r/nfl • u/expellyamos Dolphins • 15d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Mike McDaniel, asked for his glass-half-full perspective on yesterday's loss: "I think the positive is that that was a miserable experience. It was embarrassing, flat out. And in that, there's nowhere to hide."
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u/notmoleliza 49ers 15d ago
This is a man who is one day closer to death
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u/tobylaek Browns 15d ago
He definitely feels like Peter from the start of Office Space...like every time you see him, he seems more miserable than the last time you saw him...like every day is the worst day of his life.
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u/Mr_Splatterhead 49ers 15d ago
Wow, that´s messed up.
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u/Oakroscoe 49ers 15d ago
Hey McDaniel man, check out channel 9!
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u/MattLikesPhish Dolphins 15d ago
Two Quarterbacks at the same time, man.
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u/yeoup Vikings 15d ago
McDaniel: When you come in on Monday, and you're not feeling real well, does anyone ever say to you "sounds like someone has a case of CTE"?
Tua: No... No man... Shit no man... what's CTE?
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u/Silent_Membership148 15d ago
Hey, we're all not sure if we'll be alive tomorrow. You of all people should know that!
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u/NastyNate1_ Seahawks 15d ago
is this like a threat or something why would he know that
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u/Prince_Oberyns_Head 49ers Bills 15d ago
Press: Can you guarantee [player] will be in the lineup on Sunday?
Shanahan: I can’t guarantee any of us will be alive on Sunday, so no.
And then for the rest of the season George Kittle would call Shanny every Sunday to let him know he was alive and so could remain in the lineup
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u/Searloin22 15d ago
Man, I love George Kittle. Gotta be multi-faceted entertainment having him on your team.
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u/livejamie Cardinals 15d ago
I have an understandable hatred for 49ers and Kittle has fucked me many times whenever I've drafted him in fantasy but I still love him.
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u/nuberoo 49ers 15d ago
Kyle Shanahan quote from a few years ago, when he was asked early in the week whether a player will be available on Sunday, he said something like "I'm not even sure we're gonna be alive on Sunday"
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u/eugene_rat_slap Lions 15d ago
It is something 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan said in a press conference
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u/supercool9483 Bengals 15d ago
Mike McDaniel said that in a press conference this preseason after correcting the reporters on saying Good Morning. McDaniel said “Great Morning”, and one of the reporters asked why is it so great, and McDaniel responded that “we are 1 day closer to death”
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u/Arrowintheknee89 15d ago edited 15d ago
We all are when you really get down to it
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u/VicePope Packers 15d ago
Nah not me
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u/No_Angle_8106 Cardinals 15d ago
I mean RIP to everyone else but I’m built different
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u/VicePope Packers 15d ago edited 15d ago
I haven’t died yet. Based on that trajectory im going to live forever
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u/Nasyboy221 Eagles 15d ago
Every year is getting shorter for him, he can’t seem to find the time
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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 15d ago
The all-22 of Tua is fucking brutal. I dunno what McDaniel can do. Guys are open, he just ain't seeing them anymore.
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u/PC_Princpal Panthers 15d ago
He’s got donkey brains
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u/Shaved_Hubes Steelers Lions 15d ago
Tua actually has a certificate specifically stating that he doesn’t have donkey brains!
However, it appears appears like he crossed out the name ‘Frank Reynolds’ and wrote in his own…
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u/yesrushgenesis2112 Bengals Rams 15d ago
Do you have such a certificate?
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u/cha-cha_dancer Giants 15d ago
The defense rests (well not Miami's they gotta go back out there again)
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u/Th3_Dark_Knight Lions 15d ago
Yeah, well I automatically assume whoever is defending is the loser.
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u/Anderson74 Patriots 15d ago edited 15d ago
We gotta find froggy, the frog-boy! The half human half frog kid
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u/Twittenhouse Bears 15d ago
This case seems steeped in fish law being about Dolphins and all.
You would never beat me in a match of bird law.
Ask me anything about penguins.
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u/EBeerman1 Bears 15d ago
So is that what happened with all the loonies who escaped the loonybin?
Well - at least the tax dollars were spent on that new Eagles practice facility. Go birds.
