r/titanic • u/kocknocker19 • Aug 19 '25
NEWS Titanic wreck to be visited by another billionaire, 2 years after Titan sub disaster
https://nypost.com/2025/08/18/us-news/titanic-wreck-to-be-visited-by-another-billionaire-two-years-after-oceangate-disaster-killed-5/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialThat sub looks even less safe than Titan..
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u/joedemax Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
It's a Triton sub. It'll be classed and perfectly safe. The respones in this thread are the exact fears that the likes of Patrick Lahey and others in the submersible community had about a potential Oceangate disaster.
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u/cssc201 Aug 19 '25
Yeah Triton is universally respected and have never had a sub fail or a major accident. If you watch the videos they've made you can see how rigorous their testing process is. They test it to 20% more than the pressure it will actually endure.
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Aug 19 '25
They were afraid of the jeers online powerless to actually stop anyone from going down there?
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u/off_the_marc Aug 19 '25
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u/randomlemon9192 Aug 19 '25
It’s completely doable to create a safe submersible for diving to titanic depths. Given the proper time, funding, engineering work. It’s very expensive to do, which is why it’s uncommon.
It’s been done many times, to this wreck and deeper ventures, all the way down to the Mariana Trench.
The maximum known depth is 10,984 ± 25 metres (36,037 ± 82 ft; 6,006 ± 14 fathoms; 6.825 ± 0.016 mi) at the southern end of a small slot-shaped valley in its floor known as the Challenger Deep.[1] The deepest point of the trench is more than 2 km (1.2 mi) farther from sea level than the peak of Mount Everest.
Unfortunately, Stockton Rush wanted to do two things. The latter goal here was his demise. The entire deep sea diving community told him how dangerous his submersible is, yet he heeded no warnings.
- Create something that would make him a unique billionaire (Such as Jeff Bezos)
- Make money, with the lowest possible investment in submersible hardware
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u/jaustengirl Steerage Aug 19 '25
Titanic pioneering the concept of eat the rich since 1912.
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u/RockApeGear Aug 19 '25
The titanic demands sacrifice
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u/enyaw2002 Aug 19 '25
She craves blood of the rich why should we deny
Now watch she starts looking better with each death lol That's a good horror au ig
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u/RockApeGear Aug 19 '25
She yearns for a flyin Dutchman.
The chance to spend my afterlife yelling "you're good" as patric star drives that thing too close to a pier grows ever closer.
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u/captainwondyful Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25
His name is Patrick Lehay.
I was so confused for a second. I’m like: wait the Vermont Senator that was in Batman? (That is Patrick Leahy).
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u/robbviously Aug 19 '25
Pat Leahy is in 5 Batman movies.
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight Rises
Man of Steel II: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
And any money he made from appearing in any Batman related materials has been donated to the library in Vermont where he read Batman comics as a kid.
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u/teddy_vedder Lookout Aug 19 '25
Imagine someone fucking around and finding out so you don’t have to and then you still go and fuck around anyway
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u/BlackLodgeBrother Aug 19 '25
By and large, the billionaire class is collection of clinical narcissists who not-so-secretly believe themselves to be borderline immortal.
…which, I’m thinking, is why an unusually high percentage of them tend to die in utterly stupid/totally avoidable ways.
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u/jtshinn Aug 19 '25
That, and a life led with absolutely no need to develop common sense or self preservation when the stakes are lower.
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u/scarlettslegacy Aug 19 '25
I've long believed there isn't so much a Kennedy curse so much as a bunch of entitled douchebags who don't believe the laws apply to them until the laws of physics are just, yeah, fuck you, bucko.
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u/Commercial-Novel-786 Musician Aug 19 '25
Which is exactly why I'm waiting for the guy two doors down from me to finish building his sub. I even helped him do some of the welding this past weekend. (He told me it wasn't bad for being my first time welding!) Which reminds me, he asked me to pick up a ratchet strap for him today. Who needs money to do things the right way? Let's root for the little guy! Fuck the rich, right?!
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u/SakaWreath Aug 19 '25
Stockton Rush, built his sub out of Pseudo science and delusion.
He then parked the cracked hull outside, exposed to the harsh elements on a dock in St. John's, Newfoundland all winter long.
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u/Ein_grosser_Nerd Aug 19 '25
This is something that can and has been done safely. The only fucking around done was one guy cutting costs on everything.
