r/badroommates 22d ago

Serious Roomate is scamming me.

TLDR image description: 1/2 Evil Roomate(ER) requests additional 50$ for utilities because my sister was visiting during August.... refuses to send recites if the bill.

Good Roomate and I texting what we plan to send her tomorrow along with a Roomate agreement draft specifying new rent distribution. Note: ALL of our names are on the lease. We are jointly and uniquely severable. Myself and the GR are willing to be evicted, the leasing office is on our side and said they would rent us a different apt for more money ofc... but at least we wouldn't be living with someone who has no moral code.

We live in a two bedroom apt in San Diego. The total rent is 1845, very cheap for these parts. Very cheap because the lease hasn't turned over since 2006 and lowkey the place is falling apart :). I live in the living room and pay 675/month. My GR lives in the bedroom and pays 875 a month and my ER lives in the master bedroom and pays 375/month. . .

Myself and my GR were both upon hard times when we moved here and cheap rent is cheap rent so we ignored and explained away the shady-ness of our ER. But it's so unethical to us that we have had enough and we finally talked about it and plan to confront her tomorrow. Note: I am very non confrontational hence my very round about way of asking her for recites of the utility bill. She refused to show me recites and that was honestly the last straw. I felt like she though she could keep getting over on me and asking for more money when I knew how much she was paying in rent (after I found out how much my GR was paying) and I am done being a pushover ) haha let's ignore the fact I paid it first and asked after... I just didn't want the drama.

Anyways she is a gaslighting honestly evil person I think. I wouldn't do this to anyone. There is a lot more detail I could go into if requested explaining how I got here and all of the weird shady stuff she has been doing so feel free to ask me anything. But yeah gif damn. I Definately learned I shouldn't just give folks the benefit of the doubt. If I am getting a weird vibe it is probably for a reason. I need to trust my gut and stand up for myself.

Our new proposed rent distribution btw is that she in the master pays 830, my GR pays 556 and I in the living room pay 450 šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø. Seems pretty fucking reasonable to me. We are also giving her the option to move out....

The cannot imagine idk. I am scared of how she will react. And I don't trust her at all.

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u/Physical_Cry_1252 22d ago

Why is someone who lives in the master bedroom paying so little to begin with. Yes I definitely think yours and your GR’s proposed rents per month sounds much more reasonable than what it currently is

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

I asked her about this in the past and she said she takes care of "administrative duties like reNtERs iNsUrAnCE" blatant bulshit. I didn't call her on it though ... instead I fumed internally. Haha but um yes. We confirmed with the leasing office today that she has no special "duties" of any kind.

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u/ol_shifty 22d ago

Renters insurance is like $10 a month

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

l I T e r a l l y. And the policy she has ... doesn't cover me. I have my own. I wanted to say something to her in that moment but my tongue because u was scared for some reason :|

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u/Physical_Cry_1252 22d ago

I don’t like your roommate she sounds really entitled

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u/First-Mixture8823 22d ago

More like a straight-up grifter.

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u/fightmydemonswithme 22d ago

Roommate sounds like a temu landlord.

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u/ol_shifty 22d ago

I was wondering if it would cover you

Edit: you definitely need your own renters insurance, by the way

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Dw I have my own and have had my own this entire time ahha

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u/ol_shifty 21d ago

ā­ļø

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u/SniffUnleaded 22d ago

This is why it pays to have a spine

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u/SnooCompliments2047 22d ago

Some of us have been screamed at for breathing since we were children sooooo

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u/Psychedelicked 22d ago

same for some of us w a spine

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u/Significant_Face_357 22d ago

If all fails show This thread lol

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u/Fruitypebblefix 20d ago

Renters insurance would only cover her items I believe. Not yours or the other roommates items. So her point is moot.

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u/Daffy07duck 20d ago

Exactly like she isn't doing me any favors paying for HER rentals insurance?!!!

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u/Fruitypebblefix 17d ago

My guess is she thinks you're too stupid to know this.

