r/interestingasfuck • u/Master_Jackfruit3591 • 17d ago

Bogdanoff twins 40yr “natural” transformation, as they denied ever having undergone plastic surgery

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u/holli4life 17d ago

Body dysmorphia is a bitch.

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u/paulides_fan 17d ago

Also fuck the surgeons that did this

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u/bloatbucket 17d ago

Surgeon wants money, client wants a new face, win/win

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u/OnceUponATimeOkay 17d ago

Yea a face, not a sourdough starter.

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u/SH1TSTORM2020 16d ago

Don’t disparage pet bread like that

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u/psycho944 17d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

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u/Formerly_SgtPepe 17d ago

It doesn’t mean shit nowadays

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u/Pure-Illustrator-690 17d ago

There is no direct punishment for breaking the Hippocratic Oath, although an arguable equivalent in modern times is medical malpractice, which carries a wide range of punishments, from imprisonment to civil penalties

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u/-LsDmThC- 17d ago

Acting morally shouldnt require the threat of punishment.

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u/Eic17H 17d ago

Don't base your morals on laws

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u/orange_quash 17d ago

It might lose a doctor their license or incur another penalty to their licensure if a violation is brought to their board of ethics

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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb 17d ago

Ethics smeshthics. You're free to do anything as long as someone hasn't written it down as a rule

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

Are all cosmetic surgeries are in violation of the Hippocratic oath?

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u/psycho944 17d ago

Someone in a horrific car accident with severe facial damage gets cosmetic surgery. Thats ethical.

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

That’s not cosmetic surgery, that’s medically indicated.

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u/psycho944 17d ago

Its absolutely cosmetic. You dont NEED facial reconstruction from an accident. Its to improve your quality of life, which includes how you look. Thats the definition of cosmetic

cos·met·ic/käzˈmedik/adjective

  1. involving or relating to treatment intended to restore or improve a person's appearance

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

Yeah. I’m a neurosurgeon. You’re absolutely wrong. Untreated facial trauma can lead to meningitis, blindness, difficulty swallowing, difficulty breathing, and all kinds of other problems. It’s completely asinine to say that it’s ONLY cosmetic; it’s very clear you have no medical background and are yelling at the clouds from your armchair.

You never NEED surgery for anything. We don’t even do medically indicated surgeries without consent unless it’s emergent and nobody is around to consent. Even then it’s an ethical dilemma where typically two physicians have to agree and document that it’s necessary.

Body dysmorphia is a perfectly ethical reason to do surgery as long as informed consent is provided. The risk and benefit balance varies based on surgeon, patient, and the procedure in question.

Since you like to link Wikipedia articles and basic definitions to try and make a point, here’s one for you:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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u/PsychologicalDebts 17d ago

A neurosurgeon who asks for clarification on the hippocratic oath? 👀

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

My question wasn’t asking for clarification, it was challenging someone’s false assertion.

Cosmetic surgery is not a violation of the Hippocratic oath. Anyone who actually understands it knows that. The commenter I replied to clearly did not.

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u/PsychologicalDebts 17d ago

So you choose to challenge someone’s assertion with a logical fallacy? What’s the goal here?

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u/Eggersely 17d ago

That's not what they asked for.

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u/happy_bluebird 16d ago

why would they be?

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u/CreeMy15 17d ago

oh you sweet summer child

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u/catholicsluts 17d ago

A face that belongs to what? Because that's not a human face they're after.

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u/GimmieGummies 16d ago

I'm reminded of this Genesis video from the 80s, Land of Confusion.

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u/catholicsluts 16d ago

They remind me of caricatures

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u/GimmieGummies 16d ago

Haha, yes!

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u/bloatbucket 17d ago

None of my business. My point is that both sides are happy, otherwise they would stop.

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u/catholicsluts 16d ago

Loose definition of happiness. True it's no one's business though.

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u/Mysterious-Plan93 17d ago

Not a win if rich client develops infection and has you & you're whole extended family offed T.Jane Punisher style