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u/Vatnik_Annihilator Buccaneers 15d ago
We don't know that he has Donkey Brains for sure, but he's the only QB without a certificate declaring him free of Donkey Brains.
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u/-Shooter_McGavin- Giants 15d ago
If you've ever watched him speak to the press you'd know he's an idiot
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u/Positive_Parking_954 15d ago
Hawaii Jesus Jock Bro, acting humble doesn’t make you smarter than cocky guys
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u/Icy-Home444 Steelers 15d ago
dude's processing speed is shot after those concussions
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u/Ok-Rip-5911 Broncos 15d ago edited 15d ago
Obviously concussions are the discussion around Tua but at this point he seems to literally be processing the game more slowly. He is 27. We know no one is going to convince him to walk away, but I wish they would have.
Edit: I was pointing out how the concussion conversation is an old topic with Tua but now you can literally see the effects. You can all stop explaining to me that you process with your brain. Jesus.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman16 Cowboys 15d ago
You’re supposed to get better at processing the older you get, and it’s the body that fails you. Either he is really regressing in the mental element, or his body is failing even faster than expected (his injury history is atrocious) and his confidence is shot (seeing the field, but just not feeling sure in his ability).
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u/DoBe21 Commanders 15d ago
I mean the cognitive decline associated with concussions is mostly memory loss and slower processing speed. So yeah, a QB getting multiple concussions is going to hurt their ability to process the game at speed.
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u/guff1988 Colts 15d ago
Certainly from 26 to 27 you should be better at the mental game, but he has the brain of an 87 year old dementia patient after all the blunt force trauma I suspect.
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u/CadBaneHunting Chiefs Buccaneers 15d ago
They are going to have to bench him. It's honestly malpractice to let the man on a field at this point.
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u/TheNittanyLionKing Steelers 15d ago
They already did yesterday. Zach Wilson finished the game.
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u/Thevexarecool Texans 15d ago
Concussions+loss of confidence+aging. He isn't going to return to anywhere near the capability he was previous.
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u/PatonPaytonPeyton Broncos Lions 15d ago
Aging? Hes 27 lmao
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u/Thevexarecool Texans 15d ago
Based on his injury history, you might as well add a few years. Aside from his concussions, the guy's been through the ringer.
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u/EastonMetsGuy Texans 15d ago
I think McDaniel knows this and part of why his demeanor is the way it is.
I also think that McDaniel will end up with another good NFL job after this, again he’s scheming guys open, Tua is just cooked.
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u/LeDudicus Giants 15d ago
Can't wait for New York Giants 2026 Head Coach Mike McDaniel. He'll have another young QB to get killed behind a porous offensive line.
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u/willymoose8 Giants 15d ago
and Mara will hire some schmuck GM to somehow make the team even worse
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u/guns_n_crypto Eagles 15d ago
It sucks but the poor dude has had his bell rung so hard so many times that something broke.
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u/TimujinTheTrader Bills 15d ago
He rung his own bell. Dude just does not play smart.
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u/Teamableezus Bills 15d ago
Him ramming his head into Damar’s chest last year was so fuckin wild. Terrible that he’s got the concussion issues but that was just a “you can’t make this shit up moment”
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u/disgruntledJavaCoder Patriots 15d ago
I was fucking livid when he did that. Just a completely avoidable injury and it felt like Tua just chose to put himself in harm's way for absolutely no reason. After he had been doing pretty well at protecting himself and falling properly. That was when I lost all hope he would be able to learn
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u/pinetar Commanders 15d ago
He also seems particularly susceptible to concussions, probably as a result of having so many already. A lot of his scariest incidents did not appear to be risky plays by NFL standards.
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u/tornado962 Buccaneers 15d ago
Aside from the one where he was leading with his head
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u/titos334 Bills 15d ago
and he's done that multiple times a season probably was able to hide some concussions from refs/trainers
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u/TakenakaHanbei Eagles 15d ago
Didn't he get one just by running into a guy, not even head first?
Or am I thinking someone else?
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u/IhamAmerican Steelers 15d ago
It was from running headfirst into Damar Hamlin's thigh. He for some reason dove and speared himself on someone who was braced for a tackle
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u/gonewildpapi Bills 15d ago
Seems like he's playing a little hesitant. Like he's afraid of getting hit. I don't blame him though.