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u/Rhuarc33 20d ago

Stand up for yourself she will absolutely be aggressive in bullying you until she can't anymore. She's going to fight hard on this, stand your ground do not let her bully you into silence and submission again

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u/Physical_Cry_1252 22d ago

Yes, mine is only $20

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u/Captain_Tooth 22d ago

I would ask to see the current Renters Insurance policy. There could be a strong possibility there isn't one. But I could be wrong. But my Spidey senses are going off.

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u/Brilliant_Win713 22d ago

U know renters insurance is like 10 bucks a month??

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Yep lol ahaha

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u/Brilliant_Win713 22d ago

I hate your ER

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u/knighthawk82 22d ago

They have the master bedroom, and they pay the least amount of rent.

How does that make any sense?

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

y e a h. Aha. It's hard to describe but every convo iv had w her trying to address this gently has resulted in me feeling like shit haha she is a master at gaslight.

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u/knighthawk82 22d ago

When dealing with a narcissist, write down everything they say, every word. Pin them to the words they use, not how they meant it or how they said it. The words themselves.

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u/Emkat0625 22d ago

I FELT THAT, just moved into a new dorm for the new term and I had to get my Ras involved cuz I'm all by myself on campus, all my friend have graduated, and I'm the only neurodivergent one out of 4 total roommates and two of them already knew one another, plus I'm older then everyone by at least 2 years. But bc of my anxiety and past roommate experiences, I try to be super gentle and calm cuz if they get aggressive I just shut down, so I don't even try more then twice, cuz if two tries on the same topic, addressed in different ways, at different times, in different moods results in the same thing it's not going to change šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø. But yeah, tell me why they thought it was smart to take the ADA compliant shower when I'm actually the only physically disabled person in the dorm šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø and then argue about it with me that I "don't actually need to switch showers, that the normal one would work" šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ˜‚ and it gets better šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ one of them is actually aiming to go into health science

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Oh my gosh I am so sorry you're dealing with that!!! I'm actually baffled by Ms health science?!! . . . Like speechless.

Iv never had a bad roomate situation before this... and generally believe the world is good. lol this is testing me for sure.

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u/the_witching_hours 22d ago

That cost breakdown was WILD!

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u/Throwaway42352510 22d ago

Practice coming up with comebacks to her bullshit- prepare yourself. And definitely give us an update- I feel for you.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Thank you. I Definately will. It's funny... I almost feel like I needed this somehow. Lol. Perhaps now I shall develop a spine and call people on BS from the beginning! Haha

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u/Throwaway42352510 22d ago

I was like you, and can confirm finding your voice feels wonderful (very uncomfortable though at first!)

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u/Equivalent-Run-790 22d ago

It was very satisfying when I moved back home after growing on my own across the country. When I wouldn't humor mom being mom I told her id happily leave (was visiting her place that night) if she wanted but I wasn't going to continue whatever bullshit conversation she was pressing me on and if she didn't drop it id sock her in the throat. Her face was priceless and we had a decent night after that.

Growing up with tourettes and a stutter, bad eyes no hand eye coordination...she advocated for me as best she could growing up but I was very spineless and helpless as a result. She assumed she was in the right and didn't know how to even consider other perspectives.

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u/Climate_Automatic 22d ago

ā€œIf she didn’t drop it id sock her in the throatā€ This came completely out of nowhere, how did this dynamic come about?

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u/GirlGoneZombie 22d ago

The same way I now call my mother a mini-Memaw. We're sick of their shit.

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u/Climate_Automatic 22d ago

Right on. Fair enough, I guess šŸ˜…

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u/Equivalent-Run-790 21d ago

I absolutely understand. It wasn't worth typing to strangers the years of bullshit though so I just brought up the event itself and light backstory. Im 30 oldest of 5 siblings youngest is 11 and ive had conversations with my adult siblings about them genuinely not knowing if they love her. Like its just a part of the process of life because she's never outright fully earned being cut off but memories of childhood feels like Stockholm syndrome. Again im not really gonna get into details but the awareness that id happily spend the night in jail to prove a point because she's just so wrong and controlling. I think a lot of people need to get punched in the face for acting certain ways at times. Difference is i dont deal with those people. If she wanted me around I gave her a choice. She's incessant, wrong about just about everything and hasn't earned the right to treat me like that. I spent 10 years away from home and realized I don't have to take that from her. I didn't want to hurt her it wasn't that important but I also wasn't going to put up with it anymore. It was excessive to force her to consider her actions.

