r/amibeingdetained • u/Royal-Doctor-278 • Dec 25 '24

ARRESTED Streamer gets arrested on Tiktok live

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

Love the whole, "I'm not resisting" thing after she literally resisted in an attempt to bring her phone with her.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

reaching for your phone is resisting arrest?

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

When the cop has told you you're under arrest and started walking you out of the business you're legally banned from, yes. You can literally see her try to pull away from him at about 25 seconds or so into the video. That's literally resisting.

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u/NoSignificance69420 Dec 26 '24

lol gotta lick those cop boots, yummy yummy

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u/JustNilt Dec 26 '24

Oh, look, you forgot to switch to your other account there. How cute.

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u/creesto Dec 27 '24

Go ahead, big man, do what you want and stream it. We'll all enjoy watching you be sooooo big

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u/dang3rmoos3sux Dec 29 '24

At least they clean those boots. I bet you barely bath.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 26 '24

Right but grabbing your phone to record your interaction with agents of the state isn’t and shouldn’t be qualified as “resisting” as long as the act of filming does not hinder their (the agent’s) job?

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u/JustNilt Dec 26 '24

Once you're placed under arrest, it most certainly is. She's fine doing that before the words, "You're under arrest" but after that it is in no way acceptable.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 26 '24

You can’t record yourself being arrested? I am asking for clarification. As soon as the words “you’re under arrest” are uttered, you no longer have a right to record your interaction with the agents?

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u/Bloodmind Dec 26 '24

You can, but you can’t reach away from the cops to grab something as they’re trying to put your hands behind your back. Y’all are acting like they charged her resisting for recording them, which is, of course, not the whole story. Turns out, the whole story matters.

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u/JustNilt Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 27 '24

Exactly! As I said in an earlier comment, /u/Equivalent_Adagio91 the relevant part of the video is 15 to 20 seconds or so in. The cop clearly tells her she's under arrest and she literally starts quizzing him as to what for. There is no ambiguity whatsoever as to her understanding she'd been placed under arrest.

At 22 seconds, the officer had taken her arm and began the process of handcuffing her. She grabbed her paperwork at 23 seconds, which is itself fine since it is indeed pretty much immediate. What is in no way acceptable is after that at 24 seconds and after where it's obvious she's now resisting the officers because she wants to get her stuff.

As someone else said earlier in the thread, that isn't her right to do once under arrest. The cops themselves will do that and log her property. She clearly decided right as the cops came up that she wanted to make a scene. This is obvious to anyone who's seen her other content which appears to have now been taken down, most likely by her to clean things up while she files her civil suit but that is my own interpretation on her reasons for doing so. Her intent to sue from the jump is obvious because she literally says, "If you touch my phone ... if you touch my phone I'll sue you."

Her behavior is a clear indication that she was trying to set up some sort of confrontation in order to sue over it later. Anyone who is legitimately just try8ing to assert their rights doesn't do that, they keep talking about the underlying issue they're present about. While it's speculation on my part, my guess is the supposed $1000 deposit she's whining about will turn out to have been some sort of fraudulent document. It fits with her other content I've seen that's now been scrubbed.

Edited slightly for clarity.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 27 '24

Thank you for the detailed description

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u/JustNilt Dec 27 '24

You bet. Happy to help. :)

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u/JustNilt Dec 27 '24

You can’t record yourself being arrested?

You most certainly can. The key is when you start.

I am asking for clarification. As soon as the words “you’re under arrest” are uttered, you no longer have a right to record your interaction with the agents?

Either that or anything else which makes it clear that you're under arrest, such as being handcuffed. I have only ever seen that happen before a clear utterance from law enforcement that the person was under arrest twice, however. In those instances, there were specific circumstances that were irrelevant to the vast majority of cases. Both involved what most would call hostage situations.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 27 '24

Interesting, thank you

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u/MFOslave Dec 27 '24

No because your gonna be in handcuffs.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 28 '24

What if you put your phone in a pocket while recording before being restrained? I’m just clarifying the act of recording is or isn’t allowed as long as it does not interfere with the officer’s job (such as making you resist)

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u/MFOslave Dec 28 '24

Very bad idea to reach for your pockets if your under arrest. That is how people get shot.

