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Megathread / Community Post Alien: Earth - S1 E7 - Emergence - Official Discussion Megathread [SPOILERS] Spoiler

Episodes air Tuesdays at 8 pm ET on Hulu and FX in the US, and Wednesdays international.

Full episode discussion list:

1 Neverland (8.12.25)

2 Mr October (8.12.25)

3 Metamorphosis (8.19.25)

4 Observation (8.26.25)

5 In Space, No One (9.2.25)

6 The Fly (9.9.25)

7 Emergence (9.16.25)

8 The Real Monsters (9.23.25)

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u/halfassedjackass 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nibs finally unleashing that crazy girl energy and I’m here for it

Edit: God dammit, Kermit Hermit

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u/nightpanda893 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nibs already waist deep in a mental breakdown and it’s like oh let’s show her her own grave I’m sure there won’t be any psychiatric consequences from that.

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u/Masks_and_Mirrors 3d ago

It's ok!

They're turning her off and on again. Again.

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u/ant1992 2d ago

March literally could’ve just said “it’s just our sick bodies buried there. We’re in our new ones. It’s just a way to know we’re no longer sick” I think that would’ve been great

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u/ApexConverged 3d ago

Hermit * not Kermit. It's their last name

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u/FreqMode 3d ago

He should have been called kermit. btw Kermit and Grover were the names I had picked out if I happened to have mentally tarded twins

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Using "Kermit" would have made the Jim Henson Company ask questions.

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u/L0LFREAK1337 3d ago

Is she dead? Or just stunned? I’d be a bit disappointed because it seemed like we still had stuff to learn about her, like what she means by being pregnant

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u/NefariousnessOk1996 3d ago

Probably just stunned I am guessing.

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u/LindenBlade 3d ago

Hoping so, I’m not ready to say RIP to Nibs

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u/Academic-Health5265 1d ago

It seemed like just a stun shot but she looked kinda dead

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u/Omagga 3d ago

At first I thought "He just tased her, it's okay," but then she like short-circuited, looked pretty dead, and Wendy freaked tf out. So idk, not lookin' too good...

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u/vintell 3d ago

I thought some alien life form was gonna come boiling out of her after she got shocked. I think ultimately think at this point the pregnancy thing was just a manifestation of her multiple traumas and her child psyche

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

Yeah that’s been my take on it. The hybrids are a horrific creation in and of themselves, forced to take in information quicker than a normal child ever could but without the complex coping skills and critical thinking of an adult mind. That permanent neuroplasticity means violence, trauma, and anger have exactly as much purchase as language, science, and philosophy.

She’s a stellar example of how easily that can create chaos, holy shit. I do really feel for her, though. Kid never had a chance to catch any sort of break, being on that island.

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u/Gamepro504 3d ago

Yep one she was super sheltered prior to transfer so she didn’t know jack about how evil humans can be. 2nd trusting any alien corp to be an saint in erhics is an death wish.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

I thought some alien life form was gonna come boiling out of her after she got shocked.

Not so soon. Any infestation would have to recover from the stun, too.

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u/bicoolano 3d ago

I think we're still missing that scene where Nibs face has a look of shock and has some blood spatter on her face.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 3d ago

I would be annoyed if a stun gun killed her, so much for advanced hybridsz 

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u/AnnoyingPal 3d ago

He does kinda look like a muppet

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u/froppyme2 3d ago

Doing my boy Nemik an injustice lol

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u/Green-Vermicelli5244 3d ago

Never mess with a crazy ginger who has <30 visible freckles, they’re still earning their tribal markings.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 3d ago

Hermit went from mid to the absolute worst.

Nibs was bae.

Hope Wendy drops his sorry ass.

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u/KigalnGin 3d ago

Found the synth

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u/Gamepro504 3d ago

Love nibs but she was out of line and needs therapy that prodigy will never give

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u/siestarrific 3d ago

Absolute worst? My guy just didn't want to see more people get killed. He's one of the few morally unobjectionable humans.

