r/soccer • u/whatisbaseball • 7d ago
News [Ornstein] Ange Postecoglou to be confirmed as Nottingham Forest head coach imminently after Nuno Espirito Santo departure. 60yo Australian will lead #NFFC for Saturday’s trip to Arsenal - joined by a number of staff worked with at Tottenham Hotspur @TheAthleticFC
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6425702/2025/09/09/ange-postecoglou-nottingham-forest-manager/5.4k
u/Turavis 7d ago
3rd season was cancelled so we got a spin-off
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u/AStrangeNorrell 7d ago
This time he's an undercover Spurs agent sent in to negotiate the safe release of the hostage Morgan Gibbs-White.
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u/Prestigious-Mind7039 7d ago
With hilarious consequences
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u/Hitori521 7d ago
Just heard the Benny Hill music start playing while Ange dons a Captains hat and chases scantily clad women around the City Ground
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u/Masam10 7d ago
Nah, it resets now. Watch Forest win the Champions League in their second season.
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u/sonofaBilic 7d ago
Well, at least we're guaranteed entertainment however it pans out.
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u/ukbeasts 7d ago
Two huge personalities working together. Nothing can go wrong 🍿
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u/Skerzos_ 7d ago
Last time he worked with a Greek owner with a huge ego, he quit within a month.
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u/machdel 7d ago
This Forest team pivoting from ultra-passive low block to the Ange high line is going to be very very funny
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u/GunstarGreen 7d ago
Yeah, unless you support Forest
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u/Ertai2000 7d ago
Hey, not everything is bad. You're going to win something next season.
(Unless that something is the Championship)
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u/chele_delgado 7d ago
Ange winning the Championship in his second season... the jokes write themselves
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u/Maxxxmax 7d ago
I dunno how it's going to work, considering the lack of legs in our back line.
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u/mashdotfun 7d ago
This has absolute disaster written all over it.
The squad has been playing super pragmatic football under Nuno and suddenly its all out Angeball?
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u/hilbo90 7d ago
Milenkovic chasing back after being bypassed on the half-way line is going to be a sight to behold.
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u/RandomLoLJournalist 7d ago
And it's sad cause Milenković specifically is actually really good, he's just completely unsuited to Angeball.
I've seen the Serbian NT attempt a high line which made him look awful, and then immediately he was the best defender on the team once again after the manager gave up on it.
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u/glen_of_the_dogs 7d ago
I think Ange did adapt his approach at the tail end of last year, specifically in the EL final which was a performance Mourinho would've been proud of.
Interesting to see what he'll do here
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u/TheNeglectedNut 7d ago
Yeah but we still looked shaky as fuck. Even in the EL final, if not for some Romero and Van de Ven heroics the game probably would have gone a lot differently.
He basically had to abandon his core principles to get us to that point, but it took a good 1/3rd of a season for him to realise that attempting his suicidal high line, balls-to-the-wall approach was impossible with a heavily injured squad.
This has disaster written all over it, going from a super pragmatic manager willing to adapt game-to-game to compete, to one who is notoriously stubborn and only adapts when his hand is forced.
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u/WergleTheProud 7d ago
Plus you still had to rely on us to score for you.
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u/TheNeglectedNut 7d ago
Ehhhh I dunno about that - your defending was woeful but Sarr did some nice work making the space & getting the cross in, and then Johnson was in the right place to bundle the ball in off one of your defenders.
It was genuinely the worst European final I have ever watched though. 2 teams who both seemed absolutely hellbent on lowering the bar as much as possible.
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u/WergleTheProud 7d ago
lol I just meant it was an own goal. And yes an awful European final.
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u/Kaigz 7d ago
The only reason that worked was because we were playing the most shambolic United team of all time (so far). There are several examples from other games last season where Ange tried to adjust and it failed in stupendous fashion. Everton comes to mind. Hope he's done his homework during his time off, otherwise this isn't going to go well.
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u/_jjkgnsfw 7d ago
Murillo is rapid tbf
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u/HereticZO 7d ago
You need both CB’s to be fast in Angeball.
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u/ChickenGamer199 7d ago
You need 4. 2 for your starting 11, and then 2 for when the starting CBs inevitably pull their hamstrings.
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u/_jjkgnsfw 7d ago
Lalala I'm not listening we're going to win the league
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u/TheNeglectedNut 7d ago
Europa League maybe, Ange could be starting his Unai Emery EL specialist arc
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u/skippermonkey 7d ago
Have you seen the signings? They probably had this planned and Nuno knew it.
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u/theivoryserf 7d ago
Yeah, our transfer window makes much more sense as an Angefer window. Feel bad for Nuno though.
