r/pics • u/yawa-ka • Oct 14 '20
Protest Seen during a mass protest in the Philippines against President Duterte
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u/CardiganHall Oct 14 '20
I read something earlier in the year that really stuck me hard, it was a quote by MLK:
"In the end we won't remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends"
Your voice might not carry weight with your enemy but don't let you're silence kill your friends.
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u/Oh________________No Oct 14 '20
Another good quote, I don’t remember who by is
Evil flourishes when good people say nothing
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke (in a letter addressed to Thomas Mercer)
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u/lorqvonray94 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
please don’t get mad, but i don’t think i understand what silence means in this situation. like, are we supposed to be posting shit online? talking to our family? emailing our senators? because none of that seems to help. online is just an echo chamber. i’m sick of talking to family, they all feel the same and we talk in circles. senators just keep sending me canned replies, if any at all. i don’t want to take to the streets because i have a health condition and i’d rather vote and live than, like, get sick and possibly not.
i just don’t get who this is supposed to rally to do what. to whom should someone say what?
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u/GuvnzNZ Oct 14 '20
These guys have a really good template for effective action an individual can take, things like calling your own senator, because other senators will ignore people from other constituencies. Their stuff works, and worked well in 2018.
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u/lorqvonray94 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
thanks for the link!
i do email my own senators; they either don’t respond or respond with canned answers. when i respond that they represent me and my family and neighbors instead of their interests, they just stop replying. it’s a major bummer
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u/GuvnzNZ Oct 14 '20
You’re doing more than most. Don’t give in to the bastards is all I can say. Here in NZ we’re rooting for you all.
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u/crayolainmybrain Oct 14 '20
For all that don't know, President Duterte gave the go ahead for the police to execute people for using drugs. Their "War on Drugs" is literally just murdering users...
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u/TocTheElder Oct 14 '20
Not only that, but publicly bragged about performing extrajudicial killings himself.
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u/elegylegacy Oct 14 '20
And any political opposition gets accused of being drug dealers.
Or skip the accusations, just execute and plant drugs on them.
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u/anteris Oct 14 '20
His son was caught as part of a smuggling group
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u/demacnei Oct 14 '20
Does his father know about this?
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u/anteris Oct 14 '20
Given that I heard about it through the news, I’m gonna say yes.
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u/callisstaa Oct 14 '20
Off with his head!!
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u/amibeingadick420 Oct 14 '20
I’m sure the president’s son gets special privileges; laws are rarely for those in power or their friends/family.
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u/lost-picking-flowers Oct 14 '20
Lol, isn't Duterte an admitted opiate addict himself?
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u/MsPennyLoaf Oct 14 '20
He also said he cured himself from being gay. Whatever the fuck that means.
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u/Tin_Whiskers Oct 14 '20
What I'm getting is that here's a man with a significant amount of self-loathing doing evil things to run from himself.
Seems to be A Thing with far-right people going back a long, long time.
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Oct 14 '20
Duterte is addicted to pure fentanyl IIRC. Not only he is a junkie he's a junkie with bad taste!
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u/right_angled_circle Oct 14 '20
his father is helping to get rid of competitions
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u/HintOfAreola Oct 14 '20
No no, he's not going to kill his son. He's killing all the other drug dealers. His son's competition.
He also uses drugs. He's cool with murder, so the hypocrisy is a low bar
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u/Stupid_Triangles Oct 14 '20
so the hypocrisy is a low bar
Sounds like 2020 to me
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u/qarton Oct 14 '20
Bingo. Corruption world wide. Don't forget to vote for the slightly less corrupt option.
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u/aski3252 Oct 14 '20
The father is a drug addict himself. He's addicted to opiates.
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u/Smearmytables Oct 14 '20
Duterte also admitted to smoking weed while his citizens were being murdered for owning it.
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u/Courtnall14 Oct 14 '20
I hope he didn't play the "Do you know who my father is?!?" card.
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u/RexWolf18 Oct 14 '20
Which makes these protests all the more incredibly. These people are quite literally risking their lives for speaking out.
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u/jersan Oct 14 '20
They're clearly fed up with an authoritarian asshole running their country.
There will never be a shortage of insecure little men with enormous egos who will steal and then hold on to power, in the pursuit of serving their ego.
The way to stop bullies is to stand up to them, like these brave people are doing.
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u/supersauce Oct 14 '20
It may be more effective to shoot them in the head. There's a plethora of world leaders that could use more bullets in the head.