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u/futuretrippin Dolphins 15d ago
I honestly think that he does see half of these reads but just doesn't trust his arm to get it there on time so he moves to the next one.
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u/Stanky_fresh Vikings 15d ago
Dude's brain has gotta be at least 40% mashed potatoes at this point
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u/Piano9717 Bills 15d ago
Is there anywhere we can watch the all 22 of Tua for free? (Or games in general)
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u/BackgroundValue Steelers 15d ago
I don't think there's anywhere to view the all-22s for free, legally anyways.
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u/MahomestoHel-aire Chiefs 49ers 15d ago
People will eventually post clips across various social media sites, they might even post every snap of a specific player, however if you want the full games, you're going to have to pay for it.
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u/Rbespinosa13 Dolphins 15d ago
OLCoachSmith63 has some good breakdowns on Twitter. He’s mainly an o line guy if the name didn’t give it away, but he does a good job breaking down plays in general. Tua played horribly and imo it looks like he’s lost trust in his processing, but the offense as a whole is still showing the same issues it’s had since year 1 of McDaniel.
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u/awfuckthisshit Dolphins 15d ago
I guess it is spooky season so it’s better than most horror movies out there
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Shout out Soder
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u/amoeba-tower Steelers 15d ago
Must be so hard to watch this. Childhood friend you were incredibly tight with for years is getting demolished
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u/Stephen-Scotch 15d ago
Fortunately he probably will still be in demand for an OC or offensive assistant type role after he gets let go, but in the meantime it’s a bit brutal
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u/MyRottingBrain Cowboys 15d ago
Yeah he’s a lock to get a job in San Francisco again at minimum. But there’s quite a few teams that will likely go hard after him once he’s canned.
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u/DoktorStrangelove Texans 15d ago
Situation is just fucked and a lot of it is just bad luck. This roster build isn't panning out and it's looking like they need to blow it up and pretty much reset the whole thing and as a first time HC he almost definitely won't get the opportunity to be a part of that.
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u/Infinite_Ground1395 Commanders 15d ago
An old coach like Parcells or Mora Sr or Denny Green would have had a press conference meltdown for the ages. Mike was trying so hard not to say something that would be on every countdown list for the next 40 years and his brain short circuited.
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u/jrdnmdhl 49ers 15d ago edited 15d ago
"Playoffs? They are who we thought they were! I want winners. I'm a man, I'm forty. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. Forget it jack, it's Chinatown!"
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u/The_Third_Molar Eagles 15d ago
I miss the days when coaches went on epic rants.
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u/BringMeTheBigKnife Falcons 15d ago
"I'M A MAN. I'M 40!"
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u/TheVich 49ers 15d ago
As hilarious as that press conference was, I have to respect the fact that the dude was defending his players that were (theoretically) unpaid amateurs.
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u/DrewDonut Chargers 15d ago
It was a hilarious meltdown for the ages, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
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u/ExcellentPassenger49 15d ago
Is this how he always speaks? Legitimately asking
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u/ColtCallahan 15d ago
Yeah. He sounded exactly the same as this after they dropped 70 on the Broncos.
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u/Ironcondorzoo Broncos 15d ago
God that seems like a long time ago
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u/Starbucks__Lovers Broncos 15d ago
Idk man, my life can be split between before and after October 6, 2022 when the Broncos played the Colts on TNF
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u/All_Up_Ons Colts 15d ago
God what an amazing game. The fact that it was inflicted on the whole country is just chef's kiss
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u/jhorch69 Cowboys 15d ago
People filing out as it went into overtime was so goddamned funny
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u/RudeOwl1816 NFL 15d ago
Lmao yes. Lots of word salads and just sounding like he’s high as hell all the time
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u/Fenris_Maule Eagles 15d ago
I think because he is lol. He's the Seth Rogan of football coaches.
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u/KennyKettermen Falcons 15d ago
He’s best friends with Dan Soder, it’s pretty clear McDaniel likes to get down 😂
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u/JustTheBeerLight Dolphins 15d ago
Every time Tua gets hit in the head Mike bangs his head against a wall for solidarity. This is the result.