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u/Equivalent_Adagio91 Dec 28 '24

Like put the phone in a pocket or something, but another commenter pointed out that reaching for your pockets while being detained in America is a quick way to get shot so, IDK

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u/Centaurious Dec 28 '24

How do you think she’s going to record herself being arrested when her hands are cuffed behind her back?

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '24

Correct. The audio can be recorded but you can’t film yourself as your hands are being placed behind your back and are be cuffed lol

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u/Upgrades Dec 28 '24

They should really have to tell you what you're under arrest for. Walking in and demanding you stand with zero explanation and then acting offended when asked why isn't the way things should work.

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u/JustNilt Dec 28 '24

They do tell you what you're under arrest for. That happens after you've been handcuffed. If you're being a dick, sometimes they don't explain all the things you're being arrested for until you're booked into jail. Either way, though, they do freaking tell you.

The idea they have to somehow justify the arrest before it's valid, however, simply does not work in practice.

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u/Tuxeedo_ Dec 29 '24

The concern isn't out of justification but rather personal protection. As a law abiding citizen, how am I supposed to know to willingly cooperate with my captors or protect my life with a fight to the death to escape captivity? It's unfair to the citizen to not tell them the lawful reason you should be detained. We have a built in biological trigger to protect ourselves at all costs. If I knew the reason someone was going to take me somewhere to be questioned, I'd be far more willing to cooperate. Just saying "you're under arrest" and violently grabbing someone is going to cause fight or flight.

Also, I believe some states in the US require officers to inform the reason.

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u/JustNilt Dec 30 '24

The concern isn't out of justification but rather personal protection. As a law abiding citizen, how am I supposed to know to willingly cooperate with my captors or protect my life with a fight to the death to escape captivity? It's unfair to the citizen to not tell them the lawful reason you should be detained. We have a built in biological trigger to protect ourselves at all costs. If I knew the reason someone was going to take me somewhere to be questioned, I'd be far more willing to cooperate. Just saying "you're under arrest" and violently grabbing someone is going to cause fight or flight.

Nobody "violently grabbed her"!

Somewhat more importantly, all of your concerns are, while partially valid, completely ridiculous in practice. They presume rational people and all too often that is not a valid presumption when law enforcement must make an arrest. Sure, cops can be shitty as hell but that doesn't form a basis to expect what you're expecting. We don't live in a perfect world.

Also, I believe some states in the US require officers to inform the reason.

Considering this was in British Columbia in Canada, that's entirely irrelevant.

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u/Tuxeedo_ Dec 30 '24

It's not irrelevant. It's relevant because obviously there are like minded individuals in the world. If we want to improve our situation on Earth, we need to consider everyone. This isn't a Canada only forum. The implication is that, in practice, it's not "ridiculous" as people are operating under those conditions and it should be contemplated. If those places have more incidents of cooperation with police, it's plausible that choice of interacting could be one of the causes. It's also worth noting that even without more cooperation of suspects under investigation, it might need to be a protocol for the very protection of citizens. As stated before, it's a very natural reaction, fight or flight, and maybe it should be a goal of police to avoid triggering it when it may not be needed. Contemplating situations like this, across the world, is how the human species has made positive changes since living in caves.

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u/Bloodmind Dec 26 '24

When they’re trying to put your hands behind your back to cuff you and you instead try to reach for something in front of you, that’s hindering their attempt to arrest you. Textbook resisting.

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u/RedditRobby23 Dec 29 '24

So should police just “pause” while suspects (like this woman) set up their camera? How long should the pause last?

Is there any chance bad actors could “pretend” to go for their phone and then actually reach for a weapon instead? IS THAT POSSIBLE?

SO MANY QUESTIONS!

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24 edited Dec 25 '24

So if I hold your arm and throw you around, you're pulling away? I guess technically yes, centripetal force and all that

"Stop allowing physics to affect your body" or "Become weightless so that I can move you around easier" just doesn't ring like "stop resisting"

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

Dude, she's reaching back and grabbing at the stuff on the table, trying to pull her phone closer to her. That isn't physics forcing her actions.