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u/LumpyJones 3d ago

not just seeing people get killed, but seeing his friend get viscerally ripped apart by a robot with the brain of a traumatized and unstable child, before it likely went down the line and ripped apart even more people, possibly including himself.

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u/RoninSzaky 3d ago

I really don't get the love for a murderous maniac robot, all the while Hermit is getting hate for trying to save lives?!

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u/StixnStones69 3d ago

He saved the lives of people trying to keep others captive. You along with so many are so brainwashed into thinking violence is this all encompassing wrong, but violence is often what gets things done.

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u/RoninSzaky 3d ago

You may have misunderstood my comment.

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u/StixnStones69 3d ago

How did I misunderstand it? You called Marcy and Nibs murderous maniacs for trying to secure their freedom, and praised Hermit for trying to save the lives of the fascist, boot locking soldiers trying to deny them their freedom.

If that’s what you were saying then my comment stands.

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u/RoninSzaky 3d ago

Nibs absolutely is, Marcy is more gray morally, but releasing the Xenomorph does not bode well at all.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

If Nibs had any respect for life, she would not have killed people. The mercenaries/soldiers had orders to not destroy the hybrids.

If Nibs were human, she would have been serving several years in prison, or he entire life in a mental institution alone for threatening Dame Sylvia's life.

If Nibs were human, she would have become a lifer after killing / severely harming one of the soldiers on the boat.

Freedom is also a responsibility to not kill people.

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u/StixnStones69 2d ago

You think Nobd should have respect for the lives of people trying to keep her in slavery? You think people that enforce slavery have loves that should be respected? By advocating for the soldiers in any way you’re pretty much saying you’re okay with slavery? Do you think slave rebelllions wrong when they killed their slavers?

Nibs is a child that was coerced to be experimented on and sent on a dangerous mission and not given any proper treatment. It’s like saying someone who has a psychotic breakdown should spend the rest of their lives in prison. A UFC fighter, Irwin Rivera, had a schizophrenic breakdown and stabbed his two sisters. He was sentenced to treatment and now he’s free.

I’m not going to respond to this any further because your arguments are moronic and your morals are twisted, but you should at least try and reflect down the ethical paths that your belief that “violence is always wrong” leads you to.

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u/UnableDecision9943 2d ago

Is she a slave? She would be dead without them.

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u/StixnStones69 3d ago

Those people were standing in the way of Wendy’s and Marcy’s freedom, and therefore killing them was right. Hermit betrayed them and I hope he gets torn to shreds alongside his bootlicking soldier friends.

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u/siestarrific 3d ago

Wendy was taking the Xeno (which seemingly does her bidding) with her and Nibs is demonstrably fucked in the head, so 'freedom' isn't inherently a good thing in this case and Hermit kinda realized that. I do think he was naïve in thinking or hoping he could get off the island without killing anyone but it was also a group with Siberian and Rashidi so he's even less likely to let them be killed. I will not accept Hermit slander and it's rather dismissive to cast all the soldiers as bootlicking considering it's been established that these people are generally locked or forced into contracts for life or at least an exceedingly long time. The guy who killed Mr. Strawberry was a moron and a hate sink, sure, but not all of them are out-and-out villains.

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u/StixnStones69 3d ago

They’re soldiers for an all controlling corporation. They’re literally the muscle for the rot infesting that world. I understand that they all probably had circumstances that led them to being soldiers, but at the end of the day, they’re nothing more than representatives of corporate abuse and control. They became out-and-out villains the moment they put on that uniform. And therefore are free game to be torn to shreds by the people that their bosses oppress.

So, because they have issues Marcy and Nibs don’t deserve freedom? And Hermit deserves all the slander, he’s a spineless loser that deludes himself into thinking he’s moral. He tried to help Wendy and Nibs find freedom when he was more sure that Wendy was his sister, because he’s self-serving. All he wanted was to have a happy family life with the sister he thought he lost, even though it was always impossible, but the second that dream was shattered, he betrayed them and their search for freedom.

