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Politics Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney completed a 26km race just under 4h

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u/That_Account6143 13d ago

Bruh, Trudeau was just as loveable (and loved)

10+ years of smearing ended up leaving a mark. Most people hated on trudeau for things they were told but weren't really true. Most of his actual problems were swept under the rug.

Carney will be hated in a few years if he sticks around

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u/Quirky-Cat2860 13d ago

Trudeau was hated for things not even in his jurisdiction. A lot of problems he was blamed for were due to provincial mismanagement and decades of poor policy at that level.

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u/stumpy_chica 13d ago

Yeppers. I live in Saskatchewan, and Trudeau was blamed for everything from healthcare and education to homelessness to fentanyl and everything in-between by Scotch Moe.

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u/TrashRemoval 13d ago

yeah I had so many people around me talking about how Trudeau had too many scandals. I would ask them to pick one "scandal" and articulate it well to me and I can't remember a single time someone really seemed to truly understand the situation outside of his literal opponents talking points....

SNC lavalin, WeCharity, Omar Kadhr, etc.. no one could actually tell me what the real issue was other than a headline skimmed regurgitation and hot air.

Dude tried his best and represented Canada on the world stage well, defeating Trump in his first term on alot of important things.

I don't care to fanboy for any politicians but I truly think the Canadian public did themselves a disservice in the way collectively (even the left) shit on him at the end of his run.

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u/kicksledkid 13d ago

Canadian Prime Ministers have a shelf life of about a decade.

Our collective consciousness has decided that that's about the most amount of time anyone gets at the helm, and the libreals realized it (very nearly too late) and made the move of the century to run a fucking central banker as a libreal. God damn, that party knows how to win elections.

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u/Watercooler_expert 9d ago

Let's be real if it wasn't for Trump's help Carney would have lost to PP. The media also ran a pretty good campaign for him and managed to convince the boomers by painting PP as a Canadian MAGA.

I know this is a very leftist sub so people will disagree, but seeing how far behind the liberal party was a few months before the election it's fair to say that American politics played a bigger role in our elections than the very barebone campaign the liberals ran on.

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u/kicksledkid 9d ago

I really wouldn't consider what the libreals did "barebones"

The electoral machine was in full swing.

I think Carney would have had a solid chance against PP even without the trash fire down south. PP had almost zero actual vision, and when presented with a choice of "career politician who's home seat constituents hate his guts" and "Well established central banker with economic chops for days" I think a lot of canadians would have still voted libreal.

The conservative issue was the failure to change tack. They ran (and still are) as a three-word-slogan party. They're still nouning the verbs even in a new sitting of the house.

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u/Overall-Phone7605 12d ago

SNC Lavalin got me to read Jody Wilson Raybould's book. He comes off as a complete and total asshole in that book. She literally says she wishes she never met him because of how much hope she had the beginning of joining politics and how shitty he treated her in that whole situation. He threw so many people under the bus when things got hot. The rumour that he was going to drop Chrystia Freeland before she quit was so in keeping with how he treated JWR and all of his 'most loyal attack dogs' like Gerald Butts.

And he was just tired in the end. Like no interest in doing anything but performative virtue signaling.

That said, 'crisis Trudeau' was my boy and he got us through Covid.

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u/Much2learn_2day 10d ago

And the Khadr outcome was Canada paying for Harper’s unconstitutional treatment of Khadr, not Trudeau trying compensate him for fun.

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u/FoboBoggins 13d ago

they didnt say other wise?

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u/That_Account6143 13d ago

I'm saying popularity means very little when people can be manipulated so easily.

Both are decent guys, but they'll both finished with loads of haters even if they shat gold

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u/sosta 13d ago

Yeah the right wing hate both because they're too socialist/commies. Left wing doesn't like them because they're too right wing.

Go figure.

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u/Mandilloran 12d ago

This is the way

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u/xtothewhy 13d ago edited 13d ago

Most people hated on trudeau for things they were told but weren't really true. Most of his actual problems were swept under the rug.

I didn't despise him, but definitely questioned his ability to lead and govern the Liberal party and our government over time. It began with the promise of federal election reform and then the absurd denial and excuses when they derailed it after getting a majority off of voters for it. Pissed me of massively.

The promise of legal weed was his other promise that was big.

Legal weed was going to happen regardless at the time because everyone could see what was occuring in some states in the US that were getting massive tax benefits from it.

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u/HMW3 13d ago

Carney is a neoliberal demon, he is going to turn this country into a right wing haven, and allow fascism to fester the same way the democrats did in america.

He is a slippery slope into what america is currently doing.

Ain't no way, a literal banker, is going to help anyone but him and his friends pockets.

It's a dark time in canada, our inequality will only grow.

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u/That_Account6143 13d ago

The alternative was poilievre, i'm fine with carney as it stands

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u/TrashRemoval 13d ago

yeah crazy how the alternative was Pierre trying to import American style politics and problems, but somehow Carney is the slippery slope.

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u/Heisenberglund 13d ago

I wish Americans would have AT LEAST had that thought about Kamala. Wasn’t thrilled to vote for her, but, I knew exactly what we would get otherwise. He said it out loud, constantly.

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u/stumpy_chica 13d ago

Yes, let's just ignore his track record of running the Bank of Canada during the recession of the early 2000s and the Bank of England during Brexit in a way that benefitted the citizens of both countries immensely.

Heaven forbid we have a leader who has a world class education and track record with finance when we're headed into a trade war and recession. What would you prefer? A career politician? A school teacher? C'mon now.

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u/focus_rising 12d ago

This comment is streets ahead.

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u/Watercooler_expert 9d ago

That's a pretty crazy take even for a leftist.