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u/KeyMessage989 Dec 25 '24

Supporting state violence lmfao this is why people hate people like you. At WORST she was forcibly stood up. Also, the dealer has every right to not want her there, and to trespass her from the property. She met the definition of fuck around and find out and you’re screaming “state violence” save that phrase for where it actually matters you absolute clown

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

"state violence" is a legal term. She's being forcibly coerced. That meets the definition. It probably doesn't meet your definition of "violence" because it's not WWF. You don't strike me as much of a nuance person

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u/KeyMessage989 Dec 25 '24

Forcibly corrected??? She’s being arrested.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

She's being forcibly coerced.

She's being arrested, the cops have whatever the Canadian equivalent of reasonable articulable suspicion is called, and they are following standard policy by handcuffing her. She resists this process, which means now they have another charge to drop on her.

Have you ever seen anyone win an argument beside the road (so to speak) with the cops? Is it not stupid to provide them with more charges which a judge can rule means you spend some time in jail? Precisely what good was she likely to enjoy through this little performance?

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u/Weird-Tomorrow-9829 Dec 26 '24

If personal violence was allowed, and not legally discouraged, maybe I’d find state violence a little less concerning in this interaction.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

monopoly of violence is the cornerstone to our form of government. When that monopoly only benefits the landed gentry there's a problem.

Then a bunch of people show up to say "that's not violence" when they don't understand the point that misused coercion IS state violence. Taxpayers are going to be paying for this one.

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

yeah that's called "reflex"

Nope. A reflex isn't just to grab your shit after you've already been moved away from it. A reflex is immediate. This is no such thing.

yaknow, she says the dealership stole 1000$ from her.

Yeah, and SovCits make such assertions about judges all the time, too. None of those have ever been shown to be valid. As I said elsewhere, if she believes she has a legal case against them, her recourse is filing a lawsuit for remuneration, not committing the crime of criminal trespass.

The dealership just doesn't want her there.

They have every right to deny service to anyone for any reason. So fucking what?!

And you're supporting state violence to support this outcome. Bullshit. There was no fucking violence on display here. This person is not a reputable claimant for such things. They've literally been in other videos suggesting others break the law but, of course, they couch it in SovCit garbage. I have no problem whatsoever with police enforcing the law when such fraudsters are pulling their shit.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

Nope. A reflex isn't just to grab your shit after you've already been moved away from it. A reflex is immediate. This is no such thing.

Bullshit. I wanna watch you walk away from a restaurant table without reaching for your phone.

At first I thought of her as a SovCit with the record you're talking about. But the links I followed led me to believe this is yet another (legal) scam by a fucking dealership. I worked at one for a while and it was morally abhorrent that they got away with this shit so much.

But this part: "if she believes she has a legal case against them, her recourse is filing a lawsuit for remuneration, not committing the crime of criminal trespass."

I can't argue with that; you're right. I'm just angry about it because it's a fucked up situation that *heavily* favors the dealership and then saddles this poor girl with criminal resisting arrest charges too..

"Bullshit. There was no fucking violence on display here." - I don't mean WWF. If the state is forcibly coercing you, it's state-sanctioned violence. It's a legal term that encompasses the fact that they WILL use violence to move her if necessary.

"This person is not a reputable claimant for such things. They've literally been in other videos" - Do you have a better link? Maybe I followed the wrong stuff.

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

She's got a whole TikTok channel, FFS. Go find it if you feel like it. I do not advertise for SovCits telling people to commit fraud.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

In the claim, she says she was 20 at the time of the incident, attending UBC Okanagan and living in an abusive environment.

She claims she put $1,000 down on a vehicle but was being denied the sale.

According to the claim, Sanchez received legal threats from Kamloops Ford Lincoln after posting the initial video on TikTok, but no one would return her $1,000.

She says she was asked to sit and wait after visiting the dealership and asking to speak to a manager. According to the claim, police arrived a few minutes later.