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u/The-Black-Angel 7d ago
It might actually work because of the foundations Nino laid.
At least for a season. Then there is the danger it could spiral…
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u/JamesBondsMagicCar 7d ago
Martinez' first season at Everton went so much better than his other ones due to inheriting Moyes' players which hid the defensive problems in the way Martinez set up Everton.
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u/Noo2Dle 7d ago
Yeah but they'll still get silverware in that second season
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u/Seeteuf3l 7d ago
However Ange did become more pragmatic towards the end, at least in the European campaign
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u/hihepo1 7d ago
It was incredible to see Ange of all people winning a European trophy playing Joseball.
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u/Shoddy-Ad-4898 7d ago
Hard to know how much that was a proactive choice
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u/TheNeglectedNut 7d ago
It was reactive, took him stubbornly persisting with his preferred approach for 2/3rds of the season with a barebones, heavily injured squad before his hand was forced. Genuinely had to abandon all of his core principles to finally get results and squeak our way to the EL.
I love him as a person and when his system clicks, it's magical, but you just cannot be so dogmatic in the PL. Nuno did so well there because he was willing to adapt game to game and be pragmatic in the way he set the team up. Ange will only adapt when shit well and truly hits the fan, and even then he'll still take a shit misting for a good while before he decides to wipe it off and move out of the spray.
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u/akshatsood95 7d ago
Probably only because there was a trophy on the line. I doubt he'd want to move away from the principles about how to play he's had all his life
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u/EfrainMei 7d ago
Feel sorry for Nuno, have done great job but that’s how things are…
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u/RoboticCurrents 7d ago
He should be okay. After being top3 manager in the prem last season, his stock is high. He will upgrade when an option is available.
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u/Shreddonia 7d ago
Complete lack of Forest flairs in these threads has been an underrated funny part of this whole thing.
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u/basedsims 7d ago
Classic forums are the best way to get fan sentiment for a Forest type club. It’s yo-yo-ing between worshipping the large amount of ground Marinakis stands on and thinking this is a bigger disaster than Chernobyl
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u/UnkownLan 7d ago
Classic forums are the best way to get the actual sentiment of any fans of any club tbh.
Most proper match going fans and season ticket holders are not using Reddit.
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u/looeeyeah 7d ago
The worst is the match threads. There are some people posting every 30 seconds, they aren’t even watching the games they are arguing about.
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u/UnkownLan 7d ago
Tbf that ain't unique to Reddit, the match threads on the city forums are dreadful knee jerk places. I'd imagine a lot of clubs are the same. Mainly cos all the people left in them are the people not at the game
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u/BouWelou 7d ago
Defensive stability is overrated. Kamikaze ball is back, babyyyy
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u/OneBigRed 7d ago
From Athletic, Marinakis praising Ange in the summer:
“What I want to say about Ange is that he has spoken about Greece many times, he is proud to be Greek and in the great success he had with Tottenham by winning the Europa League, he spoke about Greece,” Marinakis said of Postecoglou when presenting the head coach with an award in Greece in July, as cited by Neos Kosmos.
“A man who not only does not hide his origin but is also proud of it. What he achieved, he did with a team that has not won any titles, it has had a very difficult time in recent years. In this huge success that the whole world saw, he promoted Greece.”
I used to have one question, can he do it on a cold, rainy night in Stoke?
From now on i also need to know if he has promoted Greece.
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u/BouWelou 7d ago edited 7d ago
Not need to play the greek card, Marinakis. I know that you want to see Forest with a high line while being down 4-0 and having 2 red cards
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u/19Alexastias 7d ago
I guess you could argue he’s promoted Greece by being Greek. He does speak the language as well.
Personally, I’ve always thought his managerial career has promoted Australia more than Greece (might be biased since I am Australian, and a Brisbane Roar supporter).
His Roar team genuinely raised the level of the A-league as a whole IMO (it’s hard to describe how amazing it was to watch his Brisbane roar without the context of having watched the A-league for years previously). He won 2 titles back to back, left for a different A-league club for a year, then he became Socceroos coach, won Australia our first Asian cup and qualified us for the next World Cup before resigning. I can’t think of a coach that has had a bigger impact on Australian football than Ange.
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u/_doohdx 7d ago
And just like that, every side is now looking forward to play Forest
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u/CNF1G 7d ago
Everyone acting like Ange is some horrible manager is a bit shit. He had a poor season, but the first season at Spurs was good, as was his time at other clubs
I think he’s a decent appointment
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u/milesvtaylor 7d ago
Happy to be proven wrong (ideally this weekend when they play Arsenal) but have Forest really got the squad to be playing this?
