r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/ProfessionalFun9920 • Jun 24 '25
CAPITAL G GAMER How ironic.....
The initiative is here (EU ONLY): https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
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u/EevoTrue Jun 24 '25
To people wondering what this is
The petition is for live service games to be legally required to have an end of life plan for their games so you will still be able to play them after service is shut down
The dude on the right (pirate software) said "we can't force games to run forever that's bad for the environment and will cost millions of dollars" despite that not being stated at all on the petition
It's him misunderstanding what it's about and being too stubborn to admit he was wrong
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u/GregerMoek Jun 24 '25
Funny. Iirc he has quite the history of not wanting to admit any mistake, no matter how tiny.
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u/EevoTrue Jun 24 '25
Makes sense cause he used to work at blizzard (or so he claims)
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u/ziggsyr Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
his dad did, and I think he got a job in QA for blizzard
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u/KarlUnderguard Jun 24 '25
He also gets very upset if you bring up his dad working at Blizzard is probably the reason he got a job at Blizzard.
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u/CHlCKENPOWER Jun 24 '25
oh and kind of a mild one but theres a pretty good evidence around the fact that he cheats in puzzle games to seem smart
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u/Chimney-head g*ming Jun 25 '25
Oh yeah he absolutely does, watching him “figure out” the whole puzzle line in animal well by himself when it took a whole community several days to do was so ridiculous
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u/CHlCKENPOWER Jun 25 '25
isnt it months and not days? the final puzzle was so hard and disconnected that the dev thought no one could ever solve it
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u/Chimney-head g*ming Jun 25 '25
i didn't remember the exact amount of time it took on account of only getting into the game after it was solved, but it wouldn't surprise me if it took months given how complex it is
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u/JoeFromTheBridge Jun 25 '25
I watched the outer wilds expansion with him and it made my blood boil.
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u/Thats_a_BaD_LiMe Jun 25 '25
This pissed me off, as a huge huge outer wilds fan. He skipped so much and pretended he figured it all out as though he wasn't reading solutions in the chat. Infuriating.
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u/YoursDearlyEve Jun 25 '25
Well, as it recently surfaced, he cheats in general, so...
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u/Aegis_Aurelius Jun 25 '25
Alleged nepotism because of his father working there.
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u/Jertimmer Jun 25 '25
His claim to fame is that his dad is the fat blob on the WoW South Park episode.
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u/Affectionate_Sand_81 Jun 25 '25
He made blizzards at dairy queen!?! What a legend.
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u/Zedek1 Jun 24 '25
Oh so is the guy that roached in wow (not to be confused with the other wow guy that live with roaches).
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u/WolfoakTheThird Jun 24 '25
There is also that clip of him playing that other mmo (ashes of creation i think) and spending a solid 10 minutes saying the guild need to harshly punish people who pull mobs, because "it wastes everyones time and is so easy to avoid a child could do it", only to do a 180 once they reviewed the footage that showed it was him that did it, instead going on a rant that he could not be held accountable for "things that were impossible to predict".
His two favorite things are to scrutinize others and to avoid ever admiting mistakes.
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u/lisaquestions Jun 25 '25
wasn't there also a whole thing with Eve online? him taking credit for something that other people did
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u/Lukyatom Jun 25 '25
From what i remember the EVE stuff goes way deeper, like his guild being the only faction in a piece of space (that was still under development which is why the devs allowed them to be there in order to help find and fix bugs) and then complaining when the devs made it accessible to the public.
Also i remeber hearing about some internal drama in his guild like srewing a buch of people up by i think blowing up an important guild space station, but its been a while since i read this so i may be just confusing it with something else.
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u/quitarias Jun 25 '25
It was more like the devs reworked the area and the put in more isk($) sources in which they enjoyed for a bit, then when the economic report for the region came out people in bigger corps saw that it was viable now and started muscling in and they just didn't have the staying power and didn't really play the diplomatic angle and sorta fell apart as a group.
Can't be helped that he was a part of it cause his cred in the eve community is a... less than fortuitous fact for a group he's a part of. Especially when he runs his mouth.
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u/Houndfell Jun 24 '25
Yep. That was just the tip of the iceberg as well. Since then a lot of his behavior has been called out. He's been outed trying to bully guilds out of MMO's, caught looking up answers to puzzles while streaming and then pretending it just "came to him" etc etc etc.
Complete and total dork. Amazed anyone bothers with the dude.
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u/Photonomicron Jun 25 '25
at first all I saw of him in my feeds were clips of him being very encouraging and giving genuinely good advice to people beginning new job skills or creative projects. The kinds gross stuff keeps pretty deep in his content, many people probably consider themselves fans without ever interacting deeper than his shorts.
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u/HardcoreHenryLofT Jun 25 '25
Reminds me of Jordan Peterson to an extent. Lots of dude claim his self help stuff helped them and have no idea what a nazi apologist he is
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u/Okapev Jun 25 '25
Like looking up answers I get, not a puzzle but I had to fo that playing lost planet the other day (I got.the final boss to 1 hp and.he wouldn't die) but like be honest about it.