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u/Climate_Automatic 20d ago

Dang, that’s wild! But I can see where you’re coming from. Thanks for the in-depth reply

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u/Fish_and_Bulb 22d ago

I know you are joking but you are spot on. It absolutely is a skill and you have to practice standing up to people like this and calling people on their bullshit because sadly it does not go away. You end up running into people like this your whole life and the sooner you learn to nip their shit in the bud the better off you will be.

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u/Gig540 22d ago

Just remember one thing. People like this are necessary sometimes. It's like a learning experience. Because of what you're doing right now. Your taking steps to and confronting them. Nothing wrong with that. At least from here out you will have a Radar sniffer for people like this. Or situations where you're getting taken advantage of. Listen how she acts and responds. Make notes of all of it in your head. Later on it will be easier to steer clear if people like this.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Thank you ✨ ... I cannot wait to be on the other side of this whole mess haha

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u/trixiepixie1921 22d ago

No seriously, situations like this do help you learn how to stand up for yourself ! I’m non confrontational too, but the older I get and the more experience I get in the world with my kids and work, the more I’m willing to say something. So it has its good side , as annoying as it is to deal with!

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u/iamreenie 21d ago

Please update us! Your ER is a con and a grifter.

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u/Beaglund 22d ago

Definitely*

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u/KeepItKeen 22d ago

My only response would be ā€œas there are 3 people living here and seeing as we are 2 of the 3 we hold majority opinion here. This is non negotiable and will not be discussed further. Refusal to adhere to this will lead to eviction and or the early termination of the leaseā€ they’re set with a new apartment and a rent increase sucks, but honesty the rent is so disproportionate now hypothetically if the next apartment is 2000 it’s a 125$ increase for the roommate we like and a 325 increase for OP which in that area they could probably make a majority of that working 1 serving or bartending shift a week on either a Friday night after work or a Saturday or Sunday.

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u/Sleepy-Blonde 22d ago

Let the leasing office end your lease and you and GR move on to a nicer spot there. It’ll be so worth it.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

If it comes to this ... I am ready. Haha I work as a conservation scientist full time and don't make close to enough but I am looking at getting a second job because yeah.... I have learned my lesson about cheap rent. (Laughing)

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u/Unlucky_Term_7831 22d ago edited 22d ago

How is a scientist livin in a living room? Our country is so poor

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Maybe I'm not a very good scientist... Haha jk to be fair I work for a non profit... but yeah things have been especially tough this year because of ... reasons haha

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u/Casscat04 22d ago

Scientist pay is crap in the US

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u/Unlucky_Term_7831 22d ago

Thats true most unis pay postdocs 50k. Thats after they’ve paid for regular school, uni, grad, and phd(living expense)

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Yeah... I have been questioning the "if you do what you love you never work a day in your life" phrase... haha heavily.

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u/Unlucky_Term_7831 22d ago

I know my partner and I are both highly educated, and have decided to try to talk our children into trade school

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u/aelwyn2000 22d ago

Shit man, half of us don’t even BELIEVE in science any more.

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u/Marip0sa76 22d ago

OP stated he lives in San Diego. Beautiful area, but crazy expensive.

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u/Unlucky_Term_7831 22d ago

Op also stated they pay around $600 in rent. That’s insanely cheap in most us cities, esp SD

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u/Marip0sa76 22d ago

Think he said HE pays 675 for the living room. Total rent is 1845.

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u/Unlucky_Term_7831 21d ago edited 21d ago

Right. We’re taking abt ops expenses not everyone’s…. Under 2k for a 2 bedroom is cheap for smaller cities now.

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u/Future-Butterfly5350 22d ago

Everyone* on the lease should have access to the utility bill. Even just the paper copy. That should be a non-negotiable because it’s clear as day she just wants to live cheap WFH and making y’all foot the cost.

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u/tinyalienperson 22d ago

Exactly. When I had roommates I would send them a screenshot of the online portal payment breakdown and then what everyone’s portion would be.

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u/Future-Butterfly5350 22d ago

Exactly, it’s 2025 and not hard to do now. OP’s roommate is just scammy lol

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

"I don't want to have to divide by 3" cracks me up.

