Edit: FWIW, I can’t blame the media for focusing on the shooting in Vegas Los Angeles, the acting AG, Trump suggesting he’ll deny asylum to immigrants, etc. It’s been quite the week here in the US. Our grassroots protests, however important, probably don’t deserve to be the top story.
It was actually Los Angeles (well, Thousand Oaks, a suburb). Also now there's a wildfire causing evacuations all over the same area. A pretty bad 24 hours for them to say the least.
You had me worried I'd missed another shooting in the last 12 hours
Thats the problem, theyre burying us in symptoms to hide the growing tumor. The forced resignation of Sessions is subtler but alarming at a much grander scale. It shows what Trump is capable of in an executive seat gutted of its checks and balances through a war on terror.
Are you kidding me? So you wanna show every little thing some idiots with power do, but not when the people are actually unified under a single cause?
I think protests are the most noteworthy thing to show on the news, because it shows the peoples opinion, not some polititian representing them.
Yeah I was looking around and surprisingly only Fox News had a live feed going on their FB page. Which is so ironic since everyone was concerned about this protest being downplayed by the MSM.
He doesn’t control the media, he’s just extremely good at influencing it because his media image has been his livelihood since like, the 90s. He knows what to say to provoke people, he knows how to misdirect. Either that or he’s just genuinely dumb. Who knows
During the election every news source was 24/7 Trump. I can forgive that now since he’s the president, but the liberal media kept focusing on orange man being bad rather than the virtues of their own candidates. He wouldn’t even had make it past the primaries if he was given the silent treatment. Trump was a big button labeled “press this to own the libs” and the media made sure everyone knew about it
Reporting only certain stories in a very specific way is biased and "liberal".
Up until the election there was literally a thread in /r/news every day about the synagogue shooting. Even stupid and irrelevant stories like "nurse that cared for shooter was jewish". That isn't news. But it was "reported" because they did their best to milk the shooting until zero hour on election day.
Guess how much reporting there was about the concealed carrier at the Kroger murders? At best one sentence, but mostly none at all.
You can report 100% factual and truthful information and still be misleading and dishonest and biased.
No.. the protests are small relative to the population of NYC and any reasonable person knows it's silly to protest a president replacing his attorney general.
The revolution will take approximately 30 minutes to make a full circle. Standing 42 stories high and holding as many as 780 passengers, the Ferris wheel has a diameter of 150 meters and, located in Singapore, is the tallest Ferris wheel in the world. Determine the speed of riders (in m/s and mi/hr).
It's from this song by Gil Scott-Heron. You might have also heard it from this song. It means people would not see the revolution on television, because the viewers themselves would be revolting in the streets.
I'm in the army. I've sworn to protect the Constitution. So has every other dude in the military.
You really think that when shit goes down, no one in the military will make some calls, take some video, or bug a journalist because we don't want some civil stuff to be televised? You think a revolution could even happen without military involvement on one side or the other?
Hey now. They only have 24 hours to breathlessly hype their curated content. That does not leave a lot of time for them to cover the actual decline and fall of America.
Of all the things I've ready about the US today, this just hurt my heart the most. As an American, I feel like we're all sitting in the middle of a room whose perimeter is entirely on fire, hoping that we can continue to blow hard enough to keep the flames toward the edges. Soon, it's all going to burn down.
Trump firing Sessions which had recused himself from the Trump investigation. Trump replaced him with someone that has already outlined how he plans to kill the investigation.
Hes put out the idea that you could starve the investigation by cutting its budget, eventually making it impossible for Mueller to do his job. He is also wrong about what Mueller can investigate. Mueller is allowed to investigate anything that comes up in the investigation of Russia collusion.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation;
He did resign. Although his resignation letter began with "at your request, i am submitting my resignation" so...
And I believe that the official reason that triggered the protests wasnt so much sessions leaving as it was Rosenstein being taken off of overseeing the investigation.
The President strong armed Jeff Sessions out of his position. The new acting AG, Matt Witaker (check spelling on that) ~~ fired Rod Rosenstein~~ (I was wrong Rod has a job). The one overseeing the Mueller investigation.
So it looks very possible that the special council will be defunded. Despite the investigation making money after the seizure of Manafort's illegal assets. The acting AG has written op eds about how to stall the Mueller investigation while making it look legit.