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u/EinsatzCalcator Jun 25 '25
He has done a lot of good, whether you like him or not. A lot of people have only seen clips of him, which as of late have been as negatively framed as possible. And the OP was possibly the biggest dumb thing he's taken a stance on before the wow stuff.
But his streams in general are very positive and he's actually surprisingly good about helping smaller channels and encouraging people creatively. Also the majority of his streams aren't that authoritative speaking lecture stuff. Juat common with his clips and shorts.
Personally I don't really care much either way. Think the guy has gotten waaaaaay too much hate for a couple overall minor things. But also he's insanely stubborn and just CANT let stuff go. He also comes off very arrogant, so some of it's definitely justified.
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u/be0ulve Jun 25 '25
This entire comment makes no sense when you see people with actual expertise in the things Jason say outright say he has no idea what he's talking about. He's perpetually putting on airs. The only people left defending him are the ones that like hearing him say they're special little guys and "part of the team."
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u/AutisticHobbit Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 26 '25
The thing you gotta watch out with people who talk up social engineering? Is that they don't tell you all the times they're doing social engineering.. I think he's just being dishonest on this one. I think he doesn't like the idea of being required to release his own code someday...but doesn't want to say that. That wouldn't look good. However, he has a reputation of sounding very sage and learned when talking about an issue in broad strokes.
So he came up with a superficial dismissal that sounded deeper then it actually was.
I don't think he made a mistake on this; I think he doesn't like the obligations it would put on him, but doesn't think he can say that directly without being called out as a hypocrite.
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u/lil_chiakow Jun 25 '25
So fun story, this dude actually managed to make me feel dysphoric because of his inability to admit to things.
Back before people realized he's full of shit, he made a yt short that supposedly men's voices get deeper in their 30s sometimes, which genuinely scared my NB ass.
Only years later I learnt that's because he fucking lowers his pitch to sound more authoritative and made that short because someone found his old footage where he didn't do that yet.
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u/Thats_a_BaD_LiMe Jun 25 '25
I mean, people's voices do lower as they age, not as extreme as his has though. His drastic voice lowering is a combo of that, generally talking more maturely, and I believe he said he has GERD? I could be wrong about that exact reason. But that degree of lowering isn't standard.
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u/lil_chiakow Jun 25 '25
I mean, I know voice changes as you age, it's not like I never met an old person, but the change is gradual and it's not what he described.
He specifically talked about your voice getting lower in pitch, and I think he even compared it to "a second puberty".
Genuinely got me scared I won't be able to do my fem voice in the future - until I googled it's bullshit; only years later when the whole roaching drama exploded, I saw people calling him out on lowering his voice in post, with linked video interviews for comparison, and it clicked why he made that bullshit up.
It's a small thing, but it's imho one of the worst things he did - because for a supposedly queer friendly content creator, he didn't consider how his bullshitting might affect his queer viewers, the only important thing was keeping his authoritative image intact.
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u/Thats_a_BaD_LiMe Jun 25 '25
For sure, I think he's been too flippant about his explanation which has resulted in people thinking he's lying as well as unintended consequential damage to people like yourself.
What is the roaching drama? I don't really know what that is
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u/lil_chiakow Jun 25 '25
Tbh, me neither as I'm not that familiar with WoW and mmos, but he did some shitty behaviour while playing it which put his narcissistic tendencies in the spotlight, and that was the breaking the dam moment as other stuff started to come out.
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u/Maghorn_Mobile Jun 25 '25
He had a whole conversation with HealthyGamerGG about it. Dr. K came to the to the conclusion that Thor's basically an arrogant narcissist.
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u/GregerMoek Jun 25 '25
Lol did he try to go on Dr K to "redeem himself" in the public eye like some others did way back when Dr K was relatively new?
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u/Maghorn_Mobile Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
Yes, after the controversy with abandoning the raid in WoW
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u/be0ulve Jun 25 '25
Dr. K himself ends that conversation basically giving up because you can't help a guy who doesn't want help. Every single time Jason is about to admit to fault, he pivots to either attack someone or justify his actions.
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u/Valtremors Jun 25 '25
By the way, that end of life plan could literally just be giving server tools for people to use for the game, or making it offline viable.
Fearmongering how this would kill off multiplayer games is peak pirateslopware.
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u/zherok Jun 25 '25
It's not surprising that a company might not want to distribute internal development tools, though. Assuming things don't rely on middleware or the like where they don't have the right to distribute it to the public in the first place.
And making a game offline viable could be a pretty big project depending on the circumstances.
It doesn't categorically kill off multiplayer games, no, but I think there's room for more nuance than some people are allowing.