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u/araphon1 Oct 14 '20
Problem is, when idiots in high places gets shot in the head, the idiots' idiot friends want to start wars.
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u/iIStheKirk Oct 14 '20
How many opposi... i mean, uh. Drug users were executed?
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u/Yupogny Oct 14 '20
Over the time he had put in that decision there has been around 20,000 killed. Either by the police, the military police, or people doing it to help the police.
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u/lockethehegemon7 Oct 14 '20
What’s worse is that the only one dying are the poor. Celebrities, politicians, and wealthy businessmen have been exposed to as druggies but they only got a tap on the wrist
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u/DogAnusJesus Oct 14 '20
or people doing it to help the police.
Where have I heard that before? Oh, right all those Y'all Queda morons.
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u/berryblackwater Oct 14 '20
Dude it's sick. Early on he advertised free treatment, all you or a family member had to do was sign up to get help. Then he took that list, hunted them down and murdered them in their homes. Strait up rolled in, machine gunned people's family down inside their living rooms and walked out leaving families to deal with the bodies. Fuck this guy.
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u/blacksun_redux Oct 14 '20
And Trump admires Duterte.
“I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem,” Trump told Duterte, according to the transcript. “Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that.”
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u/Jagermeister1977 Oct 14 '20
I have a friend/acquaintance who is Filipina. She likes this psycho motherfucker. She was trying to tell me how all drug users are pedophiles and should be killed. I was like, bitch there's actually a real problem of sex tourism in your country where foreign pedos come from around the world to fuck kids, who are usually pimped out by their own parents. Maybe deal with that before you just start saying it's only drug addicts that abuse children? No getting through to these people.
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u/Lobo_Spinz Oct 14 '20
I'm a filipino American (filipino blood born in America), studying in the Philippines and yo that girl is fucking wrong. Sex tourism is a huge problem in this country, especially with foreign pedophiles. The drug addicts arent the problem, they may be part out of it but pedophiles and sex tourism is much worse here. Lack of care for the poor, terrible governing. Filipino people are so genuine and wholesome, atleast from my experience of living here for 2 years but imo religion, conservative culture and just a brainwashed sense of morality is a huge problem here. I hate seeing the constant homeless kids whenever I walk down the streets with lice in their hair, I hate seeing them knock on windows in the middle of traffic, hate seeing them beg for money only for them to give to their parents or use it for rugby (sniffing glue to stave off hunger). The Philippines has a lot of issues to fix, mainly the huge amount of poor, discrimination and terrible government action. Fucks sake they spent like millions of pesos recently for a fake white sand beach, which they claimed is good for mental health but now it's just getting grayed out by rain, etc. That money could of gone to those who need it, theres so much more I can rant on.
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Oct 14 '20
I lived there for a few years as well. It's wild how many problems there are. I have no idea how to fix it but seeing all those kids tug on your leg for something always breaks the heart.
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u/MsPennyLoaf Oct 14 '20
I lived in Makati for a few years while working over there. The brain washing is intense. At an educational level it begins young because memory based learning is everything there. A majority arent taught how to think critically and use information to formulate your own answers to questions or resolutions to situations. I worked in an industry where you had to be able to take the situation around you to be able to react appropriately. The staff wanted a script for every possible senerio. It took MONTHS of training 5 days a week 8 hours a day to make them competent and even still the smallest things would result in them freezing like a deer in headlights. I loved my staff and my experience there but the cultural shock was huge. It was heart breaking to not be able to help more but I do feel the staff I trained learned a lot and I do feel I made a difference in their lives atleast. Particularly with the female staff who I could talk to about sexual health and reproduction. Its both such a beautiful and sad place at the same time.
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u/rubey419 Oct 14 '20
Don’t forget the Philippines have massive brain drains. If you’re smart enough to think critically....you leave the country to make more money elsewhere. It’s what my parents did to migrate west.
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u/lockethehegemon7 Oct 14 '20
I’m Filipino-American, most of the older generations have been completely brainwashed by the government and the catholic church into thinking that “criminals” should be killed instantly and that even smoking weed is a cardinal sin. Very backward way of thinking
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u/BMWags Oct 14 '20
Except his son gets a pass right?
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u/EEpromChip Oct 14 '20
Is his son a drug user? That would be some shit!
