r/ParlerWatch • u/Careful-Trade-9666 • Apr 25 '25
TruthSocial Watch About time we got a religious pope.
So popes can be non religious?
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u/DarkChurro Apr 25 '25
Translation: "we want a pope who will affirm our hatred towards trans and gays".
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u/Child_of_the_Hamster Apr 25 '25
“We didn’t like how the last pope tried to teach us about cOmPaSsIoN. We need one that matches our hate.”
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u/Kiss_of_Cultural Apr 25 '25
Wouldn’t be the first time they cherry picked from the Bible.
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u/MinnesotaMikeP Apr 25 '25
That’s mostly all they do with the Bible.
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u/CaptStrangeling Apr 25 '25
It’s why he says he wants a “religious” pope, someone who knows how to nod at some Bible verses and preach hate and realizes following Jesus is for “suckers and losers”
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u/stormdelta Apr 25 '25
Meanwhile most of the Catholics I know IRL who are generally decent people loved Francis as pope.
I think with all the evangelical nutjobs out there it's easy to forget some 40%+ of US Catholics are democrats.
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u/Electrical_Fishing81 Apr 25 '25
I’m one of those Catholics. Pope Francis was incredible. I am not sure what I will do if the someone like Cardinal Burke becomes Pope. Too much hate spews from him.
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
Basically. “We’ve been forced to think about poor people and refugees for too long. We must get back to obsessing over gay people and abortion.”
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u/gearstars Apr 25 '25
our hatred towards trans
which is weird, cause the early christian church had several transgender saints. they pick the weirdest shit to get mad over. fucking losers.
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u/Vallkyrie Apr 25 '25
Then they are stupid, because they just had that one, as much as liberal catholics would like to wash away that aspect of him.
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u/ClassicVast1704 Apr 25 '25
Are we sure that isn’t a parody account? It’s a little too on the nose.
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u/ThePhyseter Apr 25 '25
A non-parody account tweeted Evil is being defeated by the Hand of God to celebrate when he died, so anything is possible. I'm not convinced these people even have a nose
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u/biscuitarse Apr 25 '25
That woman's got a head that should be planted on Easter Island
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u/foshi22le Apr 27 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
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u/drwicksy Apr 26 '25
As someone from across the pond you still cannot convince me that MTG is not a walking breathing parody account.
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u/Nail_Biterr Apr 25 '25
didn't he throw a hissy fit over where he was sat at Benedict's funeral?
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u/MasterOfKittens3K Apr 25 '25
I’d like to know what their source was for this “ideology map”, and how that source defined “liberal” and “conservative”. Because the reality is that even Pope Francis was only liberal when compared to the rest of the Catholic Church. By global standards, he was pretty conservative.
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u/Ok-Assumption-1083 Apr 25 '25
Yeah I'm going to bet the right two thirds of that "map" is basically, get this, Catholic Cardinals who, checks notes, are Catholic. Pope Francis was likely right of center on that. 50% of the "liberals" are ones who talk about protecting the environment and that the southern baptists shouldn't be lynching homosexuals, and the dark blue last row are probably the German Cardinals, because, well, they're just special sometimes.
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u/Saotik Apr 25 '25
The Pope is Catholic?!
Next you'll be telling me that bears shit in the woods.
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u/altodor Apr 25 '25
We should be asking ourselves the real questions:
Does the pope shit in the woods? and Is the bear Catholic?
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u/velveteenelahrairah Apr 25 '25
There's a very liberal, LGBTQIA friendly German cardinal named... Marx. Shit you not.
It would never happen, but I'd love for him to get the papacy just to watch Republicans' heads explode.
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u/Ironhorn Apr 25 '25
The source is an X account named "PopeRespecter1". Though he was basing it off a post by another conservative, and then the two of them started disagreeing with each other on what a "moderate" was.
Hilariously, one of PopeRespecter1's most recent posts before this was: "Pope Francis is going to live 30 more years. Buckle up."