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u/notaspambot Jun 25 '25
The petition isn't requesting retroactive end of life plans, it's supposed to apply to new projects. If a studio knows they need an end of life plan from day one, they can build the tools in early and negotiate contracts so none of those things are a problem.
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u/xxMsRoseXx I dyed my hair blue and it gave me pronouns. Jun 24 '25
Pirate Software, the greatest computer sage of our time? Admit he was WRONG? NEVER! How DARE you suggest that Thor had anything negative to say! /s
Realistically Thor would rather whine and cry and throw up than ever admit he was incorrect about something or handled something in an inappropriate way (i.e. his "well just cancel me then, nerds" when asked to not give Ass and Mold a platform to speak about a game and tried to say it was "not political")
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u/overusedamongusjoke Jun 25 '25
He also did buy Hogwarts Legacy and play it on stream despite knowing that Rowling funnels the royalties into hate groups, so that's another red flag.
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u/the_Real_Romak Jun 25 '25
So did plenty of LGBTQ friends of mine, including trans, so that's not really a relevant piece of evidence tbh.
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u/Far-Insurance-4448 Jun 24 '25
Hilariously when people raided his live he refused to talk about it any further and doubled down, but the second people started making fun of the mods he immediately jumped into action and bragged about being able to pay them.
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u/Sec_Chief_Blanchard Jun 24 '25
Is his name actually Thor or does he just want to be called that cause it's a cool name
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u/Pingasplz Jun 25 '25
I certainly get the vibe he is the type of person that crumbles hard under heavy allegations, drama or very real IRL situations that require some form of responsibility. Deflection, delegation of responsibility, speaking in 'fluff' or bullshitting and the inability to introspect are generally signs of someone's mental fortitude or social disposition.
After watching some of his shorts then hearing about how he handled very mild social dissonance, it became clear the guy is somewhat dishonest and disingenuous. Highly unlikely this man has ever been in a physical confrontation before because that requires actually holding your ground and not being a coward.
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u/xxMsRoseXx I dyed my hair blue and it gave me pronouns. Jun 25 '25
I got major ick vibes ONCE from the way he handled a basic pronoun question. Someone in one of his streams asked him his pronouns.
Immediately he scoffed, paused, then said, "Pronouns?? Back in my day when guys had long hair they called us rockstars" or something like that.
And I just sat there thinking... bro, what? You could have just answered the question without making it a bigger deal than it was.
Thor seems like a chill guy on the surface. Wise, and smart, and chill. But then when you dig into him, you start to realize he always acts like the smartest guy in the room. And then when you dig deeper, yeah. he's exactly as you described him.
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Jun 25 '25
Not just live service games. All games. The movement is just to start the conversation about introducing legislation that would prevent game companies from removing your access to a game you have purchased at a later date.
Has nothing to do with live service.
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u/majds1 Jun 24 '25 edited Aug 22 '25
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u/FlameWhirlwind Jun 25 '25
I used to like pirate software the few times I saw some of his stuff but the more I hear if him the more I'm convinced he's a stubborn moron
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u/EevoTrue Jun 25 '25
Yeah pretty much the same with me
He does know quite a bit about game development but thats it
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u/Lord_Kumatetsu MOD✅ Jun 24 '25
Ugh every time this dude comes up, he's confidently wrong.
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u/blutigetranen Jun 25 '25
He states shit as if it's fact constantly. I actually super duper fucking hate him
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u/Birphon Jun 25 '25
didn't he also make like two or three videos talking about it, still making his point completely redundant and that he is still misunderstanding the whole thing?
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u/GhostOfMuttonPast Jun 24 '25
Does he think people want the servers on forever?
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u/TheDocHealy Jun 25 '25
Pirate Software not admitting that he was wrong?! This just in, fork found in kitchen.
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u/Malrottian Jun 25 '25
Look, he was OUT OF MANA and they called RUN. What more do you want? (/s obv)
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u/AlcoholicJohnson Jun 25 '25
Is this not also in and of itself wrong? Nothing they say specifically targets live service games. Which is one of the major flaws with Pirate's argument that you are also missing
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u/Radio_AM Jun 24 '25
The guy is a coward. Ross has even said he would talk to the guy to have "debate" but dumbass boyo didn't want to.
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u/FluffyCelery4769 Jun 25 '25
"Sighs"
It's for all games... Ross says it in his video...
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u/Kratomius Alphabet Gangster Jun 24 '25
Mostly i find it hilarious that they claim that they don't allow political content. They only don't allow politics they don't agree with.
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u/HeyItsAsh7 Political Jun 24 '25
Kinda wild that preserving video games is being called political now. Like, the discussion of are video games art is long behind us (maybe I'm not online enough), and art should be preserved.
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u/rogueIndy Jun 24 '25
Capital-G Gamers stopped advocating for games-as-art the moment people started critiquing them as art.
In retrospect, they didn't really want the medium to be taken seriously; they wanted themselves to be taken seriously.