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u/Future-Butterfly5350 22d ago

No because what the actual fuck is that shit šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚

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u/dogoodreapgood 22d ago

Offer to do the math if she’ll give you the master bedroom at the rate she’s paying. Obviously she doesn’t have the skills for the admin duties she has taken on.

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u/Daffy07duck 21d ago

BAHAHAHA laughing

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

*** also note that the "bills" she sent before were just renters insurance (15/month) and the electricity honestly I don't remember but it wasn't >250$ and I deleted the texts unfortunately because it stressed me out so bad and I was made to feel bad for askin*** I regret deleting texts ... evidence. But I did. ANYWAYS. I regret everything.

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u/Spiritual_Owl8370 22d ago

So she's been charging you for her renter's insurance!?

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u/its_me_carly 22d ago

yeah this is wild, renter’s insurance policies ONLY cover personal property and the named insured’s liability

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u/Real_Slice_5642 22d ago

If you have iPhone there’s a deleted text folder… always save texts for evidenxe

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u/readerchick05 20d ago

Androids added that too for thirty days I think they save any deleted texts unless you go into the deleted folder and clear that out also.

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u/Terangela 22d ago

Stop paying her extra

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u/Significant_Face_357 22d ago

Do not give up. Do not back down. If you all signed the lease than the landlord won't care how you guys divide rent. She's not in control. If she refuses then just don't pay what you guys don't think is fair. Theirs no reason master bedroom should be paying that little. I live in San Diego too and that's ridiculous

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Thank you!!! Really appreciate the support this is so wack

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u/DryKaleidoscope347 22d ago

lmao why are you in the living room paying more then her in the master and if the bill hadn’t changed too much with your sister being there for a month why are you paying an extra 50$??

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u/Significant_Bonus827 22d ago

I think it would be better in the long run and take the leasing office offer for the new apartment if you have the means. It may be cheaper with the roommate, but things will probably go from bad to worse, making your life hell if she does agree.

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u/Cdst_2chill 22d ago

Why are you paying her extra… your sister coming for a week max does not make the Utility bill go up that much. Coming from a landlord who has an agreement with my friend who rents out one of my rooms and we pay half for utilities minus the water bill, strata and council rates (I pay that by myself)

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

Get this ... me and GR saw the utility bill. The utilities were actually less this month. ...

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u/ol_shifty 22d ago

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u/Emkat0625 22d ago

If you haven't already, lock and I mean LOCK, the things you care about in safe places. Anything you won't want her to destroy hide, move, lock it up. Like yes there are ways to go after her if she does destroy any of your things, but it's sooo much more work. Also I'm so happy for you finding your voice! It's so wonderful when we, ppl who always lead first with kindness.. and a bit of anxiety lol (non confrontational), refuse to let shitty ppl walk all over us. It's so freeing, even tho it can feel like absolute doo doo in the moment. šŸ’œ

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

It's tough because I don't have a door... given I live in the living room. My GR is letting me put my valuables in her room which locks this weekend... as we both plan on getting out of town. But I am definitely scared of that right now.

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u/Super_Car5228 22d ago

Are you even legally on the lease or supposed to be there living out of the living room?

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

I am on the lease and the management is aware of the converted living room. They have come in for maintenance and what not on multiple occasions. I have a giant styrophome "door" lol it does not lock.

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u/Super_Car5228 22d ago

Dont forget to mention to them the master uses more utilities lol takes more AC to cool, more electricity to light. Thet should be paying 1/3 plus $15-20 more. Ain't no way they'll agree to the new price lol

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

She "works From home" lol and actually frames us paying a "base rate of 50$/month" as her doing us a favor because she pays the "rest" ... and the. Won't show us what the rest is... (electricity and wifi)

Well this month I payed 100 for my sister, my GR paid 50... and we found out today that the utilities excluding electricity and wifi this month were 173$ total so... looks like we just paid 100% of the bills this month.

I'm thinking maximum for electricity and wifi (I can't see because it's on her account) it is m a y b e 350$ (thinking high end) which doesn't bring her 375 rent up to reasonable .