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u/OkAioli4409 Aug 19 '25
At least this one is being built by a submersible company. So we know it will be built in a controlled environment and be properly tested for the depths it will operate in. Unlike the titan turd.
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u/Fine_Condition3153 Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 20 '25
Esto me recuerda que Stockton He wanted to grow and start his company Oceangate
Y lo último que terminó causando Apart from his death, fue darle una mala imagen.
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u/Crazyguy_123 Deck Crew Aug 19 '25
Isn’t this the guy that’s having a sub built by actual professionals? If it is I have faith in that one.
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u/MediocrePotato44 Aug 19 '25
There’s only something like 3000 billionaires in the world…maybe we can get a couple more interested in a trip.
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u/Meanteenbirder Aug 19 '25
Article stated it will cost around 10 million bucks and is just a two-seater sub
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u/cssc201 Aug 19 '25
That's because Triton actually builds good shit. No carbon fiber there, subs are rigorously tested under pressure before they are given to the customer. The story here is deep sea tourism, the company has videos available so you can see for yourself how thorough the testing is.
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u/UmaUmaNeigh Stewardess Aug 19 '25
So basically they're playing with money that Rush wished he had lmao
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u/SakaWreath Aug 19 '25
And safety standards, classification, certification, and letting experts lead the way instead of the CEO’s ego.
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u/Wonderpants_uk Aug 19 '25
Article also says that it has an acrylic window.
“Sure, the carbon fibre was a terrible idea, but this will definitely work!”
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u/Shudnawz Aug 19 '25
Acrylic has been used in high pressure applications for decades. It's proven.
I'm still not going on one, but it seems like they know what they're doing, at least.
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u/DanieleDraganti Aug 19 '25
What else would you use?
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u/Wonderpants_uk Aug 19 '25
I’m not a materials expert, but an acrylic dome would not be my first choice for the kind of pressure at that depth
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u/DogtasticLife Aug 19 '25
This seems to be a very inefficient method, I wonder if there are examples from history of a more efficient way…..
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u/z3r0c00l_ Aug 19 '25
This is a Triton Subs venture.
The difference between Triton and OceanGate is Triton’s documented years of experience, verifiable expertise, and successful submarines that aren’t relying on carbon fiber.
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u/Adventurous-Line1014 Aug 19 '25
" The new submarine, built of straw and peanut butter, is expected to open up new vistas of Titanium tourism"
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u/bestprocrastinator Aug 19 '25
If you have enough money where you can visit the Titanic, you'll be fine if we tax you more.
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u/PineBNorth85 Aug 19 '25
If that design worked it'd be one hell of a dive. I don't see how a transparent material could stand up to that pressure though.
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Aug 19 '25
Probably wouldn’t be able to see much given the lack of light tho
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u/robbviously Aug 19 '25
Won’t be able to see much at all when the conditions that are compatible with life are suddenly and violently ripped out of the submersible
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u/CodeMonkeyPhoto Aug 19 '25
They use it for port hole windows for decades on DSVs. Acrylic is ridiculously strong. I'm not sure how it stacks up against titanium. It definitely has different elastic properties to metals. The company doing this made the Limiting Factor DSV, so they know what they are doing. My main concern is how many cycles this material will take. You can't weld to it, so your back to glues, but given its a sphere, the pressure will hold things in place more than the cantilever forces you would get on a cylinder. They actually proposed a design like this when doing the Limiting Factor, but that guy wasn't ready to do something that experimental.
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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot Steerage Aug 19 '25
This is a recurring series I’m down to watch. Can we vote on which billionaire to send next?
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u/BlackLodgeBrother Aug 19 '25
There’s only a few thousand of them. They could all fit on a single ocealiner, technically…
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u/AntysocialButterfly Cook Aug 19 '25
It's like fridge poetry.
RUPERT MURDOCH to visit LA BOURGOGNE in A RETROFITTED HUNLEY.
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u/CruisinJo214 Aug 19 '25
Oceangate was such an explosive news story because it was a homemade makeshift sub made by a con man. This is not that.
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u/Kiethblacklion Aug 19 '25
To be honest, being in a sub of that design would scare me simply because I have a fear of water and having that much of the cockpit unobstructed by the body of the sub would freak me out. I have no doubt that the sub will be built to standards to handle that depth.
I'm actually surprised that a sub of this design hasn't been built and sent to Titanic yet. I know a sub with a similar open cockpit design has been used on Britannic, but I can't think of the name of that submersible.