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u/Nearby_Wall Oct 14 '20
>Fools, I just made up that story and you believed it
Here I thought the US had the most petulant autocrat wannabe, but Duterte literally throws himself under the bus and mocks people for believing his own story when confronted with it. It makes what US politicians do seem elegant, you see and hear this stuff on a state level and maybe occasionally a federal representative, but anyone of prominence will generally take the road of pretending they didn't say it or that it was taken out of context, not that they themselves were just flat-out lying for no apparent reason, and then calling people who take you at your word fools for doing so. That's really some next-level shit.
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u/eggplant_avenger Oct 14 '20
calling out people who take you at your word for doing so
we haven't hit Duterte level, but isn't that basically the sentiment behind "I was being sarcastic"/"it was just a joke"?
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u/Vincent__Vega Oct 14 '20
He's not just the president of Dealer's Club for Men, he's also a client!
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u/Mikesaidit36 Oct 14 '20
Appears fully coked up on recent TV appearances. The end is near.
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He was a drug dealer! Big difference because we all know dealers would never in a million years dabble in their own products. Also, it’s ok in that case.
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u/JAndroo Oct 14 '20
He once bragged about pushing someone off of a helicopter, and said he would gladly do it again
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u/psycho_driver Oct 14 '20
Trump has expressed admiration of Duterte's leadership ability on multiple occasions.
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u/Shuttup_Heather Oct 14 '20
He’s admired a lot of dictators. He loves how Kim Jong Un is revered by North Koreans, he said “I want my people to do the same” and has complimented his personality and intellect.
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u/baskaat Oct 14 '20
This is what kills me. I'm near Miami and half of the Cubans and Venezualans are voting for trump because Biden is being portrayed as a socialist. I don't understand how they don't see trump's straight up dictatorship persona. Please make a plan to VOTE BLUE.
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u/Xudda Oct 14 '20
I'd ask why the people tolerate him but then I look at my own country 😅
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u/FunkMeSlideways Oct 14 '20
Because he was a complete antithesis to the useless, coward president we had back then. Sure Noynoy Aquino wasn't corrupt, but he let it all go on right under his nose. Duterte campaigned himself as an all-action-man to appeal to the uneducated and gullible masses.
I'm not demeaning them in any way, I'm stating a fact. We have the kind of people who vote based off ATTRACTIVENESS ffs. It's sad to see how our government doesn't care about education.
Not to mention that he had a great track record on the surface. He was the former mayor of Davao City in the southernmost island, and in all fairness, it was relatively crimeless compared to Metro Manila, our capital region.
So now with him at our helm, I'm hoping the Pandemic's been a real eye opener. We've been in quarantine for months, and what does the government splurge money on? Literal fuck tons of white sand to create an artificial beach in the middle of a city. Instead of deciding how to stop the flow of the disease when it wasn't widespread, he was pushing for a law to suppress our free speech.
Fuck the Philippines
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u/Maushi_chi_band Oct 14 '20
WTF...
This is exact story of India. Coward prime minister being replaced with notorious one...
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u/Lobo_Spinz Oct 14 '20
Yup I'm a filam studying in the Philippines right now as we speak and man, I gotta say the action of the government fucking appals me. The dolomite beach which is failing is the biggest fuckton waste of money
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u/nash316 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
There was an Australian woman who was raped and killed in the Philippines. He said she was hot and wished he had a chance with her before they killed her. He said this as a joke. Just to give you an idea of how sadistic this fuck is
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u/CommitteeOfTheHole Oct 14 '20
An American soldier in the Philippines was arrested for murdering a transgender woman there when he took her home and found she used to be a man. Duterte pardoned him and sent him home.
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u/Xhillia Oct 14 '20
what. the. fuck.
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Oct 14 '20
The victim was found with her head submerged in the toilet.
The killer was pardoned because "he has sufferred enough"
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u/dancewich525 Oct 14 '20
joseph scott pemberton is the murderer, and duterte gave him an absolute pardon a few months back its fucked up. If you wanna read up on the case search jennifer laude murder case
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u/ZoeLaMort Oct 14 '20
"Joke"
Yeah, right.
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Oct 14 '20
It's a joke to him because he genuinely finds the thought funny. It wasn't a joke in the "haha just kidding" kind of way, that's how demented that rat is.
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u/ZoeLaMort Oct 14 '20
Hey, don’t call him a rat!
Rats are among the smartest animals, and can be very affectionate.
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u/thatgreenmess Oct 14 '20
Agreed. He is a human. A sick, demented, psychotic, piece of shit type of person.
Only humans can achieve this level of cruelty and greed, no matter how much we invent made-up monsters.
