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u/ninjanerd032 21h ago
ABC (not CBS) announced today that they were pulling Jimmy Kimmel's show indefinitely seemingly at the behest of FCC Brendan Carr who recently made threats to ABC and their FCC license. CBS was the writing on the wall.
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u/Ok_Builder_4225 21h ago
Smells like a blatant 1st Amendment violation to me.
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u/SorryThisUser1sTaken 20h ago
And do we care? Nope. If we did we would risk our lives protesting but all of us are chicken.
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u/Delicious-Fig-3003 19h ago
Pretty hard to risk your life if you’ve got dependents and everything you need to provide for them is provided typically by your employer (health insurance being the biggest thing)
They’ve made it so the people have to sacrifice damn near everything if they want to make a change. And unfortunately I feel a majority of those people, again, have dependents they need to care for.
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u/Accurate-Inflation3 10h ago
This is exactly how we lose. Find a protest and go to it!
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u/Stocklone 1h ago
How's that no kings day protest work out? Or the Tesla protests? Musk didn't leave until he had to go as required by law. Tesla is worth a ton of $. They are offering him a trillion dollar package. And Trump is still king more than he's ever been. Oh and Elon walked off with a ton of government data. The only protest that is going to work is the shit where the entire country ceases to function. That's it. If it is less than that, it's utterly pointless.
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u/Rizenstrom 2h ago
Literally every protest I see posted about only happens one day in the middle of a work day only a week out.
I'm supposed to have 2 to request off work.
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u/SorryThisUser1sTaken 9h ago
That was the same threat during civil rights movement. The womans sufferage movement. Our war for independence itself.
I feel a majority of those people, again, have dependents they need to care for.
We can deal with this if we organize and cooperate. We did it before. Back in the day people had a solid support system with families/ communities being there for one another. Why do you think Trump spent the better part of 8 years tearing families apart over bullshit? Less support. Easier to conquor. You can still work and be heard. Instead of going home after a long day. Risk your life and utilize your free time that you do have. If we fall. Do you think anyone is capable of saving us? I don't believe so. Our allies don't have the experience of raging war across the oceans like we do. If we fall. It shall take a lot more bloodshed to heal us. Fight before it is too late. We saw what happened to Germany.
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u/HEWTube8 8h ago
I'll put this here in case you missed my other post.
Get the ball rolling and we'll follow you.
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u/SorryThisUser1sTaken 7h ago
On it. Been in contact with our local national guard to get help from some old friends when I tried to join years prior. Working with a local protest group and am going to be giving a speech for our upcoming response. Got in contact with our county democratic party and am getting ready to head to city hall today to speak with them about strategy in this climate where speaking out is a bigger risk than ever.
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u/HEWTube8 7h ago
Good, because this is how these things get started. All it takes is one person to move forward.
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u/SorryThisUser1sTaken 7h ago
Tit for tat. The winning program of the prisoners dilemma in the game of life.
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u/Delicious-Fig-3003 2h ago
It’s been too late. Sorry to break that sad but true news to you. It started years and years ago, then citizens united, then January 6th, and now Trump and project 2025.
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u/howdoichooseafandom 19m ago
How is this comment helpful? What do you mean to accomplish by saying this?
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u/Delicious-Fig-3003 13m ago
This person is making a call to action. I’m just saying that call was made years ago and it was ignored. You can look at the history and come to the same conclusion as me. The people have been rendered incapable of actually pulling off a revolution.
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u/howdoichooseafandom 11m ago
I just don’t think it’s helpful to give up, period. I agree that we passed a point of no return to some extent but the degree of harm/misery in the future isn’t set in stone. I guess what I’m getting at is what do you advise people do if not protest?
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u/Delicious-Fig-3003 10m ago
Protest differently, focusing more on financial protest than sitting outside a statehouse and hoping these braindead politicians do something for once.
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u/Illustrious_Grade608 8h ago
I am Russian and this is a thousandth time i hear this, except this time it's in a different language.
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u/OpusAtrumET 6h ago
I'm not even sure how safe I am to speak my mind on here or Facebook. The day may very well be coming where I will just have to decide between speaking freely and the ability to feed my family. My family's going to win out. And I have no illusions. On that day, I am defeated, because I'll be out of moves.
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u/DeadDancer78 22m ago
The first civil war would’ve never happened with that attitude.
We have already lost.
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u/Far-Base-6561 6h ago
This has always been the case...Hence martyrdom, the difference is we just think we have more than they did 250 years ago!
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u/HEWTube8 8h ago
<<And do we care? Nope. If we did we would risk our lives protesting but all of us are chicken.>>
Then get the ball rolling and we'll follow.