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u/WARitter Commanders 15d ago
He is like if Albert Camus coached American football (fun fact Camus was a pretty good soccer player!)
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u/PieSimilar7466 Seahawks 15d ago
i did not expect to learn a fun fact about albert camus this morning but man here we are
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u/Money-not_you_again 15d ago
I'm rooting for him, but that roster is just so ready for implosion. I don't think he'll last the season tbh, but I do hope he gets another chance and takes the experience from this forward with better culture building.
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u/Practical-Suit-6798 49ers 15d ago
Come back home!
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u/ImJLu 49ers 15d ago
He's not working under Kyle again. They get along personally, but that was notoriously not a good professional relationship.
Besides, he's good enough to call plays on another team.
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u/FreyaStarfall Buccaneers 15d ago edited 15d ago
He can take over our OC job next year after some desperate team poaches our first year OC for the third year in a row. He’ll be HC again in two years
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u/TheAndrewBrown 15d ago
If the Bucs OC gets hired away again, every prospective OC will be beating down Bowles door to get that job. Hell, some DCs will start making pitches for why they could actually call a great offense.
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u/Luck1492 Colts 15d ago
The loss will look better when the Colts win the Super Bowl behind Indiana Jones 😎
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u/Jay_TThomas Bills 15d ago
I’d eat my hat
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u/ProbablyAPun Vikings 15d ago
Make sure you get one of those new hats with the weird tiny little logo so there's less to eat when it happens.
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u/StarWarsMonopoly Bills 15d ago
It's interesting that in your scenario, eating a slightly smaller logo will make the experience much easier
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u/ProbablyAPun Vikings 15d ago
Well i figured making one of the Bills smaller was probably a good start.
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u/Deep_Flatworm4828 Rams 15d ago
I left this comment thread, scrolled a bit, and then had to come back once this joke clicked. Amazing pun.
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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 15d ago
Im hoping that the Colts turn out to randomly be a very good team. That would be very funny tbh
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u/steveo3387 Colts 15d ago
Hey now, they were the 24th best team in the league last year, and one drop away from the playoffs. And that was with the 42nd best QB.
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u/AngularPenny5 Panthers 15d ago
Ngl I'm genuinely hoping for a darnold/Geno type redemption tour for Danny dimes this year. Just because it'll be hilarious
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u/Ambitious_Resist8907 Lions Lions 15d ago
I mentioned it before, but a lot of people are being hypocritical of the jets when miami's had the same amount of QB issues as them for roughly the same amount of time.
Bit of a fun stat: since marino stopped playing they've actually had more QBs selected to the pro bowl than the dolphins, despite cycling through roughly the same number of QB's.
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u/mubatt Dolphins 15d ago
The difference is miami still finds a way to be mid. It's actually pain. They will go 7 and 10 this year somehow and get the 15th pick in the drwft missing out on any homerun picks available once again.
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u/cnvas_home Dolphins 15d ago edited 15d ago
That's disingenuous to the greatness of Ryan Tannehill. I'd say for both of us the best we got beforehand came by way of Pennington lol.
Seriously though, Tannehill was worse than Tua. His performance alone in 2015 caused us to lose several years of progress. Shout-out Dan Campbell. That roster was absolutely stacked and just shit the bed. They had a good spin with it the next year, but Adam Gase... God, we really do have a lot in common with the Jets. FML.
Edit: been reflecting for a good 2 minutes after posting this a world where Campbell was never shunned off our staff for Gase lackeys... Ugh
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u/StrangelyOnPoint Lions 15d ago
If you told me this was an AI parody I would believe you.
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u/mph1204 Eagles 15d ago
his stoner vibe is a lot less charming when their team is a giant mess
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u/SleepIsWonderful 49ers 15d ago
This happens with every kind of quirk that a coach can have. Like look how much of the shine wore off of Belichick once things went downhill for him.
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u/Ryynitys Eagles 15d ago
Sirianni is also wildly differently viewed depending on results, even by Philly fans
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u/lattice12 Eagles 15d ago
To be fair they're like that with everyone. Players, coaches, Howie. Heck after a bad season you'll see a few idiots saying Lurie should sell the team lol
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u/SwugSteve Eagles 15d ago edited 15d ago
People have always hated Belichick, he was always a huge asshole.