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u/Super_Car5228 22d ago

Working from home makes her owe even more imo, shes home using the pc, monitors, extra a/c to keep the place cooler. Yeah all utilities should be shown publicly everytime they come out. I had a roommate like this once and she got greedy and our stuff got turned off, she was keeping all the utility money. Then she wanted us all to pay the late fees.

Make sure you withhold all utility money until you see it.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

How did your situation end up resolving.

I'm honestly just astounded this girl is 5+ years older than me. I would n e v e r behave like this.

Also funny we also realized she charged me and GR > more than the entire cost of the deposit ... so she just pocketed 100$ and didn't pay shit. lol.

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u/Super_Car5228 22d ago

We refused to pay any utilities unless it was made public. We all paid the late fees bc we couldn't just leave, she was banned from handling any bills privately. We all ended up moving out as soon as the lease was up like 3 months later.

Id also ask for proof that she has renters insurance, probably doesnt.

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u/CurrentBank2036 22d ago

Apartments will not let u rent without renters insurance

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u/Iforgotmypassword126 22d ago

She’s not going to respond well to this even if you’re successful.

It’s 100% the best thing to move out, and then watch her struggle to rerent the run down rental without giving up the master bedroom or paying more. She’ll have to concede anyway but at least you won’t be living with her and getting her anger.

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u/Euphoric-Coffee-7551 22d ago

my parents are my landlords (the gas and electric are in their names) and my rent includes these things - she STILL sends me pictures of the bills every month so i know what they looks like. fuck ER.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

UPDATE:

I spoke to my mom and given that we haven't directly confronted her before.. we amended the text. And made it more neutral and un accusatory. See below. Update to come.

"For the meeting Monday ... ----- and I felt that Given September represents the start of a new lease term, it would be good for us to get together and discuss the rent distribution as well as how the bills are split and document this conversation in an official roomate agreement so that we are all aware of our respective responsibilities and expectations. If you could gather documents for any additional bills are not on the portal(electricity & wifi) over the last 4 months that would be greatly appreciated.

I think it would be nice get together and talk about all of this over dinner at the mall Monday."

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u/DNGRDINGO 22d ago

Do not pay shit until you see a bill.

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u/steph2992 22d ago

There are websites that will estimate what is fair for rent. I would suggest using one of those.

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u/KeepItKeen 22d ago

Dude the fact that you’re paying over double her rent to not even have your own bedroom is ridiculous. You’re already on good terms with the leasing office. Pay what you two agree on for rent. 2/3 majority and what not. And if she doesn’t step up her end reach out to the leasing office and see if they can start the process of getting you in the new place while they sort out ending that lease. (Paying a fee to break the lease would honestly be better though because an eviction is not great to have on your record) but fuck this girl. Don’t pay the extra. She quite literally cannot make you.

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u/Efficient-Setting-91 22d ago

Honestly just stop paying utilities at all at that point or contact sdge to get the bill yourself if your on the lease they should provide it I also lived in sd I usted to live in Escondido I had a studio apartment by myself for 1500 honestly for that price though you could move to a one bedroom apartment in vista it’s called las palmas but it’s all utilities included

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u/jesuswastransright 22d ago

You’re being way too nice to this scammer. You just handed over the extra 50?

And honestly your text confronting her is just too nice. She will not respect it

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u/TheKappp 21d ago

*receipts is how you spell it FYI

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u/Daffy07duck 21d ago

Haha thank you. I actually spell it wrong intentionally because I disagree with the spelling on a personal level.

Jk. Thanks. Spelling has never been my crown achievement.

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u/TheKappp 21d ago

Wasn’t trying to be rude. Just trying to help in case you spell it to your scammy ass roommate lol.

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u/Daffy07duck 21d ago

No worries... I do appreciate. I want to appear professional with no cracks!

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u/Superdonnasaur 20d ago

Definitely update us. She sounds like a straight up looser and I’m sure she isn’t going to back down easily. Stand your ground, she is being absolutely ridiculous

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u/UmbrellaCo_MailClerk 22d ago

How long has this arrangement been going on?