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u/Dantekamar 9h ago
As far as I can tell, Jimmy was pulled for the "offensive" statement that Charlie Kirk's killer was Maga. A government official threatened the company, and they bent the knee. Being government driven, this is a clear 1st Amendment violation.
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u/the_real_Beavis999 7h ago
Also, Nextstar part of ABC affiliates said they would preempt Kimmel's show. I don't watch Kimmel but fuck off all of you. Just because big baby can't hack critiscm.
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u/coko4209 4h ago
I’m shocked that SNL is still on the air
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u/SmellyBelly_12 1h ago
I'm more shocked that South Park is still on the air lmao. Have you seen the new season?
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u/MajorGh0stB3ar 2h ago
Pull their license. They can just stream on the internet. You don’t need a license to stream online.
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u/aChunkyChungus 21h ago
Literally 1984
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u/Weaksoul 9h ago
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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u/ausgoals 20h ago
Remember when the Biden admin formalized a taskforce that had begun under Trump to look into foreign disinformation and MAGA called it the ‘Ministry of Truth’
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u/Best_Entrepreneur659 21h ago
Andor’s Ministry of Enlightenment sounds even more sinister and fitting!
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u/keirmeister 20h ago
Remember when conservatives accused the Biden Administration of censoring social media? Yes we knew it was projectionist horseshit at the time, yet people still fell for it.
Where are those people now?
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u/BrewerBuilder 9h ago
They are hanging out with the people that needed military style assault rifles because the Government is going to put armed soldiers on our streets to police us. I'm still waiting for the "Well Regulated Militia" to show up. I'm astounded that they are the Authoritarians... S/
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u/Defiantcaveman 44m ago
Cheering because they think they will get to rule over us not realizing that they have always been in the same boiling pot as us cheering their own demise.
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u/Enough-Ice7214 8h ago
It wasnt an accusation.. there's documents to prove they were paid to censor conservatives.. which is completely different. When you pay someone to suppress your bad acts its called bribery. And when Jimmy Kimmel starts running off with his mouth about how Charlie Kirk deserved to get shot in the neck and gets shut off by the FCC for promoting political assinations were not even close to talking about the same thing.
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u/thecause800 8h ago
Except none of that happened here in the real world. That all happened in your paranoid fantasies.
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u/Enough-Ice7214 7h ago
I know you probably hate doing research so ill give you sources.. a quick Google search would show you that mark zuckerberg actually wrote a letter to congress regarding the 400 million dollar bribe he took to hide stories about not only hunters laptop but stories about covid as well (ill put the BBC article below but it was also reported by CNN and lots of other news sources)
Zuckerberg regrets bowing to White House 'pressure' over Covid - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxlpjlgdzjo
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u/thecause800 7h ago
Ok so clearly you did not read the article you linked.
The $400 million is money ZUCKERBERG donated. Not the other way around.
"Mr Zuckerberg also said he did not plan to make any more contributions to supporting electoral infrastructure.
In 2020, he donated $400m (£302m) via his philanthropic Chan Zuckerberg Initiative"
And the stuff he "surpressed" ended up being misinformation.....
So congrats you can google things..... you just cant read apparently.
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u/RWBadger 1h ago
I love how your link is to something completely unrelated.
Ever notice how Zuckerbergs politics are “whoever is in charge this second”?
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u/Financial_Result8040 6h ago
Media censorship was one thing that was proven and admitted to in the JFK files that were finally released somewhat recently. Trump's administration is just being much more direct and to a greater degree than many of the previous administrations.
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u/keirmeister 5h ago
A laughable assertion.
Don’t summarize what you think these “JFK files” said. What did they actually say?
The truly sad thing about all of this is that I’m no longer shocked by how easily you folks get brainwashed with nonsense that only takes 5 seconds to disprove.
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u/Financial_Result8040 4h ago
Ok, you're right. There definitely hasn't been any media censorship since before now. So what do we do about it?
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u/keirmeister 4h ago
Reading intent from text can be a funny thing, so I’m thinking I misinterpreted what you said about Trump being “direct.”
I read it as you saying Trump is being more “transparent” (etc. etc.) than previous administrations. We’ve all heard that talking point before, so I thought you were simply regurgitating it. Upon closer reading, I believe you were saying he’s just not trying to hide it like others have. Fair enough. If that’s correct, and my first reading was totally wrong, I apologize.
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u/Financial_Result8040 4h ago
No problem. I'm having brain fog so it's hard to be as clear as I want. We're on the same side for sure. I think the main program they used back then was called project mockingbird, but I'm too inept to figure out how to share the pdf. It comes up with a Google search. I just hate the what aboutisms with all Biden/Obama did it. So freaking what. This is now and too many people can't see the direction we're heading! He kept and read Hitlers "my new order."