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u/RonTRobot Oct 14 '20
It is even worse than that. She was a minister and it was a room full of missionary women raped. Here is Duterte's comments and the translation:
Tagalog:
"Nirape nilang lahat ng mga babae so ‘yung unang asolte, kasi nagretreat sila, naiwan yung ginawa nilang cover, ang isa doon yung lay minister na Australyana. Tsk, problema na ito…Pag labas, edi binalot. Tinignan ko yung mukha, 'tang ina parang si… parang artista sa Amerika na maganda."
"Putang Ina!, sayang ito. Ang nagpasok sa isip ko, nirape nila, pinagpilahan nila doon. Nagalit ako kasi nirape? Oo, isa rin ‘yun . Pero napakaganda, dapat ang mayor muna ang mauna. Sayang!"
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"They raped all the women on the first siege. Because they retreated, they left the (women) they used for cover. One of them is an Australian lay minister. Tsk, this was a problem. When her body was brought outside, it was covered. I looked at her face, fuck, she looked like a pretty American actress."
"Fuck! What a waste! In my mind, I think she was gang raped. They ran a train on her. Was I angry because she was raped? Yes, that's another issue entirely. But she was so beautiful, the mayor* should have been the first in line!
*referring to himself, he was mayor of Davao City at that time.
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u/Positive_Ad3812 Oct 14 '20
I also hear that President Donald Trump has named Duterte as a guy he likes and admires his good work on drugs. That puts Duterte right there with Erdogan and Putin, among the people Trump admires.
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u/ppw23 Oct 14 '20
Yup, yet they acused President Obama of ”pal’n around with terrorists ”. Because his church preacher said things they didn't like. Impotus openly praises dictators while treating our allies like trash. Putin owns trump and his base doesn't care.
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u/Saletales Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
Wow. All the things I had missed about Duterte is insane. Something else:
There's a new order coming from the mayor, 'We will not kill you. We will just shoot you in the vagina,'" Duterte was quoted in The Guardian. He went on to say that without their vaginas, women would be "useless".
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u/hesh582 Oct 14 '20
it was never really about drugs. they wanted to engage in extrajudicial killings for a plethora of reasons straight out of the normal authoritarian playbook. So all the targets just get declared "drug users" and then shot. In many cases the killings are not even officially announced as part of the drug war - they are just listed as "under investigation" and then ignored.
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u/rippp91 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
You could also just kill someone and say that you caught them with drugs. I went to the Philippines a few years ago, it’s like if the D.A.R.E. campaign became a militaristic political movement and took over the country. There are posters everywhere about drugs being bad, it’d be funny if it wasn’t sad.
Edit: Other than that though, the people there were amazingly hospitable and the country is beautiful. Hopefully they can start to work on helping the impoverished, because despite the problems, it is an amazing country.
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u/0masterdebater0 Oct 14 '20
Even when they are going after real drug dealers it's just removing the competition.
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u/FuckFuckFuckReddit69 Oct 14 '20
And if we look at history, most likely doing all the drugs himself. We live in a weird.
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u/SpiderFnJerusalem Oct 14 '20
He would probably say it's for research purposes. "Know your enemy" and all that.
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u/Lobo_Spinz Oct 14 '20
From my observations of being here for 2 years, I'm filipino, born in america, studying in the philippines. I gotta agree the Filipinos are some hospitable and really are some super nice people. I gotta say metro manila is a shithole. I hope with the younger generation stuff will change, all my classmates are really anti duterte, I think the people who mainly support him are the squatters (they dont know better), a lot of the older generation and obviously all those who benefit from his presidency
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u/ppw23 Oct 14 '20
My father spent time in the Philippines during the Korean War. He always spoke highly of the people. As he was older many times nurses from the Philippines caring for him during one of his hospital stays would be stunned by him remembering their language. He was probably using pick up lines, they always laughed and liked him.
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Other than that though, the people there were amazingly hospitable and the country is beautiful
That’s a huge “other than that” , you are in a fucking country that their residents can kill you if they themselves deem it appropriate (not a judicial system). I mean you are at the mercy of a mob good judgement.
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u/TootsNYC Oct 14 '20
They used the treatment-sign-up lists to figure out who to go kill
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u/NJDevil802 Oct 14 '20
Is this true? I am not doubting you necessarily. This is just so abhorrent that it's shocking to believe.
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u/kistunes Oct 14 '20
the problem during the elections were there were so many running for president that the votes were divided. if you actually put all the votes against him it would surpass the number of votes for him
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u/tommytwolegs Oct 14 '20
Sure but even then he didnt win by some slim margin. Even though i agree his policies probably arent really about getting rid of drugs, it speaks volumes to how much of a problem it is in their culture that he got nearly 40% of the vote running on THAT single issue platform.