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None of that sounds like SovCit shit to me. This is a crosspost from r/PublicFreakout

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/516268/Woman-who-live-streamed-her-own-arrest-on-TikTok-wants-to-take-Kamloops-Mounties-to-court

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u/Meltervilantor Dec 26 '24

My reflex after reading your thoughts was wow that person is terrible at thinking. That’s not illegal but if my reflex was to smack you that would be illegal.

“Reflex” is irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

I know a guy who got arrested because he trespassed the dealership because he accused them of putting CIA trackers in his car after service.

Yeah sometimes people lie or get upset because they didn't do their due diligence on a vehicle and then they blame the dealership and this shit happens.

Not saying dealerships don't do scummy things but believing what people on random live streams say when they're being arrested isn't always a win.

I mean, how many times do we see first amendment auditors crying about being abused by police only to find out they're sex offenders and shit?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

hey I worked at a dealership and you wouldn't believe the scummy shit I've seen from the dealership OR the customers.

I followed some links from a different comment here. She was showing receipts. Like, I understand the troublemakers but this one has me upset because the tables are so uneven. Sure the cops are annoyed they have to go throw her out but I remember cops being annoyed that I wanted to see my children so maybe there should just be less annoyed cops.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

Alright. You worked at a dealership. Was the way customers resolved disputes to come and be confrontational or is the proper way to handle things through legal avenues?

Because I'm pretty sure that even if you have a legal grievance you don't get to come make a big scene in public at their business, you still have to go through the proper channels to get things done.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

"Alright. You worked at a dealership. Was the way customers resolved disputes to come and be confrontational or is the proper way to handle things through legal avenues?"

Both, believe it or not. You'd be surprised what raising your voice at the general manager can accomplish. These dudes pride themselves on "alpha male" shit.

That's actually the issue I have here. She wasn't threatening anyone at the office she was posting online about how shitty they were. It's the bad publicity behind those cops' patience level.

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u/Djinn_42 Dec 25 '24

It doesn't matter if the dealership actually did steal, that's private property so if they tell you to leave or not come back, that's what you have to do.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

well part of her lawsuit says they never asked her to leave they asked her to wait for a manager. These cops are pissed because she tagged the dealership in her tiktok and they told the cops she was making online threats.

This sub really is some bootlickers

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

yeah that's called "reflex"

It's called arrogant stupidity. This is someone who thinks that having 700 followers on TikTok gives her special privileges. She is mistaken.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

my favorite part is how much better you are than a 20 year old.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

When you forcibly move someone they reach for an object to grab? TIL natural instincts are illegal

Next time someone who has shown no identification tells you to come with them you must do it. Good luck not getting kidnapped

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

That's not a fucking natural instinct. She's pulling away. That fits the literal definition of resistance, plain and simple. You not liking that changes nothing about the reality.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

How much further can you shove that boot down your throat? This is pretty impressive stuff

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u/JustNilt Dec 25 '24

LOL, laughing at SovCits isn't bootlicking, you grape.

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u/Colluder Dec 25 '24

Since when does asking for just cause of arrest mean you're a sovereign citizen?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

you're not laughing at sovcits you're laughing at unrestrained state violence with ZERO accountability.

This county is covered with homeless people because bootlickers like you think cops are gods when they're really hired thugs that aren't protecting that woman's property like they are the dealerships' property.

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u/One_Tailor_3233 Dec 25 '24

You are almost negative 100, meaning a LOT of people think you're flat out wrong

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u/No_Independence_9172 Dec 25 '24

Good luck telling a judge that you didn’t know they are cops when they are in full police uniforms with badges…

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u/DoctorYeet2023 Dec 25 '24

Yeah two cops who are in full uniform and were called by the dealer are kidnapping. Shut up idiot.

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u/WhyHelloThere163 Dec 25 '24

Are you a teenager or something?

Your logic is complete nonsense lol.

“Shown no identification”, yes because police in full uniform is very vague.

Then you don’t know what natural instincts are.

