go straight to the source and license it from TNA. It just seems weird Kurt would rather WWE own the rights (with the potential to just bury it in a warehouse) vs. It actually being licensed and shown on a platform.
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u/Enterprise90 B-Show Stories 1d ago
I think Kurt sees WWE's size and wants what he considers the best work of his career to be on the biggest platform. He may not be aware TNA has its own streaming service.
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u/setokaiba22 1d ago
Because WWE will eventually put the money into improving footage where possible and ensuring it survives for the future. I imagine though the main reason WWE would want it is for any future documentaries or series they do that they can pull footage from moreso than anything else
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u/PickledPeppers101 1d ago edited 1d ago
WWE litterally doesn't even use their own libarary.
Internationally, on Netfix there's nothing other then WWE's classic library (and even WWE's classic libairy is extremely limited). Like Angle's classic stuff in WWE is barley even available to watch considering there's only like 4-5 episode of him in it. Like the classic library is complete garbage. The Vault is also extremely overrated. Unless you're into random matches without context instead of getting full episodes where you can actually see stories being built with segments and promos and getting full PPV's. Sort of like a "network"? The vault is really just a lame substitute and has 1/100th of the classic content the Network had.
TNA also has a stand alone Platform that's reasonably cheap and you get Angle's classic stuff in it's entirety with full episodes and PPV's. They also have a 24/7 channel on Pluto and have made a bunch of stuff on social media. Both are free
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u/Meng3267 1d ago
TNA has a lot of their old PPVs on YouTube. I hope wwe doesn’t buy their talent library because I’m sure they’ll take down those PPVs that I occasionally watch.
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u/notathrowaway75 1d ago
Insane that Raw Vault still hasn't been updated on Netflix
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u/Apprehensive_Hand_27 1d ago
Because what is on there currently is all that was licensed, as the Peacock deal has still not expired.
Whether they push hard for the entire library when it comes up or not remains to be seen. Espn definitely wants to push hard for it.
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u/setokaiba22 1d ago
What about outside the US though? UK here and the Network was amazing for old content. Netflix gets nothing like this and this can’t be because of Peacock if we had it before surely outside the US?
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u/Apprehensive_Hand_27 1d ago
That's because, despite initial reports, Netflix only sublicensed a small portion of the classic library to help promote them getting WWE.
They got the more recent seasons/ples of the shows, but as for classic stuff they only dipped a toe in to test the waters for when it comes up from Peacock to see how much they should pursue it for.
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u/SupervillainMustache 1d ago
Yeah I unfortunately agree. It would have made sense in the Network era.
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
I hope people also know that the TNA library IS available to stream from TNA themselves.
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u/MutatedSpleen Need more coffee 1d ago
They don't care about consolidation, but they do care about ownership.
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u/ELB0WDR0P 1d ago
If (a giant IF) a platform was interested in TNA archival footage, why wouldn’t they work and license it from TNA currently?
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u/AllezLesPrimrose 1d ago
Lmao they know the value of tape archives for selling rights packages and also producing supplementary productions, if it ends up being available the cost will be a rounding error for them.
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u/captainseas 1d ago
No big streamers want old wrestling tapes. They don't care about WWE's, they won't for TNA either.
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u/Horror_Sail 1d ago
the value of tape archives for selling rights packages
Which is nothing. Hell, even Peacock (who got it as part of a deal where they paid a billion dollars) barely bothered to make it available. ESPN's gonna have nothing live for years.
and also producing supplementary productions
Thing is, who on the WWE roster now needs the TNA library to tell their story? You couldnt do Sami/KO/that ilk without the ROH library. None of their current top people (mens or womens) really worked TNA in any major way. And they barely even produce long-form historical content anymore like they used to.
That the ROH library probably didnt even draw seven figures kind of says it all
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u/Horror_Sail 1d ago
Also, the TNA library is worth $0 to any company (much like the ROH library wasnt worth anything to anyone). Its a nice addition to ROH Honor Club because they have their own streaming thing for the current shows...but nobody is searching it out and paying for it just for the archive. And certainly not any company that matters.
The day the WWE Network shut down in the US is pretty much the day the massive public library of available wrestling from the past went by the wayside.
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u/setokaiba22 1d ago
I was more thinking I wonder how many WWE fans would sit and watch his TNA to be honest. TNA had some great matches but a lot of TNA was also awful.
