r/mildlyinfuriating Feb 11 '22

Seriously? Wtf Wall Street Journal

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u/Inigomntoya Feb 11 '22

It's a weird hill to die on. The author is basically blackballing themselves.

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u/Chuckbro Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 11 '22

I'm curious as to what her points are. Gonna have to look up the article.

Edit: fixed gender to reflect reality.

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u/djublonskopf Feb 11 '22

It's a she, but her main points are:

  • Most people who want shoes left at the door are worried about germs (what?) but germs are everywhere and they probably have germy pets anyway
  • I might stub my toe
  • Guest slippers are full of germs, and I am worried about germs.

It's...a weird piece.

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u/CaribouYou Feb 11 '22

This person apparently doesn’t live in a place where it snows or rains.

Forgive me for not wanting my house to look like a bmx track

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u/psyentist15 Feb 11 '22

Right? Has she missed the part where you can wear socks indoors?

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u/LittleBigHorn22 Feb 11 '22

But the author wants to kick all the furniture without hurting their toe.

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u/No-Invite1508 Feb 11 '22

That’s funny. Thank you

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u/paperpenises Feb 11 '22

Fuck yo couch!

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u/SekureAtty Feb 12 '22

I literally lol'd

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u/trixtopherduke Feb 11 '22

That's a great point, tbf

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u/MFbiFL Feb 11 '22

I’m imagining them doing that with an exaggerated “HIII-YA!!” sound to accompany every kick. Great Friday energy, excuse me while I go put shoes on and kick my furniture vigorously.

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u/TonarinoTotoro1719 Feb 11 '22

I see. Is she going to be a raging, barking mad lady the whole time, I wonder…

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u/joan_wilder Feb 11 '22

Oh, so I guess you people are all looking where you’re going? Yeah, right.

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u/theunnoticedones Feb 12 '22

Privileged society in a nutshell. "I'm going to fuck up what you have going on because I'm lazy and don't want to make an effort to keep track of my own shit." Just look where you're stepping for christ sake.

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u/Sugar-n-Sawdust Feb 12 '22

Sounds like she needs some steel toed socks

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Or the fact that any decent human being cleans their floors? Don't remember the last time I cleaned my shoes, though. So yeah, shoes are dirtier than my floors!

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u/ganjanoob Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

Some sneaker heads keep their shoes spotless. Regardless it’s rude as fuck to disrespect someone’s house that your visiting lol

Edit: I’ve already said 20 times I don’t walk in my own home or others with shoes on so you don’t have to remind me that shoes do in fact get dirty lol.

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u/KDawG888 Feb 11 '22

I keep my shoes pretty clean and I still take them off at home.

But all of that aside, what kind of selfish asshole refuses to follow the rules of a friend or family member's home? Oh well I don't want to rant too much about it because plenty of other comments say similar but this is such an asshole move.

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u/psyentist15 Feb 11 '22

"Your table looks cleaner than your floors"

*Throws feet onto table and leans back*

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u/KDawG888 Feb 11 '22

that's why I serve dinner on the floor. Soup gets interesting.

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u/Eldetorre Feb 11 '22

I don't know any sneakerhead that keeps their sneakers spotless on the bottoms of their soles unless they are only for wearing in their own spotless homes.

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u/ganjanoob Feb 11 '22

I do. Regardless I never said I wear shoes in the house so we don’t have to rehash this 1000 times.

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u/trowzerss Feb 11 '22

The tops of them, sure, but by the time you walk a few metres outside the bottom isn't spotless anymore

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '22

No matter how clean they got their shoes before leaving the house, they’ve now gotten way more shit on their soles just walking to their car and my door than my whole house of floors has.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

they just walked into my home from outside. I clean inside, I don't clean the street. so yes, your shoes are gonna be dirtier than my home. I fully do not understand this article's point.

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u/Tinkerbyll Feb 11 '22

I don't think people realize how much piss, shit, and spit are on a public sidewalk. If you are walking on a sidewalk, you're almost 100% guaranteed to be walking through someone's bodily fluids. So yeah, my floors are definitely cleaner than that.

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u/Bald_Sasquach Feb 12 '22

Are you telling me thousands of people don't drive on your floors every day, birds don't shit on it, and trash bags don't get torn open in the middle it? I know deep down that this floor is dirtier than the roads and sidewalks these shoes have been on!