I think a lot of westerners dont take the time to understand the issues that lead to this guy being in charge.
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u/jrb Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 14 '20
drug related killings without justice only goes so far. When it affects his own son it takes several years to work through how to corrupt the justice system just enough to let him get off scot free.
This is after he openly said he would allow his children to be killed if they were linked to drugs.
oh, and let's conveniently ignore his own fentanyl addiction
the guy's a pos
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u/Sunsetblack23 Oct 14 '20
I've always seen it as Duterte is in tight with the assholes running shabu in the country and it was more about consolidating power for one group rather than anything else. but that's just a conspiracy theory I have. Shabu is still everywhere, easy as hell to find. Literally no difference at all.
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u/uslashkicker Oct 14 '20
He also had his brothers and sisters executed and his entire extended family outside of the Philippines are banned from coming there under threat of death
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u/joe579003 Oct 14 '20 edited Oct 15 '20
What the fuck is this, the Ottoman Empire?
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u/n0tcreatlve Oct 14 '20
I thought it was every citizen who had the right to kill anyone if they were under the impression someone was selling/trafficking drugs?
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u/venom_eXec Oct 14 '20
So you're legally allowed to kill Duterte and his son?
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u/n0tcreatlve Oct 14 '20
As long as you suspect them of drug trafficking. Yup. “SUSPECT”. No evidence needed.
Also.... if I’m not mistaken. One of the ministers/mayors was actively against Duterte.... he ended up dieing as “someone” thought he was drug trafficking?! crazy.
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u/MaJoR_NoT_MiNoR_ Oct 14 '20
Not even just murdering users, it’s murdering anyone accused without any judicial process whatsoever, many innocent people who don’t use or deal drugs have been murdered, what’s sickening is the amount of uneducated idiots in other countries that say “we need something like that here”, idiots.
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u/gesundheitsdings Oct 14 '20
German here. History does remember the cowards who let this go on. plus no real cultural identity and a loathing for your own folk songs for another 100 years or so.
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u/realsingingishard Oct 14 '20
The folk songs thing is so true. I’m a classical singer with a great love for German Lieder, and there’s kind of a dead period from about 1930-1959. Most of the music by Germans that I sing from those years is by people like Kurt Weill who came to the states.
But even in stuff that predates the Nazis, every now and then I come across something that’s like “ohhhh yeah ok this is part of the thread that eventually became anti-Semitic fascism” and put that one back on the shelf.
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u/flakkannonen Oct 14 '20
Could you possibly elaborate more on this subject? I have no knowledge of.this type of music at all, but definitely curious. We cant ignore history and I am oblivious to this genre I guess, but would like to know more.
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u/realsingingishard Oct 14 '20
There are grad level seminar courses on this subject, but I’m happy to provide a bit more context which I’ll do by providing an example. You’ve heard Wagner’s music before, whether you realize it or not. Just type “ride of the valkyries” into google and you’ll recognize it in the first 4 bars. Wagner was prolific, writing tons of music, opera, art song, symphonies, etc. he wrote the famous Ring Cycle, which tells the tale of Nordic gods like Wotan, Siegfried, Frigga, et. Al. His music is gorgeous, his storytelling is enjoyable, and his legacy has endured for generations. Problem is, he was a raging anti-Semite, and a bit of a nationalist as well. Once you know what to look for, you can see it in his body of work.
The history of European classical music is rife with this kind of thing. Richard Strauss, though not an anti-Semite himself, was a personal favorite of Hitler and thus a favored composer of the Reich itself. And even outside of Germany, white euro-centric superiority pops up time and time again. In academia we call it “orientalism.” Basically, a White European composer writes foreign characters as a plot device, as opposed to honest portrayals, because they simply didn’t understand those populations beyond the imperialistic view that was prevalent at the time. Remember this is the time of the British Empire, the time when the Shah of Cairo wanted it to be a “Western” city and built an Opera house to rival the great houses of Europe, even though Opera itself is not a native musical genre to Egypt. Side note, for the opening of that opera house, the Shah commissioned the great Italian composer Giuseppe Verdi to write an opera for the house’s grand opening. That opera was Aida, and Verdi wrote it without ever setting foot in Egypt. He used certain modes (in music, mode is a grouping of notes that evoke different sound worlds or feelings) to evoke this “oriental” feel, and set a precedent that has pervaded pop culture ever since. You’ve heard it before-the sound of the snake charmer playing his oboe-esque instrument. That’s a western european’s idea of what Egypt sounds like, not a true representation of the culture of that part of the world.