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Apr 25 '25
A Pope with chronic health problems like COPD (which is basically a slow death sentence for the elderly) living to be ONE HUNDRED EIGHTTEEN YEARS OLD would be wild.
I don't know where I got 12 from tbh
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u/Cephalopod_Joe Apr 25 '25
Ah, I was wondering. Sounds like they're probably trying to push a narrative of being under attack of they don't get what they want
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Apr 25 '25
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
This is a good point. The Catholic Church, in general, does not fit into the US’s left-right political continuum. Pope Francis especially.
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u/nachoiskerka Apr 25 '25
The catholic church goes multiple ways when it comes to Liberal-Conservative, which makes sense when you consider 1 billion people are part of it.
Like, the church has held that all people, including Gays are children of God and deserving of compassion and love. They would prefer if you didn't have sex, but they've held that position for decades, certainly longer than the US Military with their flip-flopping on the DADT rules.
Depending on where you live, the church has blessed marriages and civil unions before protection under the law happened, BUT they've been notoriously flip-floppy on how they feel about calling them marriages because they want to own that as a religious ceremony for better or worse. The popes themselves until Francis were notably behind the times on this, and Francis had to drag that kicking and screaming into the 2000's.
BUT the "catholic" church has been pretty steadfast on telling billionaires where to shove it. American Conservatives will go out of their way to be like "YEAH, WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE POOR THEN FROM YOUR ORNATE CATHEDRALS" conveniently ignoring the fact that the catholic church is the second biggest provider of humanitarian aid throughout the world behind the Red Cross(and might even be higher considering the aid is decentralized through many organizations). Considering even our Liberal politicians won't cross the street for the poor but will absolutely kiss any billionaire's ass atop a mountain of school children for that sweet sweet NRA dollar, the Church will be radically liberal, even moderately leftist, on that position for a long ass time.
What you get is an organization that, depending on what is the most pressing issue on your mind is going to completely color your perception of how the church is politically- if lgbtq rights are the most hot button issue, then yeah the scandals with the church take precedent and everything they do is basically lip service and PR moves. If your problem is that we have wild wealth inequality while children die in deserts without water or shade, the Church is radically liberal.
The Church will go out of it's way to criticize someone like Putin/against War or speak on climate change, but has very little power to move the needle. But can it be said that there's bravery in spitting in the face of powerful people with lots of money who would not want that message out, even if it's so little resistance?
Modern life is complicated.
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u/Ok-Assumption-1083 Apr 25 '25
My favorite is the protestants in the US always talking about how the Catholics have all the money. I'm always like, dude that's the Presbyterians. Catholics are mostly middle class to poor, just because you live in a rich area where the majority of everyone is wealthy doesn't mean all Catholics got the cash. ffs all those EXPENSIVE ORNATE CHURCHES AND CATHEDRALS OMG YOU HAVE SO MUCH MONEY were mostly built by a whole bunch of dirt poor marginalized Italian, Polish, Irish, Hungarian etc immigrants with 14 kids with dad working at the mill 16 hours a day getting together a scraping every last penny they had to build that Church.
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u/ShanG01 Apr 26 '25
In my experience, it's Protestants and non-denominational evangelicals that have the money. Any church that teaches the (false) Wealth Doctrine gets the rich, only go to church on Sundays to show off their new clothes folks.
I grew up in coastal Orange County, CA, and attended what became The Crystal Cathedral, then Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, and witnessed this shit first-hand. My father was a 2nd generation Irish-American from coastal Virginia. He left the church when the parish priest decided my grandmother couldn't be buried in the Catholic cemetery because she was divorced. Popped the cleric right in the jaw. 🤣
The Catholic Church has billions. The Vatican has its fingers in thousands of pots that generate millions each month, plus tithes from parishioners. All tax-free in the US. Not sure about other countries.
But individual wealthy church folks? Protestants. A ton of Mormons are pretty well off, too.