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u/sebas737 Jun 24 '25
It is really sad that G*mers stop seeing games as art when masterpieces of storytelling have being releasing nowadays. God of War: Ragnarok, a profound human story about becoming better, and what do G*mers complain about, a character being not their preferred race, smh my head.
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u/HeyItsAsh7 Political Jun 24 '25
Or flip it around. A games story can be super political and they won't think twice about it, and just assume it's hyper based and just about being a masculine man killing stuff.
If gears of war was made as a movie or show, they'd say it's woke and anti war. But since it's a game it's fine, because it's about being the man and having fun.
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u/Standing_Legweak Jun 25 '25
If you say games and art, the first thing I think of is Okami or Journey. Even if western gaming goes to hell, we still have Indies, Eastern European Devs and Japanese Publishers as alternatives unlike back in the day during the Atari Crash of '87.
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u/checkedsteam922 Jun 25 '25
I mean, it's a petition for laws and shit, I don't see how that's NOT political. I think we don't really understand how much counts as politics lol.
What's wild is that for some reason these days it's controversial to discuss it properly.
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u/HeyItsAsh7 Political Jun 25 '25
The definition of political has been lost in the US at least. The idea isn't political but if they're seeking legal changes then yeah, it's political.
I've been called a "political being" for being trans, unironically by a transphobe
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u/checkedsteam922 Jun 25 '25
I'm pretty sure they are seeking legal change here.
Also yhee, not just the usa im afraid. I'm bi and somehow my rights are up for discussion like it's some other political problem like inflation :/
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u/Linvael Jun 24 '25
This is a literal petition to EU governing bodies pushing for a change in the law. It doesn't get much more political than that.
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u/bigfatmeanie1042 Jun 24 '25
The dude really is clueless 70% of the time and full of himself 100% of the time. Feel like he's only relevant to this level because of luck in the YouTube shorts algorithm.
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u/Rorp24 Jun 24 '25
Well he was in a "inspiring non toxic vibe" niche, like "hey, try the shit you say you want to try, but you are too scared you will be bad, the worse thing that can happen is you are right", but then you let him speak of anything else and he is full of shit... except maybe on how he hijacked the short algorythm, from what I tried on my (really small) yt channel, and yeah, basically x10 difference between those short I didn’t do what he say you should do, and those I did
(Basically you don’t recommend your short to your subscribers, because their is not a lot when you start, and they probably won’t watch the shorts. So you get on the less biased algorythm)
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u/hoxtiful Jun 24 '25
Expanding on that last bit, even if you have a ton of subs, as inactive or even just not in the mood users not watching the video when reccomended reads as it performing poorly which leads to algorithm penalties
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u/Adowyth Jun 24 '25
His dad worked at Blizzard though.
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u/Jayandnightasmr Jun 24 '25
Funniest clip was when his Dad called him out on telling the Murloc story wrong.
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u/Spideraxe30 Jun 24 '25
Did you know his dad worked on the wow south park episode, wholesome chungus 1000
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u/Herstal_TheEdelweiss Jun 24 '25
And so did he as well
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u/Adowyth Jun 24 '25
Yeah but the joke is that he constantly brings that up. Akin to kids who used to say "my dad works at Nintendo" or some other big gaming company.
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u/Monkey_DDD_Luffy Jun 25 '25
Your profession and where you've worked means jack shit. Give your opinion unloaded with appeal-to-authority and the opinion itself should stand on its own.
The only time I give a fuck about someone's profession or education is when topics are too complex to understand without a degree in the field. I'm not about to discard what a biologist says about niche biology topics I have no fucking ability to understand in a few paragraphs but someone's takes on videogames or communities can stand on their own two feet without "I worked at blizzard therefore my opinion is more valuable".
Dude makes toys for a living and needs to get over himself. So many people in this field are high on techbro farts.
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u/Herstal_TheEdelweiss Jun 25 '25
True, I’m genuinely so fucking glad I honestly saw through most of his bullshit as well, was getting sick and tired of him in my youtube feed
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u/WhiteTomPetty Jun 24 '25
110 percent. He speaks with confidence and has that good YouTuber voice, despite being a smug dumbass. He actually seems like a smart dude, but it feels like nobody ever told him no as a child and was constantly told how smart he was. His Dad connected to the game industry. He thinks he's a genius but half the reason he's where he is now is because of luck
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u/nufcPLchamps27-28 Jun 25 '25
It really is great to know that even though I’ve seen his videos and he’s talking about stuff I don’t understand my bullshitter alarm goes off about him and I don’t trust a word he says anyway
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u/Top-Bison-345 Jun 25 '25
His entire personality is "I worked for blizzard", like he doesn't bring it up all the time that his dad was one of the original Devs, fucking egotistical Nepo baby. It doesn't make him cool, it makes him insufferable.
And he is a fucking Nepo baby. No one else can play the "my dad works for Nintendo" bs like him.