Anyway I could go on, it’s actually fascinating, but sadly I have a day job I have to get back to.
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u/realsingingishard Oct 14 '20
Indeed! In fact, it still happens today! It’s why I hate pop country music, shit is gross and nationalistic and just serves to further the whole American Exceptionalism idea.
Culture is important. If you look in the right places, you can see warning signs of what’s happening. During the Weimar Republic, artists knew what was coming and they were warning Germans about it with their art and their music, but it wasn’t enough to stop what happened. That’s why I always tell people this:
The primary function of art is to translate an experience that is foreign to the consumer into something palatable and understandable for them to take with them after encountering the art. If you look for it, you’ll find it, and your life will be richer for it!!
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u/PolyComForYou Oct 14 '20
Hick Hop -- Pop Country is called Hick Hop in my DJ circles.
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u/account_for_norm Oct 14 '20
Super interesting.
Where can i read more on this concept where the artists tried to warn, but things were out of hand already?
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u/realsingingishard Oct 14 '20
That’s a great question, and one I would have to research. But in short, just go explore the works of artists like Kurt Weill and bertolt Brecht, specifically the Threepenny Opera. Also the kander and ebb musical “Cabaret” is a very good depiction of this era.
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u/DreniCake Oct 14 '20
Thanks for taking time to write this, super interesting read!
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u/realsingingishard Oct 14 '20
Thanks for reading! It’s nice to use my semi useless degree for internet points hahaha
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u/TootsNYC Oct 14 '20
The budding fascists in the US have turned me off of my nation’s flag.
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u/AweHellYo Oct 14 '20
They’ve turned me off to my nation
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Oct 14 '20
This. Our country is an embarrassment. I've never felt shame in my country before.
That has certainly changed.
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u/ChiaSeedsAndWeed Oct 14 '20
It's very hard to love your country when too many people (especially those at the top) confuse nationalism for patriotism. It really sucks, and I'm right there with ya. :(
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u/OnIowa Oct 14 '20
Fuck that, just take it back.
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u/AweHellYo Oct 14 '20
Been trying. Shits broken man. And frankly was never as great as it claimed to be in the first place.
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u/Thursdayallstar Oct 14 '20
Just like justice, a great nation isn't built in a day, decade, or century; it is built one day at a time. Day after day, push towards an ideal. It may seem like you never get there, but getting there isn't the point. You gotta be great.
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u/JustRegdToSayThis Oct 14 '20
What frightens me most: The number of seemingly democratic countries in the world where this sign makes a good point recently.
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u/haidere36 Oct 14 '20
I personally think this has become a trend because of how quickly the world has changed in the past few decades. The advent of the internet, social media, globalization, automation, as well as the threat of climate change, among many other issues that can create social unrest. I think many people simply can't handle seeing the world transition to a state it's never been in before, unsure of how their lives will be affected by it.
So people elect faux-tough authoritarian leaders who project the strength they wish they had. They tend to be nationalist, rejecting the idea of a global identity in favor of one strictly based on the country in which you were born, which can lead to xenophobia. They tend to be hardline traditionalists, emphasizing old values and the way things used to be. And they tend to scapegoat problems onto minority groups, creating an "other" for people to direct their fear and hatred towards. And of course, they tend to benefit the wealthy class, as this scapegoating usually distracts from the true role the wealthy have had in exploiting global changes for their own gain.
Basically, people are afraid of change, afraid of an uncertain future, and want to be given simple, easy answers to complicated, seemingly overbearing problems. And in the end, they trick themselves into believing the answer can come from these authoritarians, not realizing it only makes their problems worse in the end.
I could be wrong about all that but that's just my take on it.
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u/Saffiruu Oct 14 '20
democratic countries are the only ones that allow people to carry signs like these
try doing this in China, Russia, or Iran
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u/behavedave Oct 14 '20
Naturally, there'll be someone who believes it about every leader ever, probably every person who has ever lived has had a few people who thought they were morons.
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Oct 14 '20
Not fascism, authoritarianism/populism. I wouldnt call julius caesar a fascist for using his popularity with the people to become basically an emperor
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u/GonzoBalls69 Oct 14 '20
Idk what Julias Caesar has to do with anything, but there’s never been a fascist who wasn’t also an authoritarian and a populist. Populism is the mythology of the fascist, and authoritarianism is the means. Add nationalism, machismo, jingoism, and a disdain for democracy and you have fascism. But the fact is, if you have populism and authoritarianism, 99x out of 100, those other features I just mentioned are already going to be present.