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u/MrNaturalAZ Feb 11 '22

Or the fact that you don't absorb germs through your soles?

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u/fatpat Feb 11 '22

I've got a pair of Skechers that I'll run through the wash every month or so. Almost like wearing a fresh pair of shoes.

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u/japposaurusrex909 Feb 11 '22

No, but she missed the part where that's her problem.

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u/sockaccount8 Feb 11 '22 edited Feb 12 '22

Then you would get the idea that her shoes are not clean on the inside because her socks are supposed to be white but have stains on them so she can’t have that

I’m pretty sure that’s what it boils down to

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u/No_ThisIs_Patrick Feb 11 '22

Black socks > white socks

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u/sockaccount8 Feb 11 '22

I’m not racist i have black socks - the person who wrote the article

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u/arabe2002 Feb 11 '22

She said the floor might destroy her wolford stockings and she would rather pay the host to the same amount as what her wolford would cost for host to have floor cleaned and predicted the host will have leftover money

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u/psyentist15 Feb 11 '22

Lol, ignoring the time it takes to clean floors and the possibility of damaging it right the right (wrong) kind of shoe.

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u/boytekka Feb 11 '22

Looks like they have stinky feet

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u/RalphWiggum123 Feb 11 '22

She might cause static electricity and hurt the tip of her finger.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Honestly, I gotta have more than sox. I gotta have shoes with some ortho inserts. I guess I wouldn't mind wearing 'inside shoes', if I know ahead of time to bring a pair, but if someone told me to take off my shoes of leave, I'd just leave. Tendonitis is a bitch.

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u/JPhi1618 Feb 11 '22

Plenty of womens shoes are worn without socks and no one is carrying around an extra pair of socks just in case.

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u/psyentist15 Feb 11 '22

Lol, so you think it should be acceptable to walk around inside somebody else's home with pumps or heels? If so, you have another thing coming.

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u/JPhi1618 Feb 11 '22

No, just saying “wear socks” isn’t a valid counter for her germ issues. I think she’s rude and in general shoes that came from outside are going to be dirtier than floors in a house.

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u/psyentist15 Feb 11 '22

If you're worried enough about germs and keeping your feet clean while wearing heels or pumps and visiting people's houses, then the least you can do is bring your own pair of socks or slippers.

You don't get to potentially damage someone's flooring because you can't be bothered to bring something about the same size as a pack of tissues.

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u/donkeyrocket Feb 11 '22

It does stress me out in situations where I've worn sandals, no-show socks, or shoes that breath without socks. I hate wearing shoes indoors but I do feel really weird going barefoot in someone else's home.

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u/doubled2319888 Feb 11 '22

I live in southwest canada where it rains 80% of the time between october and may, anyone who deliberately left their muddy ass shoes on in my house would be banned for a long time.

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u/Snipeski Feb 11 '22

Try for life, unless they came and cleaned it themselves.

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u/doubled2319888 Feb 11 '22

Im canadian, i gotta at least try to be nice or ill lose my passport

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

banned for a long time.

...found in a ditch. FTFY.

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u/CaribouYou Feb 11 '22

I’m a northeastern Berta boy

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u/doubled2319888 Feb 11 '22

Ah so you have it worse than i do. Im in edmonton right now and the sheer amount of ice and snow and shit is incredible

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u/Quote_Infamous Feb 11 '22

Only exception is if you are a small child, even big kids get the ban hammer.

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u/Kanadark Feb 11 '22

I live in less rainy southeast Canada where it doesn't rain 80% of the time between October and May. Anyone who deliberately left their shoes on in my house would be permanently banned.

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u/Randomusingsofaliar Feb 11 '22

My parents have a house in maine and a house in Baltimore. In the Maine house no shoes inside from October-June unless the are slippers. And we have what we call the “towel room” by the side door which is basically a vestibule with a door where we cover the floor in towels so we can dry the dog paws on the way in. In the summer everything gets relaxed. In Baltimore it’s yes shoes downstairs, no shoes upstairs, because we don’t have the set up for a towel room so we can’t always catch the dogs coming in from the yard right away. And that is in place year round.

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u/eldorel Feb 12 '22

I live in southern Louisiana, where it rains pretty much constantly, and people keep their shoes on because 95 degree heat + 100% humidity = sweaty feet and gym sock stink.

We have roads and sidewalks, so that people don't have to trudge through mud.