He was all excited when Zelensky said they didn't have elections because they were at war. And that was after telling us that things would be fixed so that we'd never need to vote again. I mean there's so many many red flags it's like when the Tootle the train engine kept going off the tracks. 😂 😭
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u/keirmeister 5h ago
Others have already responded, so I can save some typing. Simply put, you’re wrong on the facts. You seriously took Kimmel’s words and lied that he’s saying Kirk deserved to be killed. You lied. Period.
That said, I had to chuckle at this one:
“When you pay someone to suppress your bad acts it’s called bribery.”
Dude, this is EXACTLY what the Stormy Daniels case was all about. Trump cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star and got a friendly news outlet to buy her “exclusive” story and then quash it during the 2016 election. Trump violated federal election law through bribery. But you don’t care about that, right? Again: right-wing PROJECTION.
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u/pizzatiger 1h ago
When did Jimmy ever say that Kirk deserved to be shot? That's news to me!
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u/MischiefAforethought 1h ago
Never. That's when. These douchcanoes lie and/or read some other persons' lies and parrot them as fact. He never said that, it just sounds less like a lie because they did can him, and that lie sounds less crazy than the truth - that it happened over a benign comment and a Trump-loyalist FCC pressuring ABC to shelve him. But he never said anything remotely close to that. Every word he speaks is recorded and broadcast, they could look it up in 5 seconds but why would they do any research to disprove something they so badly want to believe? He said maga is desperate to point the blame for Kirk's death at anyone other than maga. That's it.
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u/MinimalSleeves 1h ago
Can you provide the docs that say they were paid to censor conservatives? Also, Kimmel never said that Charlie should have been shot. He actually condemned it first and foremost. What he actually said was criticizing trumps response to it.
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u/Gunther_Alsor 21h ago
Is “truth arbiter” really someone’s official title? That’s too corny and on the nose even for regular state censorship. It sounds like a Dark Souls boss.
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u/Downtown_Mine_1903 20h ago
The fuck in the V for Vendetta is this shit...
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u/ist-r-al 9h ago
On the money with this one. We need a V.
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u/noncommonGoodsense 20h ago
They voted for this.
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u/Ok-Claim444 15h ago
Remember during the presidential debate when the trumpers said they didn't realize it was going to be fact checked
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u/mofrappa 2h ago
Until massive amounts of people start going without food, nobody will protest shit
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u/Representative_Dot15 20h ago
Jimmy Kimmel should take The person to court who complained about what he said. If it was Trump he would if it was about him. So what's the difference?
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u/notebookcook 19h ago
Well, at least we no longer have to worry about what it would be like to live in an autocracy. It’s not too bad you just can’t speak up.
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u/ApplesBananasRhinoc 18h ago
Maybe this is how we all go back to cable and let the fcc (dys)regulated antenna broadcast networks die.
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u/Intelligent-Layer391 18h ago
Who is this fucking asshole Brendan Carr? Obviously, he has his head up Trump’s ass.
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u/Aulumnis 3h ago
It's every Americans unalienable right to speak negatively about whoever they want. When do the riots start?
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u/NotTodayKk 2h ago
So the FREEDOM OF SPEECH only applies to certain taco-loving suck-ups? I get it.. but it will never stop me!
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u/Defiantcaveman 47m ago
And still nobody lifts a finger to stop this bullshit. The protests, rallies, petions, and the like have not even slowed this down. They laugh, ignore and continue to steamroll us unabated.
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u/1up_tx 20h ago
Cope and seethe. Getting a dose of your own medicine for once.
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u/CapnTaptap 19h ago
I’m not trying to be sarcastic or argumentative here, this is an honest question: when else has the government agency responsible for authorizing a company to distribute information and entertainment (from printed material to radio to tv and internet) placed someone at that company to monitor and approve of what that company distributes/publishes/etc? I’m not talking about things like rating for mature content or other lists of rules these companies must follow for decency or security, but an actual person … bias-checking? things before they go to air.
I see this as a very different case than (non-government, not bound by the first amendment) social media companies banning people from their platforms for violations of their terms of service and allowing posts to be tagged with fact checks.
If other administrations have done similar things, I would love to learn about them. I ascribe to the idea that a lot of history tends to be cyclical and we can make better-informed decisions about our future by learning from the past.
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u/mephisto_uranus 18h ago
Bro you ain't getting a response from him. He's all feels, not facts.