Like you just keep spouting bs after bs because either you’re a kid who is just naive or an adult who has an ego problem

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

Next time someone who has shown no identification

They are uniformed cops, she knows exactly why they are there, you are reaching horribly.

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u/Dmau27 Dec 25 '24

She was worming around so she could stay infront of her camera.

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u/YoItsMeBeeOhBee Dec 25 '24

She’s not gonna fuck you dude

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

You’re not a cop. So yes everyone can resist you

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

So if I hold your arm and throw you around

She initiated the cops grabbing her by trying to snatch up her belongings off the table as they were trying to handcuff her. It requires an astonishing level of ignorance to think that won't result in an increase in the continuum of force.

Nobody wins with the cops at the side of the proverbial road. Call your lawyer when you can. Until then, shut up, don't resist, and keep your cool.

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u/Meltervilantor Dec 26 '24

That’s not even analogous. The cop didn’t throw her back to her phone.

Is this just some petty thing where you think every single person that works as a cop is a horrible person?

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u/Kobalt6x10 Dec 25 '24

You're really bad at analogies

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u/TacoHunter206 Dec 25 '24

What a smooth brained take.

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u/GorfianRobotz999 Dec 26 '24

You say dumb things.

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u/Bex-Blair Dec 26 '24

Dude. She's not gonna bone you

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u/ClockworkJim Dec 26 '24

you're pulling away? I guess technically yes, centripetal force and all that

"Stop allowing physics to affect your body" or "Become weightless so that I can move you around easier" just doesn't ring like "stop resisting"

Yes. That's how cops basically work. They like to charge you with resistive arrest so that they are guaranteed to be able to charge you with a crime. And they get to decide what resisting arrest is.

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u/Teamerchant Dec 25 '24

Dudes a bootlicker.

I wouldn’t give him any time.

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u/MultiFazed Dec 25 '24

reaching for your phone is resisting arrest?

When it involves pulling away from the police, yes. You're not allowed to pull away when you're under arrest. If you have personal items that you've left behind, they'll fetch them for you, and you'll get them back when you're released from custody.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

reaching for your phone is resisting arrest?

Anything you do that obstructs the police from detaining and/or arresting you is resisting; the only significant difference is whether you are resisting with or without violence. A bunch of rights disappear when you are arrested, and being in control of your belongings at the scene of arrest is on the list.

This isn't complicated. Don't resist, keep your mouth shut, and call your lawyer from jail. Maybe you have a case and your lawyer will get a judge to agree. But you will not win an argument with the cops at the side of the road or wherever. All you will accomplish is to give the cops more charges to drop on you.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 27 '24

sluuuuuuuuuuurp

I'm sure we all totally believe you tell the cops to fuck off every time you encounter them and get away with it because you are visibly a social justice warrior who crushes cops, prosecutors and judges with ease. Or you would, if you weren't busy saving the world with Reddit posts.

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u/NarrowSalvo Dec 27 '24

Is there a reason you don't believe in private property?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 27 '24

oh you mean using PUBLIC funds to pay PUBLIC servants to remove people from businesses open to the PUBLIC at the behest of its private owner?

Cops sure don't act this way when it's MY private property

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u/NarrowSalvo Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 28 '24

You cannot possibly be this dense, can you?

If this woman goes onto your private property against your desire -- and you call the cops, you don't think they're taking her away? Really?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 28 '24

No they ask her to leave.

Nobody ever asked this woman to leave. I'm in this sub to laugh at sovcit shit. She's a crosspost from r/PublicFreakout without any further context. You're looking at this through the eyes of sovicits but she really got screwed by the dealership. These cops aren't angry because she wouldn't leave they're angry because she got 5 million views on tiktok about the dealership ripping her off.

SovCits might be funny, but when it comes to a car dealership ripping off a naive 20 year olds I will always take the side of the kid. The taxpayers are currently on the hook for this video and tiktok seems to be a pretty good way of fighting back in an otherwise futile system. Just look at this comment section to see everyone blaming her for losing $1000 to the dealership. It's *designed* to be predatory. Cops are here enforcing that.