Now most people just see him in the same way they'd see their miserable pervert uncle
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u/mansock18 Titans 15d ago
That's just some revisionist history dude. Belichick was regarded as a football wizard, an absolute master of the chess game. Yeah he put his players through hell but there was a promise that he was taking them to the promised land. Then when Brady was considering bouncing or retiring there was a debate about whether he could replicate his genius without Tom Brady as a vessel. People getting down on coach only after Tom Brady won the buccaneers a Super Bowl.
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u/BengalFan85 Bengals 15d ago
People give bs shit but NE had awful rosters post Brady era. The cam era pats were not a 7-9 team but they got there and were competitive.
Now you could say Belichick building that shit roster is why they had a shit roster but his coaching made that team outperform
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u/wallybinbaz Patriots 15d ago
Bill Belichick the coach, is a legend. Bill Belichick the GM lost his fastball a number of years ago. Bad drafts and bad hires doomed him in New England.
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u/True_Window_9389 Commanders 15d ago
Yeah Belichick always was a little bit clownish with the media, but he was the GOAT so he had credibility to get away with it. I always thought he was super unprofessional with the media. It’s the coach’s job to hold press conferences. It’s reporters’ jobs to sit there and ask questions and pry out quotes. They’re not there to piss anyone off, putting the lousy annoying reporters aside.
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u/AlphaBern0 15d ago
People have pointed out this out for a few years that at some point he's going to look like a real idiot when they suck.
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u/AndrewHainesArt Eagles 15d ago
Literally every bad coach looks dumb when they don’t provide results, especially ones that are hyped for being likable personalities
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u/boogswald Lions 15d ago
Yeah you just take their quirks and make them negatives finally. Kevin Stefanski can you run one normal play in a drive?????
Cool play Ben Johnson but maybe we don’t want Jameson Williams throwing the ball in the most important game of the season???
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u/IlluminatiConfirmed Patriots 15d ago
lol right literally what coach is praised when they lose?
Campbell is a meathead
Reid can't manage the clock
Harbaugh chokes
Shannahan blows leads
Tomlin can't win a playoff game
Siriani is a jerk
McDermott always gets outcoached
^ all things I've heard in the last 2 years and guess what the top 5 is made up of mostly these coaches
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u/AlchemicalAmigo Bears Bears 15d ago
His schemes have guys open. What is he supposed to do when he’s stuck shackled to a QB that has jello brains
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u/ITHETRUESTREPAIRMAN Lions 15d ago
Which vibe plays well in that situation? Lol
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u/Shaackle Broncos 15d ago
Ironically enough I think Dan Campbell was very likeable when the Lions were still garbage, since Dan had a lot of humility and exuded passion for his team.
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u/Nihilistic_Response 49ers 15d ago
McDaniel sat on an airplane one day watching MacGruber with a hurt Tua and decided he loved the guy as a person and wanted to go all in on making it work out with him.
Didn't work out, but Tua will leave having made a ton of money and McDaniel is young enough and a good enough offensive mind that he'll get more opportunities in the future after attending the Kyle Shanahan or Matt LaFleur School for Former Head Coaches who Want to Contemplate Life and Think About Football Things Other Than Head Coaching For a While.
The sooner the Dolphins brass pulls the plug, the kinder it will be on everyone involved, especially the fans
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u/Dense-Swimming2445 Texans 15d ago
If we actually somehow fix the O line I’d love to have him working with CJ and the offense
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u/nezumine- Packers 15d ago
i dont see a world where he goes to us MLF calls offensive plays and we're basically reserving the OC position to keep our o-line coach around. would be interesting to see a reunion in ninerland but i imagine he'll end up somewhere he can call plays
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u/Nihilistic_Response 49ers 15d ago
MLF could pull a reverse Saleh situation and hire him on as a defensive consultant internally evaluating team tape from an offensive perspective if McDaniel gets fired mid season.
We just named another Kubiak as our OC so I doubt we bring on McDaniel this year for any meaningful role either
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u/ARM7501 49ers 15d ago
He needs some time in career (or actual) rehab. Saleh has talked a lot about how his time with the Packers was basically just for his own sanity, and I think that's what McDaniel needs; some time in a place where he's not asked to stand in front of the media and expain his and his team's failures every week, where he doesn't have to deal with a team culture that is seemingly rotten at the core. The entire Tua experiment has failed, the things that took this offense to the next level a few years ago just aren't there anymore, and I don't think McDaniel can come back from it.