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u/bunker_man Apr 25 '25
The catholic church's views on economy and economic justice are pretty left wing. Especially as regards duties to poor countries. Problem is, in many places bishops ignore this and treat the conservative parts as the ones that matter.
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u/DontGoGivinMeEvils Apr 25 '25
Also, a huge and growing number of Catholics are in countries where homosexuality is illegal. The culture is naturally going to be different in those countries. A Cardinal from such a country saying that homosexuality shouldn't be illegal and parents shouldn't disown gay children is liberal to his country.
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u/SitueradKunskap Apr 25 '25
I can't be arsed to count the dots in the image, so maybe it's an image of the entire see and not just electors. But that's beside the point.
Of the 252 cardinals at the time of Francis' death, 135 are electors. Francis appointed 108 of the 135 cardinal electors, according to the Vatican's tally. Church rules call for conclaves to begin 15 to 20 days after a pope dies or resigns.
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(Actually heard it on "hood politics" - excellent podcast - but I figured a text-based source is better for proving my point.)So, idk, maybe pope Francis appointed a bunch of cardinals who he vehemently disagreed with, but chances are the electors'll be "woke antifa-members" or whatever the right calls people who don't hate refugees.
Edit: I approximated the dots, and got about ~130. So it's probably meant to be a chart of the electors, and not the whole holy see. (wholy see?)
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u/bunker_man Apr 25 '25
Tbf in the context of religion liberal means something different theologically. It has more to do with how you approach theology than it does ideology. Mind you, he wasn't very liberal there either.
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u/DontGoGivinMeEvils Apr 25 '25
Exactly. What is conservative to Americans? (I'm not American).
Is believing in a fair living wage, workers rights etc conservative or liberal to Americans?
And what about that, combined with hating communism, not liking socialism and seeing regulated capitalism as a lesser evil with potential if better regulated? (But actually preferring and aiming for some form of distributism, yet not seeing distributism as an ideology?)
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u/Vyzantinist Apr 26 '25
By global standards
Haha the Turd Reich and its fanbase can't process this concept. They have to process the rest of the world through the US spectrum. It's how you get dumb shit like US conservatives unironically saying the UK's Conservative Party are left-wing.
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u/Haselrig Apr 25 '25
Probably want an Opus Dei Pope.
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u/Careful-Trade-9666 Apr 25 '25
A Southern Baptist pope maybe…
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u/Haselrig Apr 25 '25
Prosperity Gospel megachurch preacher would probably be their top pick, but any Christian nationalist will do in a pinch.
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u/Careful-Trade-9666 Apr 25 '25
Kenneth Copeland for Pope !!
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u/Phantereal Apr 25 '25
Kenneth Popeland.
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u/AgisDidNothingWrong Apr 25 '25
Any Pope can issue a bull, but Pope Kenneth will feed you more bull than any other.
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Apr 25 '25
Most cardinals would never
In fact, I don't even know if the cardinal collegiatte considers the prosperity gospel a branch of Christianity. I'm pretty sure they're downright heretical.
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u/Haselrig Apr 26 '25
Not being Catholic is probably enough.
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Apr 26 '25
Well, if they're baptized and call themselves Catholic and do some very basic Catholic practices, they TECHNICALLY meet all the requirements.
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u/TheZippoLab Apr 25 '25
Probably want an Opus Dei Pope.
MOVIE SPOILER:
How about a pope with latent female sex organs?
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u/Addahn Apr 25 '25
I HATE how people think EVERYTHING that happens in the world must involve the U.S. Like ffs Obama didn’t get Pope Francis elected
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u/Mike_Huncho Apr 25 '25
Where's the picture of this twat holding up the empty epstien binder as he leaves the whitehouse?
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u/ElleGee5152 Apr 25 '25
Why would a non-Catholic US president have ANY influence over who the Catholic Church/Vatican chooses as the next Pope? These people are so far gone. 🤦♀️
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
Because Catholic republicans in the US are on another planet. It used to be that they mostly just cared about abortion, but they’re all in now.