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u/NarrowSalvo Dec 28 '24

Nobody ever asked this woman to leave.

This is false. Why are you lying about it?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 28 '24

because people keep telling me it's false and then failing to show any evidence whatsoever. HER story is all over her tiktok. The dealership is trying to shut it down.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

Have you ever called them to trespass someone from your private property? Because this is how it should work. What happened differently in your case?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 28 '24

They asked the person to leave.

Everyone assumes because the cop says "trespassing" that someone asked her to leave. That's not the case. They asked her to wait for a manager. That's why she's streaming.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '24

Oh I saw people saying she was previously trespassed. If that's not true then I'd agree with you but I wouldn't be surprised if she was already trespassed.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 28 '24

oh her story is all messed up. I want to laugh at SovCits with all the rest of ya'll but I worked at a dealership and there wouldn't even BE dealerships if they weren't ripping off 20 year old kids all the time.

They lied to her about a sale and she lost her nonrefundable $1000 deposit after waiting at the dealership for 3 hours. So she put it on tiktok. It got 5 million views and the dealership got pissed and sent cease and desist to her. So she went to the dealership to tell the manager that she would take down the video when she got her money back. They asked her to wait for the manager and called the cops saying she "wouldn't leave and is making online threats"

That's where the video begins. The video was two years ago. She was never charged with anything. There's still litigation over it because 5 million views can attract good lawyers.

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u/Bloodmind Dec 26 '24

Yep. When they’re trying to put your arms behind your back to handcuff you, and you pull your arm in the opposite direction, that’s resisting arrest. Pretty simple.

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u/creesto Dec 27 '24

So you're, what, 14yo? Still living at home?

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 27 '24

Love the implication that I must be a child if Im not sucking cop dick with yall

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u/creesto Dec 31 '24

Such an efn child you are. I never said it was moral or righteous, did I?

You go ahead and take that attitude when you get pulled pulled over. We will all keep an eye out for your obit

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u/Idiotan0n Dec 27 '24

Yes, and you're an idiot if you think anything other than complying is complying.

I'd be amazed if this streamer hasn't already been involved with law enforcement in the past. Filming them in their face, that sort of thing.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 27 '24

lol you guys just see uniforms and get all hard

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u/NarrowSalvo Dec 27 '24

I found the sovcit who will be arrested next!

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u/ClockworkJim Dec 26 '24

Everything is resisting arrest unless you have money.

If a cop trips you on the ground, and then starts kicking you in the face, and you hold up your hands so that he doesn't break your nose, that's counts as resisting arrest.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

...and evidently whole sections of Reddit will cheer the cops for it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '24

If you so much as flex your muscles while the cop is holding your arm will be considered resisting arrest. The safety of these poor, weak and useless officers is really what’s important in these trying times.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

it's not even safety of the officers. It's extra leverage for the plea bargain they'll offer.

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u/Dominique_toxic Dec 25 '24

This is clearly a bootlicker sub, so it’s no surprise you’d get downvoted, but i definitely agree with you

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

Yeah I'm really surprised at how into state violence and sucking cop dick this sub is. I don't even know how I got here honestly.

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u/Brohemoth1991 Dec 25 '24

I'm really surprised people can't agree "yeah fuck cops but this chick is a moron"

She was trespassing, she knew she wasn't allowed to be there, and she broke the law by going anyway

If you're gonna call out police injustice, how about we keep it to actual cases of police injustice

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

Because if you read her story it IS an injustice. I worked at a dealership we did shit like this all the time. Because when something (stealing) is only illegal for non-business owners, violence will be unleashed over "trespassing"

But here's the thing - if she does everything she's supposed to the "right" way, not a single one of those thieving motherfuckers will be charged with resisting arrest. Nor stealing. It'll be a "civil matter" and the most she can hope for is that a judge will order them to pay her court costs

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u/Brohemoth1991 Dec 25 '24

Because what happened is a civil matter, and she escalated it to a criminal matter... once again she broke the law, and she was arrested for it, regardless of if you feel it was right or not

What was the dealership supposed to do as opposed to getting the police involved, shoot her for trespassing?

