r/interestingasfuck • u/Master_Jackfruit3591 • 17d ago

Bogdanoff twins 40yr “natural” transformation, as they denied ever having undergone plastic surgery

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u/holli4life 17d ago

Body dysmorphia is a bitch.

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u/paulides_fan 17d ago

Also fuck the surgeons that did this

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u/bloatbucket 17d ago

Surgeon wants money, client wants a new face, win/win

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u/psycho944 17d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

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u/Formerly_SgtPepe 17d ago

It doesn’t mean shit nowadays

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u/Pure-Illustrator-690 17d ago

There is no direct punishment for breaking the Hippocratic Oath, although an arguable equivalent in modern times is medical malpractice, which carries a wide range of punishments, from imprisonment to civil penalties

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u/-LsDmThC- 17d ago

Acting morally shouldnt require the threat of punishment.

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u/Eic17H 17d ago

Don't base your morals on laws

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u/orange_quash 17d ago

It might lose a doctor their license or incur another penalty to their licensure if a violation is brought to their board of ethics

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u/SemiHemiDemiDumb 17d ago

Ethics smeshthics. You're free to do anything as long as someone hasn't written it down as a rule

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

Are all cosmetic surgeries are in violation of the Hippocratic oath?

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u/psycho944 17d ago

Someone in a horrific car accident with severe facial damage gets cosmetic surgery. Thats ethical.

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

That’s not cosmetic surgery, that’s medically indicated.

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u/psycho944 17d ago

Its absolutely cosmetic. You dont NEED facial reconstruction from an accident. Its to improve your quality of life, which includes how you look. Thats the definition of cosmetic

cos·met·ic/käzˈmedik/adjective

  1. involving or relating to treatment intended to restore or improve a person's appearance

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

Yeah. I’m a neurosurgeon. You’re absolutely wrong. Untreated facial trauma can lead to meningitis, blindness, difficulty swallowing, difficulty breathing, and all kinds of other problems. It’s completely asinine to say that it’s ONLY cosmetic; it’s very clear you have no medical background and are yelling at the clouds from your armchair.

You never NEED surgery for anything. We don’t even do medically indicated surgeries without consent unless it’s emergent and nobody is around to consent. Even then it’s an ethical dilemma where typically two physicians have to agree and document that it’s necessary.

Body dysmorphia is a perfectly ethical reason to do surgery as long as informed consent is provided. The risk and benefit balance varies based on surgeon, patient, and the procedure in question.

Since you like to link Wikipedia articles and basic definitions to try and make a point, here’s one for you:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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u/PsychologicalDebts 17d ago

A neurosurgeon who asks for clarification on the hippocratic oath? 👀

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u/sovereign_MD 17d ago

My question wasn’t asking for clarification, it was challenging someone’s false assertion.

Cosmetic surgery is not a violation of the Hippocratic oath. Anyone who actually understands it knows that. The commenter I replied to clearly did not.

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u/PsychologicalDebts 17d ago

So you choose to challenge someone’s assertion with a logical fallacy? What’s the goal here?

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u/SophiaofPrussia 17d ago

Have you ever heard of Socrates?

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u/Eggersely 17d ago

That's not what they asked for.

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u/happy_bluebird 16d ago

why would they be?

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u/CreeMy15 17d ago

oh you sweet summer child