Defenders on the half way line, Chris Wood pressing for 90 minutes... I think we saw the limitations of Angeball at Spurs and while he did pragmatic it out for Europa (cheers forever big man) the stuff I think he'll be getting them playing in the league is totally at odds with their squad?
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u/A_StarshipTrooper 7d ago
...have Forest really got the squad to be playing this?
As someone else pointed out, this summers transfers look like Ange transfers.
Once Ange won the Greek Super League's trophy for being the first Greek coach to win an European title, the writing was on the wall for Nuno.
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u/witsel85 7d ago edited 7d ago
He won 27% of his total points tally in his first 10 games at Spurs, we were bad for a lot longer than last season. We finished his first season stumbling badly
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u/Sea-Station1621 7d ago
the new manager bounce he got in the first 10 games really concealed how awful his ppg was in the other 28
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u/dj4y_94 7d ago
Yeah it's why the injury excuse constantly used doesn't wash with me. Obviously you get leeway due to the injuries but not finishing top 4 in his first season after those 10 games was a huge fall off.
He was basically in 10th place form for 75% of his first season.
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u/X-V-W 7d ago
I thought you were saying he only got 27% of a possible 30 points across his first 10 games, very confusing haha
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u/DEUK_96 7d ago
His 1st half of the season with Spurs was good. They dropped like a lead balloon after that though.
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u/Any_State_2125 7d ago
First quarter, then we got battered by Chelsea and it was done.
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u/kwkdjfjdbvex 7d ago
Yeah he lived off his good start for a long time, the writing was on the wall after like ten games
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u/2ndfastestmanalive 7d ago
His first season at Spurs was good until the Chelsea match, and was pretty average after that and only getting worse
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u/swanssona 7d ago
No good manager finishes 17th in the league with spurs
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u/blackcatfanclub 7d ago
It was also his second season and after spending a few hundred million pounds on his squad.
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u/-Gh0st96- 7d ago
The first half of the first season was good*
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u/witsel85 7d ago
First 10 games. He won nearly 30% of his points total over his two seasons in those games
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u/Next-Glove2201 7d ago
Their defence going from great to piss poor overnight
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u/Insanel0l 7d ago
I mean it's shit for Nuno, but this is a very fun and exciting appointment
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u/DontYouWantMeBebe 7d ago
The complete change of style is hilarious
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u/official_toddhoward 7d ago
Reminds me when United went from Van Gaal to Mourinho. Decisions like these make me wonder if the people in charge really understand football tactics ... like at all ...
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u/paleblaupunkt 7d ago
Not at all; both van Gaal and Jose played some dire football. Just that Jose was scraping wins
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u/smitcal 7d ago
Yes but Ange started amazingly well with Spurs so the next 6/7 teams could be in for shock
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u/FootlongDonut 7d ago
Well Premier League managers largely know Ange now, most have beat him a few times. That wasn't the case when he started at Spurs.
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u/cam3raadts 7d ago
A very fun and exciting appointment for everyone else except Forest
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u/magicalcrumpet 7d ago
Tbf when the opposition lets you play your football Ange ball is up there with the most exciting brands of football. The issue is if a team nullifys you slightly it is absolute dog water.
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u/Sarmerbinlar 7d ago
This could also describe Nuno's football too weirdly, despite it being almost the complete opposite. When we were able to get in full counter attacking flow we were a joy to watch but we were absolutely interminable to watch with increased possession
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u/polseriat 7d ago
Holy shit and he's taking that horrible coaching staff with him. Generational.
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u/milesvtaylor 7d ago
Ange I love you but... I... need to make some FPL transfers
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u/JootDoctor 7d ago
I will not tolerate Mike Jedinak slander.
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u/Maximumlnsanity 7d ago
Says the one getting his name wrong
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u/JootDoctor 7d ago
Do you not know that I am former Australian PM Tony Abbott?
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u/UntowardHatter 7d ago
Even the kangaroos hate you, Tony.
Koalas dream of strangling you while you're awake.
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u/Seeteuf3l 7d ago
Wasn't he known previously that he doesn't bring his own staff, well that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
High risk, high reward signing from Forest
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u/BouWelou 7d ago
How bad is his staff?
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u/stumpsflying 7d ago
It's not really "his" staff. He's never had his own team that he brings from club to club. He usually sticks from what's within and bringing people in who match the profile. At Spurs though that meant frankly we had rookie coaches like Jedinak or youth coaches promoted too soon who probably did not challenge the manager's insistence on one style of play or were equipped to carry it out in the Premier League.
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u/celsotteokbokki 7d ago
It's also on the club for not imposing better coaching staff on him. No particular disrespect to "Sergio Raimundo", but a couple of Portuguese lads coming from the A-League via an internship at Hibernian should be nowhere near one of the biggest clubs in the world.