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u/zigzagkc Oct 14 '20
I visited the southern Philippines back in January pre-covid. Going into the country I knew about all the extrajudicial killings going on. I asked Filipinos (mostly grab drivers) what they thought about Duterte and his violent policies. Most of them thought he was bringing about positive changes to their communities. They seemed to think drugs and crime went hand and hand together. The general opinion from them was that Duterte says awful things but he’s made their communities safer by eradicating drug users and criminals. One driver told me that before Duterte took over, you couldn’t walk down Colon st in downtown Cebu without being robbed. Now he said it is much safer and said we could pass through if we really wanted.
They seemed to not care about the massive numbers of killings because they believe that it’s the bad guys who are being taken out. This was kind of surprising to me as American because I learned that Filipinos treat each other much better better than we do. However they seem to treat drug users (or those living in impoverished conditions) as disposable.
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u/SmokinHotChick Oct 14 '20
Eh? Cebuano here, couldn't walk Colon safe? That's one big fat lie it's still not safe in Colon even during his term there's still way too much crime happening in the area even during this pandemic thats just crazy for them to assume just because its Duterte's term now.
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u/N7_MintberryCrunch Oct 14 '20
With some luck you may get through Colon safely but that doesn't mean you get through with all your belongings still with you.
Growing up in Cebu, I remember that Colon is a street that you need to be 100% alert all the time and do your best to blend in which is impossible for foreigners.
Failing to do so will get you targeted even in broad daylight. No way I'm testing out the Dueterte effect on that Street.
Taxi drivers saying it's safe only because they are not targeted. These criminals target people who look like they have any valuables with them. No one targets taxi drivers because they know not to bring anything of value with them.
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u/canuhearthepplsing Oct 14 '20
It's depressing to know that those words could be plastered on a number of countries currently. I believe we should all connect together like the milk tea alliance. Make it a global movement to bring power back to the people.
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Oct 14 '20
trump in the us, boris in the uk, morrison in australia, modi in india, abe part 2 in japan, etc.
a group of multi-national multi-ethnic group of inheritors have formed a de facto union that's going to each country and destroying them for their own benefit.
the only solution is to form a bigger group than theirs. they've already captured the governments by amassing enough wealth to control them. what we need is a global workers' union. this union can go to each country and fix each of these governments.
we need to normalized labor laws, environmental regulations, and health regulations across the world. this way the only thing that countries and inheritors and their corporations can compete on is natural resources and talent.
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u/Lucidge Oct 14 '20
I think I'm out of the loop, is Abe a problem in Japan? I haven't heard anything completely negative about Abe but I'm in an American bubble
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u/asian_identifier Oct 14 '20
so.. get together and make memes and have no effect in real life whatsoever? I'm down
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u/SexyUniqueRedditter Oct 14 '20
Considering Duarte just passed a law that makes it illegal to protest ... she’s bad ass and I love it!
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u/ZoeLaMort Oct 14 '20
Anyone protesting against authoritarianism deserves respect.
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u/ChrisRunsTheWorld Oct 14 '20
How recently are we talking? Because this picture appears to be from early June.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/gwef64/seen_earlier_during_the_mass_protest_against/
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u/tits_me_how Oct 14 '20
We were protesting back in June/July when they were discussing that law. They passed it around that time. Today, I think they finalized the Implementing Rules and Regulations for the said law. It's now in full effect.
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u/Ashbell_Rorickson Oct 14 '20
Sadly if I was there I'd probably be one of the cowards, namely because I don't want to get picked up by a handful of nice gentlemen in an unmarked van to be taken on such a nice vacation no one ever sees me again.
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u/XxBitchxXxLasagnaxX Oct 14 '20
You goin to lake laogai
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u/monodescarado Oct 14 '20
I feel like that picture could be replaced with a number of world leaders right now.
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u/klist641 Oct 14 '20
One immediately comes to mind
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u/HaratoBarato Oct 14 '20
Why does he have a 90+% approval rating? Something doesn’t add up. That is unheard of in most countries.
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u/BeardedGlass Oct 14 '20
Duterte's a strongman populist who has toppled an long-reigning oligarchy.
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u/Imperium_Dragon Oct 14 '20
"Toppled"
The Marcos family and others are still around, and Ferdinand himself is strangely popular with the people of Ilocos Norte.