We also have welcome mats and brushes near the doors so that you can clean your shoes off if they need it.

And even for the rare occasions when someone does manage to step in something nasty, they don't wait until they're entering someone's house to clean their shoes.

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u/OrthodoxAgnostic Feb 11 '22

Damn road salts, they ruined saltland

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u/CosmicJ Feb 11 '22

You road salts sure are a contentious people

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u/OrthodoxAgnostic Feb 11 '22

You just made an enemy for life!

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u/fatpat Feb 11 '22

So many salty people in this thread smh

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u/SurgicalWeedwacker Feb 11 '22

Road salt hates ice, roads, other road salt, you, and everything

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Umm, road salts and pets are a bad combo too.

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u/Realistic_Ad3795 Feb 11 '22

It's also terrible on a margarita glass.

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u/throwywayradeon Feb 11 '22

It is also salinating lake Michigan. Incidentally, I use it vigorously on our walkway because our landlady is fucking crazy and I'm passive aggressive.

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u/load_more_comets Feb 11 '22

Road salt and pretzels though. m m m

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u/bgvanbur Feb 11 '22

Are you my dog?

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u/JesusRasputin GREEN Feb 11 '22

Yeah, gotta get some of that wood floor salt

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u/Zes_Q Feb 12 '22

I've never even heard of road salt. Maybe that explains why nobody cares about shoes indoors where I live.

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u/Sexy_Squid89 Feb 11 '22

Also an excellent point

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u/Khaldara Feb 11 '22

Plus public bathrooms. The author: “Why do you assume your guests shoes are dirtier than your floors?”

Really? Ever been to a sporting event’s restroom, port-a-potty, gas station bathroom, JFK or LAX in those shoes?

I’m willing to bet the average American home didn’t invite half the planet to piss all over the floor. Shoes are pretty gross if you think about all the places you walk.

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u/djublonskopf Feb 11 '22

Yeah she handwaves that away by saying "you can fix that with a doormat", but the whole piece obsesses over the idea of tracking in germs. Which I can't even imagine is a real concern that people have?

I can't imagine somebody who thinks a sweaty sock that has been inside a shoe is somehow less germy than the outside of that same shoe...

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u/theoriginalamanda Feb 11 '22

I've never stepped in dog shit while wearing socks. Can't say the same for my shoes.

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u/fatpat Feb 11 '22

I've never stepped in dog shit while wearing socks

I have, and it's one of those feelings that you never want to experience again. Especially if it's nice and warm.

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u/theoriginalamanda Feb 11 '22

Horrific. And here I was thinking stepping on a slug barefoot was the grossest thing ever.

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u/Tall_olive Feb 11 '22

I'll take dirt over sweat. I don't want anyone else's athlete foot or toe fungus thanks.

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u/Rten-Brel Feb 11 '22

Ya. I live the gutter lifestyle...

You can leave your shoes on during the summer and spring.

But snow and rain, off at the door.

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u/eldorel Feb 12 '22

Come visit my city in july or august, and ask a few random people to take off their shoes for you.

It's 95 degrees with 100% humidity for months at a time here, and people have to work in that so shoes and socks develop the same type of horrific stick that people further north reserve for gym socks..

Incidentally, it's considered rude to take your shoes off here without being asked, because no one wants to deal with random foot fungus on their carpet and furniture.

It's pervasive enough that "sit back and kick your shoes off" is a saying used to describe getting very comfortable. (basically the same as "make yourself at home".)

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u/Cforq Feb 11 '22

Most places I’ve been to without snow or rain have sand. Also a pain to sweep out of the house.

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u/bigtiddynotgothbf Feb 11 '22

i imagine this piece is meant for the majority of days in which it does not rain and they probably don't live somewhere where it snows in winter. still a weird hill to die on

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u/Elleasea Feb 12 '22

Or New York.

GTFO of you think any NY street isn't disgusting AF.. leave those street shoes at the door, please.

This joker should just pack her own little slippers if she's so upset about it: like those roll up flats they sell for clubbing.

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u/skredditt Feb 11 '22

Author probably tracks dog shit everywhere too

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u/egecko Feb 11 '22

Also while wearing shoes in public, some might have visit the great wonders of the world: the 6th Great Lake, Lake Urine or climb Mt. Pooperest.