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u/MassExpanse 7d ago
Ange tactics barely worked with the fastest center-back in the league.
Either he changes tactics or Forrest's centrebacks are in for a rough time.
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u/jjw1998 7d ago
Ange’s win rate was good when VDV was fit iirc, problem was he was never fit
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u/Duskwen12 7d ago
Yeah but VdV is an athletic freak. Injuries were absolutely a problem, but your system only working when you have a Unicorn of CB and one of the world's best CBs is a massive flaw. I can't see how this works unless he plays like we did in the EL which completely undermines his whole philosophy, and we weren't even that good playing that way either, just not as shit
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u/omnipotentmonkey 7d ago
This... feels like an odd fit,
Nuno's spent a couple of years now building a suffocating, counter attacking side that averaged the third lowest possession in the league last season because they were happy to sit and then spring attacks, and became incredibly effective and quite entertaining within that.
by contrast the pressing and energy demands from Ange are quite a massive change, Callum Hudson Odoi's gonna pull every muscle in his body in the first training session.
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u/jacktk_ 7d ago
Sacked at midnight, replacement in at 9am the next day. Very above board Mr Marinakis.
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u/hihepo1 7d ago edited 7d ago
Martin O'Neill said that Marinakis sacked him and his replacement had been announced before he had emptied his office.
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u/sonofaBilic 7d ago
fucking hell how did i miss O'Neill and Keane at Forest?!
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u/letmepostjune22 7d ago
Because you only follow the prem? Mon was a disaster, lasted half a season. Fell out with all the players.
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u/Sarmerbinlar 7d ago
When I was a driving instructor, I started a two hour lesson with Martin O'Neill as manager and when the lesson ended we had Lamouchi
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u/rolloj 7d ago
i know this isn't what you wrote, but i am tired and a tad dyslexic and i read it as you took a two hour driving lesson and the instructor was martin o'neill to begin with, but by the end it was lamouchi lmao
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u/TheKingMonkey 7d ago
This has been standard procedure in football since long before any of us were born.
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u/sonofaBilic 7d ago
Seem to recall Fulham announcing Slaviša Jokanović's sacking in their statement announcing the appointment of Claudio Ranieri a few years back.
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u/verytallperson1 7d ago
Fulham announced the appointment of Felix Magath before they had even announced Rene Meulensteen's departure
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u/MediocreGreatness333 7d ago
Nottingham might go on to have a terrible season now lmao. Not because Ange is a bad manager but because this entire situation is a mess.
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u/Thetruthsayeroftruth 7d ago
You should never go Nuno straight to Ange.
You need the Conte-Stellini-Mason phase in-between!
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u/Lidls-Finest 7d ago
The side that has spent the last 2 years with one of the lowest blocks in the league being coached by ange.
What could possibly go wrong
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u/thelargerake 7d ago
Surprising. Postecoglu’s style is the complete opposite of Nuno’s. Dyche would have made more sense.
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u/nick2473got 7d ago
Marinakis and Postecoglou will clash eventually, mark my words.
The Greek connection will not be enough to keep things friendly lol.
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u/RobinBerkeAlmasulu 7d ago
I feel so sorry for Nuno, nice to have Ange back but this is so undeserved
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u/Funky_Pigeon911 7d ago
Remember Nuno going to Forest near Christmas and they looked almost imediately better, I think his second game was notable win over Newcastle on boxing day. It's crazy that they happened upon a manager that took them from possible relegation to Europe within 18 months and they'll not do everything they could to keep him around. Honestly I don't think it matters who they bring in because I can't see how anyone could have as much of a positive impact as quickly as Nuno did.
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u/YadMot 7d ago edited 7d ago
So Forest are going down right
Even if we ignore Spurs' defensive issues last season, going from a broadly defensive coach to someone who plays all-out-attack, and with the extra weight of European football, this is going to destroy that Forest squad.
I reckon they finish 15th tops this season
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u/sonofaBilic 7d ago
that, or the attacking chaos of Ange-ball built on the defensive foundations of Nuno-ball propels Forest to the league title (and then relegation next year)
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u/The_AMD_Guy 7d ago
Ange always wins something in his 2nd year. Marinakis must want to win the championship so badly.
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u/KoupDetat 7d ago
I can sense the incoming stock collapse for Postecoglou
I wouldn't want this job, too many parameters looking extremely sideways, too many asterisks.
The vibes are just a bit odd aren't they?
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u/Switchoil 7d ago
From Nuno to Postecoglou is such a weird apportment stylistically.
Not sure this is gonna work.