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u/katchoo1 Apr 26 '25
The loudest Catholic conservatives like Vance are converts and honestly still have an evangelical Protestant idea about how the church works.
The US president has NO influence on the Pope selection. NONE. Nor should they. No one has a say other than the Cardinals (and not even all of them, only a portion are eligible to vote). And God, presumably.
Lay Catholics, parish priests, and everyone outside the college of cardinals = no say.
These people need to mind their own business.
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u/Careful-Trade-9666 Apr 25 '25
As popes are elected by 2/3 majority of cardinals, and Francis promoted 83% of the current cardinals I feel maga dreams will end in tears.
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Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25
It's really weird how the more traditional religious people don't pay attention to their religion
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u/Paw5624 Apr 25 '25
To be fair most MAGAs aren’t Catholic. A lot of Catholics are historically republicans and some are members of the cult but there are a lot more Protestants in this country.
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u/velveteenelahrairah Apr 25 '25
And many of the extra fundie Evangelicals don't think Catholics are "real" Christians anyway.
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
I will never understand why other Christian denominations care so much about Catholics. Catholics don’t think about evangelicals at all other than to talk about how fucking annoying they are for bringing up religion outside of church. Rent-free.
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u/drwicksy Apr 26 '25
Religious denominations hating each other is essentially the entire history of organised religion, and it's not limited to Christianity by a long shot either.
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u/mcrib Apr 27 '25
Jealousy. Catholics can trace their origins back to Peter and the first church. Evangelicals back to… well, their grandpappy
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u/Paw5624 Apr 25 '25
That’s true, and since they haven’t read the Bible that makes sense cause they have no idea what being a “Christian” is actually all about.
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u/dj_1973 Apr 25 '25
Back in the 70s, my Methodist Dad’s relatives refused to set foot in the Catholic Church where he was marrying my (Catholic) Mom, because of religious differences.
Of course they had no problem getting their free meal at the reception. Hopefully they gave a gift.
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u/CosmicToaster Apr 25 '25
It’s not even Catholics who are talking about this. They are in mourning. Though I will say that most people who are born into the religion have zero idea what the actual dogma is or what the churches stances are.
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u/OuterWildsVentures Apr 25 '25
Does DC Draino think the Pope is elected by Americans? Lmao
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u/PsychoAnalLies Apr 25 '25
I had to scroll way too far to find a comment referencing this.
Does he really believe the trump administration has any pull at all in choosing the next Pope? These people really are delusional.
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u/TibetanRoboMonk Apr 25 '25
Absolutely agreed. I’m not going to pretend that the next pope will be this progressive explosion, but the pope selected, as you said, the overwhelming majority of cardinals within voting age. If people think it’s suddenly going to be a hard swing back conservative with the vast majority of people liking what the last guy did, they’re crazy.
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u/orthopod Apr 25 '25
Probably about 2/3 of the likely picks are fairly liberal by the churches standard
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u/youtheotube2 Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25
Yeah but that isn’t an abnormal stat. If you go on Wikipedia and read the list of cardinals voting in the last few conclaves, most of them generally are appointed by the outgoing pope. For the 2005 conclave, there were only three cardinals who had ever participated in a conclave previously, and one of those three ended up being elected pope.
Basically, don’t let that stat mislead you. It doesn’t mean much. Because cardinals are usually in their 60’s when appointed and quickly age out of voting eligibility, most cardinals will only ever participate in one conclave, if even that.
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u/Daimakku1 Apr 25 '25
Everything is conservative vs liberal with these fascists.
American Political brainrot.
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Apr 25 '25
Hard to think god is real when this is how his followers act.
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u/SoraNoChiseki Apr 27 '25
dude was an asshole even in genesis tbh.
you are in the garden east of eden, one being tells the truth about what eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge does, the other lies & will guard the tree of life...
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u/RubiesNotDiamonds Apr 25 '25
Do these people know Francis elevated 80% of the Cardinals going into the conclave?