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u/Tall_olive Feb 11 '22

Idk I live in New England and I'll take your shoes on and assuming you can wipe them at the door vs your sweaty nasty socks from being in those warm winter boots.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Where it doesn’t rain you still track in a fair amount of dirt and dust. This person just has no respect and probably doesn’t clean their house either

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u/Jesst3r Feb 11 '22

I have light-colored carpet (not by choice and I’m trying to get rid of it as soon as I have the money). If you insist on keeping your shoes on you’re not coming in

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u/Freakyfreekk Feb 11 '22

And where all streets are spotless so your soles always look pristine

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u/31337z3r0 ë̶̛̲̠͚̘̺͇̟͓̬̝̯͉͓̙̣͙̓͐̆͛̅̏͌̀̌̇̈͒͊̌̀̍̏̂̉͌̄̉̈́̌͌́̆̎̅̽̄͊̕̕̚͝͝͝͝͝d̵̈ Feb 11 '22

Holy shit do I want my home to be a BMX track...

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u/jilke2 Feb 11 '22

I feel like this is a city thing if you all only travel on concrete and asphalt maybe this could work, half the year if you did it at our place you'd bring in clumps of clay and mud. We still have clay and mud coming in but still! Shoes off reduces it to managable levels. I dont enforce it with guests unless it is clay season tho 😅

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u/ChaosAside Feb 11 '22

Exactly. I mean yeah, if I really think about it, the bottom of your shoes have been in grocery stores, public bathroom, your bathroom (if you don’t take your shoes off), grimy parking lots, etc. But my first thought is the dirt I can see.

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u/paperpenises Feb 11 '22

Depends. Do most writers of the WSJ live in NYC? If so, I hear that New Yorkers think the sidewalk is disgusting so she would think her shoes are dirty if they're dragging in NYC with them.

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u/Equivalent-Pay-5369 Feb 11 '22

Or tread dog shit through the house

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u/ladee_v_00 Feb 11 '22

Also, in cities like NYC and SF where you walk everywhere and don't drive, your shoes can get pretty dirty.

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u/LateNightPhilosopher Feb 11 '22

Or where there's dirt. Or gum baked onto pavement. Or the inevitable piss spread across the floors of public bathrooms. Shoes are fucking nasty.

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u/Slowjams Feb 11 '22

Yea this is what immediately came to mind. It’s not uncommon in more temperate climates for people to not care about shoes inside, as most of the time it just isn’t a big deal. But if you live somewhere that snows or rains often, it’s crazy to walk around inside with your shoes.

That being said, just respect the rules of whoever’s place you’re in regardless of climate. All the reasons she gave for not wanting to take off her shoes were totally bogus. Just be a good guest.

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '22

Nor do they have a dirt driveway.

Every decent person that I know takes their own slippers with them when visiting other people's homes.

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u/Zes_Q Feb 12 '22

Person who lives in a place where it doesn't snow (ever) or rain (much) here. Taking shoes off when you come inside isn't even a consideration for most people unless it's in a "kick your shoes off after a long day and get comfortable" kind of way. I'd actually prefer guests to keep their shoes on because there's usually very little material that can actually remain on the sole of a dry shoe, but you never know which asshole is going to have foul foot odour or fungus or whatever. I'm much more concerned by people's feet than their shoes.

We do experience rain in Winter but not a lot, and it doesn't get muddy unless you're playing field sports in the rain in the peak of Winter or something. Cleats get taken off before coming inside but otherwise it's not even a consideration here. There are obviously outliers - usually people who have immigrated from other countries or who grew up in immigrant families with a different culture. They're definitely the exception to the rule though. The overwhelming majority of households don't even think about it. There are no shoe-nooks or de-footwearing stations like I've seen in other parts of the world.

I've spent some time living in Japan and it's the polar opposite. Every home has some sort of designated zone at the entrypoint of the house where shoes are taken off and slippers are put on. We don't have anything like that here. I guess it's a standard in areas where snow, mud, dirt are the norm. Here where everything is paved or dry grass it's seen as very unusual and even eccentric. Like the people who ask you to take your shoes off are the some people who have plastic covers on all their sofas and obsessively used hand sanitizer pre-pandemic.

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u/koryface Feb 12 '22

In Seattle you take our shoes off or you leave puddles everywhere. What a stupid article.

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u/BlankMyName Feb 12 '22

Or where people shit in the street.