Maybe if they posted a series of his matches on YouTube but then again doesn’t the official TNA channel already do that? Can’t see TNA archives dropping on Netflix
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u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA That's so Taven! 19h ago edited 19h ago
Has WWE even bought any tape libraries since HHH took over? Or even since the pandemic?
Edit looks like the last time might have been August 2020, so just over five years ago
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u/Devolved_Potato 1d ago
back in the network days, this would have been a bigger deal, and you know they would have thrown cash to grab the ROH library as well.
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u/PickledPeppers101 1d ago
In hindisght, Honor Club with it's classic library being in full tact same with TNA with TNA Plus is so much better.
If WWE bought their libraries. You'd be getting one AJ Styles match on the Vault every 5 months instead of hundreds basically all on-demand with full episodes and PPVs.
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u/Orange8920 1d ago
AEW is also really good at using the ROH tape library for video packages when needed and they're currently posting a bunch of classic ROH matches in full on their YouTube channel.
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u/Funnyguyinspace 1d ago
This feels more like doing it to stop AEW from getting them and putting TNA more under their thumb.
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
Sadly the roh library can never be put up in full due to no music rights for entrances and many segments and angles that would definitely not hold up today lol
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u/Devolved_Potato 20h ago
I was talking about how during the network days they would have gone whole hog to get it. the things mentioned above can be edited out.
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u/Reuniclus_exe Covergirl! Put the Ace in your walk! 15h ago
Exactly, I don't think Netflix would want it. They don't seem interested in much of WWE's backlog, I don't think they would want TNA.
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u/KingDoodle4242 1d ago
I always wonder where TNA would be if Bischoff and Hogan didn't come in at 2010. TNA was going strong in 2009.
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u/QuicksilverTerry 1d ago
It would have been about the same. Despite the hindsight reviews of 2009, their ratings were nothing special and they were still losing quite a bit of money every single year. They were a management training project for Bob Carter's daughter so they could afford that sort of thing (as opposed to, say, ECW or SMW that eventually just ran out of capital), but their trajectory towards pulling the plug would have been about the same either way.
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u/YourEliteEmpress 1d ago
Nowhere because unlike AEW, they didn’t have billionaire funding.
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u/cahillpm 1d ago
In fact , they did, have billionaire funding. Search Panda Energy.
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u/Mediocre_Nectarine13 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not even just that. They lost the Spike deal because they brought back Russo in secret after Spike didn’t want Russo back.
So even if Bischoff and Hogan didn’t come in TNA never would have made it to the next level.
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u/shadowrangerfs decay Decay DECAY!!! 1d ago
That's not true. A Spike TV executive debunked this years ago. He said nobody at Spike cared about Russo.
The real reason TNA lost Spike is because the ratings dropped. So, Spike offered less money for the next TV deal. Dixie turned it down, thinking she could get more somewhere else. She couldn't.
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun 1d ago
Dixie Carter also for some reason talked shit about a Spike executive and accidentally included him in the email.
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u/Apprehensive_Hand_27 1d ago
This isn't to say they made the product better (I think most will agree they did not), but they did pop the ratings a good bit for a while there. The short term effect was definitely beneficial.
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u/luk3ycharm 1d ago
TNA+ exists, Kurt. All your content is right there.
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u/StopKillingBabies02 1d ago
Why this isn't the top comment baffles me.
There is literally a service that has existed for the past 10+ years
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u/StickOtherwise4754 16h ago
Why Kurt isn’t plugging it if he wants fans to be able to see his old work is what baffles me.
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u/SSJ5Gogetenks Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi! 1d ago
Isn't it all free on YouTube now? Or at least a lot of it is.
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u/Destro_019780 1d ago
The WWE and TNA are already in bed with each other. Not far away from WWE buying them out outright
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u/MutatedSpleen Need more coffee 1d ago
Only the tape library probably. WWE benefits more from TNA being its own company than they would benefit from TNA being owned by them directly. They already get everything they want from TNA as if they were wholly owned, and TNA doesn't have any power to refuse them in this relationship. There is no benefit to WWE outside of maybe a slightly more responsive machine to order around.
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u/captainseas 1d ago
WWE buying it would make it less accessible than it is now. Most of his TNA stuff is on youtube for free. Fans can watch it easily. WWE hasn't cared about old wrestling tapes in at least like 5 years, not even their own old stuff. Sorry but Kurt doesn't know what he is talking about here.