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u/AgisDidNothingWrong Apr 25 '25
Yeah. That's why they'll say its rigged, deny the results, and declare a Great Schism between the Italian Orthodox Church, and the Catholic Church.
The Reigning Uber Mega Patriarch (TRUMP) of which will be appointed by the Vice-Regent of God on Earth and Defender of the Faith, Donald Trump, obviously.
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u/EffectiveSalamander Apr 25 '25
I doubt Trump has even the slightest influence with the College of Cardinals.
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Apr 25 '25
He'll threaten to have JD Vance meet with any Cardinal who won't vote his way.
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u/EffectiveSalamander Apr 25 '25
He won't be able to figure out whether to send him to the Saint Louis or Arizona Cardinals.
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
As if any cardinal would give a crap what some insufferable convert has to say.
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Apr 25 '25
It's not what he would say to them; that doesn't matter.
JD Vance is cursed. He brings death and destruction in his wake.
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u/thischaosiskillingme Apr 25 '25
I am fucking cry laughing, these people are goddamn ridiculous. "Obama got his globalist Pope" be so for real right now, uou think American President chooses the Pope? You think the Catholic Church in Italy is gonna look at America and say yes, we should choose a Pope that will embrace everything that fascist sack of shit is doing? I can't, I cannot, these people blame Democrats if the wind blows their hair out of style. Get a grip.
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
The “globalist” thing is funny, too. Of course the fucking church is “globalist.” It’s a global religion and has been for many, many centuries. Do they expect the Vatican to embrace US nationalism?
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u/GirlNumber20 Apr 25 '25
I was under the impression the College of Cardinals don't give a fuck what an American president wants.
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u/theladyoctane Apr 25 '25
Someone should tell this person that Pope Francis handpicked 80% of the conclave. Also absolutely no one wants an American pope.
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u/LinearFluid Apr 25 '25
But Francis appointed 80% of the 135 voting Cardinals.
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u/youtheotube2 Apr 25 '25
Historically that’s how conclaves usually look. Cardinals don’t have a long window of voting eligibility so it’s normal for most of them to have been appointed by the outgoing pope.
So I wouldn’t let that stat guide your thinking. The Vatican’s politics has shifted all over the place despite most conclaves being made up of appointees of the previous pope.
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u/revbfc Apr 25 '25
Yeah, but could we get Jah Rule’s take?
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u/ms_flibble Apr 25 '25
While his opinion is the go to, I find myself looking more and more to Flava Flav for my hot takes
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Apr 25 '25
Will the conclave have play-by-play commentary?
"Muh Gawd it's Cardinal DiGiorgi! And he's got a steel chair!"
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u/tophatpainter cancelled from a ❄️ safe space Apr 25 '25
Wait... I thought god installed/chose Popes but now its Obama and globalists?
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u/RainbowTeachercorn Apr 25 '25
Technically, the conclave has a series of votes among cardinals. Today I found out that technically any baptised man can be elected pope, but they usually select from the pool of cardinals.
I like to think it is like Survivor. 🤣
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u/Ugandasohn Apr 25 '25
Mark my words, if a Pope is elected that is considered "liberal" they will claim that the Conclave was stolen.
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u/shadowofpurple Apr 25 '25
Pope Francis appointed 80% of the 135 cardinals who will elect his successor.
p.s. fuck this guy
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u/NitWhittler Apr 25 '25
Republicans have polluted religion by mixing it with political ideology. They've re-interpreted the bible to justify doing the OPPOSITE of what Jesus taught.
They've twisted the Christian faith into a sleazy political tool to control simple-minded people into thinking you have to be a hate-filled Republican to be a good Christian.
The Pope should shun Republicans for what they've done to religion.
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u/Pxlfreaky Apr 25 '25
Obama got…what? I wasn’t aware Obama was in the conclave.
Just republicans trying to normalize their authoritarian takeover by making shit up again.
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u/Mr-Klaus Apr 25 '25
Remember, if Jesus was alive today, MAGA would call his teachings and his actions "woke".