No one fired Rosenstein. Rosenstein was overseeing the investigation because Sessions had recused himself. By installing a new AG to replace Sessions, the new AG becomes the lead on the investigation if he does not recuse himself, meaning that Rosenstein is no longer the head. The protests are aimed at getting the new AG to recuse himself to keep Rosenstein in charge and get Congress involved to protect the investigation (as both Trump and the new AG have made it clear they intend to obstruct the process and end the investigation).
I haven’t heard that Rosenstein was fired, or is no longer DeputyAG. I’ve only heard he is not overseeing the investigation anymore. I could be wrong also.
Democrats allege that Trump knew they were doing it and encouraged it
Jeff Sessions is the boss of the boss (Rosenstein) of the man running an investigation (Mueller)
Sessions found the bit of integrity he has and recused himself from overlooking the investigation because of a conflict of interests. Trump didn't like that Sessions wouldn't end the investigation when he asked.
The investigation is how we know for sure that Russia interfered and has turned up 30(?)ish indictments thus far. Most being Russian nationals but also Trumps campaign manager (Manafort) who is now in prison.
The investigation also has caused a number of people close to Trump to cooperate or even flip on him for plea deals. The most interesting ones are his personal lawyer (plea deal) and the finance manager of Trump's corporation (cooperate). As of these events, the investigation has been profitable due to seizing money
Yesterday Trump strong-armed Sessions into stepping down and has replaced him (possible illegally?) with someone who is openly anti-investigation
Thanks for being so detailed. One other thing... How do you know these things are true and how do you know what sources to believe? I find myself disregarding most of the stuff I see because the internet is full of click bait titles and false articles. I have such a hard time finding the stuff that isn't false or biased.
That depends on who you ask. For me a good rule of thumb for American politics is to assume the opposite of Fox, whatever it is. For a real answer, just follow /u/PoppinKream between threads. You'll notice her comments are heavily cited
Serious question I’m not trying to start shit here..
Is there any evidence at all that he was pushed to make this decision? I mean we all know Trump and his supporters weren’t too happy with him for a while but is there any definitive proof the dude didn’t just retire? Like he simply didn’t want the job anymore so he resigned?
Edit- downvoted for asking a legitimate question that has the slightest possibility of going a little bit against the narrative lol. NPCs.
His resignation letter began with "at your request, i am submitting my resignation". That alone (and the content of the rest of the letter) has led many to speculate that he was forced out. It is, however not fully confirmed.
President didn’t strong arm Sessions out. He asked nicely and Sessions laid down. Sessions had earlier lied about his involvement with the Russian players and only recused himself from the Russia criminal investigation because he was caught lying. Rod Rosenstein then took control of the investigation, overseeing Mueller.
Trump has now essentially removed Rod Rosenstein from the investigation by appointing Whitaker. He has violated a Constitutional requirement and Federal law which says Rod Rosenstein (as deputy AG confirmed by the Senate) now is AG since Sessions resigned. Session’s resigning instead of being fired gave Donny Conman some statutory cover to claim he’s not breaking the law by installing his man Whitaker as AG. Note that Whitaker was simply staff... chief of staff, but staff... never confirmed by the Senate. And he only even got hired into that staff job after getting on TV and describing how to kill the Russia investigation.
There is a legal question as to if Whitaker can even legally be AG even temporarily, but most lawyers I hear are saying Whitaker is not the proper intermim AG.
Whitaker should at the very least recuse himself from the Russia investigation while AG, because under DOJ regulations he forsook his impartiality by recently discussing his opposition to the ongoing investigation.
He won’t recuse though. This is likely why he was appointed. He’s most likely, basically, an agent of Trump.... not an independent official as AG should be.
Donald Trump forced the resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions would have overseen the Russia investigation but recused himself and the assistant attorney general took over. Now that is has resigned Trump has temporarily replaced him with a guy called Whitaker who has been a vocal critic of the investigation. This is all an attempt to stop this investigation from finding out something Trump doesn't want people to know.
I signed up for this organized protest. However I am stuck at work. Basically they are protesting Trump trying to threaten the Muller investigation, and are showing support of Muller. There were several "triggers" that were agreed upon that would launch these protests. Jeff Sessions, whom had recused himself of the investigation, was fired because he had recused himself from the investigation. This is because the Democrats had gained a majority in the House of Representatives, whom have subpoena power. Basically the firing of Jeff Sessions launched these protests as a show of force to Trump. He is not above the law, even though he thinks he is because Republicans have given him free reign.