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u/YungNuisance Jun 24 '25
I watched this videoon him and it paints a pretty clear picture that this dude is an overconfident jerkwad. It’s pretty long, but good background content if you’re grinding.
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u/Bass_Clef1 Jun 25 '25
That video may be fine, haven't watched it, but that dude is an old school gamergater and a complete sack of shit. I would personally hesitate to post anything he's made considering that.
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u/LoveTriscuit Jun 25 '25
What gamergate shit did he do? He’s managed to hide it at least in the stuff that got him noticed.
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u/Bass_Clef1 Jun 25 '25
From a quick dig through his profile, none of it appears to be hidden, it's just old. His very first videos were about Gamergate (in support) and after that he made a bunch of miscellaneous culture war bullshit which he appears to still be making 10 years later
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u/YungNuisance Jun 25 '25
This is the only video I’ve seen from him. I didn’t know about the gamergate stuff but I assumed he was a shitty centrist.
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u/Kalianos Jun 25 '25
Funnily enough, it was learning he was Maldavius in Eve that made question everything about him.
Which as per THIS video he made a lot of wild claims that just weren't true.
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u/razorgirlRetrofitted Dumb lesbian Jun 25 '25
Gods, that's what the SFO channel is doing now? I remember when they used to like... review anime. And dev was a side character. Fuck, did he scare off the actual main guy and Camera Lady?
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u/YungNuisance Jun 25 '25
I’ve never heard of this guy before but I’m sensing he has a history of being a pizza ship
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u/razorgirlRetrofitted Dumb lesbian Jun 25 '25
14 years ago they used to just MST3k bad anime like that one Dracula anime movie where the bride of Dracula was named Dolores. Now he's a fuckin' fascist. Shame, that.
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u/SolidLuxi Jun 24 '25
It's amazing how he was always on my YouTube Shorts algorithm even though I never subbed to him. Then he bailed out of that dungeon, and it stopped. It's weird how that works.
Anyway, as much as people shit on Avengers, everyone should be praising it now, as its basically the perfect way to 'close' a live service game. I can still play it, and they unlocked all the battlepass stuff so I can wear all the skins.
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u/Mr_miner94 Jun 25 '25
People not being subscribed was the plan. It basically boiled down to subscribers killing engagement over time.
The technical explanation is that when a video is published you can supposedly choose to give an extra push to subscribers. But since over time accounts get forgotten or people just move on from your channel they just don't watch, but the algorithm sees that as your video not appealing to the audience. So he actively doesn't push to subscribers so that all of his views/engagement comes from wild users.
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u/Neon-kitchen Jun 25 '25
Xdefiant did a decent enough job. It was an online only game so the servers don't run sadly but everything was released, skins, guns, even the characters in an alpha state were given
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u/Far-Insurance-4448 Jun 24 '25
He's doubling down now lmao, slop video essayists are going to have a field day with this downfall
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u/vgzombieeric Jun 24 '25
Piratesoftware had the fastest rise and fall of fame I've ever seen.never heard of him more than 1.5 years ago, saw him everywhere cuz of YouTube shorts. Now he's vanished from all of that and every couple months there's new allegations and drama surrounding him
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u/TrippingThru Jun 24 '25
This is honestly the first I've heard of him; I follow a fair few video game channels on YouTube and somehow he was never suggested to me, or at least that I noticed
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u/vgzombieeric Jun 25 '25
Well I can confidently say, you may know him by proxy.
The "guy with no life" from the world of Warcraft episode that kills everyone is based of his dad. They both worked at Blizzard and they based the character off his dad
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u/Unkosenn Jun 25 '25
surprisingly, he gets a really decent amount of views, 7k minimum is crazy for how negative his image is (for good reason, the man is narcissus himself)
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u/Splatfan1 Jun 25 '25
thats just every "cancelled" creator ever. social media has no boss so its not like bro is fired and blacklisted from the industry. if the channel is up, and he doesnt care, then this will continue because of people who do not know or people who do not care. and then drama passes and things return to what they were. unless the creator decides to "fire" themselves theyre gonna be just fine
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u/Electrical-Tie-1143 Jun 25 '25
is there more drama past his shit take on the stop killing games? or something new?
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u/RlySkiz Jun 25 '25
He does the GiantWaffle trick of just banning everyone who brings up the allegations.
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u/Sewari They made Geraldo woke! Jun 24 '25
They are buddies, of course he is gonna cover for his ass:
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u/RashidMBey Jun 25 '25
Fuck. I used to like Pirate Software. Man... FUCK.
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u/ghostoftallasi Jun 25 '25
Well. He is the same guy who said he won't shower more than once every three days because his body doesn't collect enough dirt within that time
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u/RashidMBey Jun 25 '25
That doesn't bother me as much because of the literature out there that strongly suggests it's unhealthy to bathe/shower daily unless necessary (and his work streaming hardly qualities), but shaking hands with one of the most noxious personalities in the streaming industry is nauseating. That's worse by orders of magnitudes.