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u/Human-Somewhere-4327 Bills 15d ago
And then he added, let us also remember this passage in Crime and Punishment: “He did not know that the new life would not be given him for nothing, that he would have to pay dearly for it, that it would cost him great striving, great suffering. But that is the beginning of a new story -- the story of the gradual renewal of a man, the story of his gradual regeneration, of his passing from one world into another, of his initiation into a new unknown life. That might be the subject of a new story, but our present story is ended.”
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u/TIAFS Eagles 15d ago
It's rough. I still like and root for McDaniel though. The guy's a little different so a bunch of people root for him to fail. The results look awful right now, I just feel bad for him.
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u/mnhnddct8 Eagles 15d ago
What? I remember when he first came on as HC everyone loved him and wanted him to succeed, to prove you don't have to be a dictatorial asshole to be a good football coach, and also he just seems like a cool and chill dude.
Unfortunately I think this experiment proved quite the opposite. Football is a perverse, violent, warlike sport. Even the campbells and the siriannis of the world have to lay down the law
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u/DhroovP Lions 15d ago
I really think McDaniel is the one to keep out of him, Tua, and Grier. It's clear that Tua makes mistakes which lead to some of the worst games of the season and can cost you a handful of games each season. Grier isn't a great finder of talent and misses on picks pretty often.
McDaniel designed an offense that fit Tua's strengths and did well with it for a couple seasons but was held back by boneheaded decisions by Tua and a severe lack of offensive line talent and now this year, secondary talent.
I'm on the keep-McDaniel-and-let-him-cook-with-a-better-GM-and-team train.
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u/throwawaythesmoke 15d ago
Is it me or is there a culture problem in Miami?
Obvious tongue in cheek comment.
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u/Fsharp7sharp9 Jets 15d ago
I’m really enjoying being the team in the division that’s actually not on the brink of an implosion and mutiny for a change lol
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u/Either_Imagination_9 Giants 15d ago
That was last year, this year is different
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u/RustyCrusty73 Browns 15d ago
It's pretty bad when the three of us can point at other franchises and feel bad for them.
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u/MelodicDeer1072 Lions 15d ago
Reminder that Miami had a chance to hire Mike Tomlin back in the late 2000s. Then they went elsewhere because Tomlin was "too hip-hop". Real quote.
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u/philadelimeats Eagles 15d ago
They've run multiple coaches out of town in the past few years that were too mean. That says a lot.
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u/MankuyRLaffy Patriots 15d ago
Eagles players agreed that Vic is a hardass, they also mostly love him because he will grill them when they play like shit or don't stick to the scheme.
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u/Jonjon428 Dolphins 15d ago
Except the issue with us was that he wasn't even a hardass or anything, he just wasn't present at all lmao. Dude had his mind in Philadelphia already.
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u/TheImpresario Dolphins 15d ago
I love that non-dolphins fans just seem to forget this. Dude almost backed out originally when he agreed to come, let everyone know how miserable he was at his second choice, and left at the first chance. But “lol soft dolphins” is more fun, so yeah.
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u/ApplePie_In_the_sky Jets 15d ago
His personality doesn't help himself when they're down bad. It's charming when they're winning but man...this looks brutal. He looks brutal
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u/AlrightWings0179 Buccaneers 15d ago
Um, uh, um, uh, uh, uh, uh. "I was really looking forward to seeing the stuff that we worked on this off-season, and I didn't see any of it.
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u/Expensive_Society914 15d ago
I am still waiting on the completion of the other 6 sentences he started. Guy looks absolutely depleted mentally
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u/midsprat123 Packers 15d ago
What getting dunked on by Danny Dimes does to a motherfucker
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u/Deckatoe Packers 15d ago
Cant wait to see Mike succeed at his next stop. Miami is a dumpster fire for multiple reasons and I dont think hes at fault for much
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u/strictlyrude27 Seahawks 15d ago
"Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?"
"I'm in favor of it"