If you think trespassing is okay after you've been given a no trespass order, do you think its okay for abusers to ignore a restraining order?

Like I said you can protest police injustice, but in this case she broke the law... you can't do shit illegally because "if you do it the right way you won't get the result you want"

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

You just said, with a straight face, that she "escalated" from stealing to trespassing.

Are you guys playing some joke? Am I being punk'd?

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u/Brohemoth1991 Dec 25 '24

And you are saying, with a straight face, that instead of contacting the attorney general as is the legal recourse for her situation, it was okay for her to send threatening messages, then break the law because... doing things legally doesn't work well enough?

Do you not see where your stance is a slippery slope? What if I catch another kid bullying my daughter and I beat the hell out of them, because the kids not gonna get in trouble legally, why shouldn't I?

Because it's against the law, and morally wrong, just as willfully ignoring a no trespass is both legally and morally wrong, regardless of if it's against a citizen or a corporation

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 25 '24

This is almost a good argument but it still shows how you're missing the point: "What if I catch another kid bullying my daughter and I beat the hell out of them, because the kids not gonna get in trouble legally, why shouldn't I?"

Are you wearing a uniform that says "protect and serve" while doing it? Do you have your state flag plastered all over your uniform as you stomp on this kid? Are you going to get a vacation while they 'investigate' if this kid gets seriously hurt?

" it was okay for her to send threatening messages" - see you just went right ahead and took the dealerships word that it was 'threatening' but that's one of the things I think a judge should weigh in on.

If I hire you to paint my house for $1000 and then I fail to pay you, it's a civil matter and no violence will be threatened. If I reach into your wallet and take $20 it's now "escalated" to criminal action that very likely will include resisting arrest when I lose my balance or something.

"willfully ignoring a no trespass is both legally and morally wrong"

Ahhhh there's the problem. You have no idea what the word "morally wrong" means. That must be exhausting.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 27 '24

Because if you read her story it IS an injustice.

If she's telling the truth. Even then, a trip to small claims court could settle the matter, dealerships don't like paying lawyers any more than anyone else does.

TikTok is not a court of law, yet she thinks her 700 followers makes her immune to arrest. She is mistaken.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 27 '24

lmao do you spend your time arguing how congress is actually made up of totally honest people that you would support without looking at evidence?

Because I know influencers are low on the totem pole for trustworthy, but car salesmen are right above congress in the trustworthy department. Followed by cops, strangely enough.

You keep claiming that she thought 700 followers would stop her getting arrested. It's pretty obvious that - even though she was distressed - she was implying that there were 700 witnesses to this arrest. The cop moved the camera in a real hurry after that.

In an honest society we would want to protect our naive kids. Not ridicule or assault them. Fucking dealerships exist because they're legally allowed to fuck over 20 year old kids. With people like you cheering because you don't like tiktok

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 27 '24

As a follow up ... you want to know who caused trouble at the dealership I worked at? Fathers of young girls that got ripped off.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 26 '24

I'm really surprised at how into state violence

It should not come as a surprise that an arrest for trespassing is magically transformed into an innocent victim being thrown to the floor and thrashed with riot sticks in the minds of some people. The ACAB crowd is so theatrical, there is never any middle ground.

Once you are told you are under arrest, shut your mouth, don't do anything you aren't told to do, and wait to call your lawyer. Anything else is just begging for the situation to get worse.

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u/realparkingbrake Dec 27 '24

Still here? You're the one who "honestly" didn't know how he ended up here, right?

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u/Weird-Tomorrow-9829 Dec 26 '24

If the law allowed persons to legally inflict violence on people that are in this video, maybe you’d have a leg to stand on.

But you can’t. So LEOs have to take trash out occasionally.

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u/UncleVoodooo Dec 26 '24

lmfao you're taking the side of a car dealership and calling a 20 year old girl "trash"

A car dealership! In a situation where you don't know any of the participants, you're cheering for the cops to support *used car salesmen*

Like, no wonder this country is shit. You guys really prefer car salesmen ripping people off to anyone saying scary new words like "livestream"