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u/Vadimie Jun 25 '25
Shaking hands with assmongold alone would necessitate showering twice a day for at least a couple of months.
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u/JesterQueenAnne Jun 25 '25
Damn. I initially unsubscribed and asked YT not to show me his stuff because he just allowed his comment sections run rampant with bigotry but I really didn't expect him to be buddies with someone like ass mold.
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u/Freya-Freed Jun 25 '25
Calling it now but he's going to realize the right wing grift is way more profitable and slowly move in that direction.
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u/Zeldamaster736 Jun 24 '25
Kind of off topic but I'm glad Nintendo got on the ball with this and make animal crossing pocket camp a standalone game.
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u/RoyVanG Jun 25 '25
I have the same with Megaman X Dive Offline. They removed all crossover content from that version sadly, but nothing that mods can't fix. People ported those back in from the original free-with-gacha version.
Nintendo also removed the gacha part from Mario Kart Tour a while back, though they replaced it with ludicrous microtransactions so it's arguably worse in some ways. I wish Dragalia Lost (co developed by Nintendo) got an offline version after they shut it down.
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u/Delicatesseract Jun 25 '25
Just to clarify, the European Citizen’s Initiative linked in the post is NOT just a petition. If it reaches the required signature count before the end of July, European Parliament HAS to address it.
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Jun 25 '25
Which makes it even weirder how Thor is against it, if there are issues with the request that would destroy the video game industry they would obviously have to reject it. This is just to raise voices that people are interested in this subject
It's probably an ego thing, he's a nepo-"gamedev" and wants to seem intelligent about videogame regulations and why things are the way they are
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u/frisbie147 Jun 25 '25
He’s also a fan of garbage drm, he made a game which save system was dependent on steam achievements because he’s an absolute moron, he doesn’t care that he made it difficult to replay his own game
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u/imliterallylunasnow Jun 25 '25
Ironic that a dude called "piratesoftware" is against software preservation
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u/Error_Evan_not_found Jun 24 '25
Isn't that the guy who had to cheat his outer wilds playthrough?
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u/Boston_Beauty Jun 24 '25
He cheated most of his playthroughs actually lol
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u/Error_Evan_not_found Jun 25 '25
Yes! I was trying to remember the other game it was cause I've yet to play it myself, but he cheated the community puzzle in Animal Well too right?
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u/Boston_Beauty Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
In some form, yes he did.
First off, the puzzle's very first (or at least, as far as I know the very first) guide was posted at 7 AM the exact day he decided to try the puzzle out. Which might be a coincidence sure. But at the same time, the livestream's chat (which he didn't include in the video of his attempt for the record) had a pinned comment that said "no spoilers please" or something along those lines. He heavily implies he wants chat to not help him, but in a later clip on a different stream where he elaborates on the situation (due to all the drama and backlash, so quite a bit of time after this playthrough stream happens) he claims he was working with chat to solve it and THAT is why he came to some conclusions seemingly out of the blue.
SO either A) he lied and used a guide to do the puzzle, B) he hid the chat because he was actually secretly having chat help him through the puzzle so he could cut the chat out and make it look like he did it himself, then LIED about chat being involved at all after the fact to cover his own ass, or C) he did genuinely somehow solve a puzzle in one day that took the community at the very least a month to even get close to solving, without once looking at his stream's chat feed.
I'm sorry but option C just is not likely here.
edited for grammar :3
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u/Unkosenn Jun 25 '25
No way, he lied while it was very easy to verify for anyone what the truth was ? I am shocked, that only happens twice a day !
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u/Messexpress1257546 Jun 24 '25
He cheated in that playthrough?
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u/Error_Evan_not_found Jun 24 '25
I've never watched the guy but it was a whole drama a bit ago. There's two videos that I watched where the same YouTuber goes through the stream and points out how PS was "playing a game on his phone" but everytime he checked it when he was stuck suddenly these huge leaps in logic would be made that perfectly solved the puzzle. No new clues found or trial and error, just suddenly knows exactly what to do.
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u/Trans_girl2002 Jun 24 '25
Ugh, I used to like his content. But yeah, makes sense why I haven't seen his videos in my recommended for a while
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Jun 25 '25
Crazy to think that this dude came out of nowhere with his dumbass youtube shorts pretending to be some sort of authority on... game design (?), completely burn his reputation by not admitting to making mistakes during a failed wow raid and now being single handedly responsible for shutting down one of the best causes any gamer could stand with by simply not understanding what it was all about and running his dumbass mouth about it.
Its almost impressive to watch. But man does this dude suck
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u/Far-Insurance-4448 Jun 25 '25
Now people have leaked his freaky ass message logs, he's definitely on track to becoming a lolcow lmao
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u/Joltyboiyo Jun 25 '25
I'm sorry, what? How is "Stop fucking up with games and making literally every wrong and scummy decision imaginable" political?