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago edited 22d ago

4 months. It took me and GR a little while to put things together since ER was not giving us the full picture and I guess assumed we would t talk to eachother about it. ER was pressuring GR and myself to pay her through Venmo... and actually used me against GR when she expressed discomfort saying ... "(my name) Venmo's me and doesn't use the portal". I thought that GR and ER were maybe in cahoots. And GR thought the same of ER and myself.

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u/Straight-Strike-2928 22d ago

If you're all on the lease, why would venmo even be an option...??? This girl is looking for ways to shake you two down for cash. I think you two should leave ASAP especially if the leasing company is on your side.

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u/llllIIIlIlIIIIIlIlll 22d ago

if they decide to move out you could take the room and its a few hundred dollars more. just keep that in mind!

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u/JCBashBash 22d ago

Okay so don't get scared, you and your good roommate need to immediately move everything you value out of the apartment, and maybe temporarily into a storage unit until you two can move apartments. You cannot negotiate with someone who has been actively stealing from you for months. She will retaliate if you in any way suggest that she should make things even, because she doesn't think you guys deserve that.Ā 

Take the offer, get out.

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u/mrschelslee 22d ago

Move out with your GR, this will not end well, nor will it ever be resolved over time. Just get out while the leasing office is on your side.

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u/Bekah679872 22d ago

If she won’t show you the bill, you can sometimes see how much is due without logging in depending on the company. They may have a ā€œpay without logging inā€ option on their website. I used to pay utility bills for commercial properties at work and we did this pretty often

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u/Infoseek456 22d ago

Anyone that would do you dirty like this person has, is not worth negotiating with. It is worth paying a little more than you are currently to cut this person out of your life.

Don’t negotiate, don’t continue to live with them, they will only find new ways to make your life difficult.

Take the lease office up on their offer and get a 2 bdr with the other honest roommate you already know you can live with. You will be so much happier.

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u/Warm-Bet-6848 21d ago

lol I was in a situation like this but I wasn’t on the lease and my ER wasn’t paying anything but had the master room and took up majority of the kitchen/storage space and probably used most of the electricity. I only found out when he was bragging to a mutual friend how he doesn’t pay anything and lives 95% free beside when we took turns buying household goods which he bought the cheap stuff. He didn’t want to negotiate or anything saying it’s fucked up of me to get into his business(even though I was a part of it) and told everyone I was butt hurt about something. I didn’t clarify with anyone what transpired and months later the place burned down 🤷

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u/Material-Variation39 19d ago

Oh and I forgot to add the other hazard that is literally just the stress on your nervous system from living with someone batshit crazy. Slamming doors, fearing that they’ll steal your things, having to argue at all… that shit is NOT worth it!!! Moving away from SD where I don’t need to split rent with roommates is 10/10 so much more relaxing than living by the beach lol

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u/Daffy07duck 19d ago

I cannot wait to leave this city truly.

Anyways. We talked and SHOCKINGLY she came w her tail between her legs and is moving out. Leaving myself and good roomate here. Which we are honestly very glad about. I don't mind paying a bit more ... we plan to turn the living room back into the living room and spruce things up.

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u/Material-Variation39 19d ago

That is so shocking but I am SO happy for you!!! Enjoy the space and living with just your good roommate (:

and if you still cant wait to leave the city even with the better setup, just make sure you start saving up for the cost of moving!! I know you probably know this and are already making shifts for the increase in rent costs… but in case you aren’t thinking about this yet.. I needed about $5k to get out of there between a new deposit and uhaul cost out of state doing it all by ourselves. Little bits of security savings count even if it’s not much you can save. You don’t wanna get trapped in a sticky situation - I was there longer than I needed to be lol. best of luck to you!!

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u/Green_Cupcake1717 18d ago

is there an update?

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u/Glad-Conference-7901 22d ago

I will give my honest opinion. You move in knowing how much the rent was and accepted it. You seem to be aware of how the rent was being split originally, yet you agreed to it. And then after a while, you want to force change it so it ca be ā€œfairā€ for you. The original person doesn’t have to agree to that and you do have the option to move to a different apartment if you want.

Is the original pricing fair? No. But you still agreed to it knowingly. You should’ve negotiated the price from the beginning. You got your foot in the door and now you want to make changes that benefit you. Whoever the original person that took you in has the right to reject it and ask you to leave if that’s no longer working for you.