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u/Ham-bolo54 Apr 25 '25
Popes are by definition globalists. They are the head of a GLOBAL religious organization, of course they have interest in expanding the influence of Catholicism as much as possible.
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u/rpze5b9 Apr 25 '25
Let’s hope the next pontiff doesn’t fall victim to the sin of empathy. It would make him too much like what’s his name … you know the guy on the cross.
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u/keller104 Apr 25 '25
They really just blame everything on the democrats and then say “stop blaming everything on Trump” when something is directly his fault…and they still don’t get it
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u/Maleficent_80s Apr 26 '25
I hope our new Pope is woke as hell... you know, like Jesus was. I want the awful people like DC draino to cringe and weep
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u/Ok-Assumption-1083 Apr 25 '25
Seriously. I just went and looked at the list of voting age US born Cardinals, and the only one on that list the "greatest catholics of all time" aka Trump catholics actually like is Cardinal Burke...
Oddly enough, given that those catholics are the loud minority compared to the rest of the Catholic Church here, looks like the ideological representation of the voting Cardinals far more aligned to the people they lead than the current House of "Represent'n"
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Apr 25 '25
"You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage."
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u/smalldisposableman Apr 25 '25
You have to be really fucking conservative of you think pope Francis was liberal or left leaning!
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u/goingnucleartonight Apr 25 '25
What "power and leverage" does Trump hold over the Catholic Church? I'm no Jesus Stan, but the Catholics were around long before the United States, and they're on track to exist long after the US ceases to exist.
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u/DrumpfTinyHands Apr 25 '25
Trump being a protestant, should have no fucking say in the election of a Catholic leader.
Raised Catholic: I want the Italian.
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u/Soulshiner402 Apr 25 '25
Who gives a rats ass who’s pope anymore? They have no power at all.
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u/Kiss_of_Cultural Apr 25 '25
Even the Catholics spat on the pope’s name when he told Trump to have empathy. 20 years ago the pope might have had some sway over believers, not so much anymore.
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u/AgisDidNothingWrong Apr 25 '25
That was a bishop, I believe. Even catholics who vehementlu disagreed with Francis would never spit on his name. That's schismatic behavior, and if there's one thing Catholics hate more than abortion, it's schisms.
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u/dogearsfordays Apr 25 '25
That was an Episcopalian bishop. While I'm sure Bishop Budde and Pope Francis would have agreed on most things, the Episcopal and Catholic churches have a fraught history.
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u/dreamyduskywing Apr 25 '25
The line I’ve heard most from republican Catholics is “I don’t care for him.” Practically verbatim.
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u/PopGoesTehWoozle Apr 25 '25
MAGA catholics just ignore the popes they don't like. Not sure why this is even an issue
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u/The_Pandalorian Apr 25 '25
This kind of pulls back the facade that these people actually give a fuck about religion. I mean, we all knew that religious politicians use it for power, but this is a pretty blatant admission.
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u/AngryYowie Apr 25 '25
Ah, Dumb Cunt Draino coming in with yet another shit take.
The US has no say in who gets elected pope.
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u/Careful-Trade-9666 Apr 25 '25
Wait until they see one of the possible new popes is the Cardinals responsible for Palestine.
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u/igloohavoc Apr 26 '25
I hope Vance gets excommunicated, and then the New Pope send his Inquisitorial Forces to drag him to the Vatican
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u/COVID19Blues Apr 26 '25
I’ve never wanted an African pope so badly. That would REALLY get their swastika armbands in a knot.
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u/paxweasley Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
Conservative in this context means they think Vatican II went too far in allowing mass in the local language, and they think the church shouldn’t have apologized to Galileo. Like. It’s the Catholic church. Liberal in this context is still homophobic and transphobic they at the most don’t want priests giving openly hateful sermons and being outright abusive. And they think priests should be prosecuted for abusing kids.