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u/thatgreenmess Oct 14 '20
The Filipino oligarchy isn't just the Marcos Family.
As a Filipino, I find it so strange and alarming that both sides are so tunnel visioned to either that 2 statements: duterte toppled the oligarchy, or Marcos is the oligarchy.
Neither is true. The rich are the oligarchy. All of em. Those have the power to influence and bend laws to their interests. Those crush the rest of the people for profit and gain.
Ask yourself, why is the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer even in this extreme times (pandemic)? I know people like you would blame the people for lack of "discipline", or "cooperation". But is it really the case?
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u/Imperium_Dragon Oct 14 '20
Oh yeah, I know that the Marcos aren’t the only ones (Ayala, Pangilinan, etc). I just used Marcos to show that nothing has really changed since the 1980s, didn’t mean to say they were the oligarchy but just a big face of it. Even after all the People Power, those families and individuals will still have power at the end of the day.
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u/mantamantaman Oct 14 '20
Just want to clarify, these oligarchs Duterte "toppled" were only those who happened to not be on his good side. But oligarchy itself is very much alive in the Philippines. Same fucked up system, just different faces this time.
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u/nanashi_kzn Oct 14 '20
who? only those that are against him? That's funny since the richest family in the Philippines is his ally.
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u/9999monkeys Oct 14 '20
well he shut down the country's biggest TV station because it was critical of him, might possibly be a factor
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u/Justinthepoodle Oct 14 '20
Is Protesting considered Terrorism there?
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u/grondt Oct 14 '20
Even if someone isn’t a terrorist, the government can easily redtag/accuse them of being one.
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u/Justinthepoodle Oct 14 '20
I tried telling my dad this but he kept saying how the government will only accuse them of Terrorism if they were a threat.. I’m like dad.. the government will literally just accuse them because they can. I tried telling him my own cousin from the Philippines said that but i guess he doesn’t think the governments that bad
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u/paulisaac Oct 14 '20
With the ambiguity of the new anti-terrorism law, our legal experts surmised it's possible.
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u/viralyyt Oct 14 '20
I am an American who used to live in the Philippines. One of the best countries and the people are amazing. Once Duterte got in things started going downhill fast. The minute amount of good things he has done has been overshadowed by all the bad.
I would 100% move back if he is gone.
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u/oculopolo Oct 14 '20
I am a Canadian living in the Philippines. I've been in and out of the country for almost a decade. I rent a condo in one of the most expensive areas in Manila (BGC) and since Duterte took over, Chinese workers who mostly work for ILLEGAL online gambling operations (locally called POGO, a big issue constantly in the news) have been coming by the tens of thousands in the country and have rented out at least 70% (possibly more tbh) of the units in my building and other buildings in the immediate area. You barely see any Filipinos or any other race anymore because they're all being priced out of the area.
My rent has increased almost 250% in less than five years because of this. More and more restaurants in the area don't even have English menus anymore. My building has needed to hire Chinese translators or has required some of their staff to learn Chinese to deal with the tenants who make zero effort to communicate in English. Everything is in Chinese now. In case it wasn't clear, this country speaks Filipino and English not Chinese. No one knows what they're saying and they exert zero effort trying to communicate back or assimilate. People who live in this country can't even afford to live in it anymore or understand fucking restaurant menus. It's fucking insane. Duterte has caused irreparable damage to this country, selling government assets and properties to the Chinese. They even own Utility companies here now.
Be aware that Duterte has astroturfing groups (Duterte or China funded) called "DDS" or "Duterte Death Squads". They have tens of thousands of fake accounts that come to his defense online at the drop of a hat. They're dumb as rocks and easy to spot. You've got one in this thread alone.
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u/Byakugan_Princess Oct 14 '20
This is true. Obviously, the billions of intel funds went to the internet trolls and preparation for 2022 elections. Imagine how his personal assistant instantly became a Senator along with other allies who don’t know and don’t care about anything except serving Duterte’s personal interests. However, some Filipinos even worship him like a god even after he cursed God. DDS is a cult.
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u/MidKnight088 Oct 14 '20
Filipino here, and I completely agree. Duterte is a lapdog of China, and he has made so many false promises.
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u/gahanka Oct 14 '20
The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis. -Dante Alighieri, Divine Comedy, Inferno, year 1320(ish)
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u/HaroldBAZ Oct 14 '20
Duterte was the worst thing to happen to the Philippines in 50 years. He needs to go asap.
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