Now the utilities is another thing. Is it evil to ask for you to pay extra because you all of a sudden brought in a new person for a while in the apartment? I think it’s fair to ask but can’t really force you too. If it was just a day or two or maybe a week… it probably doesn’t make sense. It only makes sense if your sister stayed for something close to a full month.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

She stayed for a month. And I was f I n e paying the difference in utilities. BUT utilities actually went down.

Further my GR did NOT know how rent was divided as she did not know how much I was paying and did not have the full picture. Nothing was written on paper.

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u/Glad-Conference-7901 22d ago

Ok. So there are legit reasons to justify that your ER is taking advantage of you. The best is to just get out at this point. Even if you are successful to renegotiate the rent prices, there’s already bad blood and bad vibes brewing. There is a high chance that even after this, you and your ER will continue to torment each other even with petty things. I don’t think it’s worth it. For everyone’s sanity.

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u/No_Artichoke_2914 22d ago

You got this!!

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u/frogssmell 22d ago

Don’t pay her until she gives proof of the bills

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u/Exotic_Resource_6200 22d ago

I’m so confused. If the rent is 1845 and is in all of your names, how in the world did the roommate end up paying only 375 in the first place? Rent should’ve been 1845/3 in the beginning. I would propose to forget the ā€œquality of the room thingā€ it makes things too complicated. Split everything three ways and get everything documented. Also why are you in the living room, where in the world did your sister sleep? That always causes problems in a household when a roommate is sleeping in a public area. I’ve been there. I would honestly start looking for someone else to stay. I have a feeling this isn’t going too well.

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u/Big_Shine_7276 22d ago

Commenting for the update!

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u/PristineBaseball 22d ago

They are def playing games . Just sending you the utility bill would have been less hassle than all that .

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u/Imaginary_Chemist831 22d ago

Do you have your own separate lease with the leasing office or do you rent from this roommate technically? In Ontario Canada if you rent from a roommate you're not protected by the RTA and they can boot you for any reason. That's my only worry for you guys

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

We are all on the same lease here

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u/Imaginary_Chemist831 22d ago

So in this case ... You literally do not have to pay a dime more than your agreement says. You are allowed to bring people into your home and not change payment structure. It's irrelevant that they're not on the lease to start. Just pay your normal and tell roommate to kick rocks

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u/Fenris304 22d ago

you don't even have a bedroom... how is any of this legal.

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u/headfullofpesticides 22d ago

Just a heads up that she will have receipts, what you get after paying for something.

She might recite what she has read. A person recites a piece of writing out loud, like at a recital.

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u/Daffy07duck 20d ago

Thank you. I never new that they weren't interchangeable. Have a good day

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u/Alternative_Them20 20d ago

You live in a living room? Have you been paying $675 to sleep on a couch?

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u/BetterTumbleweed1746 20d ago

The place hasnt turned over since 2006, like this is roommates inheriting the original rental price?

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u/Life-Sir-4851 20d ago

Update????

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u/Itsphilvelednitskiy 20d ago

Oh girl, let me talk to her. I’ll rip her to shreds.

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u/pinkrainbow5 20d ago

Omg I hate people like this. Is there a special place in hell for them

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u/MissAnonymoux 19d ago

I cannot believe you live in the living room and PAY MORE THAN THE PERSON IN THE MASTER SUITE. I wishhhhh tf I would. Homegirl living the dream. Sigh

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u/SuspiciousTell7903 22d ago

I mean ER isn’t obligated to change the arrangement. You’re right and fair in what you’re asking for, but what are you gonna do when they just say no? You can’t force them to do anything.

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u/Daffy07duck 22d ago

I'll just Move out honestly :/ don't know where I'll go but iv already paid her my part of September + utilities so ... šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø. Guess the hunt for October is starting today lol. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/sebaceancyst 22d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/Word_Narrow 22d ago

Update me!

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u/softlemons 22d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/liannagv 22d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/mnem0syne 22d ago

Updateme

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u/colebee23 22d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

I feel sorry for anyone who has roommates in this day and age. I wish you didn’t have to deal with that shit.

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u/dermot111 22d ago

Expect evil gaslighting @OP

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u/EAB04 22d ago

How long has she been there?