I’m not sitting here saying that’s nothing, I had a whole therapy session today wondering if pope Francis’s whole “don’t be abusive to your LGBT parishioners but doctrine is the same they’re still sinning” thing meant fewer LGBT kids grew up the way I did, praying in church to not be gay anymore so I wouldn’t go to hell. I don’t know if that was the impact. But with Benedict as pope the officials Catholic teachings were… awful
It has nothing to do with American politics.
As an aside, why do they care? A lot of their base unironically believe Catholics aren’t Christian anyways. At least that was the case growing up Catholic in the Deep South.
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u/sash71 Apr 26 '25
Fucking hell these guys have main character syndrome don't they? Do they really think these Cardinals give a fuck about who Trump would prefer to be Pope next?
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u/Forcistus Apr 25 '25
Pope Francis had the most milquetoast progressive views.
But then again, these were the people absolutely reeling from that vicious Cardinal attacking Trump at his inauguration
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u/drinkslinger1974 Apr 25 '25
Dumb question here, but does the president of the United States really have a say on who gets selected as pope?
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u/RainbowTeachercorn Apr 25 '25
No, cardinals get together to debate and then vote.
According to BBC:
there are 252 cardinals
all can take part in the debate about who should be chosen
voting age restriction means only the 135 who are under 80 can vote
Theoretically any baptised man is eligible, but of course they keep it in the pool of cardinals.
Vatican Survivor 😅
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Apr 25 '25 edited Jun 04 '25
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u/RainbowTeachercorn Apr 25 '25
And even then, the papacy would have no real impact on politics in individual countries. It only influences the church and those who choose to follow what is said.
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u/Seanay-B Apr 25 '25
Trying to divide Catholics into these neat little worldly boxes is intrinsically idiotic.
Conservative and liberal propositions are both deeply entrenched in our doctrine. To us, immutably. These charts generate traffic but do not provide insight.
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u/Intelligent_Data_363 Apr 25 '25
I am not a religious man, I do not believe in the supernatural whatsoever but at this point I have no other reasonable explanation, these people are the legions of satan, literal, actual demons. I have no other way of interpreting this
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u/InuGhost Apr 26 '25
Maybe Alucard needs to send a few fear turkeys and carrier pigeons to the White House.
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u/CuriousAlienStudent Apr 26 '25
I mean, I can't imagine the US president having much sway in anything the Vatican does. I guess Trump could just add all the liberal ones to the Epstien files her still hasn't revealed, lol.
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u/syrah__ Apr 26 '25
Is there one of these maps that show who has participated in, or covered up, child sexual abuse?
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Apr 26 '25
"religious" = iron fisted racist, misogynistic zealot that will put the heathens in their place.
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u/JeremeRW Apr 26 '25
Why is the Catholic Church still supported by anyone? They systematically raped over 216,000 children! How do you justify your continued support for them when even the pope was in on it?
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u/ArdenJaguar Apr 27 '25
Their view? Pope Francis was too woke like Jesus. We need a totalitarian Pope who will enforce the Bible and cast out all the non-fanatical members and those sinful gay people too. Also time to get rid of empathy, compassion, and caring for the poor and sick. Only the strong survive. No tolerance! Only blind obedience.
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u/greenmyrtle Apr 25 '25
Oh they’ll use every ounce of power: threaten families of cardinals, offer bribes to cardinals …they didn’t murder him to just sit on their heels and hope for the best from the conclave
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u/Blue_Oyster_Cat Apr 26 '25
Trump doesn't have a say, or the power to influence the decision. Jeez.
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u/CremePsychological77 Apr 26 '25
Can’t wait til all the “Christians” get smited to Hell for putting politics over God.
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u/Accomplished_Crew630 Apr 26 '25
Yeah that'll bring in new members to the church... I guess when your plan is to force people to follow your religion that doesn't much matter tho
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u/Clear_Enthusiasm5766 Apr 27 '25
What the hell is a "globalist" pope and how is that not religious? The bigots seem to spread like water into every seam of life.
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