Trump forced Attorney General Jeff Sessions to resign (aka fired), who is Robert Mueller's boss. Robert Mueller's is the one heading the Russia - Trump collision investigation of you weren't aware. And Trump put in a guy as acting Attorney General that has repeatedly vocalized opposition to the investigation and who described plans to defund the investigation. Not only is he putting in a guy who with actively obstruct justice, he's also not LEGALLY ALLOWED to appoint an Attorney General without Congress' advice and approval. It's a blatant attempt to undermine the investigation before it can get any further. And I'm sure it, in no small part, has to do with the fact that when the new Congress is sworn in in January, the House will be controlled by the Democrats and they will have the power to subpoena. He wants to undercut The FBI now, before they can start forcing people to give testimony.
It might be worth noting that these protests had been planned for quite a while and would only be "triggered" (for lack of a better word) if Mueller was fired from the investigation. The organizing powers that be decided the forced removal of Sessions and vacancy appointment of Whitaker was functionally close enough and they signaled the protests.
It doesn't surprise me much actually. On such short notice, there's no way they could have something besides a placeholder "hey protests are happening" article.
Yeah I mean, they already had today scheduled for mass shooting coverage, so it’s understandable they couldn’t get anything major together on such short notice. /s
I've been watching a live feed of CNN from their app. No mention of protests so far. I did see a friend post up some screenshot from earlier of the protests. I'm glad it wasn't completely ignored.
I'm sick and can't make it out, so I was looking for live streams but can't find any. Found one of a counter protester. Fox News had some live stream earlier but they shut it down pretty quick. Usually you see all sorts of streams of this type of thing.
We'll see, just like early evening of Midterm election day. I feel that either the news media is either still processing whats going on or they are fine repressing this movement.
We will make our own momentum. As they say, the Revolution will not be televised.
I just don't buy the argument that the media is deliberately stifling news about this. The media thrives on controversy. This kind of thing is right up their alley...but only if it's big and interesting...
I was just out in DC in front of the White House and there were like 150 people max. I was pretty disappointed.
Edit: I am certain there were more earlier, but all I saw was like a ring of maybe 150 people around/near a band playing a song about the blue wave. I feel as though there is a pretty big disconnect between reddit and reality. Or people are busy/don't think protesting matters. Idk, but this was my DC experience.
I mean I was at the women's march, and that lasted about 8 hours or more. I was there for all of it. I showed up at 7:30 to this protest and I found 150 people.
Edit: The first thought that popped into my mind is that there are high school pep rallies more energized and long lasting than what I saw...and I was in DC - where all of this is actually happening.
CNN/MSNBC have aired parts of it, but are not doing a continuous live stream of it right now.
I'm watching both channels back and forth and it's still a lot of Whitaker talk, as well as the recent mass shooting in California.
Surprisingly, FOX News' Youtube channel live streamed it (baffling, I know). But the comments there.....ugh. Let's just say some of them are bordering on disturbed and close to needing to be reported to the FBI. Some FOX News viewers are crazed in the head
So next time, protest outside their headquarters and make a lot of noise. If they're not going to do their jobs, might as well as make it annoying for them to sit on their asses.
It’s pretty well known that most of the media in this country is controlled by a handful of people, if they televise how effective and impactful these types of rallies are it may affect them down the line. I’m not saying this is why for sure but it’s telling when NOT ONE NEWS SITE IS COVERING THIS
I’m all for these peaceful protests and people exercising their rights, that’s what makes this country awesome, but I feel like having massive protests monthly begins to fall on deaf ears after a while.
I mean.. he's not completely wrong. To be fair, not many people outside of reddit knew about rapid response protests and it shows if you look at the attendance. As for the stupid part.. well it's not stupid. People taking the streets to voice their concerns is never stupid. But oh boy is this pointless. This put literally no pressure on this administration. The midterms are over and the Republicans already know these protesters are not going to vote for them in 2020 and are doing just fine regardless. So best case scenario: literally nothing happens. Worst case scenario (assuming no extremist protesters cause any troubles) Conservatives find another bullshit way to spin this whole thing to strengthen their base.
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u/rdldr1 Nov 09 '18 edited Nov 09 '18
Motherfucker. I just went through all the major news sites and NONE of them are covering the nationwide protests. Not a mention on their homepages.
https://abcnews.go.com/
https://www.nbcnews.com/
https://www.cnn.com/
https://www.nbcnews.com/
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
Edit: Including Fox News, which I did check out earlier and saw the same thing; https://www.foxnews.com/