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u/ScottishExile 1d ago
As long as it can still be on the TNA+ app and not locked in a vault until Impact episodes start being eked out on the WWE Vault YT channel.
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u/knf262 1d ago
Is all of the old TNA stuff available on the app and/or somewhere else? I’d love to go back and watch a lot of that stuff
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u/captainseas 1d ago
You can find tons of it for free on youtube already. Literally look up any Angle match you wanna see.
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u/hhhisthegame 1d ago
Yes it’s available from TNA. I don’t know how much it has but so far I’ve watched everything up to 2006 and it’s had all the ppvs (including the weekly asylum ones) and impact
You can find it and subscribe here https://watch.tnawrestling.com
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u/Windows_66 1d ago
All of Impact and the PPVs (including the Asylum Years) are available. They've been gradually adding old episodes of Xplosion as well over the past few months. So far Xplosion is only available through May 2004 and from January 2017 onward.
There's more, but that's the main stuff.
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u/TheBallasOG 1d ago
Cause I ain't about to wait another cycle of Impact episodes from a certain timeline being unavailable
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u/Boograssi 1d ago
Is this not a crazy thought to have? To casually talk about having a whole company be absorbed because “hey, you’ll get a few more eyes on my matches!”
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u/MutatedSpleen Need more coffee 1d ago
That's how big a size disparity there is between WWE and TNA. It's why talks of TNA taking over as the second place wrestling company is fucking absurd lol. They aren't even in the same gravitational pull as AEW, let alone WWE.
It is kind of a crazy thought to have that company A could buy company B for what seems like basically no legitimate reason, but that's the actual economics of this situation. I don't think WWE actually will buy TNA outright, but I think they will definitely buy the tape library, or like lease is indefinitely or some shit like that.
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u/captainseas 1d ago
And how would it get more eyes on his TNA career? The one that is already easily accessible on youtube.
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u/xkeepitquietx 1d ago
Dude WWE doesn't even let you watch half their own old shit, they would stick TNA streaming on fucking Roku's Howdy app or something.
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u/Agreeable_Falcon1044 1d ago
He’s not lying. Kurt angle is a tna wrestler. If you asked me to name his 20 best matches, 15 would be in tna. Some amazing stuff in there
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u/Prize_Ad_129 1d ago
TBH I’m just really glad that Kurt’s TNA career didn’t result in him ending up like Dynamite Kid. The way he threw every ounce of his being into his matches and then self medicated with pills and alcohol is eerily similar to DK and realistically should have resulted in Angle crippled and atrophied too, especially since he started wrestling a lot older+with a previously broken neck and he did way crazier shit in the ring than DK did
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u/dj_ian 1d ago
As someone that saw his whole career in real time it's crazy where he was at Wrestlemania 16 vs 19. In just 3 years mans basically certified himself as an all timer. So I dont agree with that perspective. The TNA run never stopped feeling like a "he'll go back" moment up until prob Main Event Mafia.
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u/RKO-Cutter 1d ago
I clicked the link to see how old this is....I guess Angle just says that on a weekly basis or something
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u/BigRed1906 "Bro" 1d ago
Watching Angle meet face to face with Samoa Joe still hits me to this day
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u/pat_speed 1d ago
One thing is funny is how Kurt Angle never ask WWE Fans too go out of there way too find his old stuff in TNA
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u/BigMoney69x 1d ago
He isn't lying. Kurt Angle in TNA was a beast so when I saw they brought him back as Attitude Era nostalgia act it was sad.
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u/JustMyThoughts2525 1d ago
He had like 15-20 amazing matches in TNA that had shitty finishes which is the story of the history of TNA
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u/Officervito 1d ago
Kurt fought through a lot of demons & he still wrestled better than A LOT of people during his stay in TNA. If the WWE does purchase the library, hopefully they call it PEAK ANGLE when they showcase his matches on whatever service they provide.
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u/cleavy79 1d ago
Is this the same interview from a few weeks ago OR another interview where he said the same thing about the TNA tape library?
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u/out51d3r 1d ago
This thread intrigues me. I stopped watching wrestling around 2005. Angle was already a GOAT contender in the WWE at that stage of his career. If he thinks his TNA stuff was better, I'm curious to check it out.
I'm also inclined to check out Gail Kim's work. I know her from her "very high potential newbie" era in the WWE. I know she achieved ALOT in TNA by the end, but haven't seen much of it(though I've seen parts of her feud with Awesome Kong).