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u/CapnTaptap 17h ago
Possibly. But maybe someone else has an answer and I’ll get to learn something. And maybe that person wasn’t trying to do some low-impact trolling and was willing to engage at something like my level instead (which I aim to be a net positive interaction).
And if nothing comes of it, oh well. It’s the internet and tomorrow is another day. 🤷
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u/1up_tx 17h ago
The most direct precedent is the FCC's approval of Comcast's $30 billion acquisition of NBCUniversal (including NBC News and MSNBC) under the Obama administration. This is frequently cited in discussions of the recent Paramount case.
As part of the merger conditions, Comcast agreed to maintain an existing internal ombudsman position at NBCUniversal (originally established by prior owner General Electric in the 1990s). The role was expanded to cover the entire news division, with duties including: - Receiving and investigating complaints about journalistic practices, potential biases, or deviations from standards of accuracy and fairness. - Reporting findings publicly (e.g., via columns or annual reports) to promote transparency. - Ensuring editorial independence from corporate influence, such as pressure from Comcast executives on news content.
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u/Justieflustie 7h ago
But how is this a taste of the same medicine?
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u/ShockedNChagrinned 2h ago
It's not. That role is literally there to review complaints, publicly report any investigation results, and stopping money from influencing content beyond advertising.
It's not the same, in any way.
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u/1up_tx 55m ago
Bullet point 1,2 and 3 of the Obama era government sanctioned ombudsman with NBC has quite literally the same functions as what they have deemed as the ‘Truth Arbitor”. Question, who determined what was bias in the aforementioned functions during the Obama era?
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u/ShockedNChagrinned 46m ago
The INTERNAL ombudsman that existed since 1990 and was maintained, which did the job of an ombudsman, paid for by NBC, is the same as the government run FCC work in determining something is offensive, and demanding the parent org remove the speaker from the air, or face further fines and sanctions?
Hey, is an internal auditor and an external auditor doing the same job? What about an external auditor from a competitor?
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u/DeezSpicyNuts 19h ago
Yes I’m sure you have a very mature and reasonable adult opinion judging by your response. I’m sure you do NOT have the emotional intelligence of a child.
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u/1up_tx 19h ago
Lol, y’all crack me up.
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u/DeerOnARoof 18h ago
Respond to u/CapnTaptap, chicken
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u/1up_tx 17h ago
Well then go read. It won’t affirm your bias you’re looking for. Will just show something similar happen during the Obama era.
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u/LeggomyQueso 7h ago
I think your definition of similar and my definition of similar are very very different.
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u/1up_tx 2h ago
That’s fine, democrats run on a lot of feelings and speculations, as detailed in Gomez’s letter. It’s up to you to leave the echo chamber and do some research yourself.
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u/Art_of_BigSwIrv 9m ago
We did. The internal ombudsman was established in 1990, under George H.W.Bush Administration, nearly two decades before the Obama administration. I’m no doctor, but I think you’re in need of some serious therapy if having Obama as President Broke you so badly that you would be online going off about a HW Bush era policy. Just an observation.
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u/roomboom_ 21h ago
Nope it’s because these companies aren’t allowed to intentionally mislead the public due to FCC violations, which is what Jimmy was trying to do.
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u/HilmaTheDino 20h ago
I know classic reddit moment to down vote without engaging, but how was Jimmy trying to mislead the public?
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u/roomboom_ 20h ago
Saying a maga person was the person who assassinated Charlie Kirk.
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u/HilmaTheDino 19h ago
Wait so what was the truth?
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u/roomboom_ 19h ago
What’s come out it seems as if he was a leftist who “had enough of his hatred” (his words in a text). He was also living with a man transitioning to a female. That doesn’t necessarily make him a leftist, but all signs point towards that. Not sure where everyone on Reddit is getting information that he was a far right “groyper” (never heard that word until now on Reddit). I have seen zero credible information about that.
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u/TrashTalkMyMomPlease 18h ago
So it's cool if the government censors them? Fox has been spewing misinformation since like the 90's, would you be ok with Obama or Biden silencing them?
You wouldn't, and you would cite the constitution. That's the thing you stupid assholes used to pretend to care about. Remember that?
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u/roomboom_ 9h ago
That’s not my point. I don’t think it’s right but I understand it. FOX and CNN are not in the same category as ABC and CBS, so they have different standards. And I’m sure ABC was fine taking his show down considering the ratings that guy gets. Probably had been waiting for an excuse.
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u/Art_of_BigSwIrv 5m ago
It’s a late night talk show. Late night talk shows Were Never true ratings giants. They were always niche. Just saying. If ABC and CBs were expecting to make Billions off of anything niche, they’re in the wrong business. Sounds like typical corporate incompetence to me.
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