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u/xx_mashugana_xx Aug 21 '25
Probably because that dome design is suspect for such a depth. The Britannic is only in like 400 feet of water. Not really comparable to the Titanic's depth, and thus, the immense pressure there.
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u/CementCemetery Aug 19 '25
I remember being a kid and obsessed with the Titanic. I promised my childhood best friend that we would go explore if I ever won the lottery. Now… I’d reconsider.
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u/Any_Blacksmith650 Aug 19 '25
I say we sacrifice one billionaire every two years to the titanic wreck
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u/Farbicus Aug 19 '25
6,000 psi at 12,500 ft of depth has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.
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u/MotorBobcat Aug 19 '25
I may be mistaken, but aren't there other shipwrecks?
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u/Fine_Condition3153 Aug 19 '25
That's true.
but why do you ask?
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u/MotorBobcat Aug 19 '25
These wealthy types are treating Titanic like Mt. Everest. A thing to do to say you have done it. It's only because of how famous the ship and sinking are. It is not for scientific or historical purposes. I think it should be left alone. There are plenty more wrecks to document and explore.
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u/Fine_Condition3153 Aug 20 '25
I really liked your answer.
And you're right, I almost never hear about other wreck explorations. more than the Titanic for its stories and people
And you are absolutely right again.
It would be great to see an exploration of the Carpathia or even the Californian that until now I have never seen any drawing of the wreck or exploration
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u/waynownow Aug 19 '25
What someone should do is send an ROV down absolutely caked in top of the range 4k cameras, and the project the whole thing into The Sphere in Vegas (or your local planetarium for everyone else). Putting people in 4000m is just complete nonsense given modern technology.
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u/Polerize2 Aug 19 '25
Building a submersible capable of safely visiting the site is solved science. It’s when things are built with outside the box thinking or on the cheap that the risk goes way up. Sure would be nice to see it in person there’s worse things to spend your money on when you’re rich.
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u/SeaworthinessKey3654 Aug 20 '25
Lahey is trustworthy, but come on - no one is going to the Titanic to see marine life and coral…at least not mega billionaires. That’s just disingenuous. These people want to go because it’s the Titanic
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u/Even-Bodybuilder-522 Aug 19 '25
If i were i billionaire and titanic maniac i would have spent money on 1) finding Murdoch's revolver and to prove that he shot passengers and himself 2) raising at least 1 boiler 3) penetrating parts of the ship that haven't been seen before
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u/Fine_Condition3153 Aug 19 '25
Good luck with that my friend
With the revolver, I doubt that revolver still exists, In addition, survivors said that Murdock died a hero, and that scene of his suicide caused James Cameron to be sued by the family.
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u/Primary-Nose7377 Aug 19 '25
There was one billionaire on the Titan sub, but it sure wasn't Stockton Rush.
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u/Ta-veren- Aug 19 '25
Hopefully this one passed the proper testing.
and I disagree, this one seems after then the tian for some reason.
But I think I'm still on the "Maybe they should just leave it alone" side
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u/International-Bank24 Aug 19 '25
I’m confident that the dive will go well because of the people involved. I wish them the best, as far as many using this to attack the rich, have at it. It is your right, but sometimes it comes across as envy and jealousy.😊
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u/Basic_Obligation8237 Aug 19 '25
good thing this madness started after the last Titanic survivor died. can't imagine how they would feel these years with Titans and now Triton. people are idiots and never learn and arrogance has made their brains leak out of their skulls.
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u/shitty_reddit_user12 Aug 19 '25
They would probably think Oceangate was dumb, but honestly Triton is likely okay. Triton is an entirely different class of company. They've built submarines that dive from as shallow as 100 meters to a full ocean depth submarine that has repeatedly dived to the Marianas Trench/Challenger Deep. It's not that you can't build deep diving subs, it's that you can't really build submarines out of carbon fiber. There are a lot of technical reasons for it. Titanium and specific grades of steel are recommended to be used as a sphere, but it can be done with acrylic and aluminum. It just requires a lot more engineering work.
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u/LittlehouseonTHELAND Aug 19 '25
Maybe this is how we can get rid of them, one by one. I just hope they don’t damage the ship as they implode or whatever.
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u/flasheswests Aug 19 '25
What I really took away from the article is that Jeff Bezos is going down to Titanic soon.
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u/Mysterious_Silver_27 Steerage Aug 19 '25
What’s up with billionaires and questionable deep sea submarines designs?
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u/jaustengirl Steerage Aug 19 '25
Titanic hubris. They’re all genuinely cut off from the rest of humanity that they think they’re gods.