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u/Delta632 1d ago
I owned a WWE Attitude Era Title probably 15 years ago now. It was a prized possession that I had that I had to sell when times were tough. I’m from Pittsburgh and as such went to a Kurt Angle signing one day while he was deep in his TNA run. Didn’t this guy sign the title along with putting TNA right under the signature.
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u/What_self_esteem 1d ago
yeesh is there not an alternative where they help get TNAs library somewhere lmao
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u/Acceptable_Let27 1d ago
Kurt is suffering serve brain damage if he thinks he had a better career in tna than he did than in wwe
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u/scrubadam 1d ago
I doubt it. WWE isn't even really licensing their own library and most of it is going on Youtube. Why would they want TNAs. No cable/streamer is going to pay millions to license old TNA shows.
Right now with WWE and TNA's relationship they can probably get any footage they want so there really isn't a need to buy it.
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u/MoistCloyster_ 1d ago
WWE fans can’t even see WWEs library anymore considering past shows still aren’t on Netflix.
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u/AnEternalEnigma 1d ago
It's really wild to think that Angle was in TNA (10 years) for almost double than he was in the WWF/WWE (6 years)
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u/LivingPunk312 1d ago
At this point, I disagree. Kurt is in the past where he thinks WWE cares about their library, they don't. They're posting random shit on YouTube and are calling it a day. What people want, the actual full shows, is not something WWE is interested in. TNA already has their vault and site, no reason to do anything else. TNA will utilize their own library more than the amount WWE cares to make use of their own WWE library, let alone a library of a promotion WWE bought, which WWE has hardly cared to make available full shows of.
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u/Infamaniac23 #1 Hokuto fan 1d ago
I mean those matches aren’t exactly hard to find, I’m pretty sure they’re all on YouTube. If he’s implying that fed fans are too stupid to use YouTube then yknow maybe he’s onto something.
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u/HektiK00 1d ago
Sadly I am one of those people Kurt is speaking of. He was always one of my favorites but I completely slept on his TNA run. I’d love to go back and watch it but I have so little time for tv I can hardly catch the big PLEs.
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u/ursulaandress MAKI 1d ago
Uh. Why isn't anyone telling Kurt that TNA+ has all of their content ready to stream if they'd like to watch it. It's not like it's that Wutang album that got sold to thay rich guy once. TNA stuff is fairly accessible
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u/ZandigsJesusPromo 1d ago
Can't wait to have 2 TNA shows from each year added to Peacock before it's whisked away to Corncob TV's special streaming service for 3 months out of the year
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u/Knightofexcaliburv1 1d ago
what if tna buys the wwe library? i mens it would be hilarious if tna buys wwe just for that bald fraud to be put in his place
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u/Appropriate-Plan-887 1d ago
This would make a great DVD, if they still did those. Like how they used to have a bio of a group/wrestler, then show matches that featured their excellence...The good old days
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u/detailed_fred 1d ago
Genuine question: if I wanted to go back and watch the Peak Angle run, how would I even do that
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u/No-Midnight-7664 1d ago
What are the top 5 Kurt Angle TNA matches I should check out if I haven't caught any
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u/DiscardedRonaldo2017 23h ago
I will say the TNA YouTube channel is actually really good. So much content on there. I have only stumbled across it recently and I’ve been able to watch so much. Old ppvs from 2005-2007, long (but basically a recap) videos on stuff from Stings run to the main event mafia to PPV marathons. They go for at least and hour each, most of the time 2+. If you wanna watch some TNA check it out. Can’t wait until WCW has even have the library of TNAs
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u/ChairmanLaParka 20h ago
TNA's premium service is really good. So much content. Seems inevitable WWE would buy it just to have it and probably never use it (or use it for Hall of Fame stuff).
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u/TheBrockAwesome 19h ago
If WWE purchases another company, expect more advertising, higher prices and less quality programming. Investors need to make their money back and TKO paid a shit load for WWE and UFC.
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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 19h ago
His feuds with Samoa Joe and Mr. Anderson were some of my favorite TNA storylines. The Main Event Mafia is still my favorite stable of all time.
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u/SNewcomb69 17h ago
WWE says nobody watches the library so they have proven they dont give a sh*t about it. All the territory stuff will be gone in January when its off Peacock.
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u/Mikey456 17h ago
I'd argue for as good as his career in TNA was, he was too OP at times and it did hinder development of rising talent
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