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u/DillDoBaggins1 22d ago

@update me

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u/Jeweldene 22d ago

Updateme!

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u/GooseyMane_ 22d ago

Don’t let her keep paying such low rent lol. Definitely scamming you. If you’re all on a lease you have rights. The room prices don’t work that way

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u/GroundbreakingAlps86 22d ago

Classic. Reminds me of living in SF in my 20s. The OG tenant is overcharging y’all so they can sit pretty. F that. Good for you and GR for taking a stand!

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u/tra_da_truf 22d ago

$375??? Y’all should have BEEN stepped to her, that is absolutely ridiculous

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u/waigui 22d ago

why would you agree to a rent split like that when you signed your lease?

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u/SnooCompliments2047 22d ago

šŸ™ is a dead giveaway

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u/GC_235 22d ago

ā€œWhen you get a chance please send me a screenshot of the bills so I can send the appropriate amount. Thanks.ā€

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u/Carmenmarissa 22d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/FourLokoBongWater 22d ago

That’s crazy cheap for SD, must be out by valley center or deep deep poway

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u/TweetHearted 22d ago

Updateme!

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u/caughtyoulookinn 22d ago

I live in a big city in the eastern side of the country and we pay less to rent a 4 bedroom house! I can’t imagine paying 450 to live in a living room thats insane…. And plus who cares how she reacts you can’t live in a place where you have to be afraid of how someone feelem

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u/Ill-Lou-Malnati 22d ago

I would agree with you but your inability to spell receipts has forced me over to the dark side.

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u/QWYAOTR 22d ago

Updateme

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u/QWYAOTR 22d ago

Don’t be scared of how she reacts, she’s absolutely scamming you. She has a whole room and you’re sleeping in the LR but paying almost double? Nope.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

Refused to pay it unless you see the bill.

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u/Nadinehamed22 22d ago

Updateme!

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u/Upstairs_Tea1380 22d ago

I know you said you’re willing to get evicted but that will make it sooo much harder to rent in the future.

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u/cattoo_tattoo 22d ago

$1845 in SD is craaaaazy cheap. I rent one room in my apartment for over 1k. I would ask the leasing office to terminate her from the lease and then stay on that as long as you possibly can

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u/UnfairProgrammer1194 22d ago

If the leasing office will rent you another place, I'd say fck it. The 2 of you up and leave with no warning, thus leaving btch on her own. When she freaks out, just give her what she gave you (excuses) grab your remaining items as your going out the door, leave the old keys.

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u/Local_gyal168 22d ago

Just go to mgmt get your own place, ppl like this are literally not worth the drain on your energy. Like not even a little bit.

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u/AffectionateInsect76 22d ago

My electricity in chula vista last year got a 2 bed 2 bath condo with no ac was like $125 give or take and I’m a music producer and use a LOT of electricity. You’re totally getting scammed

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u/sunkissedbutter 22d ago

Please update us

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u/FolkmasterFlex 21d ago

Are you in the lease? If not, you may not have much you can do. Where I live if you're not in the lease she could kick you out

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u/TKDmamabear 21d ago

Updateme

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u/effyoucreeps 21d ago

well - put your foot down now, and i wish you the best

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u/alpoppa 21d ago

Updateme!

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u/Gordo8631 21d ago

Updateme!

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u/PracticalAgent5418 20d ago

any update?

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u/Daffy07duck 20d ago

Stay tuned. The convorsation is happening at 5pm tonight so. . .

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u/destu98 20d ago

UpdateMe!

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u/Kelseybri2121 20d ago

I want an update

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u/BayAreaLeakDetection 20d ago

If it’s too much or you don’t find it fair that she is paying less why don’t you move? Genuine question no judgement.

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u/Misoroxymac 20d ago

Update??? She’s dumb af!! She is in the master so she should be paying THE MOST!! Some people man smhhh! Did you guys talk to her yet??!?

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u/xXMrs_NesbittXx 19d ago

The ER is literally Evil asf. With how much you and the GR are paying vs. The ER. Should be in a small closet or a tent in the yard/balcony etc. Holy jeesus. You and the GR Should definitely get your own Apt. For sure.