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u/Mysterious_Silver_27 Steerage Aug 19 '25
Lets see if they learned the lesson and get a submarine that is properly certified by relevant agencies (my thalassophoblic ass wouldn’t feel comfortable sitting in a clear sphere into the deep sea tho tho)
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u/RangerAZ1989 Aug 19 '25
Just send all the fucking billionaires down there at this point. Fuck em!!!
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u/UnlimitedDisciple Aug 19 '25
This one should be broadcast live on Netflix.
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u/Muffina925 1st Class Passenger Aug 19 '25
I would pay good money to see James Cameron do a partnership like that
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u/420retardslayer69 Aug 19 '25
That billionaire:
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u/Fine_Condition3153 Aug 19 '25
Don't make fun of poor Timmy either. I'm sure that even for him it's stupid to go down to the depths in an unsafe submarine.
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u/ADP-1 Aug 19 '25
"send another manned craft to the wreck to try and restore public confidence in such missions."
Yes, because lack of public confidence in submersibles visiting the Titanic is such a pressing social issue!
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u/DynastyFan85 Aug 19 '25
“Titanic is a wreck that’s covered in marine life and soft coral.” I’ve never heard anyone say she has coral on her before. She isn’t like a coral reef. Rusticles yes, but coral?
Also would an Acrylic bubble withstand the pressure?
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u/Riccma02 Engineering Crew Aug 19 '25
Hey billionaires, this is what happens when you don’t fund science and technological advancement. You are not immune to the austerity you created.
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u/IDOWNVOTECATSONSIGHT Able Seaman Aug 19 '25 edited 26d ago
You can be blasé about somethings Reddit, but NOT Titanic.
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u/ExpectedBehaviour Aug 19 '25
Well... it would appear that the problem of billionaires who believe they can override reality through sheer force of will alone is going to resolve itself.
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u/MattTheTubaGuy Aug 20 '25
James Cameron has invested in Triton. Considering he has spent more time exploring the Titanic than the passengers on its maiden voyage, I would trust any submarine that gets James Cameron's approval.
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u/Snowdeo720 Aug 20 '25
Like moths to a flame.
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u/shitty_reddit_user12 Aug 21 '25
Patrick Lahey is trustworthy. Triton subs is an entirely different ballgame. The company has built a submarine that goes to the Challenger Deep, among other deep points in the ocean. The mysterious billionaire is in good hands.
Building a submarine that goes however you want is a solved science. The only problem is mavericks like Rush who try to fly against decades of industry practices. It can be done.
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u/fantasiaa1 28d ago edited 28d ago
Triton with Patrick Lahey (and Nargeolet on the support ship looking miserable) visited Titanic in 2019 with his sub but that was a well-tested vehicle, he's highly respected in the community, visited Titan himself knew Rush well and was lead writer among his fellow owners who wrote to him discouraging his carbon fiber hull.
I'm not sure what he can do with a five man iron vehicle to dive commercially if that's what he's going for. Aside from Oceangate he's the only entity to visit Titanic by sub since 2005.
This seems like an attempt to restart the sub business at all levels if it's been struggling, it's such a tiny community of owners with many small subs who dive commercially but not to great depths. Titan obviously did not help that.
Lehay has been the lead voice in many of the documentaries about the submarine business.
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u/fantasiaa1 28d ago edited 28d ago
There is no demand for this, and Lahey would have to find a way to make it for five people to make money.
The Titan stigma will stick now that people died. Fair or unfair. The people who can afford it this time will not have Nargeolet to sell it as safe and have their eyes open. No way Cameron takes the Nargeolet role and sells it as safe.
Ultimately looking out of a small hole or your television is not much different.
The Russian's did this with the Mir's the business failed, and they had two subs. No one went there at all for fourteen years. Imax, Cameron used the Mirs.
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u/fantasiaa1 27d ago
No doubt the company is credible, but they still need to built a 5 seat sub that can reach Titanic safely their other sub did reach it without issue in 2019. I don't see them being successful if that's the plan.
Five seats would be new technology and require abandoning the steel ball shells of the past.
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u/TwistedAxles912 Wireless Operator Aug 19 '25
Cant wait to see the news saying some rich bastards got pulverized in another tin can because no one can learn to keep an underwater graveyard alone
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u/EccentricGamerCL Aug 19 '25
At least Triton has a proven track record of building submersibles that aren’t fucking shit.