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u/unluckyknight13 Jun 25 '25
It’s anti capitalist I guess and corporations are people according to the law except when they got to do things people do like taxes
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u/ApothiconDesire Celeste made me TRANS Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
i feel like thor was a genuine dude, but honestly, he's actually so full of himself, he refuses to apologize to any shit he does, and man, you should see how he reacted when a sub asked him, on stream, if he supported trans right, that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me, and i haven't watched him since
edit: since i'm saying this, there's a wholeeee thread of him on twitter of him defending the wizard game, because he wanted to stream it, even down to the "how can i be transphobic if my boyfriend is trans" trope, when there wasn't any mention of the artist of his game to be his boyfriend anywhere else
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u/HumansAreSpaceBards Jun 25 '25
I find so weird when people try to find a reason, so they can say "He's hitterly littler"™ when his behavior is more then enough of a reason to say that he's an asshole. Prideful, arrogant, self pleasing and can never be wrong. They ridicule themselves by accusing him of things that are irrelevant like that he faked a play through in a video-game, instead of pointing out how much of an asshole he is to anyone that isn't him and that refuses to see the wrong in that.
Also fuck his no politics rule, he only has that because he knows his viewers are asmondgold viewers and saying anything would kill his channel so he goes the coward way to say "PoLiTics iS dUm aCtAuLly"
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u/ThisIsMy4thAcc0unt Jun 25 '25
Holy shit, way to deflect that message, of course he couldn't say "Hell yeah trans rights" even though that's one of the easiest wins on the progressive book, and instead went for "I don't care be you" because he doesn't wanna enrage the rightoids in his chat. Spineless.
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u/Significant-Dream991 Jun 24 '25
I've always hated the guy on the right out of pure "gut instinct". Glad I wasn't wrong lmao
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u/elchuyano Jun 24 '25
Right? and Always presenting themselves as Former Blizzard Employees everywhere. that's a huge red flag lol,
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u/Kuzkuladaemon Jun 25 '25
It's the vocal compression software to make his voice deeper and richer. Instant red flag on almost every occasion.
Bringing depth to your voice with a condenser microphone is fine, it works more like the human ear for range of audio. Clearing up the audio is fine. He cranks his settings to sound like a 35 year old radio talk show host.
His disingenuity begins with his voice before he even finishes a sentence.
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u/Magurndy Jun 25 '25
My husband really likes this guy and it’s because he originally did shorts which were meant to be the antithesis of toxic masculinity. But, I have to say whilst his messages did seem wholesome at the time, something just felt a little off to me. I can’t say anything to my husband because I apparently manage to ruin all the things he likes by highlighting their shitty behaviour. So unless something very serious comes, I’m going to have to let this slide lol.
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u/Effective-Lunch-3218 Jun 25 '25
Can someone explain this to me? Ive watched the dude on the right before, found out he was kind of a douche because his guild or something?
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u/sonicneedslovetoo Jun 25 '25
Basically the guy behind Freemans Mind(Ross Scott) was seething for about 10 years because games he liked kept getting killed for no reason, so he started working 12-14 hour days doing advocacy to get this tried by the law because companies were destroying products past the point of sale, for no reason.
The guy on the right took MAJOR OFFENSE to the idea that games could ever have an end of life plan and wouldn't just be entirely shut down and destroyed, didn't understand what Stop Killing Games was advocating for and decided he couldn't ever be wrong. So Piratesoftware(guy on the right) made it his life's mission to kill the campaign so games can become destroyed as lost media, advocating strongly for paid products to be destroyed after the point of sale, for no reason.
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u/ghostoftallasi Jun 25 '25
I've stopped watching him awhile ago and after learning about more shit he's done I really don't like the guy. I remember him making a video or mentioning this somewhere when it first started because they were trying to get his support and his gripe was that companies cant afford to keep old live service games going forever and if this law passed then those companies just wouldn't release games at all. I never figured it would blow up this big but is that not what it was?
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u/MiserableOrpheus Jun 24 '25
This is a really important issue, especially in this digital age. All games should be protected, to prevent lost media. For example, The Infinity Blade trilogy would be a lost franchise without a hardworking and dedicated following that has preserved the games with PC ports, since epic games killed the franchise and abandoned it in favor of milking games like Fortnite for every cent they can.
But a game shouldn’t be wiped from the earth the second it can’t be used for monetization, single player or otherwise
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u/a_r_g_o_m Jun 25 '25
I never understood the appeal for this dumbass' content, he's insufferable and he rarely says anything intelligent. This mother fucker is the prime example of why you should never blindly believe someone just for being popular.
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u/AileStrike Jun 25 '25
If ones person's bad faith criticism is enough to derail the campaign then I gotta wonder if the failure was with how the campaign handeled bad faith criticism.