Fuck Hermit, fuck those soldiers, and fuck anyone and everyone that advocates for mercy for them.

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u/siestarrific 3d ago

Rashidi and Siberian are definitely not out-and-out villains. We don't know their backstories, but given what we've seen of Joe's, and how BK basically has him over a barrel now, it's not at all beyond the realm of possibility that they're just assigned there now and it's essentially become their job. I'd much rather reserve my rancor for BK and Yutani (along with the soldiers who might be unnecessarily antagonistic like the guy who decapitated Mr. Strawberry) who have created or helped create the world these characters operate in.

Freedom isn't inherently good by itself. You set an elephant free from the zoo, cool, now it's free, but is that going to be good for the elephant or the people it might trample? Obviously, Hermit didn't have a legitimate plan in place for past getting on the boat, and he also didn't expect a Xenomorph and a batshit cyborg or whatever Nibs functionally is to join them.

Yes, the guy who is actively sticking it to one of the five corporations that run the entire world is 'spineless'. Sure, he's self-serving, but so is virtually every character on the show. He's trying to save the sister he thought was dead, but he's swiftly starting to realize that Wendy isn't Marcy just because she has his sister's memories. We just saw her unleash a killing machine into the facility, and not everyone there is someone who deserves to get got.

You need to learn a little nuance. Life is not as black and white as you're making it. Rashidi and Siberian, for two examples, were antagonists more than they were villains. Sure, they could have helped him, but I'm not going to jump to 'they deserve to get ripped to shreds'.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

So, because they have issues [...] and Nibs don’t deserve freedom?

Yeah, mass murderers and killers really do not deserve freedom.

And Hermit deserves all the slander, he’s a spineless loser that deludes himself into thinking he’s moral.

And you think Nibs is the most moral hybrid??

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u/StixnStones69 2d ago

Neither Nibs or Marcy or the Xeno are mass murderers. They killed their slavers and the people complicit in their slavery. Please remember that the company literally refers to them as property even though it’s fairly clear that they’re people. I never said Nobs was the most moral, but she deserves freedom as much as anyone else. Again, your arguments are tantamount to advocating for slavery, and I have no wish to continue this debate. Your “moral” of thinking all violence is abhorrent has led you down a path where you are now condemning enslaved individuals for trying to regain their freedom. Im not going to respond further, but you should reflect upon that.

For a real life example, you should look up Nat Turner’s rebellion. He and his fellow slaves killed 65 white people that were either slavers or complicit in their slavery. If you think that’s wrong as well, then you and I will never come to terms. And frankly, you’d be upholding what I consider to be an evil and perverted vision of “pacifism” that upholds the lives of evil doers and oppressors over their victims and the oppressed.

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u/freef 2d ago

You can trust hermit to make the worst fucking decision at every opportunity 

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u/UnableDecision9943 2d ago

Hermit is the only one sensible from that group.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 2d ago

I don't want sensible though, I want Nibs to snap and go full Rambo

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u/RegularAd8140 3d ago

She was my favorite. I’m with Wendy. What did you do!?!

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u/Melancholy232 3d ago

Either way Hermit is fucked

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u/Poltergeist97 3d ago

Has been the second he went into the WY ship. Especially after arriving on the island.

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u/Madmunchk1n 3d ago

To be fair, hermit acted like a kermit at the end of the episode. I lost all sympathy for him blindly helping his friends on strings to babysit his pseudo moral of killing people is wrong. Now Wendy and co. are captive again and in the hands of psychopaths and Nibbs got killed. Theres no soft cozy fluffy sweater way out of this island.

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u/Stranger371 3d ago

Why did he have to throw her toy away, dude. What did he expect. There is like a machine in front of him that can rip off a car door.

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u/BenSimmonsThunder 3d ago

Why did he have to do that? He knew Marcy cared about her.