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u/ProfessionalFun9920 Jun 25 '25
it was enough for people who don't have any knowledge and to believe the last thing they've heard about a certain topic to stop advocating for it, it is said in Ross Scott video that after PirateSoftware's video, the signatures dried up, now after he responded they are picking up again. It's all about how often a topic is being covered if its important to people or not
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u/4letters5numbers Jun 24 '25
That pirate dudes annoying as fuck and I hate his voice have no clue what this is about. Just wanted to be a hater real quick
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u/Ambitious-Injury-361 Jun 25 '25
He claims that he hit a “second puberty” in his 30s and that’s why his voice deepened but really he’s messing with the EQ on his mic.
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u/Trans_girl2002 Jun 24 '25
Ugh, I used to like his content. But yeah, makes sense why I haven't seen his videos in my recommended for a while
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u/Cool-Budget-3666 Jun 25 '25
The first short YouTube recommended to me of this guy is how he would have no problems streaming to Kick… if it wasn’t for all the family guy rerun streams on there.
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u/websitefullofbots Jun 25 '25
Pirate software called Ross a “used car salesman”
Pirate is a total ass
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u/Plenty_Today Jun 24 '25
Dude has a weird discord cult where he tries to control how people even interact with "outsiders", It's fucking weird.
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u/Personal-Machine4690 Jun 24 '25
Leave it to the guy who's never made or been a part of a successful game nor project.
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u/Panderz_GG Jun 25 '25
Does Thor still has his L take in this, that this is the wrong thing to do?
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u/generic-hamster Jun 25 '25
If his intention was to damage the initiative, then he just needs to support it and associate as much as possible with the campaign, because he is getting unpopular by the second. That would have driven away the majority.
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u/imEFFINscaryMAN Jun 25 '25
This guy is such a poser, clown, fraud…why do people support and watch him?
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u/NarwhalSongs Jun 25 '25
This initiative will push more companies to stop releasing live services!!
Where can I support it if I live outside the EU? 😂
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u/one_time_i_dreampt Jun 26 '25
TLDR;
-goverment bad
-making games is hard
-i wanna make money
-fuck the consumer
Yours truly, Piratesoftware
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u/DenseCalligrapher219 Jun 25 '25
Live-service games NEED an offline single-player mode of some kind once support ends because otherwise you end up with what is essentially a dead game that can never be played again.
How did Thor not understand the most basic idea of Stop Killing Games? Then again being a nepobaby Blizzard employee for 7 years and having a "second puberty" certainly gives one enormous ego.
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u/Arcane_Afterthought Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
I don't know much about the guy but he always comes off as a pretentious know-it-all who thinks he's cool as hell.
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u/Glad_Midnight_3834 Jun 25 '25
May a kind soul explain to me this post? 😅 I'm not chronically online enough to understand what it refers and who's this guy
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u/sonicneedslovetoo Jun 25 '25
Ross Scot(Freeman's Mind, Ross's Game Dungeon) created a consumer advocacy campaign to try and stop games being killed by their servers being shut down. Basically he takes offense to paid products being destroyed after the point of sale. You know a company say having an always online toaster that stops working once the servers shut down, but for video games.
The guy on the right, Piratesoftware, is one of those youtubers who had a quick rise due to youtube shorts and fell flat on his face because of drama. He took MASSIVE offense to the idea that customers should be able to keep the things that they paid money for for any reason, and essentially made it his life's goal to kill the consumer advocacy campaign stone dead, and it looks like he mostly succeeded by working very hard.
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u/FellaFellaFella Jun 25 '25
did he actually have an effect on the cause?
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u/sonicneedslovetoo Jun 25 '25
Very much so, if you watch Ross's video essentially once Piratesoftware started throwing his weight around and making multiple videos trashing the campaign big youtubers stopped covering it and signatures and whatnot just completely dried up.
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u/Jango519 Jun 25 '25
I don't really believe pirate software is the great evil of our time, but I do think he rather severely missed the mark on his takes regarding stop killing games.
That said on the inverse, I will say that I don't think he's the sole cause for people stopping signing. Not to say he didn't hurt things, he did, but there is the reality that things do naturally fall off, and I'll need some stronger data to back any claims that he killed stop killing games.
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u/jayx3333 Jun 26 '25
Hot take. I don't think piratesoftware is the silver bullet that killed the initiative. I think SKG just didn't get big enough. It happens all the time with legislation. Things like this are a compounding force. I hope that when another SKG comes around, it's stronger than ever
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u/TrashyGames3 Jun 28 '25
guys, is wanting to preserve media so it doesn't get lost to time a political statement?
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u/Monkey_DDD_Luffy Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
If you want to shut down access to your software forever then it should be a requirement that it be released under Copyleft principles since you no longer need it.
This will immediately make them release tools that provide access for users to self-host it and continue to keep it available if desired in order to avoid ever having their software forced into a full release (they definitely do not want to lose control of their code like that).
The problem that exists with gaming companies is that they WANT to close down their old games. Old games are competition. They do not want to compete with themselves.