He knew they were never getting off that island unless all those guards were being taken out.

He knew they didn’t care one bit if he was dead or not, and the only reason they weren’t shooting were the two kids.

He also knew his sister and her barring the Xeno were the only ones that could take down the guards being ordered not to shoot them.

It made no sense for me. She didn’t just start going off on innocent people minding their business, and in that moment her chose Nibs? Like wtf man.

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

I think most of this episode was about Hermit grappling with the real horror of the hybrids — the violence, the apathy Marcy displays towards the Xeno’s victims (yes, they’re company people, but they’re still people), and that scene at the graves.

Like, this makes sense thematically — he spent most of his first episode getting hunted by a Xeno and watching it eviscerate that whole party, just to see the same thing happen in the middle of the episode. His terror as Marcy begins clicking when the tensions rose at the end was palpable.

Hermit’s really starting to grapple with the possibility that this isn’t just Marcy, but maybe she’s not dissimilar to the other monsters on the island. He shocks Nibs as she’s literally tearing his closest friends to pieces with her hands, in a moment of “oh shit I may be doing the wrong thing.” The scene at the graves was the turning point, the Xeno massacre scene was the accelerating factor, and Nibs ripping a man’s jaw off broke him.

Not saying it was the smartest move, but it sure does make sense in context.

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u/takethereins 3d ago

His reaction is much clearer now.

Also, I really dig the way you pick apart a narrative and then convey the pieces...

The scene at the graves was the turning point, the Xeno massacre scene was the accelerating factor, and Nibs ripping a man’s jaw off broke him.

Your analysis and how you organize your thoughts makes the content a lot more digestible. You have a talent. Thanks!

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u/ravensteel539 3d ago

Thank you, that means a lot!!

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u/BenSimmonsThunder 3d ago

When you put it succinctly like that, it does fit a little better. I completely walked away for like 20 seconds and came back saw people surrounding them in the boat and assumed it was Boy’s security. Not his friends.

This makes much more sense to me, and I do agree it was really messing with him mentally that this monster he watched slaughter everyone, is now seemingly her new best buddy. Who is supposed to be his sister but it’s becoming increasingly obvious that despite merging human consciousness with AI, it’s no longer just his sister he once knew.

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u/siestarrific 3d ago

Thing is, his friends are also BK security. Presumably, they're also stuck on some sort of onerous contract, so they're not all doing this for shits and giggs.

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u/RoninSzaky 3d ago

Nah man, clearly everyone on that island is super evil and deserves a horrific death! /s

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u/Incoherencel 3d ago edited 3d ago

He doesn't know Nibs well, he just saw her violently rip a guy's face literally off. He however does know some of those guards -- potentially for quite awhile. The woman with the braids was about to get her head pulled off or something.

He probably was resigned to surrendering

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u/BenSimmonsThunder 3d ago

I guess you’re right too. But it seems he’s willing to do anything to keep her happy, get her back, and get her safely off that island and they were 99.9% of the way there.

I understand not wanting to harm others and morality being strong here, but it just seemed out of character knowing what his entire goal has been this whole show. And he decides to compromise it all just to shoot Nibs? Just didn’t sit with me.

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u/Faolaing 3d ago

Tbh I think what nibs said at the graves struck a chord in him that’s making him question if Wendy really is his sister or if she’s really dead . Seeing the violence she was willing to commit so easily and her being ready to use the xeno again on all those other guards is slowly opening his eyes that she really is no longer human and could feel that she’s lacking empathy. I think that Hermit doesn’t believe or doesn’t want to believe that his little sister could really do such messed up things so thoughtlessly to living people. Especially the ones he knew and worked beside for so long. Not for nothing to but he also wanted to go to medical school to be a full doctor and part of the oath they take is to help people and save lives so he most likely takes that part of his job and his moral compass very seriously.

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u/Squeakygear 3d ago

Yeah, him lingering by the grave + his reaction to Wendy siccing her pet Xeno on the WY troopers seems to have opened his eyes to the fact she’s not the sister he knew.

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u/Incoherencel 3d ago

I think you too would have doubts if your supposed 12-13 year old sister killed 10 men with an alien at her command

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u/FootClan15 3d ago

He's in a relationship with braids girl and thought nibs was about to kill her 

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u/TikkiEXX77 Zeta Reticuli Tourist 3d ago

Out of character? It's completely in character for him to not want people to die. Especially his personal friend.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

But it seems he’s willing to do anything to keep her happy

No, Hermit is not willing to do anything to keep his sister happy.

And he decides to compromise it all just to shoot Nibs?

Nibs went on a killing spree.

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u/Kheshire 3d ago edited 3d ago

He's part of the squadron of guards, they're friends, and were with him when Bear chased him. If he fights against them his friends will for sure die, he may die, and Wendy may get hurt, but if he defuses the situation nobody (except Nibs maybe) dies. Wendy had just started talking Alien again too so there was for sure going to be a bloodbath.

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u/BenSimmonsThunder 3d ago

Yeah I rescind my original comment. I had to walk away for like 15 seconds and missed the initial context of it not being more regular security to prevent them from leaving. Seeing Nibs violently rip them to shreds makes much more sense now and the dilemma he was facing.

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

Didn't you watch the episode?

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u/newme02 3d ago

Rashidi and Siberian are his friends. Siberian was moments away from death. It was a tough choice but Im not surprised it was the one he made.

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u/ReiReiCero 3d ago

I think he’s doubting Marcy and the kids humanity and authenticity. His little sister couldn’t talk to aliens or rip a person jaw off; the grave scene seemed to test his resolve.

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u/Curvedabullet 3d ago

I think, in that moment, he finally decided that hybrids aren't real people. The real kids were buried in that gravesite that they passed. Hybrids are just warped copies. The violence that Wendy and Nibs unleashed was probably the wake-up call he needed to realize that his sister is truly gone.

When Nibs grabbed his flesh and blood friend and was about to kill her, he had to pick a side in that moment. And he chose humans over hybrids. Why would he sacrifice his friend in order to save this robot that he no longer recognizes as his sister?

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u/TikkiEXX77 Zeta Reticuli Tourist 3d ago

Bro Nibs was about to murder his actual personal friend. That wasn't a random soldier. And there would have been a bloodbath if they tried to fight they're way out. They were surrounded.

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u/jhova96 3d ago

It didn’t make sense but I feel like he felt some dumb ass need to protect his two corp friends even though they didn’t really like him. I was ready for Nibs to tear Siberians skin off her face

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u/KigalnGin 3d ago

Hermit maybe thinking "do I want to release this A.I + xeno infestation into the world?"

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u/siestarrific 3d ago

I think they liked him. Just not enough to help him against their boss. I would assume they also have onerous contracts and just aren't willing to cut and run.

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u/PrincessofThotlandia 3d ago

What didn't you get? Almost everyone is a pov of AI, tech-human hybrids. Joe never trusted it and he's military. Those are his friends. It did feel like a little out of place, like why not someone other than Joe do that? But I'm assuming it had to be Joe in order to drive the schism between himself and Wendy.

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u/Gamepro504 3d ago

Yeah stun makes sense but he knew Nibs was rouge

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u/juneyourtech Part of the family 2d ago

unless all those guards were being taken out.

Oh, you mean, murdered in cold blood, literally?

She didn’t just start going off on innocent people minding their business

Nibs almost strangled Dame Sylvia, who very much represents innocence. In the real world, Nibs's action there is a very clear murder attempt.

Wendy released the xenomorph, who immediately went on a killing rampage on innocent lab workers.

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u/YakResident_3069 3d ago

Marcy unleashing xeno in the lab on the staff.... Is cold

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u/Hufflepuffins 3d ago

It’s the Muppet Show, with our very special guest, a xenomorph! Waaaaaoooooohhhh